Hi Liz I do not remember seeing this query as being 1851 and Llanelli I would have answered.....is this them? Llanelly 1851 census enu dist 1c sch 180 page 44 Wern, Columbia Row Edward Roberts head marr 51 mason born Llanelly Elizabeth Roberts wife marr 53 born Kidwelly Edward Roberts son 25 mason born Llanelly Elizabeth Roberts dau 18 bookbinding born Llanelly Mary Roberts dau 15 scholar born Llanelly David Roberts son 9 scholar born Llanelly do you know what Edwards occupation was......hope this is them Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Rees" <Liz.Rees@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Quiet list - lookup please > Hello all > > I sent this request in a short while ago but there was no response. If > everyone's looking for something to do, perhaps someone would be kind > enough > to check for me. > > I'm looking for my great-grandmother Elizabeth Roberts and her family in > the > 1851 census > > She was born about 1832 in Llanelly (from age given in 1881 census) and I > see there are 4 possibles in the Llanelli index on the Carmarthenshire FHS > website, aged 23, 18 (perhaps the most likely), and two aged 17. > > However, I know her father's name was Edward, and there are only two > possibles there; one aged 50 and one aged 51. > > Hopefully one of these entries will tie up! > > Best wishes > > Liz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 02 October 2005 16:20 > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D Digest V05 #327 > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Hi Pauline and Listers, Pauline after you helped me find my gg grandfather Joshua Morris b1810 and his wife Elizabeth Thomas , I am eager to track down what happened to his children and also who were his parents, I know about Joshua Lewis Morris my great grand father he migrated to Australia in 1878 but I am resperate to find out the other details of Joshua Lewis Morris's siblings and alsop where the rest of the family went . It goes like this, Joshua Morris b 1/11/1810 Carmn m 2/9/1834 St Peters Cmn to Elizaheth Thomas b 1810 Daughter of James Thomas (sawyer) His Father David Morris b 5/1775? m to [Margaret Richard bap 1782/3 Carmn ( 1841 cens of Mary St and 1851 cens of Spurrels yard] children of David and Margaret Mary bap 3/4/1807 Joshua bap 1/11/1810 ( my gg grandfather) David bap 19/12/1813 Samuel bap 20/10/1816 beleive died in infancy Samuel b 18/7/1818 Margaret b24/12/1821 bap 6/51821 William bap 5/6/1825 So I am trying to find out where these people went to and also find out and confirm the DavidMorris and Margaret Richard aspect and who were Davids siblings amd parents. Once I have sorted this out I can then research or ask for assistance to research my ggrandfathers siblings ( Joshua Lewis Morris ) He was bapt 21/3/1840? Carmn m 1/4/1867 Newbridge Registry Pontypridd to Mary Ann Williams (b 22/4/1847 Aberdare dau of Bethuel Williams) His Siblings: David bapt 12/2/1832 Llangynin Elizabeth bapt 23/11/1832 St Clears Carmn John bapt 17/6/1835 St Clears Carmn I really need help here, I understood that some of Joshua Lewis Morris's siblings migrated to the USA and settled in Colorado ( Denver or Pykes Peak ) Any chance you nor the list can be of assistance. Regards to all Trevor Gerard (Australia)

Glad to see the site come to life. Recently searched my old sent mail from July to date and other than an occasional reply from Pauline, most queries have gone unanswered. I added several new Surnames to the listings for Llanfairarbryn and nary one response. Possibly other listers do not have same surnames in common but it is frustrating when requests have no responses. Bill in Ohio

Hello Pauline I understand the 1841 census will soon be available to search online. I need to look for my William POWELL, born around 1828, on the 1841 census for Wales to see where he was born and who his parents were. Any tips on where and how to search would be appreciated. Regards Lyn Taylor West Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > Thanks Pat, yes, rest your arm and take it easy.....Perhaps the indexing > is causing the problems......bad neck I get ..... > > It is Llanboidy 1841 you are doing, not many parishes to go now, its been > wonderful..... > > We didn't think that both 1841 and 1851 would be finished so close > together, being as 1851 took close to 5 years!!!1841 is only taking a > couple of months......many hands make light work.. > > Thanks Pat, take it easy speak soon Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:00 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > > >> Hi Pauline & all, >> >> Just to say I'm still here - but being a bit quiet as I seem to have >> developed aches and pains in my right arm - possibly from too much >> keyboard work!! >> >> So I am trying not to do too much at the moment - just short bursts. >> >> I don't want it to become a chronic condition - I did have a bit of a >> problem some years ago when I was working from home , and found a bit of >> "resting up" did the trick. >> >> So If I see a query I can answer easily I do - but otherwise I am >> rationing things to completing the indexing. >> >> >> Will be back chatting soon. >> >> Pat >> >> >> >> In message <006a01c5c731$5c581ad0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>Hi Bernard >>> >>>Yes, you are correct, it is nowhere near as busy, I have tried a few >>>times >>>to 'wake' people up, but no-one seems to respond anymore......do not know >>>why... >>> >>>Pauline >> -- >> Pat Powell >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > >

Hello all I sent this request in a short while ago but there was no response. If everyone's looking for something to do, perhaps someone would be kind enough to check for me. I'm looking for my great-grandmother Elizabeth Roberts and her family in the 1851 census She was born about 1832 in Llanelly (from age given in 1881 census) and I see there are 4 possibles in the Llanelli index on the Carmarthenshire FHS website, aged 23, 18 (perhaps the most likely), and two aged 17. However, I know her father's name was Edward, and there are only two possibles there; one aged 50 and one aged 51. Hopefully one of these entries will tie up! Best wishes Liz -----Original Message----- From: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 02 October 2005 16:20 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com Subject: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D Digest V05 #327

I would very much appreciate any assistance in overcoming my Carmarthenshire brickwalls, which are as follows: - 1) I have been unable to identify the parents of my g g grandfather David PARRY. He married Elizabeth MORGANS in the Independent Chapel at Llanfair ar y bryn on 4 December 1840. Unfortunately the marriage certificate does not include the names of the father of either the groom or the bride. The registry office has confirmed their records do not include the names either. The 1851 census shows that David was born in Llanfair ar y bryn c 1812/13. The 1861 census indicates his birth as being a year earlier. The 1871 census is in line with that of 1851. His son David gave his age as 65 when he died in 1875, which indicates a birth year of 1809/10. 2) For the same reason I have been unable to identify the parents of my g g grandmother Elizabeth PARRY (née MORGANS). The 1851 census shows that Elizabeth was born in Conwil Caio c 1812/13 which is consistent not only with the census returns of 1861 and 1871, but also her death in 1873 at the age of 60. 3) Both David and Elizabeth were buried in the graveyard attached to the Independent Chapel at Pentre ty gwyn. The headstone on their grave indicates that they lost two children as infants. I have been unable to discover their names or when they were born or died. The chapel registers from 1837 to the early 1900s have been lost! I know that their first son, David, was born on 28 August 1841 (his birth was registered). Their son Jenkin (my g grandfather) was born c 1845/46 although his birth does not appear to have been registered. I would very much like to discover details of the two unknown infants I suspect that it may well prove to be impossible to overcome these brickwalls, but who knows for sure!! Adrian Yorkshire

Hello Pauline Thank you. I have a transcription of the 1851 census relating to my PARRY forebears in Pentretygwyn that you sent me some time ago. I will post details of my brickwalls shortly. Thanks again for your help. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 02 October 2005 14:28 Subject: [Cmn-L] Parry Surname 1851 census > Hi Adrian > > I looked in 1851 Carmarthenshire census and there are 166 by the Parry surname listed.......no particular area, covering quite a few different parishes.......Llandeilo fawr has the most, Llandebie, St Peters, Pembrey, Llandefeilog, Llanfairarybryn etc.etc.... > > Pauline

Hi Joy I agree with you re not doing any researching any longer - some just want to find a name and that is it.......that is the fun of research, finding out who was who.....the CRO is very grateful to us though as we have saved them hours and hours of searching through various records, as you know CFHS donated 2 computers to Carmarthen archives and a vast amount of indexes, 1851 included 1841 to be added when finished.......with indexes as stated you should still always check the original, we also supply the census CD sets so one can view the index and double check with the digitalised image, or if one is in the relevant record office check the film.... Not only Carms and Pembs do not have many mailings anymore, its the same with all the 'List' pages.....its because there is so much on line that people do not have to ask volunteers anymore ....I don't subscribe to any other lists as I just do not have the time........I am lucky enough to ask on our 2 lists and another person will try to help me if they can.....so I do not know what is happening on them. The people who have been indexing Carms1841 for us have thoroughly enjoyed it, seeing how the people lived, who was rich and who was poor,.......one transcriber thought that one of the best ones she did was where they all appeared to be monied people.....sorry Barbara, forgot which parish now!!! It is the thrill of going through them all. I am currently indexing Carmarthen St Peters baptisms which are fascinating, different surnames occupation and so many spurious births. I have completed all the burials that took place in St Peters so concentrating on the baptisms now, the CRO requested this, although I am no longer in Carmarthen, I still index for them........'from a distance'..... Indexing is needed to locate some people as it is the way forward, but always view the actual entry too as transcription errors do occur..........1841 was a difficult index to transcribe mainly because the images are faint because for that one they used pencil..... thanks for your comments Joy......oh and yes......Pat Powell....... yes she is a treasure...and a person who I regard as a 'friend'!! Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycozens@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > > Dear Richard > > Maybe the reason why the Dyfed Mailing List does not appear to get as many > enquiries as the Carmarthenshire ones is that most research enquirers > find > their way to the Lookup Exchange which is accessed via the link on > Gareth's Help > Page > > _http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html_ > (http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html) > There, under the various Hundreds, you will find the name of people > prepared > to do lookups in the Hundreds in which they specialise. Using various > indexes they are in one to one contact with the enquirer and do not come > through > the Mailing List. Pembrokeshire does not have the vast range of indexes > that > you and Pauline have worked on over the past 20 years or so but the > volunteers do provide as much information as they can backed by local > knowledge. > However, of late, more and more enquiries seem to come on the the Mailing > List > and I do not know what percentage are dealt with direct. > I believe that Pat Powell is one of the volunteers - a very > knowledgeable, > busy and involved lady! > As regards Ancestry being able to provide all the answers I think it will > be > a sad day when researchers no longer look at the original documents. > Admittedly it will save wear and tear on a valuable source but often the > contents > there can tell us so much more than a mere index. As a researcher for > over 35 > years I find it sad that people can look at a census index, order and > order > a copy of the entry online without any of the thrill of finding a person > after hours of trawling that did give you some feeling of the area in > which they > lived and the people who would have been their friends and neighbours. > Just > amassing a collection of dates and places is not my idea of family > history > but then I'm one of the old fashioned kind! > Bye for now > Joy > Bye for now > Joy > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Possibly, the same with CMN-L & CMN-FHS, Pauline and I get lots of questions/requests off list as well. Regards Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycozens@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > > Dear Richard > > Maybe the reason why the Dyfed Mailing List does not appear to get as many > enquiries as the Carmarthenshire ones is that most research enquirers > find > their way to the Lookup Exchange which is accessed via the link on > Gareth's Help > Page > > _http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html_ > (http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html) > There, under the various Hundreds, you will find the name of people > prepared > to do lookups in the Hundreds in which they specialise. Using various > indexes they are in one to one contact with the enquirer and do not come > through > the Mailing List. Pembrokeshire does not have the vast range of indexes > that > you and Pauline have worked on over the past 20 years or so but the > volunteers do provide as much information as they can backed by local > knowledge. > However, of late, more and more enquiries seem to come on the the Mailing > List > and I do not know what percentage are dealt with direct. > I believe that Pat Powell is one of the volunteers - a very > knowledgeable, > busy and involved lady! > As regards Ancestry being able to provide all the answers I think it will > be > a sad day when researchers no longer look at the original documents. > Admittedly it will save wear and tear on a valuable source but often the > contents > there can tell us so much more than a mere index. As a researcher for > over 35 > years I find it sad that people can look at a census index, order and > order > a copy of the entry online without any of the thrill of finding a person > after hours of trawling that did give you some feeling of the area in > which they > lived and the people who would have been their friends and neighbours. > Just > amassing a collection of dates and places is not my idea of family > history > but then I'm one of the old fashioned kind! > Bye for now > Joy > Bye for now > Joy > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >

Joy, With Ancestry one sees the original census entry; that is the value and saves an enormous amount of time. The person entering the fray these days can achieve as much in a week that it would have taken you years to achieve previously. All relevant records will be accessible to the same extent sometime in the future: indexes are just the start of and only half of the equation. Current downside is that the indexes are error prone and need to be audited. There is sadly also an emotional deficit to this in that discovering a lot of forebears in a small time frame does leave one with no sense of belonging to them; your "collection of names". I have only recently started to feel like this after tracking down a lot of my father's family very rapidly; over one weekend in fact. Must admit I did ask myself if I gave a damn that my x times great-grandfather was a stone mason in Swansea. Only I can answer that and I can't! Still my endeavours have sharpened up my comprehension of Welsh history, locations and the language. Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: richardjames [mailto:richardjames@wales-genealogy.co.uk] Sent: 02 October 2005 16:20 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing Possibly, the same with CMN-L & CMN-FHS, Pauline and I get lots of questions/requests off list as well. Regards Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycozens@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > > Dear Richard > > Maybe the reason why the Dyfed Mailing List does not appear to get as many > enquiries as the Carmarthenshire ones is that most research enquirers > find > their way to the Lookup Exchange which is accessed via the link on > Gareth's Help > Page > > _http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html_ > (http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html) > There, under the various Hundreds, you will find the name of people > prepared > to do lookups in the Hundreds in which they specialise. Using various > indexes they are in one to one contact with the enquirer and do not come > through > the Mailing List. Pembrokeshire does not have the vast range of indexes > that > you and Pauline have worked on over the past 20 years or so but the > volunteers do provide as much information as they can backed by local > knowledge. > However, of late, more and more enquiries seem to come on the the Mailing > List > and I do not know what percentage are dealt with direct. > I believe that Pat Powell is one of the volunteers - a very > knowledgeable, > busy and involved lady! > As regards Ancestry being able to provide all the answers I think it will > be > a sad day when researchers no longer look at the original documents. > Admittedly it will save wear and tear on a valuable source but often the > contents > there can tell us so much more than a mere index. As a researcher for > over 35 > years I find it sad that people can look at a census index, order and > order > a copy of the entry online without any of the thrill of finding a person > after hours of trawling that did give you some feeling of the area in > which they > lived and the people who would have been their friends and neighbours. > Just > amassing a collection of dates and places is not my idea of family > history > but then I'm one of the old fashioned kind! > Bye for now > Joy > Bye for now > Joy > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Lyn, I have looked in 1851 there are only 34 William Powel/l's there are a few with similar ages, do you have an occupation or anything extra on him... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "PR & LS Taylor" <ptaylor@esat.net.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > Hello Pauline > > I understand the 1841 census will soon be available to search online. I > need to look for my William POWELL, born around 1828, on the 1841 census > for Wales to see where he was born and who his parents were. Any tips on > where and how to search would be appreciated. > > Regards > > Lyn Taylor > West Australia > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > > >> Thanks Pat, yes, rest your arm and take it easy.....Perhaps the indexing >> is causing the problems......bad neck I get ..... >> >> It is Llanboidy 1841 you are doing, not many parishes to go now, its been >> wonderful..... >> >> We didn't think that both 1841 and 1851 would be finished so close >> together, being as 1851 took close to 5 years!!!1841 is only taking a >> couple of months......many hands make light work.. >> >> Thanks Pat, take it easy speak soon Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:00 PM >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >> >> >>> Hi Pauline & all, >>> >>> Just to say I'm still here - but being a bit quiet as I seem to have >>> developed aches and pains in my right arm - possibly from too much >>> keyboard work!! >>> >>> So I am trying not to do too much at the moment - just short bursts. >>> >>> I don't want it to become a chronic condition - I did have a bit of a >>> problem some years ago when I was working from home , and found a bit of >>> "resting up" did the trick. >>> >>> So If I see a query I can answer easily I do - but otherwise I am >>> rationing things to completing the indexing. >>> >>> >>> Will be back chatting soon. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> >>> In message <006a01c5c731$5c581ad0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >>> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>>Hi Bernard >>>> >>>>Yes, you are correct, it is nowhere near as busy, I have tried a few >>>>times >>>>to 'wake' people up, but no-one seems to respond anymore......do not >>>>know >>>>why... >>>> >>>>Pauline >>> -- >>> Pat Powell >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Thank you Rhodri, sooooooo thrilled at finding them, you are a star!!! Will be able to follow these two now, , I did wonder if anymore moved to Glam, as my 2xgreat grandma did & married there. Cheers, from a really chuffed Jackie in Devon.

Lyn Place of birth is not given on the 1841 census only if born in county yes or no......where is he in 1851 do you know? Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "PR & LS Taylor" <ptaylor@esat.net.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > Hello Pauline > > I understand the 1841 census will soon be available to search online. I > need to look for my William POWELL, born around 1828, on the 1841 census > for Wales to see where he was born and who his parents were. Any tips on > where and how to search would be appreciated. > > Regards > > Lyn Taylor > West Australia > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > > >> Thanks Pat, yes, rest your arm and take it easy.....Perhaps the indexing >> is causing the problems......bad neck I get ..... >> >> It is Llanboidy 1841 you are doing, not many parishes to go now, its been >> wonderful..... >> >> We didn't think that both 1841 and 1851 would be finished so close >> together, being as 1851 took close to 5 years!!!1841 is only taking a >> couple of months......many hands make light work.. >> >> Thanks Pat, take it easy speak soon Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:00 PM >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >> >> >>> Hi Pauline & all, >>> >>> Just to say I'm still here - but being a bit quiet as I seem to have >>> developed aches and pains in my right arm - possibly from too much >>> keyboard work!! >>> >>> So I am trying not to do too much at the moment - just short bursts. >>> >>> I don't want it to become a chronic condition - I did have a bit of a >>> problem some years ago when I was working from home , and found a bit of >>> "resting up" did the trick. >>> >>> So If I see a query I can answer easily I do - but otherwise I am >>> rationing things to completing the indexing. >>> >>> >>> Will be back chatting soon. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> >>> In message <006a01c5c731$5c581ad0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >>> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>>Hi Bernard >>>> >>>>Yes, you are correct, it is nowhere near as busy, I have tried a few >>>>times >>>>to 'wake' people up, but no-one seems to respond anymore......do not >>>>know >>>>why... >>>> >>>>Pauline >>> -- >>> Pat Powell >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Then Mary was living with her married sister Margaret in Merthyr Tydfil in 1861: Tramroadside Merthyr Tydfil Margaret Rees b 1837 wife Walter Rees b 1827 head Thomas Rees b 1858 son Mary Lewis b 1847 sister-in-law housekeeper Will send you entry off list. Looks like her [Mary] Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Tiernan [mailto:jackietiernan@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 02 October 2005 15:54 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] re: Amy/Amey Lewis. Thanks Rhodri, much appreciated. Yes ,there was a Margaret Lewis. Family consisted of: Lewis Lewis 1824 Elizabeth Lewis 1826. Anne 1828. John 1830. MARGARET, baptised 9th April, 1843. Catherine [my 2xgreat grandma.] 1835 approx, no baptism found for her. Mary 1844. All above except Catherine were baptised in Llanegwad church. Any connections?? Cheers Jackie. ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thanks Rhodri, much appreciated. Yes ,there was a Margaret Lewis. Family consisted of: Lewis Lewis 1824 Elizabeth Lewis 1826. Anne 1828. John 1830. MARGARET, baptised 9th April, 1843. Catherine [my 2xgreat grandma.] 1835 approx, no baptism found for her. Mary 1844. All above except Catherine were baptised in Llanegwad church. Any connections?? Cheers Jackie.

Hi Adrian I looked in 1851 Carmarthenshire census and there are 166 by the Parry surname listed.......no particular area, covering quite a few different parishes.......Llandeilo fawr has the most, Llandebie, St Peters, Pembrey, Llandefeilog, Llanfairarybryn etc.etc.... Pauline

Thanks Pat, yes, rest your arm and take it easy.....Perhaps the indexing is causing the problems......bad neck I get ..... It is Llanboidy 1841 you are doing, not many parishes to go now, its been wonderful..... We didn't think that both 1841 and 1851 would be finished so close together, being as 1851 took close to 5 years!!!1841 is only taking a couple of months......many hands make light work.. Thanks Pat, take it easy speak soon Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > Hi Pauline & all, > > Just to say I'm still here - but being a bit quiet as I seem to have > developed aches and pains in my right arm - possibly from too much > keyboard work!! > > So I am trying not to do too much at the moment - just short bursts. > > I don't want it to become a chronic condition - I did have a bit of a > problem some years ago when I was working from home , and found a bit of > "resting up" did the trick. > > So If I see a query I can answer easily I do - but otherwise I am > rationing things to completing the indexing. > > > Will be back chatting soon. > > Pat > > > > In message <006a01c5c731$5c581ad0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James > <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>Hi Bernard >> >>Yes, you are correct, it is nowhere near as busy, I have tried a few times >>to 'wake' people up, but no-one seems to respond anymore......do not know >>why... >> >>Pauline > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Did Mary have a sister named Margaret? Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: carmsman [mailto:carmsman@rhod.net] Sent: 02 October 2005 14:37 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] re:quiet list.A favour. 1861 Amy [spelt Amey] is living on her own. In those days daughters would probably have got live in jobs. Details sent to you off list. Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Tiernan [mailto:jackietiernan@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 02 October 2005 12:46 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] re:quiet list.A favour. Hi List, As the list is quiet, may I ask a favour? I have my ancestor on 1851 census in the Hamlet of Llechfraeth, Llanegwad HO 107/2471/12/229 Entry 41 Tanlan. Amy Lewis head widow, aged 55 pauper born Mydrim. Catherine Lewis dau.10 born Llanegwad. Mary dau. 6 Would anyone have access to 1861 for this family? Thank you for your time. ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi Trevor I cannot see them baptised in Carmarthen St Peters as I am currently indexing those parish registers.......looked for a burial of the first Samuel Morris, but not in the parish church...... Remind me what I found for you...... thanks hope you are well.....Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "May Tan/Trevor Gerard" <tangerard@bigpond.com.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: Re:[Cmn-L] Morris at Carmarthen > Hi Pauline and Listers, > Pauline after you helped me find > my gg grandfather Joshua Morris b1810 and his wife Elizabeth Thomas , I > am eager to track down what happened to his children and also who were his > parents, I know about Joshua Lewis Morris my great grand father he > migrated to Australia in 1878 but I am resperate to find out the other > details of Joshua Lewis Morris's siblings and alsop where the rest of the > family went . > > It goes like this, > > Joshua Morris b 1/11/1810 Carmn m 2/9/1834 St Peters Cmn to Elizaheth > Thomas b 1810 Daughter of James Thomas (sawyer) > > His Father David Morris b 5/1775? m to [Margaret Richard bap 1782/3 Carmn > ( 1841 cens of Mary St and 1851 cens of Spurrels yard] > > children of David and Margaret > > Mary bap 3/4/1807 > Joshua bap 1/11/1810 ( my gg grandfather) > David bap 19/12/1813 > Samuel bap 20/10/1816 beleive died in infancy > Samuel b 18/7/1818 > Margaret b24/12/1821 bap 6/51821 > William bap 5/6/1825 > So I am trying to find out where these people went to and also find out > and confirm the DavidMorris and Margaret Richard aspect and who were > Davids siblings amd parents. > > Once I have sorted this out I can then research or ask for assistance to > research my ggrandfathers siblings ( Joshua Lewis Morris ) > > He was bapt 21/3/1840? Carmn m 1/4/1867 Newbridge Registry Pontypridd to > Mary Ann Williams (b 22/4/1847 Aberdare dau of Bethuel Williams) > His Siblings: > David bapt 12/2/1832 Llangynin > Elizabeth bapt 23/11/1832 St Clears Carmn > John bapt 17/6/1835 St Clears Carmn > > I really need help here, I understood that some of Joshua Lewis Morris's > siblings migrated to the USA and settled in Colorado ( Denver or Pykes > Peak ) > > Any chance you nor the list can be of assistance. > > > Regards to all > > Trevor Gerard (Australia) > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

1861 Amy [spelt Amey] is living on her own. In those days daughters would probably have got live in jobs. Details sent to you off list. Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Tiernan [mailto:jackietiernan@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 02 October 2005 12:46 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] re:quiet list.A favour. Hi List, As the list is quiet, may I ask a favour? I have my ancestor on 1851 census in the Hamlet of Llechfraeth, Llanegwad HO 107/2471/12/229 Entry 41 Tanlan. Amy Lewis head widow, aged 55 pauper born Mydrim. Catherine Lewis dau.10 born Llanegwad. Mary dau. 6 Would anyone have access to 1861 for this family? Thank you for your time. ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>