Hello Glen, Many thanks for the suggestions....my original posting didn't make much sense as it "slipped out" before I finished it! Essentially, I am "revisiting" information I have researched to ensure that I have investigated the correct line!! I have a "nagging doubt" about one link early on although the facts seem to fit. The problem is a marriage in the established church in 1871 (Llangyfelach Swansea). Both parties were chapelgoers and were later buried at Caersalem Treboeth and both were born in Carmarthenshire. David HARRIS seemed to have links with Nantycaws, as his son was later known locally as "Twmos Nantycaws". Mary Thomas, according to 1881 census was born in Llanarthney. In 1881 they were living in Mynyddgarnlwyd Clase with a family which included my grandfather. The address "Cwmbath" would logically be Cwmbach as you suggested, but it does exist on moderns maps as being part of Morriston in Swansea...I've tried the street names from there but with no luck.. Many thanks again for your links and I'll see if I can "bridge the gaps" using them! Hwyl Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Swansea CD received! > Hello Margaret > > I seem to have missed your original communication? > > A suggestion is that Cwmbath is Cwmbach, there are > several in Wales but one is also in Glamorgan in the > Cynon Valley near Aberdare. There is also a Cwmbach in > Carmarthenshire. > > For an old map try > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ > > Do you have birth dates of David Harris and his > prospecive wife Mary Thomas and have you tried the > 1881 Census on line? at > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp > > Hope this helps > > Glen Jenkins > > --- SM Coomey <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> wrote: > > > Hi Pauline, > > received the Glam 1871 CD yesterday..thanks very > > much! > > I've ploughed through it but no luck so far in > > finding my David HARRI(E)S and his prospective wife > > Mary THOMAS (to be married 4 months later in > > Llangyfelach parish Church). > > Any hints on searching??.there is a street index, > > but the only possible address I have are > > "Morriston" on wedding certificate (1871) for both > > parties and "Cwmbath,"(1876) which is also an area > > as opposed to a street. I've tried a few nearby > > streets from a modern map, but of course many of > > those streets did not exist then! (Even the ones > > which I thought were very old!) > > Would it help to print that area out somehow? > > Help!! > > Hwyl > > Margaret. > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web > > links and research questions & Quiries. > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Model Search 2005 - Find the next catwalk superstars - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hot/model-search/ > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >

Helo Margaret I can see your concern here. I have a few Thomas's myself mostly in Pembrokeshire and it is difficult sorting one out from the other. I have been lucky in linking mine to their occupation e.g. mason and rope maker, to make sure I have the right one! With names like David and Mary I agree you need to be clear that these are OK. It was common for non-conformists to marry in the established church before 1837 but with civil registration as you probably know there was no need. Perhaps they converted to Baptist in the intervening period? This is the period of the greatest growth in non-conformity. Finally hope you have look up Cwmbath in Morriston on old maps its at grid reference 266674,198071. I live in Swansea and have never heard of it!! Good luck with the research Glen --- SM Coomey <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> wrote: > Hello Glen, > Many thanks for the suggestions....my original > posting didn't make much > sense as it "slipped out" before I finished it! > Essentially, I am > "revisiting" information I have researched to ensure > that I have > investigated the correct line!! I have a "nagging > doubt" about one link > early on although the facts seem to fit. > The problem is a marriage in the established church > in 1871 (Llangyfelach > Swansea). Both parties were chapelgoers and were > later buried at Caersalem > Treboeth and both were born in Carmarthenshire. > David HARRIS seemed to have links with Nantycaws, as > his son was later known > locally as "Twmos Nantycaws". Mary Thomas, > according to 1881 census was > born in Llanarthney. In 1881 they were living in > Mynyddgarnlwyd Clase with > a family which included my grandfather. > The address "Cwmbath" would logically be Cwmbach as > you suggested, but it > does exist on moderns maps as being part of > Morriston in Swansea...I've > tried the street names from there but with no luck.. > Many thanks again for your links and I'll see if I > can "bridge the gaps" > using them! > Hwyl > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Swansea CD received! > > > > Hello Margaret > > > > I seem to have missed your original communication? > > > > A suggestion is that Cwmbath is Cwmbach, there are > > several in Wales but one is also in Glamorgan in > the > > Cynon Valley near Aberdare. There is also a > Cwmbach in > > Carmarthenshire. > > > > For an old map try > > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ > > > > Do you have birth dates of David Harris and his > > prospecive wife Mary Thomas and have you tried the > > 1881 Census on line? at > > > > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Glen Jenkins > > > > --- SM Coomey <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Pauline, > > > received the Glam 1871 CD yesterday..thanks very > > > much! > > > I've ploughed through it but no luck so far in > > > finding my David HARRI(E)S and his prospective > wife > > > Mary THOMAS (to be married 4 months later in > > > Llangyfelach parish Church). > > > Any hints on searching??.there is a street > index, > > > but the only possible address I have are > > > "Morriston" on wedding certificate (1871) for > both > > > parties and "Cwmbath,"(1876) which is also an > area > > > as opposed to a street. I've tried a few nearby > > > streets from a modern map, but of course many of > > > those streets did not exist then! (Even the ones > > > which I thought were very old!) > > > Would it help to print that area out somehow? > > > Help!! > > > Hwyl > > > Margaret. > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical > web > > > links and research questions & Quiries. > > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Model Search 2005 - Find the next catwalk > superstars - > http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hot/model-search/ > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in > Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com