Hi Fred/Pauline Yes, have already traced this one unfortunately this is not the family. The William Morgan(s) b.( similar date to wife) is a Coal Miner with wife Elizabeth (b. 1829 approx) believed to be a mid-wife. Their daughter Elizabeth was born around 1872/73 have been struggling with this one (plus I have been stupid Elizabeth would not be on the Census in 1871 if born in 72/73.) I do know the family did reside on the borders of Brecon for a while on a Farm somewhere! Is there a anyone on the list with a Brecon Census in 1881 or possibly 1871 to see if parents were together at this time, is Llanfihangel Tallyllyn on the Borders. Sorry to be so stupid on the date given. Does anyone have any suggestions as I think William and Elizabeth Morgan(s) moved around a bit so have not been able to trace birth of their daughter. Kind Regards Sue 4204 -----Original Message----- From: Fred Seamons [mailto:fseamons@ubtanet.com] Sent: 12 November 2005 23:39 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: IGI Records Hi, Could the following be your family in the 1881 census? I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if these places are close, but they're the only William and Elizabeth Morgan in Brecon in 1881 Census with daughter Elizabeth I could see. William MORGAN Head M Male 36 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Bookseller & Sawyer Elizabeth MORGAN Wife M Female 34 Cilycwm, Carmarthen, Wales Marget MORGAN Daur Female 13 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Elizabeth MORGAN Daur Female 10 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Samuel MORGAN Son Male 6 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Mary MORGAN Daur Female 3 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Morgan B. MORGAN Son Male 1 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Source Information: Dwelling Smithfield Place Census Place Lower Ystradgynlais, Brecon, Wales Family History Library Film 1342288 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Pece / Folio 5346 / 65 Page 3 Hope this helps, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Holmes" <susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: IGI Records > Hi Pauline > > > > I have found a record with the IGI via LDS in the 1881 Census > > > > Would you be able to do a check on the 1871 census to see if the family > was > there and if any ages - Elizabeth would be 2 approx > > Elizabeth Morgan born: 01 JUN 1873 > > Llanfihangel Tallyllyn, Brecon, Wales > > Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth > > Source Information: > > Batch No C081311 dates 1713-1848 Call No 0104475 Prints Call No: 1238710 > (Film) > > _____ > > > > Our could you tell me how I could get more details on this record. > > > > Would be grateful for some advise on this one. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue > > ______________________________ ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed from this mailing list

Hello Susan The 1881 census is available free online at www.familysearch.org Liz -----Original Message----- From: susan holmes [mailto:susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk] Sent: 13 November 2005 17:18 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Re: IGI Records Hi Fred/Pauline Yes, have already traced this one unfortunately this is not the family. The William Morgan(s) b.( similar date to wife) is a Coal Miner with wife Elizabeth (b. 1829 approx) believed to be a mid-wife. Their daughter Elizabeth was born around 1872/73 have been struggling with this one (plus I have been stupid Elizabeth would not be on the Census in 1871 if born in 72/73.) I do know the family did reside on the borders of Brecon for a while on a Farm somewhere! Is there a anyone on the list with a Brecon Census in 1881 or possibly 1871 to see if parents were together at this time, is Llanfihangel Tallyllyn on the Borders. Sorry to be so stupid on the date given. Does anyone have any suggestions as I think William and Elizabeth Morgan(s) moved around a bit so have not been able to trace birth of their daughter. Kind Regards Sue 4204 -----Original Message----- From: Fred Seamons [mailto:fseamons@ubtanet.com] Sent: 12 November 2005 23:39 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: IGI Records Hi, Could the following be your family in the 1881 census? I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if these places are close, but they're the only William and Elizabeth Morgan in Brecon in 1881 Census with daughter Elizabeth I could see. William MORGAN Head M Male 36 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Bookseller & Sawyer Elizabeth MORGAN Wife M Female 34 Cilycwm, Carmarthen, Wales Marget MORGAN Daur Female 13 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Elizabeth MORGAN Daur Female 10 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Samuel MORGAN Son Male 6 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Mary MORGAN Daur Female 3 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Morgan B. MORGAN Son Male 1 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Source Information: Dwelling Smithfield Place Census Place Lower Ystradgynlais, Brecon, Wales Family History Library Film 1342288 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Pece / Folio 5346 / 65 Page 3 Hope this helps, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Holmes" <susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: IGI Records > Hi Pauline > > > > I have found a record with the IGI via LDS in the 1881 Census > > > > Would you be able to do a check on the 1871 census to see if the family > was > there and if any ages - Elizabeth would be 2 approx > > Elizabeth Morgan born: 01 JUN 1873 > > Llanfihangel Tallyllyn, Brecon, Wales > > Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth > > Source Information: > > Batch No C081311 dates 1713-1848 Call No 0104475 Prints Call No: 1238710 > (Film) > > _____ > > > > Our could you tell me how I could get more details on this record. > > > > Would be grateful for some advise on this one. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue > > ______________________________ ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed from this mailing list