Hi Pat Just a thought! David Jones' wife Harriet Tuck was baptised Cof E as were all their children.The Baptist connection only shows when David is buried in Baptist cemetery in Wokingham Berks. 1858. So what if he was baptised Cof E and later converted? or why would all his children be baptised as babies in CofE. Harriet is also buried in Wokingham Baptist cemetery. what do you think? Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] Reply to Pauline re Thomas Jones > Hi Pauline > > The one I found was in Merthyr Tydfil - seeing as that was the place > where many iron workers were to be found at that time - many of whom > would have moved up from further west. > > This is the family shown at the end of this e-mail - both parents come > from Carmarthenshire - their daughter was born about 1820 in Merthyr - > but they could have had other children earlier in Carmarthenshire. > > I have tried , and failed, so far to find them in 1841 - but if they > were in the northern part of Merthyr then that section is missing from > the 1841 census anyway - just to make things difficult!! > > I'm not convinced that this is the right family - but it is a possible. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > 1851 census Merthyr Tydfil. > > piece 2479 Folio 478 schedule 152 > > Penydarren > > Thomas Jones Hd M 58 Iron founder CMN Llanarthney > Harriet " wi M 58 CMN Llanarthney > Sarah Davis dau W 31 GLA Merthyr Tydfil > Hannah Davis Gdau 3 GLA Merthyr Tydfil > > > > In message <007e01c5e119$94a3c540$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James > <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>Hi Pat >> >>The only ironfounder aged 58 I have in 1851 is a Thomas Davies not Thomas >>Jones, is yours living in Llanelly? >> >>Pauline >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:12 AM >>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >> >> >>> Hello Eve >>> >>> yes I have Llanddarog on my list of possibles. >>> >>> Re baptists - they do not baptise young children - so you won't find a >>> record equivalent to a christening in church. >>> >>> I have found one family in 1851 where the head of household is Thomas >>> Jones from Carmarthenshire aged 58 an Iron founder - but haven't tracked >>> down enough to give you the details yet as I don't want to send you on a >>> wild goose chase!!! >>> >>> Will get back to you later. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP041F71975C6A3E0AA7F2E9C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>Hi Pat >>>>I spent the day at my LDS and searched for anyplace that looked like >>>>LANDADAY this is what shows on index, I had not noticed it before. I >>>>think >>>>it might be LANDEROG (LLANDDAROG) ?? >>>>Based on that possibility do you know how I can access BAPTIST baptisms >>>>for >>>>about 1818. IGI seem to have CofE but not non-conformists >>>>The Gazetteer shows IRON also Woollen the area so that fits with David >>>>as >>>>a >>>>Tailor and his Father as an Iron Founder. >>>>Any further advice would be appreciated >>>>Thanks >>>>Eve >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:35 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for that Eve >>>>> >>>>> Every little bit of information helps. >>>>> >>>>> Re your first guess of Saundersfoot - apart from it being in >>>>> Pembrokeshire I beleive the ironworks were only set up in 1847 so that >>>>> is another bit of info agianst it being Saundersfoot. >>>>> >>>>> I may take a while to mull over the problem - but I'll get back to you >>>>> even if it just to say I have failed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP04EFDA6739B52EF93ECD17C2610@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>Yes Pat an Iron Founder >>>>>>Eve >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>>>>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:25 PM >>>>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] Re David & Thomas Jones for Eve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Eve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you have the occupation of David's father Thomas Jones from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> marriage certificate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In message <BAYC1-PASMTP0587C41211183548E1B3FDC26E0@CEZ.ICE>, Eve >>>>>>> Ferguson <Coyston@sympatico.ca> writes >>>>>>>>Hi Pat >>>>>>>>Saundersfoot was just a shot in the dark >>>>>>>>David Died in 1858 in Wokingham Berks. and is buried in Baptist >>>>>>>>churchyard >>>>>>>>there >>>>>>>>He married Harriet Tuck (also a Tailor) 19th January 1840 St. >>>>>>>>Sepulcre >>>>>>>>London City. and in 1851 they are in Hartley Row. Hants. >>>>>>>>Sorry that is all I know >>>>>>>>Eve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Pat Powell >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & >>>>>>> Information >>>>>>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >>>>>>cannot >>>>>>find - >>>>>>Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm >>>>>>House etc >>>>>>etc - He will search the Database >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Pat Powell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>>>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pat Powell >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >>> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >>> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>> >> >> >>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk