HI Glen The registry office may have a marriage of David Jenkins and Elizabeth Jones then.......ask them to see.... In the past when ordering a birth certificate the mothers maiden name has been given incorrectly.......ask if they would check another childs birth certificate and ask if the mothers maiden name is still Jones.....or if changed to Davies.... send a query to Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > Sorry Pauline > > Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I > thought this marriage was the one until I received a > birth certificate of one of the children and mother is > Elizabeth Jones. > > But you must be a mind reader to know of LLangeler!! > > Glen > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > >> Glen you did not say that both Daniel and Elizabeth >> were from Llangeler, >> just looked at 1851 census...... >> >> Is this their marriage? >> >> 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church >> David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the >> parish >> >> I looked to see if they baptised their children in >> the church but no they >> did not.....the marriage looks a good match >> >> let me know Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> > Glen >> > >> > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in the >> parish church .....when >> > registration came into being by June 1837 they >> could marry in parish >> > church, chapel with registrar present or registry >> office....... >> > >> > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen >> registry office if they >> > can find the marriage for you if after 1837..... >> > >> > You state you have them in later census ? Where >> were they can you give us >> > a clue.... >> > >> > thanks Paulne >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> > >> > >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy of >> it >> >> in my research file. I suspected that they were >> >> non-conformist for some time because I have not >> been >> >> able to find a marriage for them or >> >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. >> The >> >> children that I know of are: >> >> >> >> John 1837 >> >> Esther 1839 >> >> Rachel 1840 >> >> David 1842 >> >> Mary 1846 >> >> Daniel 1848 >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Glen Jenkins >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Glen >> >>> >> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from Conwil >> >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah >> >>> Davies and their respective family....I know >> exactly >> >>> where Dinah (also nee >> >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children were >> >>> living when they got married >> >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time of >> her >> >>> death they lived in >> >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot find >> her >> >>> burial details.....they >> >>> christened their children in Bethel Calvinistic >> >>> Methodist chapel Conwil >> >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot find >> a >> >>> headstone for her (I have >> >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have never >> >>> even found Daniel's death >> >>> let alone a burial after years of >> searching.....If >> >>> non-conformist and there >> >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these >> >>> chapels records rarely >> >>> survived if they had any in the first place... >> >>> >> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in case >> the >> >>> ones mentioned above are >> >>> there...... >> >>> >> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel >> between >> >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed >> >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know >> >>> >> >>> Pauline >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM >> >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > Hi All >> >>> > >> >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins >> >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins >> >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. For most of their >> >>> lives >> >>> > they lived in Conwil Elvet parish in a small >> farm >> >>> call >> >>> > Manllwyd. The farm is located West of the >> "Railway >> >>> > Inn" at Clytiau Cochion which is North of >> >>> > LLanpumsaint. >> >>> > >> >>> > I wondered if anyone knows this area well and >> >>> could >> >>> > help. I have looked in Conwil Elvet registers >> and >> >>> > Llanpumsaint but no luck which suggests that >> they >> >>> were >> >>> > non-conformist. Their son Daniel was married >> in >> >>> Gideon >> >>> > Chapel Mydrim. >> >>> > >> >>> > All suggestions welcomed >> >>> > >> >>> > Glen Jenkins >> >>> > Swansea >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> >>> > Yahoo! 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Pauline As usual that is an excellent suggestion. I have assumed that this is the same Elizabeth but I have been caught out before making that assumption and it may be the case here. Why didn't I think of that?! Glen --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > HI Glen > > The registry office may have a marriage of David > Jenkins and Elizabeth Jones > then.......ask them to see.... > > In the past when ordering a birth certificate the > mothers maiden name has > been given incorrectly.......ask if they would check > another childs birth > certificate and ask if the mothers maiden name is > still Jones.....or if > changed to Davies.... > > send a query to > > Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk > > Pauline > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > > > > Sorry Pauline > > > > Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I > > thought this marriage was the one until I received > a > > birth certificate of one of the children and > mother is > > Elizabeth Jones. > > > > But you must be a mind reader to know of > LLangeler!! > > > > Glen > > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > > > >> Glen you did not say that both Daniel and > Elizabeth > >> were from Llangeler, > >> just looked at 1851 census...... > >> > >> Is this their marriage? > >> > >> 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church > >> David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the > >> parish > >> > >> I looked to see if they baptised their children > in > >> the church but no they > >> did not.....the marriage looks a good match > >> > >> let me know Pauline > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >> > >> > >> > Glen > >> > > >> > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in > the > >> parish church .....when > >> > registration came into being by June 1837 they > >> could marry in parish > >> > church, chapel with registrar present or > registry > >> office....... > >> > > >> > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen > >> registry office if they > >> > can find the marriage for you if after > 1837..... > >> > > >> > You state you have them in later census ? > Where > >> were they can you give us > >> > a clue.... > >> > > >> > thanks Paulne > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >> > > >> > > >> >> Pauline > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy > of > >> it > >> >> in my research file. I suspected that they > were > >> >> non-conformist for some time because I have > not > >> been > >> >> able to find a marriage for them or > >> >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. > >> The > >> >> children that I know of are: > >> >> > >> >> John 1837 > >> >> Esther 1839 > >> >> Rachel 1840 > >> >> David 1842 > >> >> Mary 1846 > >> >> Daniel 1848 > >> >> > >> >> Regards > >> >> > >> >> Glen Jenkins > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Hi Glen > >> >>> > >> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from > Conwil > >> >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah > >> >>> Davies and their respective family....I know > >> exactly > >> >>> where Dinah (also nee > >> >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children > were > >> >>> living when they got married > >> >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time > of > >> her > >> >>> death they lived in > >> >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot > find > >> her > >> >>> burial details.....they > >> >>> christened their children in Bethel > Calvinistic > >> >>> Methodist chapel Conwil > >> >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot > find > >> a > >> >>> headstone for her (I have > >> >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have > never > >> >>> even found Daniel's death > >> >>> let alone a burial after years of > >> searching.....If > >> >>> non-conformist and there > >> >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these > >> >>> chapels records rarely > >> >>> survived if they had any in the first > place... > >> >>> > >> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in > case > >> the > >> >>> ones mentioned above are > >> >>> there...... > >> >>> > >> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel > >> between > >> >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed > >> >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know > >> >>> > >> >>> Pauline > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > >> >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > >> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM > >> >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Hi All > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins > >> >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins > >> >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. 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