Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry about Juliand and Gregorian calenders. I recently was working in Polish and Russian records. Found that often both dates were used in middle 1800's. Herschuel

Hi List, Sent off list. -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Tiernan [mailto:jackietiernan@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 30 September 2005 14:10 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] 1861 census info. Hi List. Does anyone have access to above census, & would be willing to do a look up for me? Trying to find: Amy Lewis born June 1856 to parents John & Sarah Lewis. She was baptised in Llanegwad church, but may have lived in Abernant parish. Most grateful for any help. Jackie. ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database

Hi List. Does anyone have access to above census, & would be willing to do a look up for me? Trying to find: Amy Lewis born June 1856 to parents John & Sarah Lewis. She was baptised in Llanegwad church, but may have lived in Abernant parish. Most grateful for any help. Jackie.

Does any one have information on the following marriage and families: Marriage: PHILLIP, David, farmer, bach., Llanboidy, CMN. 1802, February 6. At Ll. Elizabeth Griffith. A.,B. 24/181. (Their parents, where lived and witnesses?) Source: http://www.llgc.org.uk:81/isysquery/irl58d/13/doc (A = Afidaviate, B =bond) National Screen and Sound Archive of Wales: Archives: Marriage bonds (ISYS:web) Index of applicants for marriage licences 1616-1837 http://www.llgc.org.uk/cronfa/cronfa_s001.htm I'm trying to find the ancestors of Ellen Phillips bn (19) Jul 1813, St. Martin's Haverfordwest, Pem. Wales. Who married George Duggan Gibbs, (tailor by trade) bn 11Apr 1820, Haverfordwest, Pem. Wales, married: 17 Dec 1843, St. Mary's Par.,Haverfordwest, Pem. Wales. Ellen's parents are David Phillips & (Ellen/Hellen)Griffiths . David may have raised blood horses and hounds. I'm wondering if the above could be Ellen's parents since I can't find them in Haverfordwest? I think they both may have died before the 1841 census. They both died while Ellen was a young girl. Her father did remarry, unknown, after her mother died. Thanks, Fred Seamons

Hi Pauline, Thanks for your reply. I've found out where Nantcwnlle is now(with help from you listers) I saw the name on the 1881 census and FamilySearch site. All I have to do now is sort the family out. Hope it is the right one. Thanks, Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > Jenny, do you think it is a name for their abode and not a > place/town/parish name > > On what documents did you see this name? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Duggan" <jennifer.duggan@ntlworld.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:58 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > > >> Hi listers. >> Can someone tell me where Nantcwnlle is or was please? On some records >> around the 1830's it says Cardigan, but I can't find it on any map that I >> have. >> Thanks for your help, Jenny >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 27/09/2005 > >

Hi Dave, Thanks for your help, I've just spent a very interesting few hours looking through the website you gave me. I didn't have any idea where Nantcwnlle was. It's probably changed a lot from from 1798 when Evan Davies was christened. I still have a lot of work to do on this to check the details(make sure I'm following the right family). Thanks again. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jones" <dpjones@btconnect.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > Nantcwnlle is north of Lampeter in Cardiganshire. For info see GENUKI - > here's the link > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Nancwnlle/ > > Hope this helps > > > Dave Jones > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > > >> Jenny, do you think it is a name for their abode and not a >> place/town/parish name >> >> On what documents did you see this name? >> >> Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jennifer Duggan" <jennifer.duggan@ntlworld.com> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:58 PM >> Subject: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please >> >> >>> Hi listers. >>> Can someone tell me where Nantcwnlle is or was please? On some records >>> around the 1830's it says Cardigan, but I can't find it on any map that >>> I have. >>> Thanks for your help, Jenny >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information >>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your >> PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed >> from this mailing list >> >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 27/09/2005 > >

forwarded for Jackie......she subscribed and sent message the same time so was not on the 'accept' list... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Tiernan" <jackietiernan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Amy LEWIS, baptised 1856 Llanegwad. > Hi List, > Have been away from the list for a while, so trying again to trace my > LEWIS & EVANS, families. > > Amy Lewis baptised Llanegwad church , 17th July 1856. > Father John Lewis woolspinner, born Llanegwad. > mother Sarah [nee Jones.] > Place of abode on baptism records was Inyrcryg, Abernant parish. > > Amy's parents were married at Llansteffan,[Llanstephan] in 1852, John > Lewis was a woolspinner at a factory called "Duffryn Tawel" then, Sarah > was a servant. > > Have been trying to trace this family for a long time, but have had no > luck on census. > > If anyone can help me out , would be most grateful, or if you have these > names in your tree, please contact me. > > Thank you for your time, > Jackie from S. Devon.

Hi I am asking for a friend if anyone has Gingell or/and Hampton names in their family trees......from Bath and Wiltshire..... Pauline

Nantcwnlle is north of Lampeter in Cardiganshire. For info see GENUKI - here's the link http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Nancwnlle/ Hope this helps Dave Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > Jenny, do you think it is a name for their abode and not a > place/town/parish name > > On what documents did you see this name? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Duggan" <jennifer.duggan@ntlworld.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:58 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > > >> Hi listers. >> Can someone tell me where Nantcwnlle is or was please? On some records >> around the 1830's it says Cardigan, but I can't find it on any map that I >> have. >> Thanks for your help, Jenny >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list > > >

Jenny, do you think it is a name for their abode and not a place/town/parish name On what documents did you see this name? Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Duggan" <jennifer.duggan@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] where is /was this place please > Hi listers. > Can someone tell me where Nantcwnlle is or was please? On some records > around the 1830's it says Cardigan, but I can't find it on any map that I > have. > Thanks for your help, Jenny > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Hi Dave The way everyone is going 1841 will be finished shortly......it is hard to believe that everyone has rallied around to get this finished...... Great for the on-line indexes that are now available with CFHS brilliant and thanks to all Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jones" <dpjones@btconnect.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] 1841 CENSUS DAVID & ELIZABETH PARRY > Adrian - I am currently transcribing Llanfairarybryn 1841 and I'm about > two thirds through. I checked but don't see any Parry's to match yet but > if I do I'll post it. Hope to finish Llanfair before I go away end next > week. > > > Dave Jones > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:40 AM > Subject: [Cmn-L] 1841 CENSUS DAVID & ELIZABETH PARRY > > >> David PARRY, a labourer living in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn, married Elizabeth >> MORGANS in the Independent Chapel at Pentre-ty-gwyn on 4 December 1840. >> The 1851 census shows that David was born in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn c >> 1812/13. Elizabeth was born in Conwil Caio c 1813. >> >> Their son David was born in Coledge, Llanfair-ar-y-bryn on 7 September >> 1841, so it is very likely that they were living in the same area at the >> time of the 1841 census. >> >> Can anyone help me please with details of their entries in the 1841 >> census? >> >> Adrian >> Yorkshire >> >> Family history web-site at: - >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrianp/ >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Hi listers. Can someone tell me where Nantcwnlle is or was please? On some records around the 1830's it says Cardigan, but I can't find it on any map that I have. Thanks for your help, Jenny

Notes David Thomas born 1824 in Llanfair-ar-bryn. Catherine Williams also born Llanfair 1839 first husband was David B. Thomas. He predeceased her and there were two children born of this union, John R. Thomas and D,V. Thomas. Her second husband was David W. Evans also of Carmarthenshire. Catherine her children and David came to Pa. and lived out their lives there. Any connections to the Thomas line currently listed? Thanks Bill

Adrian - I am currently transcribing Llanfairarybryn 1841 and I'm about two thirds through. I checked but don't see any Parry's to match yet but if I do I'll post it. Hope to finish Llanfair before I go away end next week. Dave Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:40 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] 1841 CENSUS DAVID & ELIZABETH PARRY > David PARRY, a labourer living in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn, married Elizabeth > MORGANS in the Independent Chapel at Pentre-ty-gwyn on 4 December 1840. > The 1851 census shows that David was born in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn c 1812/13. > Elizabeth was born in Conwil Caio c 1813. > > Their son David was born in Coledge, Llanfair-ar-y-bryn on 7 September > 1841, so it is very likely that they were living in the same area at the > time of the 1841 census. > > Can anyone help me please with details of their entries in the 1841 > census? > > Adrian > Yorkshire > > Family history web-site at: - > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrianp/ > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > >

Also found this this morning HO107/1386/9 enu dist 6 - might help DUGOEDYDD FACH HANNAH VIPPOND 37 Y THOMAS VIPPOND 14 Y MARY VIPPOND 12 Y ANNE VIPPOND 8 Y DAVID VIPPOND 1 Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > Hi David > > Here is the entry I gave earlier, just incase another lister is following > the same family > > Llanfairarybryn 1851 census enu dist 4b sch 89 > Pen....... > William Thomas head marr 61 mason born Llanfairarybryn > Mary Thomas wife marr 62 born Cilycwm > Robert Thomas son 16 leadminer born Llanfairarybryn > > wife here is Mary, wonder why? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. DAvid Thomas" <david.tyddu@btconnect.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:30 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > > >> Hi List, >> >> May have sent this previous but not to list. l and had some help from >> Pauline off list due to my new email address not working I hope it is >> now. >> >> I am looking for the place of Birth of William THOMAS he Married >> Elizabeth >> ROBERTS in 1815 at Cilycwm. >> >> He lived in and around Llanfair ar Bryn had children Charlotte 1816, >> Thomas 1817, Jane 1819, John 1821, Robert 1822 [Died1827] >> Mary 1824, Iasaac 1826, David 1824 and Robert 1835. [Another Robert 1827] >> >> It is in the family bible that William Thomas Vipond dropped the Vipond >> and used the name William Thomas when he married Elizabeth Roberts in >> 1815. Viponds are in the area from about 1754 but not many Males >> christenings or Deaths which makes me wonder if they are in non >> conformist records. >> >> As William had a son born 1835 their must be a chance that the family are >> around on the 1841 list. It would be very significant if William's Birth >> was in the County of Carmarthen [or even more if elsware!!!] >> >> >> Would it be possible for a look up on the 1841 or 1851 census [Pauline >> could not find them on the 1851 census] to see what Parish or County he >> was born in? The children were all born in Llanfair ar Bryn I cannot find >> William or Elizabeth on the 1861 census but can possibly find some >> of the Children. >> >> Any help would be very much appreciated. >> >> David Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > >

David PARRY, a labourer living in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn, married Elizabeth MORGANS in the Independent Chapel at Pentre-ty-gwyn on 4 December 1840. The 1851 census shows that David was born in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn c 1812/13. Elizabeth was born in Conwil Caio c 1813. Their son David was born in Coledge, Llanfair-ar-y-bryn on 7 September 1841, so it is very likely that they were living in the same area at the time of the 1841 census. Can anyone help me please with details of their entries in the 1841 census? Adrian Yorkshire Family history web-site at: - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrianp/

David, in the marriage you have is that from the bible.....this is what I have from my marriage indexes. 1815 17th March Cilycwm parish church William Thomas yeoman of this parish and Elizabeth Roberts of Llanfairarybryn I have a few of a William Thomas to a Mary.......do you want any of them, or are you sure that the one above is the correct one? Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. DAvid Thomas" <david.tyddu@btconnect.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > Hi List, > > May have sent this previous but not to list. l and had some help from > Pauline off list due to my new email address not working I hope it is now. > > I am looking for the place of Birth of William THOMAS he Married > Elizabeth > ROBERTS in 1815 at Cilycwm. > > He lived in and around Llanfair ar Bryn had children Charlotte 1816, > Thomas 1817, Jane 1819, John 1821, Robert 1822 [Died1827] > Mary 1824, Iasaac 1826, David 1824 and Robert 1835. [Another Robert 1827] > > It is in the family bible that William Thomas Vipond dropped the Vipond > and used the name William Thomas when he married Elizabeth Roberts in > 1815. Viponds are in the area from about 1754 but not many Males > christenings or Deaths which makes me wonder if they are in non conformist > records. > > As William had a son born 1835 their must be a chance that the family are > around on the 1841 list. It would be very significant if William's Birth > was in the County of Carmarthen [or even more if elsware!!!] > > > Would it be possible for a look up on the 1841 or 1851 census [Pauline > could not find them on the 1851 census] to see what Parish or County he > was born in? The children were all born in Llanfair ar Bryn I cannot find > William or Elizabeth on the 1861 census but can possibly find some > of the Children. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > David Thomas > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

David I have checked the actual 1851 census image and it is definately Mary......no mistaking.. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > Hi David > > Here is the entry I gave earlier, just incase another lister is following > the same family > > Llanfairarybryn 1851 census enu dist 4b sch 89 > Pen....... > William Thomas head marr 61 mason born Llanfairarybryn > Mary Thomas wife marr 62 born Cilycwm > Robert Thomas son 16 leadminer born Llanfairarybryn > > wife here is Mary, wonder why? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. DAvid Thomas" <david.tyddu@btconnect.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:30 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > > >> Hi List, >> >> May have sent this previous but not to list. l and had some help from >> Pauline off list due to my new email address not working I hope it is >> now. >> >> I am looking for the place of Birth of William THOMAS he Married >> Elizabeth >> ROBERTS in 1815 at Cilycwm. >> >> He lived in and around Llanfair ar Bryn had children Charlotte 1816, >> Thomas 1817, Jane 1819, John 1821, Robert 1822 [Died1827] >> Mary 1824, Iasaac 1826, David 1824 and Robert 1835. [Another Robert 1827] >> >> It is in the family bible that William Thomas Vipond dropped the Vipond >> and used the name William Thomas when he married Elizabeth Roberts in >> 1815. Viponds are in the area from about 1754 but not many Males >> christenings or Deaths which makes me wonder if they are in non >> conformist records. >> >> As William had a son born 1835 their must be a chance that the family are >> around on the 1841 list. It would be very significant if William's Birth >> was in the County of Carmarthen [or even more if elsware!!!] >> >> >> Would it be possible for a look up on the 1841 or 1851 census [Pauline >> could not find them on the 1851 census] to see what Parish or County he >> was born in? The children were all born in Llanfair ar Bryn I cannot find >> William or Elizabeth on the 1861 census but can possibly find some >> of the Children. >> >> Any help would be very much appreciated. >> >> David Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi David Here is the entry I gave earlier, just incase another lister is following the same family Llanfairarybryn 1851 census enu dist 4b sch 89 Pen....... William Thomas head marr 61 mason born Llanfairarybryn Mary Thomas wife marr 62 born Cilycwm Robert Thomas son 16 leadminer born Llanfairarybryn wife here is Mary, wonder why? Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. DAvid Thomas" <david.tyddu@btconnect.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > Hi List, > > May have sent this previous but not to list. l and had some help from > Pauline off list due to my new email address not working I hope it is now. > > I am looking for the place of Birth of William THOMAS he Married > Elizabeth > ROBERTS in 1815 at Cilycwm. > > He lived in and around Llanfair ar Bryn had children Charlotte 1816, > Thomas 1817, Jane 1819, John 1821, Robert 1822 [Died1827] > Mary 1824, Iasaac 1826, David 1824 and Robert 1835. [Another Robert 1827] > > It is in the family bible that William Thomas Vipond dropped the Vipond > and used the name William Thomas when he married Elizabeth Roberts in > 1815. Viponds are in the area from about 1754 but not many Males > christenings or Deaths which makes me wonder if they are in non conformist > records. > > As William had a son born 1835 their must be a chance that the family are > around on the 1841 list. It would be very significant if William's Birth > was in the County of Carmarthen [or even more if elsware!!!] > > > Would it be possible for a look up on the 1841 or 1851 census [Pauline > could not find them on the 1851 census] to see what Parish or County he > was born in? The children were all born in Llanfair ar Bryn I cannot find > William or Elizabeth on the 1861 census but can possibly find some > of the Children. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > David Thomas > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

I am currently transcribing 1841 Llanfairarybryn and recalled that I have just recently come across the folllowing entries which are possibly relevant. In HO107/1386/10 enu dist 4 Glancrychan Rees Price 50 Farmer Y Elizabeth Price 50 Y William Williams 30 Ag lab Y Isaac Vipan 15 Y Morgan Morgan 14 Y Mary Price 25 F.S. Y Elizabeth Davies 15 y Pentwyn Thomas Vipan 55 Ag Lab Y Mary Vipan 50 Y John Vipan 20 Y Daniel Vipan 11 Y Morgan Vipan 8 Y Margaret Vipan 14 Y Margaret Vipan 4 Y I happen to have a second cousin whose middle name was Vipond and as I was transcibing these it struck a chord - hope this helps. Tomorrow I will check these for accuracy. If I find any further Vipans / Viponds I will post them Dave Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. DAvid Thomas" <david.tyddu@btconnect.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] THOMAS at Llanfairybryn > Hi List, > > May have sent this previous but not to list. l and had some help from > Pauline off list due to my new email address not working I hope it is now. > > I am looking for the place of Birth of William THOMAS he Married > Elizabeth > ROBERTS in 1815 at Cilycwm. > > He lived in and around Llanfair ar Bryn had children Charlotte 1816, > Thomas 1817, Jane 1819, John 1821, Robert 1822 [Died1827] > Mary 1824, Iasaac 1826, David 1824 and Robert 1835. [Another Robert 1827] > > It is in the family bible that William Thomas Vipond dropped the Vipond > and used the name William Thomas when he married Elizabeth Roberts in > 1815. Viponds are in the area from about 1754 but not many Males > christenings or Deaths which makes me wonder if they are in non conformist > records. > > As William had a son born 1835 their must be a chance that the family are > around on the 1841 list. It would be very significant if William's Birth > was in the County of Carmarthen [or even more if elsware!!!] > > > Would it be possible for a look up on the 1841 or 1851 census [Pauline > could not find them on the 1851 census] to see what Parish or County he > was born in? The children were all born in Llanfair ar Bryn I cannot find > William or Elizabeth on the 1861 census but can possibly find some > of the Children. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > David Thomas > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > >