Hi Pat, Thanks for the reply. You have the right entry in 1881. It's the one in the middle, living at Glanrhyd. It only shows her grandfather. I know this is 100% because I've just returned from Caio and I managed to find a 3rd cousin!!!! I visited the house and the lady who know owns was really sweet. The one on the 1881 is my relative Elizabeth. That is her grandfather. However,...............this is the problem. The lodger 'John Davies' is later put down in 1891 census as living next door at Pantglas and as her 'father' also put down on her marriage certificate. Now I know that lodger can also mean a relative. However, when I went to get a birth certificate for 1874 (this is 100% correct also) I found her grave - the registry kindly advised me that there was only one Elizabeth Davies with father John and although I purchased, it's the other one on your list - not mine. I've been advised by family members that she was illigitamate but having difficulty. My partner thought chase the mother as the same name as her i.e, Elizabeth - 2 reasons, one it was common to be called after your mother and second some relatives thought her mother was also called relative - but these are all hearsay/guesses. I then decided to trace Benjamin (grandfather) to see if that would shed any light - he had 3 daughter, Margaret, Mary and Elizabeth - on one census it should the other child on the 1881 Census (Thomas) living with them with a sister MaryAnn. But because 1861 is missing, I can't marry up. Can you see my problem? Pain isn't it? Regards Helen
Hi Helen just a quick word.....Conwil Caio is not missing for 1861 in the old box system in Carmarthen record office (since changed) it was in Box 5.....so you should be able to locate them....... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <HMC001@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Birth Lookup Please > Hi Pat, > > Thanks for the reply. You have the right entry in 1881. It's the one in > the middle, living at Glanrhyd. It only shows her grandfather. I know > this is > 100% because I've just returned from Caio and I managed to find a 3rd > cousin!!!! I visited the house and the lady who know owns was really > sweet. The one > on the 1881 is my relative Elizabeth. That is her grandfather. > However,...............this is the problem. The lodger 'John Davies' is > later put down > in 1891 census as living next door at Pantglas and as her 'father' also > put > down on her marriage certificate. Now I know that lodger can also mean a > relative. However, when I went to get a birth certificate for 1874 (this > is 100% > correct also) I found her grave - the registry kindly advised me that > there > was only one Elizabeth Davies with father John and although I purchased, > it's > the other one on your list - not mine. I've been advised by family > members > that she was illigitamate but having difficulty. My partner thought > chase > the mother as the same name as her i.e, Elizabeth - 2 reasons, one it was > common to be called after your mother and second some relatives thought > her mother > was also called relative - but these are all hearsay/guesses. I then > decided to trace Benjamin (grandfather) to see if that would shed any > light - he > had 3 daughter, Margaret, Mary and Elizabeth - on one census it should > the > other child on the 1881 Census (Thomas) living with them with a sister > MaryAnn. > But because 1861 is missing, I can't marry up. > > Can you see my problem? Pain isn't it? > > Regards > > Helen > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >