I have located a marriage in the CMFHS index of marriages 1813-1837. Samuel Howell m Anne Daniel on 06/06/1818. Llangadock. How can I locate the marriage information, particularly the names of the parents. Herschuel

I have located a marriage in the CMFHS index of marriages 1813-1837. Samuel Howell m Anne Daniel on 06/06/1818. Llangadock. How can I locate the marriage information, particularly the names of the parents. Herschuel

Hello, Pauline, It has been a while since I last contacted you re: the record of birth of WILLIAM EDWARDS, born 27 Feb. 1817 in Llanelly Carmarthenshire. Having had no positive results thus far, I am asking if you would kindly check the non-conformist records of Llanelly to see if he and the names of his parents are listed there. If you don't mind checking this for me, I will truly appreciate it, and I thank you in advance for this courtesy. Regards, Jane in Cal.

Benita has completed yet another CD full of intersting information....... I will not say here, but have told Benita as a Historian to let us all know about this new CD .......another one....well done Benita!!! All to do with Local History.... Thanks again Benita let everyone know in your words what we can look forward too........... Pauline

Hi Pauline. Thanks for your response. Hatsoff to those hard working volunteers doing the indexing. Sorry I cant be of help in this process. I am in no hurry. Will come back with my requests at a later date..Thanks..Bill in Ohio

Pauline Thank you so much. Yes, he was a mason, as was my great grandfather John Rees whom Elizabeth married in 1858 (I wonder if they worked together?) from Columbia Row. This is certainly her, and adds another few pieces to the jigsaw, or stitches to the tapestry, however you prefer to look at it. Best wishes Liz -----Original Message----- From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] Sent: 02 October 2005 21:39 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Quiet list - lookup please Hi Liz I do not remember seeing this query as being 1851 and Llanelli I would have answered.....is this them? Llanelly 1851 census enu dist 1c sch 180 page 44 Wern, Columbia Row Edward Roberts head marr 51 mason born Llanelly Elizabeth Roberts wife marr 53 born Kidwelly Edward Roberts son 25 mason born Llanelly Elizabeth Roberts dau 18 bookbinding born Llanelly Mary Roberts dau 15 scholar born Llanelly David Roberts son 9 scholar born Llanelly do you know what Edwards occupation was......hope this is them Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Rees" <Liz.Rees@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Quiet list - lookup please > Hello all > > I sent this request in a short while ago but there was no response. If > everyone's looking for something to do, perhaps someone would be kind > enough > to check for me. > > I'm looking for my great-grandmother Elizabeth Roberts and her family in > the > 1851 census > > She was born about 1832 in Llanelly (from age given in 1881 census) and I > see there are 4 possibles in the Llanelli index on the Carmarthenshire FHS > website, aged 23, 18 (perhaps the most likely), and two aged 17. > > However, I know her father's name was Edward, and there are only two > possibles there; one aged 50 and one aged 51. > > Hopefully one of these entries will tie up! > > Best wishes > > Liz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 02 October 2005 16:20 > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D Digest V05 #327 > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > ______________________________

Hi, I found the following in a Google search but don't know where to go from here. Where would I go to get more information on the marriage, get a certificate etc.? Would it be recorded in Llanboidy Parish? What is an Afidaviate & Marriage Bond? What information would I find on them? What information would they contain. I'm not sure these are the right parrents because Ellen Phillips, born Jul 1813 (can't find a baptism in parish register) was born in St. Martin's Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire. This marriagehas the right time period, occupation & names though, so might be her parents, How would I know for sure? PHILLIP, David, farmer, bach., Llanboidy, CMN. 1802, February 6. At Ll. Elizabeth Griffith. (A.,B. 24/181.) Source: http://www.llgc.org.uk:81/isysquery/irl58d/13/doc (A = Afidaviate, B =bond) National Screen and Sound Archive of Wales: Archives: Marriage bonds (ISYS:web) Index of applicants for marriage licences 1616-1837 http://www.llgc.org.uk/cronfa/cronfa_s001.htm Sorry for all the questions, but I'm new at this in Carmarthenshire and am just getting use to Wales as I've choosen this block in my line to work on a couple months ago. I've order the films for the 41 and 51 census for Haverfordwest to see if I can find them there. I haven't found them in any census (1861, 1871, 1881) yet. Fred Seamons, researching George Duggan Gibbs' wife, Ellen Phillips of Haverfordwest, Wales

Gillie , I meant a marriage certificate for him and his wife.......that will give you his fathers name......work around the year the first child was born, you could request that from the Registry office in Carmarthen......nicer name to try to locate.....!! I am currently indexing Carmarthen St Peters baptisms, but only have to 1823 .......waiting on more..!! I have a baptism in Newchurch for Nathaniel Thomas but it is only an index.....looks like the one from 1851 1830 21 March Newchurch PC Nathaniel Thomas son thomas and Esther I have a marriage for him - so don't think he is yours 1861 12th Oct Newchurch PC Nathaniel Thomas and Margaret Griffiths.... your Nathaniel was having children by the early 1850's...... I have a 30 year old, I'll try him.....Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gillie Ewart" <gillie.ewart@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas > No I have not purchased a certificate, as he was born before 1837 I didn't > think you could! There are 6 servants on the 1881 census living with > Nathaniel Thomas who is 54, this makes him born in 1827?? > > If I go to the records office in Carmarthen shire where would I start > looking? > > Gillie > http://groups.msn.com/Magicalminiatures/pictures or > http://gillie1945.tripod.com > http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/gillie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas > > >> Gillie, Have you purchased or found a marriage certificate for Nathaniel >> Thomas to show who his father is......I cannot find a 24 year old - there >> are only 6 Nathaniel Thomas is my database, the closest in age is a 21 >> year old.......living and born in Newchurch father Thomas thomas aged 68 >> farmer 130 acres , mother Esther Thomas aged 54, Nathaniel Thomas aged 21 >> employed on the farm and 6 servants. > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list >

Hi Peggy Glad that you have solved one of your questions....... regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Burroughs" <peggyburroughs@cox.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > Thanks, Pauline. That answers one of my questions. I thought it was in > Breconshire, but I kept seeing it listed in Carmarthenshire. I didn't > know > there were two. The marriage certificate I have says Brecon on it, so I > guess that's the one I need. > > Peggy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:15 AM > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > > Peggy > > Although we specialise in the Llanelly area, we have baptisms for the > parish > > church from the beginning of the records about 1684 ish to > 1834.....burials > to 1847 (ongoing project) and marriages to 1837....... > > There are the voters lists for Llanelly 1833, Llanelly directory > 1897.......plus 1841 and 1851 Llanelly indexed too........ > > There is also a Llanelly in Breconshire - are you sure that it is the > Llanelly/i in Carmarthenshire that you require... > > Pauline > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Burroughs" <peggyburroughs@cox.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:04 PM > Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > > >> Pauline, >> >> I am researching the Llanelly parish which I believe is in >> Carmarthenshire. >> Would parish records for the Llanelly parish church be available to me as >> a >> member of your society? >> >> Peggy >> Virginia, USA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:31 AM >> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions >> >> Hi Adrian >> >> If you have a query you do not have to be a member of CFHS, as you and I >> know you have been a subscriber for a long time, you can just ask your >> question and if I or anyone else have an answer for you, will answer you, >> that is what this list is for. >> >> The members list as you say is for members only, but I must say that most >> of >> >> CFHS members are subscribers to this list too, only a small majority are >> not. >> >> On the members list we have 'fun' as some people get offended if they see >> a >> recipe on a subscriber list, whereas on the members only we can help each >> other in any way we wish, we are a friendly bunch and quite a few of us >> have >> >> made contact this year. After years of running these lists I made >> contact >> with a cousin this year.....our great grandmothers were sisters, so I was >> very pleased about that... >> >> I think we are one of the very few Societies that members can just click >> on >> their button and there is help at hand.....as you know we are solely on >> the >> internet nothing else. >> >> This year we have on-line indexes which everyone thinks is great as they >> can >> >> now search all our indexes online themselves....members got together this >> year and 1841 census for Carmarthenshire is near completion after just a >> couple of months transcribing, its been brilliant!!!. 1851 was completed >> this year too.... >> >> So don't feel that you are missing out, just ask a question and we'll see >> if >> >> we can answer it. >> >> As one lister stated today this list is nowhere near as busy as it used >> to >> be, but if people do not ask questions there will be no traffic on these >> lists.... >> >> Thanks Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing >> >> >>> Richard >>> >>> I am somewhat surprised (although I have been aware of the situation for >>> a >>> long while) that there are two Carmarthenshire lists one of which is >>> exclusively for CFHS members. I have not come across a similar situation >>> in >>> any other area. >>> >>> There must be a considerable numbers of researchers like myself whose >>> forebears came from 10 or more counties thus making it impractical to >>> belong >>> to so many family history societies. >>> >>> By having a list exclusively for members, particularly where there is >>> more >>> traffic on that list than on the "open" one, must mean that many people >>> miss >>> out on queries/answers. >>> >>> Adrian >>> Yorkshire >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "richardjames" <richardjames@wales-genealogy.co.uk> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: 01 October 2005 23:59 >>> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing >>> >>> >>>> Hi All Subscribers >>>> It is a fact that all Rootsweb lists are now prone to lack of messages; >>>> probably due to the fact that there is a lot more information available >>>> to >>>> access on the web, subscribers do not require lookups etc, but can find >>> the >>>> information more readily available online. >>>> For instance in August 2005, Dyfed [3 counties] had 69 messages. >>>> Carmarthenshire-L had 164 [ double the amount of Dyfed] >>>> Carmarthenshire-FHS had [410 messages] >>>> Probably because the more subscribers per list get a better service or >>> more >>>> information per list and/or more enthusiasm on the list, >>>> I would have thought that Dyfed probably has more subscribers than >>>> Carmarthenshire-FHS because it is open to the public. Whereas >>>> Carmarthenshire-FHS is a members only list >>>> Any thoughts please? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Richard James >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: >>>> 30/09/05 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >>> questions & Quiries. >>> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Gillie I should have mentioned that was from 1851 Census Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas > Gillie, Have you purchased or found a marriage certificate for Nathaniel > Thomas to show who his father is......I cannot find a 24 year old - there > are only 6 Nathaniel Thomas is my database, the closest in age is a 21 > year old.......living and born in Newchurch father Thomas thomas aged 68 > farmer 130 acres , mother Esther Thomas aged 54, Nathaniel Thomas aged 21 > employed on the farm and 6 servants. > > There was only a 70 year old Nathaniel Thomas born in St Peters > Carmarthen.......in my database anyway > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gillie Ewart" <gillie.ewart@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas > > >>I am looking for two families. Not connected at all except by marriage! >> >> The first is my great grandfather DAVID EVANS who married MARY JONES and >> had a son THOMAS, they lived near Court Henry on a farm My grandfather >> Thomas was born IN 1861. We do not know any dates for David or Mary or >> where they were married. >> >> The other family is my husband's. >> >> His grandfather DAVID VIVIAN DUDLEY THOMAS's family was as follows: >> >> Emma has been a terrific help and found the following: >> 1881 census At Maesyprior, Carmarthen >> Nathaniel Thomas, head, marr., 54, farmer, farming 250 acres, b. St. >> Peter's, Carms. >> Anne Thomas, wife, >> marr.,........56,........................................b. Abergwilli, >> Carms. >> Thomas Thomas, son, single,.....27, farmer's son,....................b. >> St. Peter's, Carms. >> David Thomas, son, single,........25, auctioneer, surveyor,.........b. >> St. Peter's, Carms. >> Richard Thomas, son, single,......23, farmer's son,....................b. >> St. Peter's, Carms. >> John Thomas, son, single,...........19, farmer's >> son,...................b. St. Peter's, Carms. >> >> David Vivian Dudley Thomas in census of 1891. >> >> At Furnace House, Carmarthen Town on either King Street or St. Peter's >> Street >> >> David Thomas, head, married, 35, land agent's surveyor, born, Carmarthen, >> Carmarthenshire >> Helena Thomas, wife, married, 35,.................................... >> born, Denbigh, Denbighshire >> DVD Thomas, >> son,....................2,.......................................born, >> Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire >> >> Can anyone go any further back? >> >> Gillie >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

Peggy Although we specialise in the Llanelly area, we have baptisms for the parish church from the beginning of the records about 1684 ish to 1834.....burials to 1847 (ongoing project) and marriages to 1837....... There are the voters lists for Llanelly 1833, Llanelly directory 1897.......plus 1841 and 1851 Llanelly indexed too........ There is also a Llanelly in Breconshire - are you sure that it is the Llanelly/i in Carmarthenshire that you require... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Burroughs" <peggyburroughs@cox.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > Pauline, > > I am researching the Llanelly parish which I believe is in > Carmarthenshire. > Would parish records for the Llanelly parish church be available to me as > a > member of your society? > > Peggy > Virginia, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:31 AM > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > > Hi Adrian > > If you have a query you do not have to be a member of CFHS, as you and I > know you have been a subscriber for a long time, you can just ask your > question and if I or anyone else have an answer for you, will answer you, > that is what this list is for. > > The members list as you say is for members only, but I must say that most > of > > CFHS members are subscribers to this list too, only a small majority are > not. > > On the members list we have 'fun' as some people get offended if they see > a > recipe on a subscriber list, whereas on the members only we can help each > other in any way we wish, we are a friendly bunch and quite a few of us > have > > made contact this year. After years of running these lists I made contact > with a cousin this year.....our great grandmothers were sisters, so I was > very pleased about that... > > I think we are one of the very few Societies that members can just click > on > their button and there is help at hand.....as you know we are solely on > the > internet nothing else. > > This year we have on-line indexes which everyone thinks is great as they > can > > now search all our indexes online themselves....members got together this > year and 1841 census for Carmarthenshire is near completion after just a > couple of months transcribing, its been brilliant!!!. 1851 was completed > this year too.... > > So don't feel that you are missing out, just ask a question and we'll see > if > > we can answer it. > > As one lister stated today this list is nowhere near as busy as it used to > be, but if people do not ask questions there will be no traffic on these > lists.... > > Thanks Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > > >> Richard >> >> I am somewhat surprised (although I have been aware of the situation for >> a >> long while) that there are two Carmarthenshire lists one of which is >> exclusively for CFHS members. I have not come across a similar situation >> in >> any other area. >> >> There must be a considerable numbers of researchers like myself whose >> forebears came from 10 or more counties thus making it impractical to >> belong >> to so many family history societies. >> >> By having a list exclusively for members, particularly where there is >> more >> traffic on that list than on the "open" one, must mean that many people >> miss >> out on queries/answers. >> >> Adrian >> Yorkshire >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "richardjames" <richardjames@wales-genealogy.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 01 October 2005 23:59 >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing >> >> >>> Hi All Subscribers >>> It is a fact that all Rootsweb lists are now prone to lack of messages; >>> probably due to the fact that there is a lot more information available >>> to >>> access on the web, subscribers do not require lookups etc, but can find >> the >>> information more readily available online. >>> For instance in August 2005, Dyfed [3 counties] had 69 messages. >>> Carmarthenshire-L had 164 [ double the amount of Dyfed] >>> Carmarthenshire-FHS had [410 messages] >>> Probably because the more subscribers per list get a better service or >> more >>> information per list and/or more enthusiasm on the list, >>> I would have thought that Dyfed probably has more subscribers than >>> Carmarthenshire-FHS because it is open to the public. Whereas >>> Carmarthenshire-FHS is a members only list >>> Any thoughts please? >>> >>> Regards >>> Richard James >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/05 >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Gillie, Have you purchased or found a marriage certificate for Nathaniel Thomas to show who his father is......I cannot find a 24 year old - there are only 6 Nathaniel Thomas is my database, the closest in age is a 21 year old.......living and born in Newchurch father Thomas thomas aged 68 farmer 130 acres , mother Esther Thomas aged 54, Nathaniel Thomas aged 21 employed on the farm and 6 servants. There was only a 70 year old Nathaniel Thomas born in St Peters Carmarthen.......in my database anyway Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gillie Ewart" <gillie.ewart@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas >I am looking for two families. Not connected at all except by marriage! > > The first is my great grandfather DAVID EVANS who married MARY JONES and > had a son THOMAS, they lived near Court Henry on a farm My grandfather > Thomas was born IN 1861. We do not know any dates for David or Mary or > where they were married. > > The other family is my husband's. > > His grandfather DAVID VIVIAN DUDLEY THOMAS's family was as follows: > > Emma has been a terrific help and found the following: > 1881 census At Maesyprior, Carmarthen > Nathaniel Thomas, head, marr., 54, farmer, farming 250 acres, b. St. > Peter's, Carms. > Anne Thomas, wife, > marr.,........56,........................................b. Abergwilli, > Carms. > Thomas Thomas, son, single,.....27, farmer's son,....................b. > St. Peter's, Carms. > David Thomas, son, single,........25, auctioneer, surveyor,.........b. St. > Peter's, Carms. > Richard Thomas, son, single,......23, farmer's son,....................b. > St. Peter's, Carms. > John Thomas, son, single,...........19, farmer's son,...................b. > St. Peter's, Carms. > > David Vivian Dudley Thomas in census of 1891. > > At Furnace House, Carmarthen Town on either King Street or St. Peter's > Street > > David Thomas, head, married, 35, land agent's surveyor, born, Carmarthen, > Carmarthenshire > Helena Thomas, wife, married, 35,.................................... > born, Denbigh, Denbighshire > DVD Thomas, > son,....................2,.......................................born, > Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire > > Can anyone go any further back? > > Gillie > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

No I have not purchased a certificate, as he was born before 1837 I didn't think you could! There are 6 servants on the 1881 census living with Nathaniel Thomas who is 54, this makes him born in 1827?? If I go to the records office in Carmarthen shire where would I start looking? Gillie http://groups.msn.com/Magicalminiatures/pictures or http://gillie1945.tripod.com http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/gillie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas > Gillie, Have you purchased or found a marriage certificate for Nathaniel > Thomas to show who his father is......I cannot find a 24 year old - there > are only 6 Nathaniel Thomas is my database, the closest in age is a 21 > year old.......living and born in Newchurch father Thomas thomas aged 68 > farmer 130 acres , mother Esther Thomas aged 54, Nathaniel Thomas aged 21 > employed on the farm and 6 servants.

Thanks, Pauline. That answers one of my questions. I thought it was in Breconshire, but I kept seeing it listed in Carmarthenshire. I didn't know there were two. The marriage certificate I have says Brecon on it, so I guess that's the one I need. Peggy -----Original Message----- From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:15 AM To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions Peggy Although we specialise in the Llanelly area, we have baptisms for the parish church from the beginning of the records about 1684 ish to 1834.....burials to 1847 (ongoing project) and marriages to 1837....... There are the voters lists for Llanelly 1833, Llanelly directory 1897.......plus 1841 and 1851 Llanelly indexed too........ There is also a Llanelly in Breconshire - are you sure that it is the Llanelly/i in Carmarthenshire that you require... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Burroughs" <peggyburroughs@cox.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > Pauline, > > I am researching the Llanelly parish which I believe is in > Carmarthenshire. > Would parish records for the Llanelly parish church be available to me as > a > member of your society? > > Peggy > Virginia, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:31 AM > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions > > Hi Adrian > > If you have a query you do not have to be a member of CFHS, as you and I > know you have been a subscriber for a long time, you can just ask your > question and if I or anyone else have an answer for you, will answer you, > that is what this list is for. > > The members list as you say is for members only, but I must say that most > of > > CFHS members are subscribers to this list too, only a small majority are > not. > > On the members list we have 'fun' as some people get offended if they see > a > recipe on a subscriber list, whereas on the members only we can help each > other in any way we wish, we are a friendly bunch and quite a few of us > have > > made contact this year. After years of running these lists I made contact > with a cousin this year.....our great grandmothers were sisters, so I was > very pleased about that... > > I think we are one of the very few Societies that members can just click > on > their button and there is help at hand.....as you know we are solely on > the > internet nothing else. > > This year we have on-line indexes which everyone thinks is great as they > can > > now search all our indexes online themselves....members got together this > year and 1841 census for Carmarthenshire is near completion after just a > couple of months transcribing, its been brilliant!!!. 1851 was completed > this year too.... > > So don't feel that you are missing out, just ask a question and we'll see > if > > we can answer it. > > As one lister stated today this list is nowhere near as busy as it used to > be, but if people do not ask questions there will be no traffic on these > lists.... > > Thanks Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > > >> Richard >> >> I am somewhat surprised (although I have been aware of the situation for >> a >> long while) that there are two Carmarthenshire lists one of which is >> exclusively for CFHS members. I have not come across a similar situation >> in >> any other area. >> >> There must be a considerable numbers of researchers like myself whose >> forebears came from 10 or more counties thus making it impractical to >> belong >> to so many family history societies. >> >> By having a list exclusively for members, particularly where there is >> more >> traffic on that list than on the "open" one, must mean that many people >> miss >> out on queries/answers. >> >> Adrian >> Yorkshire >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "richardjames" <richardjames@wales-genealogy.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 01 October 2005 23:59 >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing >> >> >>> Hi All Subscribers >>> It is a fact that all Rootsweb lists are now prone to lack of messages; >>> probably due to the fact that there is a lot more information available >>> to >>> access on the web, subscribers do not require lookups etc, but can find >> the >>> information more readily available online. >>> For instance in August 2005, Dyfed [3 counties] had 69 messages. >>> Carmarthenshire-L had 164 [ double the amount of Dyfed] >>> Carmarthenshire-FHS had [410 messages] >>> Probably because the more subscribers per list get a better service or >> more >>> information per list and/or more enthusiasm on the list, >>> I would have thought that Dyfed probably has more subscribers than >>> Carmarthenshire-FHS because it is open to the public. Whereas >>> Carmarthenshire-FHS is a members only list >>> Any thoughts please? >>> >>> Regards >>> Richard James >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/05 >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk

Pauline, I am researching the Llanelly parish which I believe is in Carmarthenshire. Would parish records for the Llanelly parish church be available to me as a member of your society? Peggy Virginia, USA -----Original Message----- From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:31 AM To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Subscribers to lists and questions Hi Adrian If you have a query you do not have to be a member of CFHS, as you and I know you have been a subscriber for a long time, you can just ask your question and if I or anyone else have an answer for you, will answer you, that is what this list is for. The members list as you say is for members only, but I must say that most of CFHS members are subscribers to this list too, only a small majority are not. On the members list we have 'fun' as some people get offended if they see a recipe on a subscriber list, whereas on the members only we can help each other in any way we wish, we are a friendly bunch and quite a few of us have made contact this year. After years of running these lists I made contact with a cousin this year.....our great grandmothers were sisters, so I was very pleased about that... I think we are one of the very few Societies that members can just click on their button and there is help at hand.....as you know we are solely on the internet nothing else. This year we have on-line indexes which everyone thinks is great as they can now search all our indexes online themselves....members got together this year and 1841 census for Carmarthenshire is near completion after just a couple of months transcribing, its been brilliant!!!. 1851 was completed this year too.... So don't feel that you are missing out, just ask a question and we'll see if we can answer it. As one lister stated today this list is nowhere near as busy as it used to be, but if people do not ask questions there will be no traffic on these lists.... Thanks Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > Richard > > I am somewhat surprised (although I have been aware of the situation for a > long while) that there are two Carmarthenshire lists one of which is > exclusively for CFHS members. I have not come across a similar situation > in > any other area. > > There must be a considerable numbers of researchers like myself whose > forebears came from 10 or more counties thus making it impractical to > belong > to so many family history societies. > > By having a list exclusively for members, particularly where there is more > traffic on that list than on the "open" one, must mean that many people > miss > out on queries/answers. > > Adrian > Yorkshire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richardjames" <richardjames@wales-genealogy.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 01 October 2005 23:59 > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] testing > > >> Hi All Subscribers >> It is a fact that all Rootsweb lists are now prone to lack of messages; >> probably due to the fact that there is a lot more information available >> to >> access on the web, subscribers do not require lookups etc, but can find > the >> information more readily available online. >> For instance in August 2005, Dyfed [3 counties] had 69 messages. >> Carmarthenshire-L had 164 [ double the amount of Dyfed] >> Carmarthenshire-FHS had [410 messages] >> Probably because the more subscribers per list get a better service or > more >> information per list and/or more enthusiasm on the list, >> I would have thought that Dyfed probably has more subscribers than >> Carmarthenshire-FHS because it is open to the public. Whereas >> Carmarthenshire-FHS is a members only list >> Any thoughts please? >> >> Regards >> Richard James > > No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/05 >> >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk

I am looking for two families. Not connected at all except by marriage! The first is my great grandfather DAVID EVANS who married MARY JONES and had a son THOMAS, they lived near Court Henry on a farm My grandfather Thomas was born IN 1861. We do not know any dates for David or Mary or where they were married. The other family is my husband's. His grandfather DAVID VIVIAN DUDLEY THOMAS's family was as follows: Emma has been a terrific help and found the following: 1881 census At Maesyprior, Carmarthen Nathaniel Thomas, head, marr., 54, farmer, farming 250 acres, b. St. Peter's, Carms. Anne Thomas, wife, marr.,........56,........................................b. Abergwilli, Carms. Thomas Thomas, son, single,.....27, farmer's son,....................b. St. Peter's, Carms. David Thomas, son, single,........25, auctioneer, surveyor,.........b. St. Peter's, Carms. Richard Thomas, son, single,......23, farmer's son,....................b. St. Peter's, Carms. John Thomas, son, single,...........19, farmer's son,...................b. St. Peter's, Carms. David Vivian Dudley Thomas in census of 1891. At Furnace House, Carmarthen Town on either King Street or St. Peter's Street David Thomas, head, married, 35, land agent's surveyor, born, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire Helena Thomas, wife, married, 35,.................................... born, Denbigh, Denbighshire DVD Thomas, son,....................2,.......................................born, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire Can anyone go any further back? Gillie

Hi Bill Yes the list has gone quiet and nice that it has been woken up.......I have been asking subscribers if they have any questions or does anyone need help, but no response really. Remind us what and who you were looking for...... Lots of the 'active' people, by that I mean the ones who answer queries and like to get involved etc have been busy indexing......so that is probably why .......they took on a big project with transcribing 1841, I in turn have been checking them as they come in, so it has been a bit hectic.....plus the summer months are the quietest as most like to make the most of the sunshine.....unless you live 'down under' that is!!! resend Bill...... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <Taffywilliam@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:20 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Quiet list - lookup please > Glad to see the site come to life. Recently searched my old sent mail from > July to date and other than an occasional reply from Pauline, most queries > have > gone unanswered. I added several new Surnames to the listings for > Llanfairarbryn and nary one response. Possibly other listers do not have > same surnames > in common but it is frustrating when requests have no responses. Bill in > Ohio > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi Lyn Do you know who his father is from the marriage you have, he may or may not be at home......you need something extra than his name..... We do not do look-ups from 1841 Carms census index......that is an ongoing project that is goiing to be online for members of CFHS only. regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "PR & LS Taylor" <ptaylor@esat.net.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > Hello Pauline > > All I know about William POWELL is he was born around 1828 and was married > in Tasmania in 1853. He could have still been in Wales in 1851. > > I am trying to find the missing link to connect him to the famous murdered > William POWELL of Carmarnthen. > > Regards > > Lyn > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > > >> Lyn, I have looked in 1851 there are only 34 William Powel/l's there are >> a few with similar ages, do you have an occupation or anything extra on >> him... >> >> >> Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "PR & LS Taylor" <ptaylor@esat.net.au> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >> >> >>> Hello Pauline >>> >>> I understand the 1841 census will soon be available to search online. >>> I need to look for my William POWELL, born around 1828, on the 1841 >>> census for Wales to see where he was born and who his parents were. Any >>> tips on where and how to search would be appreciated. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Lyn Taylor >>> West Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >>> >>> >>>> Thanks Pat, yes, rest your arm and take it easy.....Perhaps the >>>> indexing is causing the problems......bad neck I get ..... >>>> >>>> It is Llanboidy 1841 you are doing, not many parishes to go now, its >>>> been wonderful..... >>>> >>>> We didn't think that both 1841 and 1851 would be finished so close >>>> together, being as 1851 took close to 5 years!!!1841 is only taking a >>>> couple of months......many hands make light work.. >>>> >>>> Thanks Pat, take it easy speak soon Pauline >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:00 PM >>>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Pauline & all, >>>>> >>>>> Just to say I'm still here - but being a bit quiet as I seem to have >>>>> developed aches and pains in my right arm - possibly from too much >>>>> keyboard work!! >>>>> >>>>> So I am trying not to do too much at the moment - just short bursts. >>>>> >>>>> I don't want it to become a chronic condition - I did have a bit of a >>>>> problem some years ago when I was working from home , and found a bit >>>>> of >>>>> "resting up" did the trick. >>>>> >>>>> So If I see a query I can answer easily I do - but otherwise I am >>>>> rationing things to completing the indexing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Will be back chatting soon. >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In message <006a01c5c731$5c581ad0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >>>>> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>>>>Hi Bernard >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes, you are correct, it is nowhere near as busy, I have tried a few >>>>>>times >>>>>>to 'wake' people up, but no-one seems to respond anymore......do not >>>>>>know >>>>>>why... >>>>>> >>>>>>Pauline >>>>> -- >>>>> Pat Powell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you >>>> cannot find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the >>>> name of the Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Hello Pauline All I know about William POWELL is he was born around 1828 and was married in Tasmania in 1853. He could have still been in Wales in 1851. I am trying to find the missing link to connect him to the famous murdered William POWELL of Carmarnthen. Regards Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > Lyn, I have looked in 1851 there are only 34 William Powel/l's there are a > few with similar ages, do you have an occupation or anything extra on > him... > > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PR & LS Taylor" <ptaylor@esat.net.au> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list > > >> Hello Pauline >> >> I understand the 1841 census will soon be available to search online. I >> need to look for my William POWELL, born around 1828, on the 1841 census >> for Wales to see where he was born and who his parents were. Any tips on >> where and how to search would be appreciated. >> >> Regards >> >> Lyn Taylor >> West Australia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >> >> >>> Thanks Pat, yes, rest your arm and take it easy.....Perhaps the indexing >>> is causing the problems......bad neck I get ..... >>> >>> It is Llanboidy 1841 you are doing, not many parishes to go now, its >>> been wonderful..... >>> >>> We didn't think that both 1841 and 1851 would be finished so close >>> together, being as 1851 took close to 5 years!!!1841 is only taking a >>> couple of months......many hands make light work.. >>> >>> Thanks Pat, take it easy speak soon Pauline >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:00 PM >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Re quiet list >>> >>> >>>> Hi Pauline & all, >>>> >>>> Just to say I'm still here - but being a bit quiet as I seem to have >>>> developed aches and pains in my right arm - possibly from too much >>>> keyboard work!! >>>> >>>> So I am trying not to do too much at the moment - just short bursts. >>>> >>>> I don't want it to become a chronic condition - I did have a bit of a >>>> problem some years ago when I was working from home , and found a bit >>>> of >>>> "resting up" did the trick. >>>> >>>> So If I see a query I can answer easily I do - but otherwise I am >>>> rationing things to completing the indexing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Will be back chatting soon. >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In message <006a01c5c731$5c581ad0$6602a8c0@carmarthen>, Pauline James >>>> <paulinejames@onvol.net> writes >>>>>Hi Bernard >>>>> >>>>>Yes, you are correct, it is nowhere near as busy, I have tried a few >>>>>times >>>>>to 'wake' people up, but no-one seems to respond anymore......do not >>>>>know >>>>>why... >>>>> >>>>>Pauline >>>> -- >>>> Pat Powell >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >>> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >>> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > >

Liz, I have two possible marriages for an Edward Robert and Elizabeth Llanelly parish church 20th Feb 1824 Edward Robert and Elizabeth Powell Llanelly parish church 9th Jan 1825 Edward Robert and Elizabeth Shambrook you need to purchase the birth certificate of the son David who was born after civil registration to locate the correct marriage.. The other Edward Robert in 1851 aged 50 had a daughter Elizabeth aged 12, so I discounted that one......he was a mariner. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Rees" <Liz.Rees@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Quiet list - lookup please > Hello all > > I sent this request in a short while ago but there was no response. If > everyone's looking for something to do, perhaps someone would be kind > enough > to check for me. > > I'm looking for my great-grandmother Elizabeth Roberts and her family in > the > 1851 census > > She was born about 1832 in Llanelly (from age given in 1881 census) and I > see there are 4 possibles in the Llanelli index on the Carmarthenshire FHS > website, aged 23, 18 (perhaps the most likely), and two aged 17. > > However, I know her father's name was Edward, and there are only two > possibles there; one aged 50 and one aged 51. > > Hopefully one of these entries will tie up! > > Best wishes > > Liz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:CARMARTHENSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 02 October 2005 16:20 > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: CARMARTHENSHIRE-D Digest V05 #327 > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >