Hi Pauline, Just to update you on my attempt to obtain Rees Morgan's birth certificate. After all the information I sent from the 1851 and 1861 census, they still couldn't find the certificate for him, so I still can't find his mother's maiden name. The cheque has been back and fore to Carmarthen Register Office so often, it's now collecting airmiles. I'll just have to keep plodding on. Enjoy the New Year regards Ken