Hello again Pauline - Do you know where Pentre villabge Bebyr or Alt Dene. I am having a ball at the moment having found some IGI proper film on family search complete with batch numbers etc. Also I am sorry to ask you but do you have an 1851 census for Cwmafon Glam. James Thomas who married Jane William in1833 (also on of the collection of witnesses on William marriages) seems to have died there in 1855. Thanks Diana