>> In the past when ordering a birth certificate the >> mothers maiden name has >> been given incorrectly.......ask if they would check >> another childs birth >> certificate and ask if the mothers maiden name is >> still Jones.....or if >> changed to Davies.... I have 2 birthcertificates both giving the maiden name of the mother as Clipson but can find no record of the marriage! OOps Gillie >> send a query to >> >> Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> > Sorry Pauline >> > >> > Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I >> > thought this marriage was the one until I received >> a >> > birth certificate of one of the children and >> mother is >> > Elizabeth Jones. >> > >> > But you must be a mind reader to know of >> LLangeler!! >> > >> > Glen >> > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Glen you did not say that both Daniel and >> Elizabeth >> >> were from Llangeler, >> >> just looked at 1851 census...... >> >> >> >> Is this their marriage? >> >> >> >> 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church >> >> David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the >> >> parish >> >> >> >> I looked to see if they baptised their children >> in >> >> the church but no they >> >> did not.....the marriage looks a good match >> >> >> >> let me know Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> >> >> >> > Glen >> >> > >> >> > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in >> the >> >> parish church .....when >> >> > registration came into being by June 1837 they >> >> could marry in parish >> >> > church, chapel with registrar present or >> registry >> >> office....... >> >> > >> >> > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen >> >> registry office if they >> >> > can find the marriage for you if after >> 1837..... >> >> > >> >> > You state you have them in later census ? >> Where >> >> were they can you give us >> >> > a clue.... >> >> > >> >> > thanks Paulne >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy >> of >> >> it >> >> >> in my research file. I suspected that they >> were >> >> >> non-conformist for some time because I have >> not >> >> been >> >> >> able to find a marriage for them or >> >> >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. >> >> The >> >> >> children that I know of are: >> >> >> >> >> >> John 1837 >> >> >> Esther 1839 >> >> >> Rachel 1840 >> >> >> David 1842 >> >> >> Mary 1846 >> >> >> Daniel 1848 >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> Glen Jenkins >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Glen >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from >> Conwil >> >> >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah >> >> >>> Davies and their respective family....I know >> >> exactly >> >> >>> where Dinah (also nee >> >> >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children >> were >> >> >>> living when they got married >> >> >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time >> of >> >> her >> >> >>> death they lived in >> >> >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot >> find >> >> her >> >> >>> burial details.....they >> >> >>> christened their children in Bethel >> Calvinistic >> >> >>> Methodist chapel Conwil >> >> >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot >> find >> >> a >> >> >>> headstone for her (I have >> >> >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have >> never >> >> >>> even found Daniel's death >> >> >>> let alone a burial after years of >> >> searching.....If >> >> >>> non-conformist and there >> >> >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these >> >> >>> chapels records rarely >> >> >>> survived if they had any in the first >> place... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in >> case >> >> the >> >> >>> ones mentioned above are >> >> >>> there...... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel >> >> between >> >> >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed >> >> >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Pauline >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> >> >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> >> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM >> >> >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > Hi All >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins >> >> >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins >> >> >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. 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