Hi Helen - yes please an age as well as prompted by Pauline!!!!!!!!!!! Diana

Hello Helen - yes if you do have the address for 1851 that may help. There are usually alot of Davies' around!! Diana

Diana, Thank you for this. On 1851, living at Tynycoed, Conwil Caio. Benjamin Davies, 31, farmer, son-in-law, Pencarreg Mary Davies, wife, 32, caio Mary Davies, 6, daughter, caio Margaret Davies, 4, daughter, caio Elizabeth Davies, 2, daughter, caio Head of family : Mary Jones, married, farmer's wife, caio On 1871, living at Glandare, Caio, Mary Davies, head, 23, caio Elizabeth Davies, daugher, unmarried, 23 Thomas Davies, grandchild, 3 Mary Ann Davies, grandchild 3 Hope this helps. Thank you for your help Regards Helen

Hello Pauline and others, can you help please??? My problem isnt really anything to do with Carmarthen but I thought someone might be able to give me an idea for future searches. What I have is my gggrandfather Henry Delmer born 1827 was a soldier in 1854 when his son George was born in Sunning Dale, Berkshire. The address on his marriage cert in 1850 was the Barracks Newport. I cant find him on any census returns, his son George pops up in durham in 1881 census and his father is down as a miner on this marriage cert in 1880. I'm assuming that the transcriptions could have been incorrect early on, is there any way I can find which regiment was at the Newport Barracks in 1850. regards Marie

Hello Listers, I am reposting this message because of on-going difficulties getting my messages to the List. I am now using MS Outlook which I am confident enables me to send messages in "Plain Text" - having found that "IncrediMail" seems incapable of this function. Bill Williams hit a note with me when he suggested a few weeks ago that some listers may have struck a brick wall with their research. I am such a person having tried for years from afar ("down under NZ") to prove details of my G.Grandfather John WILLIAMS' birth. I have established from 1881, 91 and 1901 censuses that John was living with his wife Hannah (nee ISAACS - b.Ilston, Swansea, 1854) and expanding family in Marylebone, Middlesex. John and Hannah had 8 children including my Grandfather Percy b. 1888. In the first 2 censuses, John's place of birth is shown as Llandudno which sent me off on a wild goose chase looking for his birth in Caernarfonshire. Then, when the 1901 was released...bingo....his POB had changed to "Wales - Llandilo Carm" - the "breakthrough" I had been hoping for. Chance would be a fine thing however as, 4 years later, I am still no further ahead. I have original census copies not transcripts and John's age was given as 48 in the 1901. I have a copy of John's marriage certificate dated 18 May 1879 showing his occupation as "Joiner" and his father's name as David with occupation "Carpenter". The marriage occured in the Trinity Church, Marylebone. No further clues on the marriage cert - eg no mother's name and witness names of no help. There is also the obvious question of how John met up with Hannah Isaacs who was born in Ilston and was still living there in the 1871 census. The Llandilo "discovery" provided a possible answer. I have concluded that Hannah must have met John in Swansea/South Wales and moved to London some time between 1871 and 1879. Ironically, I have found it much easier to trace Hannah's family from their original location in Wiltshire and at the same time discovered what "cordwainers" and "gloverers" were. There was also a hazy family story that my father (10) and his brother (5) were sent to a boarding school in Llandovery after the premature death of their mother in 1920 - possible family connections in the area perhaps? This has just been confirmed as fact by the archivist at Llandovery College. If any kind lister out there can help me track down my elusive John Williams with a father named David, a carpenter, I would be eternally grateful. Again, my grateful thanks to Pat for her valuable assistance and to Eirwyn for his ideas and suggestions and I would welcome any other assistance or advice Cmn listers may be able to offer. Thanks & Best wishes Glyn Auckland NZ

Dear Diana, Would you be willing to do a look up for me? That's very kind of you. The family in question is...... Benjamin Davies (head), wife (Mary Davies), daughters (may or may not be there) Mary, Margaret, Elizabeth (may be other grandchildren present). Not sure where they were living then, but if you want addresses for 1851 and 1881 I can provide, if it helps. I know Benjamin was from Pencarreg and Mary and the others from Caio. Many thanks Helen

Thank you for info Elsie

I too will be interested to see the answer to Helen's question. Thanks. Glyn Auckland, NZ From: HMC001@aol.com Date: 08/17/05 08:30:11 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] 1861 Carmarthenshire I seem to remember reading somewhere that census returns for 1861 Wales were not available. However, I know seem to remember reading in a reply from somewhere that Census return for 1861 Carmarthenshire is available. Can SKS please either do a lookup for me or point me in the right direction to find 1861 Census online. Many thanks. Helen

I forgot to say that you can also get the 1861 census at www.1837online.com and you can pay by credit card for that. Diana

I have 1861 census of England and Wales with ancestry.com. I am very happy to do any look ups. Diana

Hello Helen, 1861 is now on Ancestry.com Elsie L Isaac Bethlehem, PA USA Glamorgan Project Coordinator Let's get the UK Census online to view for Free! http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgancensus/ From: HMC001@aol.com Reply-To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] 1861 Carmarthenshire Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:29:14 EDT I seem to remember reading somewhere that census returns for 1861 Wales were not available. However, I know seem to remember reading in a reply from somewhere that Census return for 1861 Carmarthenshire is available. Can SKS please either do a lookup for me or point me in the right direction to find 1861 Census online. Many thanks. Helen ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research questions & Quiries. http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

I seem to remember reading somewhere that census returns for 1861 Wales were not available. However, I know seem to remember reading in a reply from somewhere that Census return for 1861 Carmarthenshire is available. Can SKS please either do a lookup for me or point me in the right direction to find 1861 Census online. Many thanks. Helen

Hello again Pauline - Do you know where Pentre villabge Bebyr or Alt Dene. I am having a ball at the moment having found some IGI proper film on family search complete with batch numbers etc. Also I am sorry to ask you but do you have an 1851 census for Cwmafon Glam. James Thomas who married Jane William in1833 (also on of the collection of witnesses on William marriages) seems to have died there in 1855. Thanks Diana

Thanks Pauline - I must have mislaid it before - another one to add to the pot. This was the one with the mother living with them in 1861 named Jane William. Diana

Hi Diana, I thought I did send it either to you direct or here.....not sure which......I remember because of David Desy as I had to go into the actual CD image....... Thomas Samuel was a copperman born in Llanon, his wife Margaret was born in Llanelly so was dau Jane.....the visitor David Desy 25 could not read what his occupation was he was born Llanarthney.... hope this helps.......regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] Thomas Samuel > Morning Pauline - I have been collating all the information I now have on > my William family but I cannot find the full transcription of > > 46 Stradley Hill 1I Pembrey 3 Pembrey > > Thomas Samuel head > Margaret Samuel wife > Jane Samuel daughter > > thanks > Diana > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi Bill Do you mean can you purchase a death certificate for him, if so, yes, it should be in Carmarthen Registry Office Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk giving you the email address as you can contact them directly. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <Taffywilliam@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Re:Carm. Death Record > Wm.Williams, b. ca 1801 lived out his life in LlanfairarBryn. Died of > natural causes May 1847. Any way to secure a death record on this? > Thanks..Bill > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Hello Pat, Thank you for your quick response to my inquiry. Yes, in the census it does say, "Glamorgan", however, perhaps this is an error. Since there is a Llanelli located in the Mon/Bre area, focusing our search in this area may provide us with more positive information. Any information will be more appreciated. Regards, Jane in Cal. P.S. Just noticed the census lists "Llanethly" - would this be the same place or a different one? Jane

Morning Pauline - I have been collating all the information I now have on my William family but I cannot find the full transcription of 46 Stradley Hill 1I Pembrey 3 Pembrey Thomas Samuel head Margaret Samuel wife Jane Samuel daughter thanks Diana

My GGGG grandmother is Elizabeth ROBERT. Don’t know much about her except that she married Benjamin BENNETT at Llanrhidian, Gower, 8 November 1786. Would be pleased to hear if you can make a connection to any of your ROBERT people. Russell Phillips, UK. Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:54:41 +0200 From: "E. Schreuder" <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <20050814095434.PESO28432.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@TOS01> Subject: weddiingrecords Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Wonder if somebody can help me with my search for the wedding-records of the following family in Llanelli-area: Edward Robert to Margaret ...... near 1762 William Robert to Ann ....... near 1765 Edward Robert lived at Ty -isha. Only know about William and Ann that they had a son Thomas Roberts, born 1765. Elwyn- Netherlands. _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/

Wm.Williams, b. ca 1801 lived out his life in LlanfairarBryn. Died of natural causes May 1847. Any way to secure a death record on this? Thanks..Bill