Hi Pat Could the end of the place in census for David Jones end in ney.....not nog.......just a thought!! Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Reply to Pauline re Thomas Jones > Hi Pauline > > The one I found was in Merthyr Tydfil - seeing as that was the place > where many iron workers were to be found at that time - many of whom > would have moved up from further west. > > This is the family shown at the end of this e-mail - both parents come > from Carmarthenshire - their daughter was born about 1820 in Merthyr - > but they could have had other children earlier in Carmarthenshire. > > I have tried , and failed, so far to find them in 1841 - but if they > were in the northern part of Merthyr then that section is missing from > the 1841 census anyway - just to make things difficult!! > > I'm not convinced that this is the right family - but it is a possible. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > 1851 census Merthyr Tydfil. > > piece 2479 Folio 478 schedule 152 > > Penydarren > > Thomas Jones Hd M 58 Iron founder CMN Llanarthney > Harriet " wi M 58 CMN Llanarthney > Sarah Davis dau W 31 GLA Merthyr Tydfil > Hannah Davis Gdau 3 GLA Merthyr Tydfil > > > > In message <007e01c5e119$94a3c540$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James > <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>Hi Pat >> >>The only ironfounder aged 58 I have in 1851 is a Thomas Davies not Thomas >>Jones, is yours living in Llanelly? >> >>Pauline >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:12 AM >>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >> >> >>> Hello Eve >>> >>> yes I have Llanddarog on my list of possibles. >>> >>> Re baptists - they do not baptise young children - so you won't find a >>> record equivalent to a christening in church. >>> >>> I have found one family in 1851 where the head of household is Thomas >>> Jones from Carmarthenshire aged 58 an Iron founder - but haven't tracked >>> down enough to give you the details yet as I don't want to send you on a >>> wild goose chase!!! >>> >>> Will get back to you later. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP041F71975C6A3E0AA7F2E9C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>Hi Pat >>>>I spent the day at my LDS and searched for anyplace that looked like >>>>LANDADAY this is what shows on index, I had not noticed it before. I >>>>think >>>>it might be LANDEROG (LLANDDAROG) ?? >>>>Based on that possibility do you know how I can access BAPTIST baptisms >>>>for >>>>about 1818. IGI seem to have CofE but not non-conformists >>>>The Gazetteer shows IRON also Woollen the area so that fits with David >>>>as >>>>a >>>>Tailor and his Father as an Iron Founder. >>>>Any further advice would be appreciated >>>>Thanks >>>>Eve >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:35 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for that Eve >>>>> >>>>> Every little bit of information helps. >>>>> >>>>> Re your first guess of Saundersfoot - apart from it being in >>>>> Pembrokeshire I beleive the ironworks were only set up in 1847 so that >>>>> is another bit of info agianst it being Saundersfoot. >>>>> >>>>> I may take a while to mull over the problem - but I'll get back to you >>>>> even if it just to say I have failed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP04EFDA6739B52EF93ECD17C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>Yes Pat an Iron Founder >>>>>>Eve >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:25 PM >>>>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Eve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you have the occupation of David's father Thomas Jones from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> marriage certificate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP0587C41211183548E1B3FDC26E0@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>>>Hi Pat >>>>>>>>Saundersfoot was just a shot in the dark >>>>>>>>David Died in 1858 in Wokingham Berks. and is buried in Baptist >>>>>>>>churchyard >>>>>>>>there >>>>>>>>He married Harriet Tuck (also a Tailor) 19th January 1840 St. >>>>>>>>Sepulcre >>>>>>>>London City. and in 1851 they are in Hartley Row. Hants. >>>>>>>>Sorry that is all I know >>>>>>>>Eve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Pat Powell >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & >>>>>>> Information >>>>>>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >>>>>>cannot >>>>>>find - >>>>>>Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm >>>>>>House etc >>>>>>etc - He will search the Database >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Pat Powell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pat Powell >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >>> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >>> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>> >> >> >>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >
Hi Pauline the last 2 letters really look like og or oy the previous letter looks like a d. the transcriber as read it as landaday Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Reply to Pauline re Thomas Jones > Hi Pat > > Could the end of the place in census for David Jones end in ney.....not > nog.......just a thought!! > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:59 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Reply to Pauline re Thomas Jones > > >> Hi Pauline >> >> The one I found was in Merthyr Tydfil - seeing as that was the place >> where many iron workers were to be found at that time - many of whom >> would have moved up from further west. >> >> This is the family shown at the end of this e-mail - both parents come >> from Carmarthenshire - their daughter was born about 1820 in Merthyr - >> but they could have had other children earlier in Carmarthenshire. >> >> I have tried , and failed, so far to find them in 1841 - but if they >> were in the northern part of Merthyr then that section is missing from >> the 1841 census anyway - just to make things difficult!! >> >> I'm not convinced that this is the right family - but it is a possible. >> >> Cheers >> >> Pat >> >> >> 1851 census Merthyr Tydfil. >> >> piece 2479 Folio 478 schedule 152 >> >> Penydarren >> >> Thomas Jones Hd M 58 Iron founder CMN Llanarthney >> Harriet " wi M 58 CMN Llanarthney >> Sarah Davis dau W 31 GLA Merthyr Tydfil >> Hannah Davis Gdau 3 GLA Merthyr Tydfil >> >> >> >> In message <007e01c5e119$94a3c540$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>Hi Pat >>> >>>The only ironfounder aged 58 I have in 1851 is a Thomas Davies not Thomas >>>Jones, is yours living in Llanelly? >>> >>>Pauline >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:12 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>> >>> >>>> Hello Eve >>>> >>>> yes I have Llanddarog on my list of possibles. >>>> >>>> Re baptists - they do not baptise young children - so you won't find a >>>> record equivalent to a christening in church. >>>> >>>> I have found one family in 1851 where the head of household is Thomas >>>> Jones from Carmarthenshire aged 58 an Iron founder - but haven't >>>> tracked >>>> down enough to give you the details yet as I don't want to send you on >>>> a >>>> wild goose chase!!! >>>> >>>> Will get back to you later. >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP041F71975C6A3E0AA7F2E9C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>Hi Pat >>>>>I spent the day at my LDS and searched for anyplace that looked like >>>>>LANDADAY this is what shows on index, I had not noticed it before. I >>>>>think >>>>>it might be LANDEROG (LLANDDAROG) ?? >>>>>Based on that possibility do you know how I can access BAPTIST baptisms >>>>>for >>>>>about 1818. IGI seem to have CofE but not non-conformists >>>>>The Gazetteer shows IRON also Woollen the area so that fits with David >>>>>as >>>>>a >>>>>Tailor and his Father as an Iron Founder. >>>>>Any further advice would be appreciated >>>>>Thanks >>>>>Eve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:35 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for that Eve >>>>>> >>>>>> Every little bit of information helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Re your first guess of Saundersfoot - apart from it being in >>>>>> Pembrokeshire I beleive the ironworks were only set up in 1847 so >>>>>> that >>>>>> is another bit of info agianst it being Saundersfoot. >>>>>> >>>>>> I may take a while to mull over the problem - but I'll get back to >>>>>> you >>>>>> even if it just to say I have failed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP04EFDA6739B52EF93ECD17C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>>Yes Pat an Iron Founder >>>>>>>Eve >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:25 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Eve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't you have the occupation of David's father Thomas Jones from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> marriage certificate? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP0587C41211183548E1B3FDC26E0@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>>>>Hi Pat >>>>>>>>>Saundersfoot was just a shot in the dark >>>>>>>>>David Died in 1858 in Wokingham Berks. and is buried in Baptist >>>>>>>>>churchyard >>>>>>>>>there >>>>>>>>>He married Harriet Tuck (also a Tailor) 19th January 1840 St. >>>>>>>>>Sepulcre >>>>>>>>>London City. and in 1851 they are in Hartley Row. Hants. >>>>>>>>>Sorry that is all I know >>>>>>>>>Eve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Pat Powell >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & >>>>>>>> Information >>>>>>>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >>>>>>>cannot >>>>>>>find - >>>>>>>Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >>>>>>>Farm >>>>>>>House etc >>>>>>>etc - He will search the Database >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Pat Powell >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pat Powell >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >>>> cannot >>>> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of >>>> the >>>> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> -- >> Pat Powell >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk
That's what I wondered. Pat In message <00c201c5e206$31a957f0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >Hi Pat > >Could the end of the place in census for David Jones end in ney.....not >nog.......just a thought!! > >Pauline > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:59 PM >Subject: [Cmn-L] Reply to Pauline re Thomas Jones > > >> Hi Pauline >> >> The one I found was in Merthyr Tydfil - seeing as that was the place >> where many iron workers were to be found at that time - many of whom >> would have moved up from further west. >> >> This is the family shown at the end of this e-mail - both parents come >> from Carmarthenshire - their daughter was born about 1820 in Merthyr - >> but they could have had other children earlier in Carmarthenshire. >> >> I have tried , and failed, so far to find them in 1841 - but if they >> were in the northern part of Merthyr then that section is missing from >> the 1841 census anyway - just to make things difficult!! >> >> I'm not convinced that this is the right family - but it is a possible. >> >> Cheers >> >> Pat >> >> >> 1851 census Merthyr Tydfil. >> >> piece 2479 Folio 478 schedule 152 >> >> Penydarren >> >> Thomas Jones Hd M 58 Iron founder CMN Llanarthney >> Harriet " wi M 58 CMN Llanarthney >> Sarah Davis dau W 31 GLA Merthyr Tydfil >> Hannah Davis Gdau 3 GLA Merthyr Tydfil >> >> >> >> In message <007e01c5e119$94a3c540$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>Hi Pat >>> >>>The only ironfounder aged 58 I have in 1851 is a Thomas Davies not Thomas >>>Jones, is yours living in Llanelly? >>> >>>Pauline >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:12 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>> >>> >>>> Hello Eve >>>> >>>> yes I have Llanddarog on my list of possibles. >>>> >>>> Re baptists - they do not baptise young children - so you won't find a >>>> record equivalent to a christening in church. >>>> >>>> I have found one family in 1851 where the head of household is Thomas >>>> Jones from Carmarthenshire aged 58 an Iron founder - but haven't tracked >>>> down enough to give you the details yet as I don't want to send you on a >>>> wild goose chase!!! >>>> >>>> Will get back to you later. >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP041F71975C6A3E0AA7F2E9C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>Hi Pat >>>>>I spent the day at my LDS and searched for anyplace that looked like >>>>>LANDADAY this is what shows on index, I had not noticed it before. I >>>>>think >>>>>it might be LANDEROG (LLANDDAROG) ?? >>>>>Based on that possibility do you know how I can access BAPTIST baptisms >>>>>for >>>>>about 1818. IGI seem to have CofE but not non-conformists >>>>>The Gazetteer shows IRON also Woollen the area so that fits with David >>>>>as >>>>>a >>>>>Tailor and his Father as an Iron Founder. >>>>>Any further advice would be appreciated >>>>>Thanks >>>>>Eve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:35 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for that Eve >>>>>> >>>>>> Every little bit of information helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Re your first guess of Saundersfoot - apart from it being in >>>>>> Pembrokeshire I beleive the ironworks were only set up in 1847 so that >>>>>> is another bit of info agianst it being Saundersfoot. >>>>>> >>>>>> I may take a while to mull over the problem - but I'll get back to you >>>>>> even if it just to say I have failed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP04EFDA6739B52EF93ECD17C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>>Yes Pat an Iron Founder >>>>>>>Eve >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:25 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Eve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't you have the occupation of David's father Thomas Jones from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> marriage certificate? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP0587C41211183548E1B3FDC26E0@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>>>>Hi Pat >>>>>>>>>Saundersfoot was just a shot in the dark >>>>>>>>>David Died in 1858 in Wokingham Berks. and is buried in Baptist >>>>>>>>>churchyard >>>>>>>>>there >>>>>>>>>He married Harriet Tuck (also a Tailor) 19th January 1840 St. >>>>>>>>>Sepulcre >>>>>>>>>London City. and in 1851 they are in Hartley Row. Hants. >>>>>>>>>Sorry that is all I know >>>>>>>>>Eve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Pat Powell >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & >>>>>>>> Information >>>>>>>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >>>>>>>cannot >>>>>>>find - >>>>>>>Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm >>>>>>>House etc >>>>>>>etc - He will search the Database >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Pat Powell >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pat Powell >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >>>> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >>>> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> -- >> Pat Powell >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > -- Pat Powell