Sorry just me testing as finding my way around my new system.......quite a headache!! Sorry Pauline
HI Elwyn Sion Llanelli marriages will be in Carmarthenshire registry office, as Llanelli records have now been moved there......Do you know who she married? Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elwyn Schreuder Sent: 17 January 2010 09:57 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CMN-L] lookup Hello list, Has somebody come across a wedding of Mary Ann Robert, born 22-12-1847, dau of John Robert and Mary Morgan. Possibly living at Columbia Row, Llanelli. So marriage could have been at Sion. Not at Adulam as they were not near there like the rest of my family. Her brother Robert Roberts married at Sion in 1886. He was born in 1862. Elwyn. http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Mervyn Have you tried both St Pauls and St Elli under Llanelly parish, not the master burials? Do you know if they were of the parish church or non-conformists? If non-conformists they could be in Box Cemetary.... Let me know Thanks Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Lewis Luz Sent: 16 January 2010 17:45 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials could any one give me advice on tracing turn of last century llanelly burials - i got nowhere with ancestry for the exact gro death year and quarter and the carmarthenshire master burials index on ukgenealogy did not help either - what is know is that my grandmothers parents are in the 1911 census in llanelly - and prob died either that year or a couple after that i.e david lloyd davies b.1863 (Carmarthen) and his wife mary ellen davies b 1863 (Poplar). they lived in pottery place, llanelly 1911, which church burial index would they be in? any advice welcome as i have tried all the above mervyn http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Forwarding this from Diane....thanks Diane... -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-fhs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-fhs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Williams Sent: 15 January 2010 17:27 To: carmarthenshire-fhs@rootsweb.com Subject: [CMN-FHS] Llanelli Registry Office All certificates from Llanelli now have to be obtained from Carmarthen, a few look-ups are possible but cannot be confirmed as all the registers have been taken to Carmarthen just in case any of you had a journey planned to Llanelli. Regards Diane 2010 Membership now being Taken.....
Forwarding this information from Althea.....thanks Althea!! -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-fhs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-fhs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Althea John Sent: 15 January 2010 17:15 To: glamorgan; CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L@rootsweb.com; Liza Osborne Subject: [CMN-FHS] Neath Registry office new charge I just making anyone aware who are thinking of using Neath registry office to buy their certificates I went there yesterday ,friendly service but new policy in force since Jan 4th . If you want your family history certificate on the same day its a £7 standard charge Plus £3 charge . They looked to see if mine was there (It wasnt ) and if it had been I would have been able to go back in a few days to pick it up and the charge then would have been the normal £7. Althea 2010 Membership now being Taken..... 25% discount when paying before 31st December 2009...... ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== ACCESS URL FOR CARMARTHENSHIRE MEMBERS ONLINE DATABASES: http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Members Login for ONLINE DATABASES http://www.uk-genealogy-online.com ~~This is a closed list for Members only~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello list, Has somebody come across a wedding of Mary Ann Robert, born 22-12-1847, dau of John Robert and Mary Morgan. Possibly living at Columbia Row, Llanelli. So marriage could have been at Sion. Not at Adulam as they were not near there like the rest of my family. Her brother Robert Roberts married at Sion in 1886. He was born in 1862. Elwyn.
Hi How sure are you that they died around 1911 as they would have both been quite young (about 48yrs of age)? If you have a firmer idea of a year range when they might have died would help as you could the E-Mail registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk with the details you have and then they could so a search around this time period for you. Have you also tried searching under Mary E Davies and David L Davies as quite often just an initial is given in the records for any middle name: For example, I don't think it is yours as it in Llandovery, but there is a Mary E Davies of the right age (54) who died in Llandovery in June Qtr 1917 (found on free BMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl , but be aware these records are incomplete) DAVIES Mary E age 54 Llandovery 11a1126 Plus more promising is a David L Davies again of the right age (63) who died Dec Quarter 1926 Davies David L age 63 Llanelly 11a1066 Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Lewis Luz" <mervyn1@bezeqint.net> To: <carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials > could any one give me advice on tracing turn of last century llanelly > burials > - i got nowhere with ancestry for the exact gro death year and quarter and > the carmarthenshire master > burials index on ukgenealogy did not help either - > what is know is that my grandmothers parents are in the 1911 census in > llanelly - and prob died either that year or a couple after that i.e david > lloyd davies b.1863 (Carmarthen) and his wife mary ellen davies b 1863 > (Poplar). > they lived in pottery place, llanelly 1911, which church burial index > would > they be in? > any advice welcome as i have tried all the above > mervyn > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
could any one give me advice on tracing turn of last century llanelly burials - i got nowhere with ancestry for the exact gro death year and quarter and the carmarthenshire master burials index on ukgenealogy did not help either - what is know is that my grandmothers parents are in the 1911 census in llanelly - and prob died either that year or a couple after that i.e david lloyd davies b.1863 (Carmarthen) and his wife mary ellen davies b 1863 (Poplar). they lived in pottery place, llanelly 1911, which church burial index would they be in? any advice welcome as i have tried all the above mervyn
Hi Elwyn, Sadly not, but then I have only lived here since 1995, before that Felinfoel was somewhere I passed through on the way into or out of town. Regards John. 2010/1/13 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > Ever heard of the Felinfoel String Band? > > Elwyn. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens John Jones > Verzonden: woensdag 13 januari 2010 17:58 > Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] ty dan y bank > > Hi Elwyn, > > Sorry I havent gotten back to you yet.. been unable o get up to where I > think the house is due to the snow (which it did here again last night)... > I > will venture up there soon as it clears. > > John. > > > > 2010/1/10 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > > > Wonder if you will find the cottage. > > > > Elwyn. > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens John Jones > > Verzonden: zondag 10 januari 2010 1:36 > > Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] ty dan y bank > > > > Hello Elwyn, > > Long time no speak :) > > > > There is a place just above Felinfoel called Dan Y Banc, is now mostly a > > council estate but there are some older house along the old railway track > > that ran up to the Colliery. I think it is even possible that I noted a > > house there with the name Ty Dan y Banc, but not certain of that. I will > > go > > check in the morning. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Jones > > (Felinfoel) > > > > 2010/1/1 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year to you all! > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonder if somebody has come across the abode Ty dan y bank in Llanelli. > > One > > > of my Roberts ancestors could possibly have lived there. 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Ever heard of the Felinfoel String Band? Elwyn. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens John Jones Verzonden: woensdag 13 januari 2010 17:58 Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] ty dan y bank Hi Elwyn, Sorry I havent gotten back to you yet.. been unable o get up to where I think the house is due to the snow (which it did here again last night)... I will venture up there soon as it clears. John. 2010/1/10 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > Wonder if you will find the cottage. > > Elwyn. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens John Jones > Verzonden: zondag 10 januari 2010 1:36 > Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] ty dan y bank > > Hello Elwyn, > Long time no speak :) > > There is a place just above Felinfoel called Dan Y Banc, is now mostly a > council estate but there are some older house along the old railway track > that ran up to the Colliery. I think it is even possible that I noted a > house there with the name Ty Dan y Banc, but not certain of that. I will > go > check in the morning. > > Best Regards > > John Jones > (Felinfoel) > > 2010/1/1 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > Happy New Year to you all! > > > > > > > > Wonder if somebody has come across the abode Ty dan y bank in Llanelli. > One > > of my Roberts ancestors could possibly have lived there. Possibly Edward > > Roberts Jr or Thomas Roberts > > > > His father Edward Roberts was at Llanelli in 1794 before he died. > > > > > > > > Elwyn / Netherlands. > > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info <http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> < > http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> > > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > My Genealogy: http://www.genesrus.org > > GENECHAT: A Great way to communicate and share your experiences in your > Genealogy Hobby: http://www.genesrus.org/genechat/ > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info <http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 8.5.432 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.124/2598 - datum van uitgifte: > 01/09/10 07:35:00 > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info <http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My Genealogy: http://www.genesrus.org GENECHAT: A Great way to communicate and share your experiences in your Genealogy Hobby: http://www.genesrus.org/genechat/ http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.432 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.137/2617 - datum van uitgifte: 01/12/10 19:35:00
Hi Elwyn, Sorry I havent gotten back to you yet.. been unable o get up to where I think the house is due to the snow (which it did here again last night)... I will venture up there soon as it clears. John. 2010/1/10 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > Wonder if you will find the cottage. > > Elwyn. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens John Jones > Verzonden: zondag 10 januari 2010 1:36 > Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] ty dan y bank > > Hello Elwyn, > Long time no speak :) > > There is a place just above Felinfoel called Dan Y Banc, is now mostly a > council estate but there are some older house along the old railway track > that ran up to the Colliery. I think it is even possible that I noted a > house there with the name Ty Dan y Banc, but not certain of that. I will > go > check in the morning. > > Best Regards > > John Jones > (Felinfoel) > > 2010/1/1 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > Happy New Year to you all! > > > > > > > > Wonder if somebody has come across the abode Ty dan y bank in Llanelli. > One > > of my Roberts ancestors could possibly have lived there. Possibly Edward > > Roberts Jr or Thomas Roberts > > > > His father Edward Roberts was at Llanelli in 1794 before he died. > > > > > > > > Elwyn / Netherlands. > > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info <http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> < > http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> > > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > My Genealogy: http://www.genesrus.org > > GENECHAT: A Great way to communicate and share your experiences in your > Genealogy Hobby: http://www.genesrus.org/genechat/ > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info <http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 8.5.432 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.124/2598 - datum van uitgifte: > 01/09/10 07:35:00 > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info <http://www.dyfedfreegen.info/> > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My Genealogy: http://www.genesrus.org GENECHAT: A Great way to communicate and share your experiences in your Genealogy Hobby: http://www.genesrus.org/genechat/
Hi Fee On the Carmarthenshire FHS online indexes Llanstephan has pretty good cover....the baptisms are from 1813-1882.......why do you say they only go to 1837? The marriages are the only ones that stop at 1837...... Thanks for your help on this query..... Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caliandris Sent: 12 January 2010 17:27 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Williams 1871 - Llanstephan I've just realised you have linked the baptism to the census due to the father's profession - it takes a while to get up to speed with another person's research. The parish records for Llanstephan on the Carmarthenshie FHS unhelpfully stop at 1837, and searching the indexes, it seems Williams is worse than my maiden name of Clarke! I'll see what I can find.... Fee --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Caliandris <caliandris@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi there Anne, > It will help a lot if you can provide us with all the information you > have. For example, you say that you have discovered that your great > grandmother is on the 1871 census as Hannah William, (good catch btw) > but not why you believe this to be your grandmother? Is it just the > name and place, notwithstanding the faulty ancestry transcription? > Are the entries for 1881 or 1861 for that family/location are any > help? Did you already have information about brothers and sisters? On > the 1881 census for Wales, I can find three Hannah Williams, born in > Llanstephan between 1867-1869, and no Harriet Williams born in > Llanstephan specifically, although there are a couple who just have > Carmarthenshire as their birthplace. One assumes that as she is your > great grandma, she survived past the > 1881 census! Do you already have an 1881 entry for her? > > I'm thinking you must have other, circumstantial evidence that lead > you to think that this entry is right, but I am wondering what it is? > If I am researching a family and find evidence which links them to a > census entry, the first thing I would do would be to try to go back in > time to the previous census. If you are sure this entry is correct, > I'd be following the trail of the mother, Mary, in the first instance, > I think. > > You mention a baptism of Mary Ann - actually on the Carmarthenshire > FHS site, I can find two at Llanstephan, one in 1866, Mary Ann > Williams, daughter of Edwin and Mary, and one in 1867, Mary Ann > Williams, daughter of William and Mary, which is the one you referred > to. I'm wondering if there is a reason why you have rejected one and > decided on the other, as there is a Mary as the mother for both? > > I'll do my best to help if I can. I'm pretty good on census trails, > and so with any extra information you can give, will have a look at > them for you. To be able to go forward and back in time it would help > to know her married name and husband, if you don't mind divulging it. > bws > Fee > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, marlholes@aol.com <marlholes@aol.com> > wrote: > > I wonder if anyone could help - I am tying to find information > > on my great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( > > Llanstephan) who appears > > on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The > entry > > shows her > > living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary > (Head - > > Tailor's Wife - born > > in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John > Danish William > > - I think this > > should be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, > Harriet > > is aged one. > > I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann Williams being christened > > in 1868 at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary > and > > his occupation was > > a tailor. Where can I find out more? > > This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census for Llanstephan - on > > page 1 is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel and the > > mother is Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? > > I seem to be up against a brick wall - Please could someone > > help me. > > Thanks > > Anne > > > > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Anne I have indexed Llanstephan baptisms from 1813-1886 ....I have looked for any Williams with the occupation of a tailor...there are two of them....both with a wife Mary 1876 17th July William Daniel Williams, son of David and Mary (aged 4 years), Llanstephan, tailor 1878 7th November Evan Thomas Williams, son David and Mary, Rose Cottage, tailor 1867 24th November Mary Anne Williams, dau William and Mary, Llanstephan, Tailor Harriet was not baptised there.....when did Mary the mother arrive in Llanstephan, do you know? Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marlholes@aol.com Sent: 12 January 2010 16:02 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Williams 1871 - Llanstephan Hi I wonder if anyone could help - I am tying to find information on my great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( Llanstephan) who appears on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The entry shows her living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary (Head - Tailor's Wife - born in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John Danish William - I think this should be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, Harriet is aged one. I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann Williams being christened in 1868 at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary and his occupation was a tailor. Where can I find out more? This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census for Llanstephan - on page 1 is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel and the mother is Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? I seem to be up against a brick wall - Please could someone help me. Thanks Anne http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Pauline Thanks for your help. I do not know when Mary arrived in Llanstephan - all I know about her I have taken from the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census which all state she was born in Darlaston Staffordshire in 1847. It has taken me ages to find her on the 1871 census in Llanstephan due to transcription error re. Williams / William on ancestry as I did not know her first name! I found her in Llanstephan on 1871 census after reading through cesus and knowing that my great grandmother Harriet had been adamant that she had been born in Llanstephan - she has put this fact on 1901 census. Also Harriet's sister Mary Ann appears on 1871 census and Mary(mother) on 1871 census was born in Darlaston so I was pretty sure I had the right family. I wondered if Mary had gone to Llanstephan in service and got married there, maybe she is on the wedding registers? I do not know her maiden name, all I know is that she came to Burnley with her children to find work - some say she left some children in Wales - ? John Daniel (no one knew of his existence until entry on 1871 census for Llanstephan). I do not know if Mr Williams came with her to Burnley, all I have found is that on 1881 census she had a son William H Williams born abt. 1874 who we think may have been called William Herbert as he was known as Bertie Williams and my great grandmother Harriet had a son Herbert whom she named after her brother. The census states William H was born in Burnley - but this may not be correct as on one of the later census returns, older members of the family are recorded as being born in Burnley - but when they have left home and completed the census in their own right they have put Llanstephan and/or Monmouth down. I think Mary lived in Llanstephan, had 3 of her children there and then moved to Monmouthshire and later Burnley. She married for a second time in Burnley in 1878 and her daughter Amea was born in that year - she is recorded as being a Williams and also a Clark - the surname of her second husband - so who her father was Mr Williams or Thomas Henry Clark(husband 2) I am not sure. She then had another son Thomas b.1880 who WAS born in Burnley and was from the 2nd marriage. Thanks for your help so far any help is appreciated Anne
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I've just realised you have linked the baptism to the census due to the father's profession - it takes a while to get up to speed with another person's research. The parish records for Llanstephan on the Carmarthenshie FHS unhelpfully stop at 1837, and searching the indexes, it seems Williams is worse than my maiden name of Clarke! I'll see what I can find.... Fee --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Caliandris <caliandris@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi there Anne, > It will help a lot if you can provide us with all the > information you have. For example, you say that you > have discovered that your great grandmother is on the 1871 > census as Hannah William, (good catch btw) but not why you > believe this to be your grandmother? Is it just the > name and place, notwithstanding the faulty ancestry > transcription? Are the entries for 1881 or 1861 for > that family/location are any help? Did you already have > information about brothers and sisters? On the 1881 census > for Wales, I can find three Hannah Williams, born in > Llanstephan between 1867-1869, and no Harriet Williams born > in Llanstephan specifically, although there are a couple who > just have Carmarthenshire as their birthplace. One assumes > that as she is your great grandma, she survived past the > 1881 census! Do you already have an 1881 entry for her? > > I'm thinking you must have other, circumstantial evidence > that lead you to think that this entry is right, but I am > wondering what it is? If I am researching a family and > find evidence which links them to a census entry, the first > thing I would do would be to try to go back in time to the > previous census. If you are sure this entry is > correct, I'd be following the trail of the mother, Mary, in > the first instance, I think. > > You mention a baptism of Mary Ann - actually on the > Carmarthenshire FHS site, I can find two at Llanstephan, one > in 1866, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of Edwin and Mary, and > one in 1867, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of William and > Mary, which is the one you referred to. I'm wondering > if there is a reason why you have rejected one and decided > on the other, as there is a Mary as the mother for both? > > I'll do my best to help if I can. I'm pretty good on > census trails, and so with any extra information you can > give, will have a look at them for you. To be able to go > forward and back in time it would help to know her married > name and husband, if you don't mind divulging it. > bws > Fee > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, marlholes@aol.com > <marlholes@aol.com> > wrote: > > I wonder if anyone could help - I am > > tying to find information on my > > great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( > > Llanstephan) who appears > > on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The > entry > > shows her > > living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary > (Head - > > Tailor's Wife - born > > in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John > Danish William > > - I think this > > should be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, > Harriet > > is aged one. > > I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann > > Williams being christened in 1868 > > at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary > and > > his occupation was > > a tailor. Where can I find out more? > > This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census > > for Llanstephan - on page 1 > > is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel > > and the mother is > > Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? > > I seem to be up against a brick > > wall - Please could someone help me. > > Thanks > > Anne > > > > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
Hi there Anne, It will help a lot if you can provide us with all the information you have. For example, you say that you have discovered that your great grandmother is on the 1871 census as Hannah William, (good catch btw) but not why you believe this to be your grandmother? Is it just the name and place, notwithstanding the faulty ancestry transcription? Are the entries for 1881 or 1861 for that family/location are any help? Did you already have information about brothers and sisters? On the 1881 census for Wales, I can find three Hannah Williams, born in Llanstephan between 1867-1869, and no Harriet Williams born in Llanstephan specifically, although there are a couple who just have Carmarthenshire as their birthplace. One assumes that as she is your great grandma, she survived past the 1881 census! Do you already have an 1881 entry for her? I'm thinking you must have other, circumstantial evidence that lead you to think that this entry is right, but I am wondering what it is? If I am researching a family and find evidence which links them to a census entry, the first thing I would do would be to try to go back in time to the previous census. If you are sure this entry is correct, I'd be following the trail of the mother, Mary, in the first instance, I think. You mention a baptism of Mary Ann - actually on the Carmarthenshire FHS site, I can find two at Llanstephan, one in 1866, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of Edwin and Mary, and one in 1867, Mary Ann Williams, daughter of William and Mary, which is the one you referred to. I'm wondering if there is a reason why you have rejected one and decided on the other, as there is a Mary as the mother for both? I'll do my best to help if I can. I'm pretty good on census trails, and so with any extra information you can give, will have a look at them for you. To be able to go forward and back in time it would help to know her married name and husband, if you don't mind divulging it. bws Fee --- On Tue, 12/1/10, marlholes@aol.com <marlholes@aol.com> wrote: > I wonder if anyone could help - I am > tying to find information on my > great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( > Llanstephan) who appears > on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The entry > shows her > living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary (Head - > Tailor's Wife - born > in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John Danish William > - I think this > should be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, Harriet > is aged one. > I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann > Williams being christened in 1868 > at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary and > his occupation was > a tailor. Where can I find out more? > This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census > for Llanstephan - on page 1 > is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel > and the mother is > Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? > I seem to be up against a brick > wall - Please could someone help me. > Thanks > Anne
Hi I did not put 1881 census details on as by this time the family had moved to Burnley in Lancashire and Mary had remarried a Thomas Henry Clark. The 1881 census gives the following information: 44 Tentre Street Burnley Thomas Henry Clark (Head) -- 29 - General Labourer - born in Cornwall Mary 34 - born in Darlaston, Staffordshire Mary A 13 born Carmarthenshire - Wales Harriet 10 born Monmouthshire, although she herself put on 1901 census Llanstephan! Emily 9 born Monmouthshire William H 7 born Burnley Amea 3 born Burnley Thomas Clark 1 born Burnley Mary and Thomas were married in Burnley in 1878 - so Amea could be a Williams or a Clark and is refered to as Williams in 1881 and Clark in 1891. The 1901 census Mary Ann states she was born in Llanstephan - hope this helps! Anne
Hi I wonder if anyone could help - I am tying to find information on my great grandmother Harriet Williams born abt. 1869 ( Llanstephan) who appears on the 1871 census on ancestry as Hannah William! The entry shows her living at Brook in Llanstephan with her mother Mary (Head - Tailor's Wife - born in Darlaston Staffs age 24), a brother John Danish William - I think this should be John Daniel and a sister Mary Ann, Harriet is aged one. I have seen a reference to a Mary Ann Williams being christened in 1868 at Llanstephan - her parents were William and Mary and his occupation was a tailor. Where can I find out more? This entry is on page 2 of the 1871 census for Llanstephan - on page 1 is another family of Williams - the father is Daniel and the mother is Harriet - I wondered if these could be grandparents? I seem to be up against a brick wall - Please could someone help me. Thanks Anne
Hi Sian Everything received thanks again really appreciated.......are you sending me mail and I have not replied, as I have not had any from you......as you may know my computer went down and I lost all my contacts.....just getting used to a new system, especially with emails ......wonder if this can be the problem....could you resend to either ukgenealogy@onvol.net or Pauline@paulinejames.com Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and New Year...... Regards Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sian Jones Sent: 11 January 2010 16:39 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Quiet List Hi Pauline, I don't know if my direct emails are not getting through, but I hope that your sister received my cheque in October when I was home. Please let me know if there was a problem and I can resend from here. Cheers Sian http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message