I have ancestors who were married in Adulam, lived in Dafen and were buried in Bryn. Susan On Jan 23, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Elwyn Schreuder wrote: > Yes I did find their marriage record. They were married at Adulam. As they > left Felinfoel and went to live in Dafen I presume that they will be buried > there, as I could not find them on the Adulam CDrom. > > Elwyn. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens Pauline > Verzonden: zaterdag 23 januari 2010 10:16 > Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] Dafen cemetry > > Hi Elwyn > > Sorry I do not have any records of Dafen Church....... > > Margaret Roberts does have a husband then.....namely William Rees..Did you > ever find the marriage Elwyn? > > Hope you are well > Pauline > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elwyn Schreuder > Sent: 22 January 2010 22:12 > To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CMN-L] Dafen cemetry > > Hello Pauline, > > > > Have you got entries for death ( and photo's of headstones) re to Dafen > Church near Felinfoel. > > I am looking for William Rees, who died 1903, at 5 Dafen Row. Possibly > husband of my Margaret Roberts. > > > > Elwyn. > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 8.5.432 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2637 - datum van uitgifte: 01/22/10 > 19:33:00 > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

sorry susan my reply slipped out before i finished i do not think they were non-conformists i did come up with a GRO Death on Mary E. Davies in Llanelly in 1930 with matching age, but this did not come up in the carmarthenshire index. for david l. i came up with 1926 but i cannot be certain at this stage if they are the people concerned. thanks mervyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Owen" <smtowen@gmail.com> To: <carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials > Mervyn, I have many photos of gravestones in Bryn Chapel on the outskirts > of Llanelli. I also have some of Trinity near Felinfoel and a few at > Capel Neweydd. I have a link to fin burials in Box if you'd like it I can > look it up. Susan > On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Pauline wrote: > >> Hi Mervyn >> >> Have you tried both St Pauls and St Elli under Llanelly parish, not the >> master burials? Do you know if they were of the parish church or >> non-conformists? If non-conformists they could be in Box Cemetary.... >> >> Let me know >> Thanks Pauline >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Lewis Luz >> Sent: 16 January 2010 17:45 >> To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials >> >> could any one give me advice on tracing turn of last century llanelly >> burials >> - i got nowhere with ancestry for the exact gro death year and quarter >> and >> the carmarthenshire master burials index on ukgenealogy did not help >> either >> - what is know is that my grandmothers parents are in the 1911 census in >> llanelly - and prob died either that year or a couple after that i.e >> david >> lloyd davies b.1863 (Carmarthen) and his wife mary ellen davies b 1863 >> (Poplar). >> they lived in pottery place, llanelly 1911, which church burial index >> would >> they be in? >> any advice welcome as i have tried all the above mervyn >> >> >> http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info >> http://www.free-genealogy-online.info >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info >> Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... >> >> >> carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info >> http://www.free-genealogy-online.info >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info >> Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... >> >> >> carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

dear susan thank you for your offer, i do not think they were non-conformist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Owen" <smtowen@gmail.com> To: <carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials > Mervyn, I have many photos of gravestones in Bryn Chapel on the outskirts > of Llanelli. I also have some of Trinity near Felinfoel and a few at > Capel Neweydd. I have a link to fin burials in Box if you'd like it I can > look it up. Susan > On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Pauline wrote: > >> Hi Mervyn >> >> Have you tried both St Pauls and St Elli under Llanelly parish, not the >> master burials? Do you know if they were of the parish church or >> non-conformists? If non-conformists they could be in Box Cemetary.... >> >> Let me know >> Thanks Pauline >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Lewis Luz >> Sent: 16 January 2010 17:45 >> To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials >> >> could any one give me advice on tracing turn of last century llanelly >> burials >> - i got nowhere with ancestry for the exact gro death year and quarter >> and >> the carmarthenshire master burials index on ukgenealogy did not help >> either >> - what is know is that my grandmothers parents are in the 1911 census in >> llanelly - and prob died either that year or a couple after that i.e >> david >> lloyd davies b.1863 (Carmarthen) and his wife mary ellen davies b 1863 >> (Poplar). >> they lived in pottery place, llanelly 1911, which church burial index >> would >> they be in? >> any advice welcome as i have tried all the above mervyn >> >> >> http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info >> http://www.free-genealogy-online.info >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info >> Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... >> >> >> carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info >> http://www.free-genealogy-online.info >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info >> Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... >> >> >> carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all Some of you may have seen a letter in the Feb edition of Family Tree magazine from someone trying to find someone linked to a welsh bible that he has had or some time but it is not linked to his family and he would like to pass it on to the right people. He has sent me a scan o the page which was partially obscured in the picture in the magazine and I think I have identified the family. One of the written entries was for a grandchild Jackie who died aged 5 on Feb 16 1927 and was buried in Box cemetery. That gave me the clue that linked possibly to Llanelly and I think the family is the one shown in 1911 as 3 Delabeche St Llanelly DAVIES, David Head Married 39 Pit Helper In Steel Work Carmarthen Pencarreg DAVIES, Eleanor Wife Married 37 Carmarthen Llanllwni DAVIES, Mary Jane Daughter Single 17 Dressmaker Carmarthen Llanllwni DAVIES, David Thomas Son 14 Grocer Boy Carmarthen Llanelly Married 18 years 2 children both living. All four of these are mentioned in the bible. The family is also in Delabeche St in the 1901 census. I think I found a possible marriage that points to the wife as Eleanor Jones born Llanllwni. Do any of you have a link to this family at all? Cheers Pat -- pat

Hi, I did not see the Family Tree magazine with this. Do you know if there are any older family members listed or other surnames? Thanks! Mona ________________________________ From: pat <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: carmarthenshire-fhs@rootsweb.com Cc: CARMARTHENSHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 11:09:58 AM Subject: [CMN-L] davies family in LLanelly Hello all Some of you may have seen a letter in the Feb edition of Family Tree magazine from someone trying to find someone linked to a welsh bible that he has had or some time but it is not linked to his family and he would like to pass it on to the right people. He has sent me a scan o the page which was partially obscured in the picture in the magazine and I think I have identified the family. One of the written entries was for a grandchild Jackie who died aged 5 on Feb 16 1927 and was buried in Box cemetery. That gave me the clue that linked possibly to Llanelly and I think the family is the one shown in 1911 as 3 Delabeche St Llanelly DAVIES, David Head Married 39 Pit Helper In Steel Work Carmarthen Pencarreg DAVIES, Eleanor Wife Married 37 Carmarthen Llanllwni DAVIES, Mary Jane Daughter Single 17 Dressmaker Carmarthen Llanllwni DAVIES, David Thomas Son 14 Grocer Boy Carmarthen Llanelly Married 18 years 2 children both living. All four of these are mentioned in the bible. The family is also in Delabeche St in the 1901 census. I think I found a possible marriage that points to the wife as Eleanor Jones born Llanllwni. Do any of you have a link to this family at all? Cheers Pat -- pat http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes I did find their marriage record. They were married at Adulam. As they left Felinfoel and went to live in Dafen I presume that they will be buried there, as I could not find them on the Adulam CDrom. Elwyn. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens Pauline Verzonden: zaterdag 23 januari 2010 10:16 Aan: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] Dafen cemetry Hi Elwyn Sorry I do not have any records of Dafen Church....... Margaret Roberts does have a husband then.....namely William Rees..Did you ever find the marriage Elwyn? Hope you are well Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elwyn Schreuder Sent: 22 January 2010 22:12 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CMN-L] Dafen cemetry Hello Pauline, Have you got entries for death ( and photo's of headstones) re to Dafen Church near Felinfoel. I am looking for William Rees, who died 1903, at 5 Dafen Row. Possibly husband of my Margaret Roberts. Elwyn. http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.432 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2637 - datum van uitgifte: 01/22/10 19:33:00

Hi Peter I too have looked in 1881 for either Roger Jones and cannot see them.......How do you know that Roger Jones senior was born prior to 1852.....do you have him in any census at all, maybe the 1871? Where does it give his place of birth in the census returns that you have..... I have looked for a baptism in Llandebie parish church, but not one for a Roger Jones... Let me know Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: 22 January 2010 16:24 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CMN-L] Roger Jones Hi I wonder if someone can help me with my brick wall. I have taken my maternal grandfather back to 1690 but I just can't seem to make much headway with my paternal grandfather. His name is Roger JONES and when he married my Grandmother, Elizabeth LEWIS of Brynamman on 29 May 1892 in Llandebie, he was a Collier and allegedly aged 20 (ie born c1872). I say allegedly because whilst this ties in fairly well with the 1901 (aged 27) and very well with the 1911 (aged 39 born in the Rhondda, Glamorgan) I have not been able to find a suitable Roger born in Wales c1872? Nor have I been able to locate him on either the 1881 or the 1891. Strangely, I can't find any trace of his father either. He was also called Roger JONES and would have been born sometime before 1852. I have a note of my Grandfather's siblings from a deceased family member's memory but I know nothing more about them other than the fact that Sarah Jane JONES married a James POWELL. The other siblings are Rees and Morgan JONES. Roger JONES (c1872) was wounded in WW1 and he was left with a shaking arm and head as a result. He lived with his wife Elizabeth at 32 Harold St Tirydial, Ammanford until he died around about 1934. I can remember going to that house in the 1940's and being given some of the home made toffee that my grandmother always seemed to have available for us children. Grandmother Elizabeth was well known up and down the Valley for the home made ointments she used to sell. Her most famous one being the burn ointment she sold to the Tinplate and Iron Workers. Hence she was known as Mrs Jones Yr Eli, or Mrs Jones the Ointment. If anyone else knows about or is researching this family I would very much appreciate finding out something more about these grandparents. Peter Jones - now living in Hornchurch Essex http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elwyn Sorry I do not have any records of Dafen Church....... Margaret Roberts does have a husband then.....namely William Rees..Did you ever find the marriage Elwyn? Hope you are well Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elwyn Schreuder Sent: 22 January 2010 22:12 To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CMN-L] Dafen cemetry Hello Pauline, Have you got entries for death ( and photo's of headstones) re to Dafen Church near Felinfoel. I am looking for William Rees, who died 1903, at 5 Dafen Row. Possibly husband of my Margaret Roberts. Elwyn. http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fee Thanks for this......registration was not law until 1874 for births or deaths...thus many went through the net. Not all children were baptised either, as for some it was either baptising the child or being able to have bread on the table..normally the bread won.. Okay, its a deal if you collect ALL the Jones's let me know as I have given up on mine.......I have Hannah Jones baptised somewhere around 1826-1828 father David !!!! Probably in Llanpumpsaint....any connections to yours?? I also have Davies from Conwil Elved.....I have only gone back to Daniel Davies born 1806 Conwil Elved but lost him after 1851, I think these dropped off the face of the earth or are buried in fields in Carmarthenshire somewhere.......these too were non-conformists, whom are very difficult to trace...he ended up in St Peters Carmarthen, his son Thomas Davies(b.1828) my great gt. grandfather moved to Burry Port (Pembrey parish) where he and his family are buried. Thanks for your help, if you can think of anything let us know..... Pauline -----Original Message----- From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caliandris Sent: 22 January 2010 17:49 To: peterjones550@btinternet.com; carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Roger Jones I can't offer any specific help, but I can offer a couple of suggestions. I have a few of my Hughes family from Carmarthen that don't seem to be in the official record anywhere. I have been working on the assumption that they may have been Methodists or some other form of non-conformists, and that therefore they won't have been baptised in the Church of England. For my Hughes family it is extraordinary that they weren't in the birth registers from 1837, but I believe that initially it was the responsibility of the Registrar to ensure that births were registered and not the parents. What I am assuming is that there was a very close tie-up between the baptisms in the church and the names registered... maybe babies who were from Methodist families were sometimes missing from the official record too? I'm hoping that someone with better knowledge than me about non conformists in Wales in the 19th century may read this post or yours and comment. I know there are methodist records in various places. The other possibility which has come up again and again in my wider family is that the children were sometimes baptised in batches... so a child born in 1872 might not turn up in the records for baptisms until five or even ten years later. I think that's more common in the early part of the 19th century, when the charges went up for baptism for a while, but certainly I have several groups of children being baptised whethe youngest was a month old but the eldest was anywhere from four to twelve years old. If you know where your ancestors were from the census, it would be worth looking all around the dates of birth for siblings for dates of baptisms. I have some Jones as well as Hughes in my family in Carmarthen, but tracing them is the very devil. I've got to the point where I feel like recording all the Jones's in Carmarthen and eliminating them from my enquiries one by one, lol. bws Fee --- On Fri, 22/1/10, Peter Jones <peterjones550@btinternet.com> wrote:> Hi > I wonder if someone can help me with my brick wall. I have taken my > maternal grandfather back to 1690 but I just can't seem to make much > headway with my paternal grandfather. > > His name is Roger JONES and when he married my Grandmother, Elizabeth > LEWIS of Brynamman on 29 May 1892 in Llandebie, he was a Collier and > allegedly aged 20 (ie born c1872). > > I say allegedly because whilst this ties in fairly well with the 1901 > (aged > 27) and very well with the 1911 (aged 39 born in the Rhondda, > Glamorgan) I have not been able to find a suitable Roger born in Wales > c1872? Nor have I been able to locate him on either the 1881 or the > 1891. > > Strangely, I can't find any trace of his father either. He was also > called Roger JONES and would have been born sometime before 1852. > > I have a note of my Grandfather's siblings from a deceased family > member's memory but I know nothing more about them other than the fact > that Sarah Jane JONES married a James POWELL. The other siblings are  > Rees and Morgan JONES. > > Roger JONES (c1872) was wounded in WW1 and he was left with a shaking > arm and head as a result. He lived with his wife Elizabeth at > 32 Harold St > Tirydial, Ammanford until he died around about 1934. I can remember > going to that house in the 1940's and being given some of the home > made toffee that my grandmother always seemed to have available for us > children. > > Grandmother Elizabeth was well known up and down the Valley for the > home made ointments she used to sell. Her most famous one being the > burn ointment she sold to the Tinplate and Iron Workers. Hence she was > known as Mrs Jones Yr Eli, or Mrs Jones the Ointment. > > If anyone else knows about or is researching this family I would very > much appreciate finding out something more about these grandparents. > > Peter Jones - now living in Hornchurch Essex > > > > > > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info http://www.free-genealogy-online.info http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Pauline, Have you got entries for death ( and photo's of headstones) re to Dafen Church near Felinfoel. I am looking for William Rees, who died 1903, at 5 Dafen Row. Possibly husband of my Margaret Roberts. Elwyn.

I can't offer any specific help, but I can offer a couple of suggestions. I have a few of my Hughes family from Carmarthen that don't seem to be in the official record anywhere. I have been working on the assumption that they may have been Methodists or some other form of non-conformists, and that therefore they won't have been baptised in the Church of England. For my Hughes family it is extraordinary that they weren't in the birth registers from 1837, but I believe that initially it was the responsibility of the Registrar to ensure that births were registered and not the parents. What I am assuming is that there was a very close tie-up between the baptisms in the church and the names registered... maybe babies who were from Methodist families were sometimes missing from the official record too? I'm hoping that someone with better knowledge than me about non conformists in Wales in the 19th century may read this post or yours and comment. I know there are methodist records in various places. The other possibility which has come up again and again in my wider family is that the children were sometimes baptised in batches... so a child born in 1872 might not turn up in the records for baptisms until five or even ten years later. I think that's more common in the early part of the 19th century, when the charges went up for baptism for a while, but certainly I have several groups of children being baptised whethe youngest was a month old but the eldest was anywhere from four to twelve years old. If you know where your ancestors were from the census, it would be worth looking all around the dates of birth for siblings for dates of baptisms. I have some Jones as well as Hughes in my family in Carmarthen, but tracing them is the very devil. I've got to the point where I feel like recording all the Jones's in Carmarthen and eliminating them from my enquiries one by one, lol. bws Fee --- On Fri, 22/1/10, Peter Jones <peterjones550@btinternet.com> wrote:> Hi > I wonder if someone can help me with my brick wall. I have > taken my maternal > grandfather back to 1690 but I just can't seem to make much > headway with my > paternal grandfather. > > His name is Roger JONES and when he married my Grandmother, > Elizabeth LEWIS > of Brynamman on 29 May 1892 in Llandebie, he was a Collier > and allegedly > aged 20 (ie born c1872). > > I say allegedly because whilst this ties in fairly well > with the 1901 (aged > 27) and very well with the 1911 (aged 39 born in the > Rhondda, Glamorgan) I > have not been able to find a suitable Roger born in Wales > c1872? Nor have I > been able to locate him on either the 1881 or the 1891. > > Strangely, I can't find any trace of his father either. He > was also called > Roger JONES and would have been born sometime before 1852. > > I have a note of my Grandfather's siblings from a deceased > family member's > memory but I know nothing more about them other than the > fact that Sarah > Jane JONES married a James POWELL. The other siblings > are  Rees and Morgan > JONES. > > Roger JONES (c1872) was wounded in WW1 and he was left with > a shaking arm > and head as a result. He lived with his wife Elizabeth at > 32 Harold St > Tirydial, Ammanford until he died around about 1934. I can > remember going to > that house in the 1940's and being given some of the home > made toffee that > my grandmother always seemed to have available for us > children. > > Grandmother Elizabeth was well known up and down the Valley > for the home > made ointments she used to sell. Her most famous one being > the burn ointment > she sold to the Tinplate and Iron Workers. Hence she was > known as Mrs Jones > Yr Eli, or Mrs Jones the Ointment. > > If anyone else knows about or is researching this family I > would very much > appreciate finding out something more about these > grandparents. > > Peter Jones - now living in Hornchurch Essex > > > > > > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi I wonder if someone can help me with my brick wall. I have taken my maternal grandfather back to 1690 but I just can't seem to make much headway with my paternal grandfather. His name is Roger JONES and when he married my Grandmother, Elizabeth LEWIS of Brynamman on 29 May 1892 in Llandebie, he was a Collier and allegedly aged 20 (ie born c1872). I say allegedly because whilst this ties in fairly well with the 1901 (aged 27) and very well with the 1911 (aged 39 born in the Rhondda, Glamorgan) I have not been able to find a suitable Roger born in Wales c1872? Nor have I been able to locate him on either the 1881 or the 1891. Strangely, I can't find any trace of his father either. He was also called Roger JONES and would have been born sometime before 1852. I have a note of my Grandfather's siblings from a deceased family member's memory but I know nothing more about them other than the fact that Sarah Jane JONES married a James POWELL. The other siblings are Rees and Morgan JONES. Roger JONES (c1872) was wounded in WW1 and he was left with a shaking arm and head as a result. He lived with his wife Elizabeth at 32 Harold St Tirydial, Ammanford until he died around about 1934. I can remember going to that house in the 1940's and being given some of the home made toffee that my grandmother always seemed to have available for us children. Grandmother Elizabeth was well known up and down the Valley for the home made ointments she used to sell. Her most famous one being the burn ointment she sold to the Tinplate and Iron Workers. Hence she was known as Mrs Jones Yr Eli, or Mrs Jones the Ointment. If anyone else knows about or is researching this family I would very much appreciate finding out something more about these grandparents. Peter Jones - now living in Hornchurch Essex

Mervyn, I have many photos of gravestones in Bryn Chapel on the outskirts of Llanelli. I also have some of Trinity near Felinfoel and a few at Capel Neweydd. I have a link to fin burials in Box if you'd like it I can look it up. Susan On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Pauline wrote: > Hi Mervyn > > Have you tried both St Pauls and St Elli under Llanelly parish, not the > master burials? Do you know if they were of the parish church or > non-conformists? If non-conformists they could be in Box Cemetary.... > > Let me know > Thanks Pauline > > > -----Original Message----- > From: carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Lewis Luz > Sent: 16 January 2010 17:45 > To: carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CMN-L] ilRe: tracing llanelly burials > > could any one give me advice on tracing turn of last century llanelly > burials > - i got nowhere with ancestry for the exact gro death year and quarter and > the carmarthenshire master burials index on ukgenealogy did not help either > - what is know is that my grandmothers parents are in the 1911 census in > llanelly - and prob died either that year or a couple after that i.e david > lloyd davies b.1863 (Carmarthen) and his wife mary ellen davies b 1863 > (Poplar). > they lived in pottery place, llanelly 1911, which church burial index would > they be in? > any advice welcome as i have tried all the above mervyn > > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > http://www.DyfedFreeGen.info > http://www.free-genealogy-online.info > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.info > Welcome to Carmarthenshire Mailing List......... > > > carmarthenshire@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARMARTHENSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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