Hi Willie In 1841 Joseph was 6 years old, he also had an older brother David who was not at home in 1851 although the parents ages here are 35 we know they rounded them down, but they were still out by quite a few years, and yes, it is the same family.... - if you want the full entry let me know..... How old was Mary Thomas in 1861 so that perhaps I can find her in 1851 as there are lots of Mary Thomas's there......I have a lodger named David Thomas in 1851 aged 68, so perhaps he was not belonging but always a lodger, he was a widower..... I cannot find a relevant marriage for Joseph Morris and Elizabeth in Carmarthenshire marriages to 1837.... I'll see what else I can find......Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <willie.morris@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re: Joseph Morris Llanelly > Hello Pauline, > > Thank you once again for your reply, > > Yes, my Joseph MORRIS does state Llanelly as his birthplace. His wife Mary > also gives her birthplace as Llanelly. On my Gr. Grandfather's birth > certificate, her surname is given as THOMAS. > > As yet I have not found a marriage for Joseph and Mary, and I do not know > the name of Joseph's father. > > On the 1861 census Joseph and Mary (sounds Biblical) have a David THOMAS > living with them, he is enumerated as a Boarder, Widower, aged 78 yrs, > Dock > Labourer, born Llanelly. Could this be Mary's father? If so, why not > enumerated as father in law? > > Once again, many thanks, > > Willie. > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

Hello Pauline, That was a quick reply. If it is not too much trouble, I would appreciate the full entry. Mary THOMAS was aged 35 yrs in the 1861 census. Thank you, Willie.