Hi Ginette I have looked in Kidwelly and Carmarthenshire1851 census for a George Phillips aged under 4 but cannot find one.....this is the only George Phillips with father John......what was the fathers occupation on the marriage cert....... Kidwelly 1851 census dist 2b page 7 sch 29 Lady Street John Phillips head mar 48 labourer born Llanelly Elizabeth Phillips wife marr 45 born Kidwelly Mary Phillips dau un 24 born Kidwelly Phillip Phillips son 10 born Kidwelly George Phillips son 8 born Kidwelly Lemuel Phillips son 6 born Kidwelly When you want a popular name and you know where he was born, go to the local registry office they will ensure that you have the correct certificate with correct father and occupation..... Kidwelly is under Llanelly registry office, but they do not have an official email address yet so if you send to Carmarthen they will find out for you Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk let me know if this helps Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginette Elliott" <Ginette@marsburg.f2s.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Birth Certificate for George Phillips > Hi Listers > > I'm a newbie to the List and really hope that someone can help break down > my brick wall before I end up buying every birth certificate in the GRO!! > > George Phillips was my Gt Gdfather and was born in Kidwelly c1847/50. He > married Elizabeth Evans 1 Feb 1869 in Bridgend and on the certificate, it > names his father as John Phillips. > > I have found him on the 1871 Census at Llangeinor with his wife and first > child. He is aged 24 born in Kidwelly > On the 1881 Census he is at Long Row, Llandyfowg with his wife and more > children. Aged 34 born in Kidwelly > On the 1891 Census he's back at Llangeinor with his wife and more children > including my Gdfather Philip Lloyd Phillips. Aged 41 and born > Maesgwenlliam (sp) > On the 1901 Census he's at Llangeinor but listed as George Lloyd age 52 > born in Kidwelly! > I can't find him (or his father on 1861 Census) > > I am 100% certain that this is not two different people but because the > birth years aren't consistent and the Registration districts are tying me > in knots, I've paid for 5 birth certificates and none are the right > ones... help! > > Sorry to go on:-) I'd be so grateful for any help or advice. > > Ginette > -- > Ginette Phillips > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

Hi Pauline Many thanks for the info, everything helps as you start to think it's under your nose and you're too dense to see it! Johns occupation on the certificate was Labourer. I will email the Registrar and keep everything crossed! Ginette In message <007701c5b7a5$c2e595c0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >Hi Ginette > >I have looked in Kidwelly and Carmarthenshire1851 census for a George >Phillips aged under 4 but cannot find one.....this is the only George >Phillips with father John......what was the fathers occupation on the >marriage cert....... > >Kidwelly 1851 census dist 2b page 7 sch 29 >Lady Street >John Phillips head mar 48 labourer born Llanelly >Elizabeth Phillips wife marr 45 born Kidwelly >Mary Phillips dau un 24 born Kidwelly >Phillip Phillips son 10 born Kidwelly >George Phillips son 8 born Kidwelly >Lemuel Phillips son 6 born Kidwelly > >When you want a popular name and you know where he was born, go to the >local registry office they will ensure that you have the correct >certificate with correct father and occupation..... > >Kidwelly is under Llanelly registry office, but they do not have an >official email address yet so if you send to Carmarthen they will find >out for you > >Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk > >let me know if this helps > >Pauline > -- Ginette Phillips