Hi Fee On the Carmarthenshire FHS online indexes Llanstephan has pretty good cover....the baptisms are from 1813-1882.......why do you say they only go to 1837? The marriages are the only ones that stop at 1837...... Thanks for your help on this query..... Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caliandris Sent: 12 January 2010 17:27 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Williams 1871 - Llanstephan I've just realised you have linked the baptism to the census due to the father's profession - it takes a while to get up to speed with another person's research. The parish records for Llanstephan on the Carmarthenshie FHS unhelpfully stop at 1837, and searching the indexes, it seems Williams is worse than my maiden name of Clarke! I'll see what I can find.... Fee --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Caliandris <caliandris@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi there Anne, > It will help a lot if you can provide us with all the information you > have.  For example, you say that you have discovered that your great > grandmother is on the 1871 census as Hannah William, (good catch btw) > but not why you believe this to be your grandmother?  Is it just the > name and place, notwithstanding the faulty ancestry transcription?  > Are the entries for 1881 or 1861 for that family/location are any > help? Did you already have information about brothers and sisters? On > the 1881 census for Wales, I can find three Hannah Williams, born in > Llanstephan between 1867-1869, and no Harriet Williams born in > Llanstephan specifically, although there are a couple who just have > Carmarthenshire as their birthplace. One assumes that as she is your > great grandma, she survived past the > 1881 census! Do you already have an 1881 entry for her? > > I'm thinking you must have other, circumstantial evidence that lead > you to think that this entry is right, but I am wondering what it is?  > If I am researching a family and find evidence which links them to a > census entry, the first thing I would do would be to try to go back in > time to the previous census.  If you are sure this entry is correct, > I'd be following the trail of the mother, Mary, in the first instance, > I think. > > You mention a baptism of Mary Ann - actually on the Carmarthenshire > FHS site, I can find two at Llanstephan, one in 1866, Mary Ann > Williams, daughter of Edwin and Mary, and one in 1867, Mary Ann > Williams, daughter of William and Mary, which is the one you referred > to.  I'm wondering if there is a reason why you have rejected one and > decided on the other, as there is a Mary as the mother for both? > > I'll do my best to help if I can.  I'm pretty good on census trails, > and so with any extra information you can give, will have a look at > them for you. To be able to go forward and back in time it would help > to know her married name and husband, if you don't mind divulging it. > bws > Fee > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, marlholes@aol.com <marlholes@aol.com> > wrote: > >    I wonder if anyone could help - I am tying to find information  > > on my great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( > > Llanstephan)  who  appears > > on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The > entry > > shows her > > living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary > (Head - > > Tailor's Wife - born > >  in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John > Danish William > > - I think this > > should  be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, > Harriet > > is aged one. > >    I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann Williams being  christened > > in 1868 at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary > and > > his  occupation was > > a tailor.  Where can I find out more? > >     This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census for  Llanstephan - on > > page 1 is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel and  the > > mother is Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? > >      I seem to be up against a brick wall - Please  could someone > > help me. > >    Thanks > > Anne > > > >       > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message