HI Ray What was the point of doing a census, and if you did not participate you would have a fine for not doing so and then destroying them..?? Thanks for letting me know, I lived in Sydney area from 1970 to 1973......so I will not be on the census in a hundred years time then....!! regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > Hi Pauline, > As I said to Margaret, I don't mind lookups but limit any research to what > I > can conveniently do in the time I have available. I will tell people if I > can't do research, by which I mean other than checking indexes, electoral > rolls etc. > What 1971 Census? Our stupid government has destroyed all the census since > 1900 and all we have now are the electoral rolls and directories. In the > recent census a question was included seeking to retain the data for > future > generations. I think it was approved but frankly I don't know - haven't > bothered to find out. I will now. > Regards. > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > >> HI Margaret and Ray >> >> How lucky we are.......thank you Ray for doing look-ups in Queensland >> Australia, yes Margaret.......as everyone knows this is not just a list > for >> Carmarthenshire, but for anyone with interests anywhere in the > world......!! >> I myself will be on the 1971 census in Australia...... >> >> Lists have been slowing down of late with so much information on line, it > is >> great that this one has 'woken' up lately....... >> >> regards and thanks Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:21 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> >> >> > Hello again Ray, >> > Many thanks for your help, I can "get on with it" now! >> > That was the birth of the daughter Ivy Eileen,who married into the >> > LITTLEFIELD family, which I am researching. (She had a sad end, dying > of >> > 'flu in the epidemic in 1919 in England). >> > It would be interesting to know if the young bride and groom remained >> > in >> > Australia..I have no idea what happened to them If you do find >> > anything >> > in >> > your perusals I would be delighted! >> > Many thanks again..you never know you might get a flood of requests for >> > look-ups..it could become the Carmarthenshire/Queensland list (what do > you >> > think Pauline???):-)). >> > I would be pleased to return the compliment if I can.. >> > Hwyl >> > Margaret. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:03 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> > >> > >> >> Hi Margaret, >> >> The registration number for the marriage is 1886/000904. >> >> There was a birth of Ivy Eileen HATTE 22.8.1887 reg. 1887/005476. >> >> I have the Qld Pioneers Index 1829 - 1889 at home. No places are >> >> given >> >> in >> >> these indexes. >> >> I go to the State Library most Sundays and would be happy to do some >> >> lookups. Most states have Federation Indexes usually from 1889 - 1901, >> >> Edwardian 1902 - 1913, Great War 1914 - 1920 and by and large this is >> > where >> >> the births end. Marriages and Deaths vary too but generally 1921 - > 1945, >> >> then Deaths only vary from 1945 - 1985. >> >> There has been a recent expansion of the marriage and death indexes in >> >> NSW >> >> who now have marriages to about 1953 and deaths to 1970 >> >> Because I have few direct relatives in Queensland I'm not fully au >> >> fait >> > with >> >> the details, but I think the deaths now go to about 1970. Anyhow I'd >> >> be >> >> happy to check for you. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Ray >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:00 PM >> >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Ray, thanks for the offer of finding the registration no for me. > I >> >> will send you full details off -list but the basic details are >> >> > Groom James Joseph HATTE >> >> > Bride Fanny Margaret Ivanna NICHOLAS >> >> > married on 19 October 1886 Charters Towers >> >> > Many thanks >> >> > Margaret >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >> >> > cannot >> >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of > the >> >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: >> > 31/10/2005 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >> > cannot >> > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of >> > the >> > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> > >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 >> >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >
Hi Pauline, Statistics, plain and simple. I think it was, with some justification, that there was an absolute promise that details given were under a promise of secrecy and would not be revealed. Consequently, once they were used for statistics they were destroyed. I don't think Genealogy was even on the horizon for the statisticians, it is now thank goodness. Regards. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > HI Ray > > What was the point of doing a census, and if you did not participate you > would have a fine for not doing so and then destroying them..?? > > Thanks for letting me know, I lived in Sydney area from 1970 to 1973......so > I will not be on the census in a hundred years time then....!! > > regards > Pauline > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > Hi Pauline, > > As I said to Margaret, I don't mind lookups but limit any research to what > > I > > can conveniently do in the time I have available. I will tell people if I > > can't do research, by which I mean other than checking indexes, electoral > > rolls etc. > > What 1971 Census? Our stupid government has destroyed all the census since > > 1900 and all we have now are the electoral rolls and directories. In the > > recent census a question was included seeking to retain the data for > > future > > generations. I think it was approved but frankly I don't know - haven't > > bothered to find out. I will now. > > Regards. > > > > Ray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > >> HI Margaret and Ray > >> > >> How lucky we are.......thank you Ray for doing look-ups in Queensland > >> Australia, yes Margaret.......as everyone knows this is not just a list > > for > >> Carmarthenshire, but for anyone with interests anywhere in the > > world......!! > >> I myself will be on the 1971 census in Australia...... > >> > >> Lists have been slowing down of late with so much information on line, it > > is > >> great that this one has 'woken' up lately....... > >> > >> regards and thanks Pauline > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:21 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > >> > >> > >> > Hello again Ray, > >> > Many thanks for your help, I can "get on with it" now! > >> > That was the birth of the daughter Ivy Eileen,who married into the > >> > LITTLEFIELD family, which I am researching. (She had a sad end, dying > > of > >> > 'flu in the epidemic in 1919 in England). > >> > It would be interesting to know if the young bride and groom remained > >> > in > >> > Australia..I have no idea what happened to them If you do find > >> > anything > >> > in > >> > your perusals I would be delighted! > >> > Many thanks again..you never know you might get a flood of requests for > >> > look-ups..it could become the Carmarthenshire/Queensland list (what do > > you > >> > think Pauline???):-)). > >> > I would be pleased to return the compliment if I can.. > >> > Hwyl > >> > Margaret. > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> > >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:03 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi Margaret, > >> >> The registration number for the marriage is 1886/000904. > >> >> There was a birth of Ivy Eileen HATTE 22.8.1887 reg. 1887/005476. > >> >> I have the Qld Pioneers Index 1829 - 1889 at home. No places are > >> >> given > >> >> in > >> >> these indexes. > >> >> I go to the State Library most Sundays and would be happy to do some > >> >> lookups. Most states have Federation Indexes usually from 1889 - 1901, > >> >> Edwardian 1902 - 1913, Great War 1914 - 1920 and by and large this is > >> > where > >> >> the births end. Marriages and Deaths vary too but generally 1921 - > > 1945, > >> >> then Deaths only vary from 1945 - 1985. > >> >> There has been a recent expansion of the marriage and death indexes in > >> >> NSW > >> >> who now have marriages to about 1953 and deaths to 1970 > >> >> Because I have few direct relatives in Queensland I'm not fully au > >> >> fait > >> > with > >> >> the details, but I think the deaths now go to about 1970. Anyhow I'd > >> >> be > >> >> happy to check for you. > >> >> Regards > >> >> > >> >> Ray > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:00 PM > >> >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hi Ray, thanks for the offer of finding the registration no for me. > > I > >> >> will send you full details off -list but the basic details are > >> >> > Groom James Joseph HATTE > >> >> > Bride Fanny Margaret Ivanna NICHOLAS > >> >> > married on 19 October 1886 Charters Towers > >> >> > Many thanks > >> >> > Margaret > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you > >> >> > cannot > >> >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of > > the > >> >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> >> > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: > >> > 31/10/2005 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you > >> > cannot > >> > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of > >> > the > >> > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > > questions & Quiries. > >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 5/11/2005 > >
Thanks for the explanation Ray........sorts it out for us... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > Hi Pauline, > Statistics, plain and simple. > I think it was, with some justification, that there was an absolute > promise > that details given were under a promise of secrecy and would not be > revealed. Consequently, once they were used for statistics they were > destroyed. I don't think Genealogy was even on the horizon for the > statisticians, it is now thank goodness. > Regards. > > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > >> HI Ray >> >> What was the point of doing a census, and if you did not participate you >> would have a fine for not doing so and then destroying them..?? >> >> Thanks for letting me know, I lived in Sydney area from 1970 to > 1973......so >> I will not be on the census in a hundred years time then....!! >> >> regards >> Pauline >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> >> >> > Hi Pauline, >> > As I said to Margaret, I don't mind lookups but limit any research to > what >> > I >> > can conveniently do in the time I have available. I will tell people if > I >> > can't do research, by which I mean other than checking indexes, > electoral >> > rolls etc. >> > What 1971 Census? Our stupid government has destroyed all the census > since >> > 1900 and all we have now are the electoral rolls and directories. In >> > the >> > recent census a question was included seeking to retain the data for >> > future >> > generations. I think it was approved but frankly I don't know - haven't >> > bothered to find out. I will now. >> > Regards. >> > >> > Ray >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:02 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> > >> > >> >> HI Margaret and Ray >> >> >> >> How lucky we are.......thank you Ray for doing look-ups in Queensland >> >> Australia, yes Margaret.......as everyone knows this is not just a >> >> list >> > for >> >> Carmarthenshire, but for anyone with interests anywhere in the >> > world......!! >> >> I myself will be on the 1971 census in Australia...... >> >> >> >> Lists have been slowing down of late with so much information on line, > it >> > is >> >> great that this one has 'woken' up lately....... >> >> >> >> regards and thanks Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:21 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello again Ray, >> >> > Many thanks for your help, I can "get on with it" now! >> >> > That was the birth of the daughter Ivy Eileen,who married into the >> >> > LITTLEFIELD family, which I am researching. (She had a sad end, > dying >> > of >> >> > 'flu in the epidemic in 1919 in England). >> >> > It would be interesting to know if the young bride and groom >> >> > remained >> >> > in >> >> > Australia..I have no idea what happened to them If you do find >> >> > anything >> >> > in >> >> > your perusals I would be delighted! >> >> > Many thanks again..you never know you might get a flood of requests > for >> >> > look-ups..it could become the Carmarthenshire/Queensland list (what > do >> > you >> >> > think Pauline???):-)). >> >> > I would be pleased to return the compliment if I can.. >> >> > Hwyl >> >> > Margaret. >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> >> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:03 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Margaret, >> >> >> The registration number for the marriage is 1886/000904. >> >> >> There was a birth of Ivy Eileen HATTE 22.8.1887 reg. 1887/005476. >> >> >> I have the Qld Pioneers Index 1829 - 1889 at home. No places are >> >> >> given >> >> >> in >> >> >> these indexes. >> >> >> I go to the State Library most Sundays and would be happy to do >> >> >> some >> >> >> lookups. Most states have Federation Indexes usually from 1889 - > 1901, >> >> >> Edwardian 1902 - 1913, Great War 1914 - 1920 and by and large this > is >> >> > where >> >> >> the births end. Marriages and Deaths vary too but generally 1921 - >> > 1945, >> >> >> then Deaths only vary from 1945 - 1985. >> >> >> There has been a recent expansion of the marriage and death indexes > in >> >> >> NSW >> >> >> who now have marriages to about 1953 and deaths to 1970 >> >> >> Because I have few direct relatives in Queensland I'm not fully au >> >> >> fait >> >> > with >> >> >> the details, but I think the deaths now go to about 1970. Anyhow >> >> >> I'd >> >> >> be >> >> >> happy to check for you. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> Ray >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> >> >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:00 PM >> >> >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Ray, thanks for the offer of finding the registration no for > me. >> > I >> >> >> will send you full details off -list but the basic details are >> >> >> > Groom James Joseph HATTE >> >> >> > Bride Fanny Margaret Ivanna NICHOLAS >> >> >> > married on 19 October 1886 Charters Towers >> >> >> > Many thanks >> >> >> > Margaret >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >> >> >> > cannot >> >> >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name >> >> >> of >> > the >> >> >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> >> > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: >> >> > 31/10/2005 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >> >> > cannot >> >> > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of >> >> > the >> >> > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> > questions & Quiries. >> >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: > 3/11/2005 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >> > cannot >> > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of >> > the >> > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> > >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 5/11/2005 >> >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >