Hi there Anne, It will help a lot if you can provide us with all the information you have. For example, you say that you have discovered that your great grandmother is on the 1871 census as Hannah William, (good catch btw) but not why you believe this to be your grandmother? Is it just the name and place, notwithstanding the faulty ancestry transcription? Are the entries for 1881 or 1861 for that family/location are any help? Did you already have information about brothers and sisters? On the 1881 census for Wales, I can find three Hannah Williams, born in Llanstephan between 1867-1869, and no Harriet Williams born in Llanstephan specifically, although there are a couple who just have Carmarthenshire as their birthplace. One assumes that as she is your great grandma, she survived past the 1881 census! Do you already have an 1881 entry for her? I'm thinking you must have other, circumstantial evidence that lead you to think that this entry is right, but I am wondering what it is? If I am researching a family and find evidence which links them to a census entry, the first thing I would do would be to try to go back in time to the previous census. If you are sure this entry is correct, I'd be following the trail of the mother, Mary, in the first instance, I think. You mention a baptism of Mary Ann - actually on the Carmarthenshire FHS site, I can find two at Llanstephan, one in 1866, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of Edwin and Mary, and one in 1867, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of William and Mary, which is the one you referred to. I'm wondering if there is a reason why you have rejected one and decided on the other, as there is a Mary as the mother for both? I'll do my best to help if I can. I'm pretty good on census trails, and so with any extra information you can give, will have a look at them for you. To be able to go forward and back in time it would help to know her married name and husband, if you don't mind divulging it. bws Fee --- On Tue, 12/1/10, marlholes@aol.com <marlholes@aol.com> wrote: >    I wonder if anyone could help - I am > tying to find information  on my > great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( > Llanstephan)  who  appears > on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The entry > shows her  > living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary (Head - > Tailor's Wife - born > in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John Danish William > - I think this > should  be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, Harriet > is aged one. >    I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann > Williams being  christened in 1868 > at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary and > his  occupation was > a tailor.  Where can I find out more? >     This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census > for  Llanstephan - on page 1 > is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel > and  the mother is > Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? >      I seem to be up against a brick > wall - Please  could someone help me. >    Thanks > Anne

I've just realised you have linked the baptism to the census due to the father's profession - it takes a while to get up to speed with another person's research. The parish records for Llanstephan on the Carmarthenshie FHS unhelpfully stop at 1837, and searching the indexes, it seems Williams is worse than my maiden name of Clarke! I'll see what I can find.... Fee --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Caliandris <caliandris@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi there Anne, > It will help a lot if you can provide us with all the > information you have.  For example, you say that you > have discovered that your great grandmother is on the 1871 > census as Hannah William, (good catch btw) but not why you > believe this to be your grandmother?  Is it just the > name and place, notwithstanding the faulty ancestry > transcription?  Are the entries for 1881 or 1861 for > that family/location are any help? Did you already have > information about brothers and sisters? On the 1881 census > for Wales, I can find three Hannah Williams, born in > Llanstephan between 1867-1869, and no Harriet Williams born > in Llanstephan specifically, although there are a couple who > just have Carmarthenshire as their birthplace. One assumes > that as she is your great grandma, she survived past the > 1881 census! Do you already have an 1881 entry for her? > > I'm thinking you must have other, circumstantial evidence > that lead you to think that this entry is right, but I am > wondering what it is?  If I am researching a family and > find evidence which links them to a census entry, the first > thing I would do would be to try to go back in time to the > previous census.  If you are sure this entry is > correct, I'd be following the trail of the mother, Mary, in > the first instance, I think. > > You mention a baptism of Mary Ann - actually on the > Carmarthenshire FHS site, I can find two at Llanstephan, one > in 1866, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of Edwin and Mary, and > one in 1867, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of William and > Mary, which is the one you referred to.  I'm wondering > if there is a reason why you have rejected one and decided > on the other, as there is a Mary as the mother for both? > > I'll do my best to help if I can.  I'm pretty good on > census trails, and so with any extra information you can > give, will have a look at them for you. To be able to go > forward and back in time it would help to know her married > name and husband, if you don't mind divulging it. > bws > Fee > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, marlholes@aol.com > <marlholes@aol.com> > wrote: > >    I wonder if anyone could help - I am > > tying to find information  on my > > great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( > > Llanstephan)  who  appears > > on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The > entry > > shows her  > > living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary > (Head - > > Tailor's Wife - born > >  in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John > Danish William > > - I think this > > should  be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, > Harriet > > is aged one. > >    I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann > > Williams being  christened in 1868 > > at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary > and > > his  occupation was > > a tailor.  Where can I find out more? > >     This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census > > for  Llanstephan - on page 1 > > is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel > > and  the mother is > > Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? > >      I seem to be up against a brick > > wall - Please  could someone help me. > >    Thanks > > Anne > > > >       > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >