Hi Tomi - do not despair we will get there. Can anyone help? Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomi Larson" <tomil23@hotmail.com> To: <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [CmnFHS] Re: Port arrivals > Hi Diana, > The problem is Henry is the child. His children were all born in the USA > and there were no mandatory records in Pennsylvania before 1907. I don't > know his father in Wales. Therefore, if I find some families in the > census with a child named Henry, I don't see how I know it's the right > family, right father? There are quite a few families with boys named > Henry, all born between 1840-1843. (On the US Census, Henry's birth ranges > from 1840-1843). I do know their is a woman Mary, who could be his mother, > which narrows it down a bit, but there are still a dozen families with > Mary and Henry in them and how do I ever know which is the right one? I > could order birth certificates for a dozen Henry's, but I don't see how I > figure which one is mine. The only clue is his middle name, Zacariah, > which I don't know if middle names are on birth certificates. So, I am > hoping someone with more knowledge than I can help eliminate the dozens of > Henrys to find a few excellent possibilities. That is why I joined the > CFHS, hoping someone with a knowledge of the area, etc could help. So many > people are more adept at 'surfing' the census information than I seem to > be. So far I haven't got many responses from the list, except from you and > one or two others. > > I have printed about 10 different census pages with likely Henrys, but > that's where I am stuck. I am hoping the 1841 census might help me find > some possiblities of fathers, but if Henry was born in 1842, he wouldn't > be with a family in 1841. > > > Still plugging along, > Tomi > > > >>From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> >>To: "Tomi Larson" <tomil23@hotmail.com> >>Subject: Re: Fw: [CmnFHS] Re: Port arrivals >>Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 06:13:38 -0000 >> >>Hello Tomi - the only way you are going to be sure that you have the right >>person is to find the birth certificate of one of the children of Henry. >>Anyone born AFTER 1837. Send off for the certificate (you can do it at >>www.1837online.com ) you then have the father with occupation and the >>mother with maiden name and the place where the child was registered. >>Then we will know where to start to look for a marriage. Even before >>1837 all marriages in the UK took place in parish churches, they were not >>allowed to get married anywhere else and the parish records are all >>available (well mostly). All baptisms are recorded in the parish >>records >>alot of which are transcribed and if he does come from Carmarthenshire or >>Glamorgan then you will have every chance of finding not only his marriage >>but also his entry of baptism. ALL children were baptised - not >>necessarily at birth and often the whole family of the children were done >>together as it was cheaper. They are there it is just a case of >>logically >>finding them. >> >>The only problem you will have with baptisms is if they were in the >>Baptist >>Church. These are only baptised as adults in the strict baptist >>churches >>such as Adulam and up until a couple of months ago none of these records >>of >>Adulam had been transcribed or translated from the Welsh. This is what >>Gwenda (doing the welsh bit) and I have been doing for the months before >>Christmas. This section of their records is finished - it was a total >>mess >>and a nightmare to do and we were both exhausted at the end of it. I >>have >>another 50 pages from another section to do but cannot face it at the >>moment!! >> >>We do all have our brickwalls - only last night I found one of my >>husband's >>family living with a different family!! He had been searching for that >>one for years. The little clue was that on one of the censuses it gave >>a different birth place to the general area!! That was how we found her. >> >>So.......give the list the name and approximate date of birth of a child >>of Henry Lewis and let us find that first. Then send off for the >>certificate. Then we will be able to find the marriage. The marriage >>certificate will give the name of the father of Henry Lewis along with the >>father's occupation. >> >>hope this helps >>Diana >> >> >> > > > >