Gwenda, for some reason, which may forever remain a mystery, the greeting at the end of your note about inserting a circumflex, came through here in the Cyrillic letters VKFbl. Pauline you said your ancestor remained "in service". Does that mean she was a domestic? To Americans "service" means military service. Joe Gregory Pvt. U.S. Army (Ret.) Mt. Top, Penna.

Hi All I am trying to locate the birth record of a Levi Phillips born circa 1836 in Tenby and his wife Eliza, same details. I had no luck on the 1851 census and am a bit stuck as to what to do next. Regards Paul phillips

Twas a dark and stormy night, I was glad I wasn't out there. A night not fit for man nor beast, I slept without a care. But I awoke at three A.M., the snow was snowing hard, I felt a little queasy, but "TY Bach" was down the yard. I debated, thought and puzzled over what, oh what to do. I climbed from bed, climbed in again, and climbed back out anew. I looked out of the window, the snow had slowed a bit, Nature called, I'd better go and make the best of it. The moon came out and so I thought I'd better brave the weather. Throwing on an overcoat, scarf, my boots a hat, ....whatever The path I shoveled hours before had filled in rather quickly But go I must, my stomach turned, I never felt so sickly. At last I was inside the hut, hat and coat hung on the nail, Inside the coat's left pocket, one match, it lit, doomed if it should fail. I lit the scented candle, last year' s Christmas present, Outside the wind was howling, snow blew in through the crescent. Sitting quietly, reading catalogues that came to us last year, The wind was blowing snow about, the whistling I could hear. The candle flickered, I strained my eyes the candle's light was pale. I sat and read of marvelous stuff from last years springtimer sale. As I read about the stuff that every farmer needs, relief come over me, The demon died inside of me, oh sweet sweet victory. I felt as good as new so I prepared to leave, to end this pre-dawn caper Shock and Dismay! The catalog was printed on.... the FINEST SMOOTHEST PAPER. Joe Gregory Circumflexible in Mt. Top, Penna.

I wonder if anyone can help. I am looking for my Bassett family on the 1861 census, but can't find at all. The family consists of Daniel and Catherine Bassett, and their children Elizabeth,Ann, Daniel, William and Leah, may be more. They could be in Abersychan, Pontypool or Stoke on Trent, England, also Daniel and Frances Bassett, who may still be in Wales. Would appreciate any help at all. TIA Lilian

Helen perhaps since the "School House" is in English, in the next census taker may have translated Cwrt y Cadno, which in English is "FOX COURT". Joe Gregory Out Foxed in Mt. Top, Penna. Can SKS please help? I have found out that in 1874, a relative was born at "School House, Cwrt y Cadno, Conwil Caio. I know there stands today an old building called the school house but as this was a place of birth - I tried to trace on 1871 Census but cannot find. Have only so far gone through Caio, but will look at remaining places.

Hi again Helen - I meant to say to you that I had forgotten the difficulties of the ancestry.com transcriptions. I know it is difficult for them to transcribe welsh place names (given my own attempts!!) but you do have to have a very vivid imagination to try to find the right person given some of the transcriptions of the place names. Pauline's suggestion of the 1851 is a good idea as it was transcribed by a welsh person!! Also try to get the birth cert as you will know for certain where Mary Davies was born. best wishes Diana

Hello Helen - no problem. I have sent them off list to you. best wishes Diana

Hi Diana, Thanks for all your help. I have the family on the 1851 and 1861, but by 1871 Mary was missing. I want to try and find her 1871,1881 not just to fill in spaces, but as it seems she may be the mother of the relative I'm researching. Finding where she was might pin point the father, who is not on the census and also see where she was and going. I have contacted Registry Office already for the certificate of her birth as I know date and that she was born in Caio, probably Cwrt y Cadno. Regards Helen

Rhodri, Thanks - I laughed when I saw Ty Bach because it's one of the very few words I do know in Welsh and used for toilet as a young girl!!! My dear grandmother always laughed and said say this Helen 'toch dean bob sythe' (mind the spelling) and whilst recently in Caio, said it to locals in the pub who informed me of the full sentence and laughed! Happy Memories. Regards Helen

A little ditty. The Welsh for small is bach pronunciation as the surname of the Austrian composer Johann Sebastian Bach. Amalgamate the Welsh word for house Ty with Bach and you get "Ty Bach" i.e. small house which is the slang word for a toilet. Hope this helps you to remember the Welsh for house. Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: HMC001@aol.com [mailto:HMC001@aol.com] Sent: 17 October 2005 22:35 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Translation Rhodri Thank you for that! Regards Helen ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

School in Welsh is Ysgol actually similar to the French Ecole. House in Welsh is Ty [pronounced as in the drink "tea"] Thus: Ty Ysgol [tea uh_ss_gol]: doubt if school house would be in Welsh! Rhodri -----Original Message----- From: HMC001@aol.com [mailto:HMC001@aol.com] Sent: 17 October 2005 20:41 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] Translation Hello, Can SKS please help? I have found out that in 1874, a relative was born at "School House, Cwrt y Cadno, Conwil Caio. I know there stands today an old building called the school house but as this was a place of birth - I tried to trace on 1871 Census but cannot find. Have only so far gone through Caio, but will look at remaining places. However, out of curiousity and just in case, what is School House in Welsh, just in case it was in written in welsh on the Census? Many thanks Helen ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this message has not been received by the intended recipient; please delete it from your system and inform: mailmaster@rhod.net thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Helen, have you found her in 1851 census.......I can check 1851 but not 1861.......quite a few Mary Davies in conwil Caio born c1846 Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <HMC001@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] 1861 Lookup please > Hello, > > Is it poss. if SKS could lookup the following on 1861 census? > > Looking for a Mary Davies aged 16. Was born circa 1845. > Already have details of her family from SKS, living at Maesynhardd, Caio, > but Mary is missing. She would have been around somewhere - didn't like > to ask > direct again. > > Many thanks > > Helen > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Thanks Julia for this information its very kind of you to share......... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: <RBMaine1@aol.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] ST. MARTINS CHURCH. LAUGHARNE #2 info by Iola E. Evans. > THE LYCH GATE. Entrance to church yard, > Presented to the church 1913 by Miss WIENHOLT, of well known Laugharne > family. > > FOX-TREE. > The yew tree nearest the church porch, called the "Fox-tree" was used to > hang the heads of > vermin and predatory animals, such as pole-cats and foxes. > A fixed rate was paid for each animal, the heads were attached to the tree > for three successive Sundays, after which the "catcher" was paid. > Entry in the Parish records 1745 states "DAVID HARRIS son for killing an > owl-paid 2 pence" > This practice of payment continued until the latter half of the nineteenth > century. > > THE PORCH. > On the south-west wall is a worn faded stone, a memorial to a SARAH BAILEY > and her eight children > who died of the plague during the seventeenth century > > ONE OF THE OLDEST MEMORIAL STONE. > Set in the East wall of the porch, > It says "here lieth the body of KATTRIN SAER who died 1690." She was > probably > the wife of Sir THOMAS SAER, Portreeve of Laugharne in 1661. > > GREY STONE > On the South wall of the porch is a square, grey stone which says. > "Here lyeth the body of ELIZAB: BYON wife of WILL: BYON and daughter to > HEN: > BAYLY of ye town of Laugharn who dyed Dece; the 13 of June 1679. age 37 > yeares. > > INNER WOOD PORCH. > In memory of E. V. WILLIAMS, organist and choirmaster of St. Martins > 1920-1964 > > WOOD CARVING, DEPICTING ST. MARTIN of TOURS. > The carving was fashioned by one of the LANG family and was brought from > Oberammergau in 1866. > LANG family being of Oberammergau. > > 1873. RESTORATION WORK ON CHURCH. > The work was carried out by local craftsmen, namely JOHN HUGH, THOMAS > DAVID, > and RICHARD BROOKS. > > GREAT WEST WINDOW. > Dedicated to the memory of WILLIAM NORTON. > Restored 1956 in memory of Chancellor S. B. WILLIAMS. > > PALMER'S AISLE > Named after the PALMER family who played a great part in the > administration > of Laugharne during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. > > CHOIR STALLS. > Installed by PHILLIP BROWN of Laugharne 1855 at a cost of 68 pounds 18 > shillings. > The choir stalls were redesigned and restored in 1975 work done by Mr. > PETER > EVANS of Plashett, Laugharne. > > ORGAN. > The present organ was obtained in 1881, the money for its purchase being > provided by > Admiral JOHN LAUGHARNE, the amount of 300 pounds. > > CHOIR, > 1860 MARTHA WINGROVE made a bequest of 666 pound 13 shilling and 4 pence, > to > provide payment for the choristers and to purchase suitable clothing for > them. > > COMMUNION TABLE FIGURES. > Were paid for by CAPTAIN HARRISION in 1901 in memory of his brother, Rev. > WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON. > 1974 they were restored by the parents of TUDOR EVELYN WILLIAMS > > THE PULPIT, 1925. > Donated in memory of members of the Wienholt family. > > WINDOWS OF THE SOUTH TRANSEPT. > In memory of Fredrick and John Wienholt. > > MEMORIAL TABLET TO THE FALLEN OF THE WORLD WAR. By transept steps. > Presented by Major and Mrs., Congreve in 1922. > > Julia. > Carlsbad. Ca. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hello Helen - I can look up the 1861 for you if you give me the details. Diana

Rhodri Thank you for that! Regards Helen

Hello, Can SKS please help? I have found out that in 1874, a relative was born at "School House, Cwrt y Cadno, Conwil Caio. I know there stands today an old building called the school house but as this was a place of birth - I tried to trace on 1871 Census but cannot find. Have only so far gone through Caio, but will look at remaining places. However, out of curiousity and just in case, what is School House in Welsh, just in case it was in written in welsh on the Census? Many thanks Helen

Hi Pauline, Thanks for offer - yes I have the 1851 Census, and found them. Regards Helen

Hello Diana, Thanks for offering........again! Sorry to be a pest. I am trying to trace the missing daughter of the following (you originally found these for me on 1861), but Mary, the eldest is missing. She would have been about 16 years of age in 1861. Born circa 1845. Details from 1861 of the family were: no. 50 Maesynhardd Benjamin Davies, head, 41, ag. labourer, born Pencarreg, it then lists the remainder of the family. Page 18 no. 82 R.G. 9/4126 If that helps. I was wondering if Mary was on another page. She would have been in Caio working somewhere I reckon. Many thanks, Helen

Hello, Is it poss. if SKS could lookup the following on 1861 census? Looking for a Mary Davies aged 16. Was born circa 1845. Already have details of her family from SKS, living at Maesynhardd, Caio, but Mary is missing. She would have been around somewhere - didn't like to ask direct again. Many thanks Helen

THE LYCH GATE. Entrance to church yard, Presented to the church 1913 by Miss WIENHOLT, of well known Laugharne family. FOX-TREE. The yew tree nearest the church porch, called the "Fox-tree" was used to hang the heads of vermin and predatory animals, such as pole-cats and foxes. A fixed rate was paid for each animal, the heads were attached to the tree for three successive Sundays, after which the "catcher" was paid. Entry in the Parish records 1745 states "DAVID HARRIS son for killing an owl-paid 2 pence" This practice of payment continued until the latter half of the nineteenth century. THE PORCH. On the south-west wall is a worn faded stone, a memorial to a SARAH BAILEY and her eight children who died of the plague during the seventeenth century ONE OF THE OLDEST MEMORIAL STONE. Set in the East wall of the porch, It says "here lieth the body of KATTRIN SAER who died 1690." She was probably the wife of Sir THOMAS SAER, Portreeve of Laugharne in 1661. GREY STONE On the South wall of the porch is a square, grey stone which says. "Here lyeth the body of ELIZAB: BYON wife of WILL: BYON and daughter to HEN: BAYLY of ye town of Laugharn who dyed Dece; the 13 of June 1679. age 37 yeares. INNER WOOD PORCH. In memory of E. V. WILLIAMS, organist and choirmaster of St. Martins 1920-1964 WOOD CARVING, DEPICTING ST. MARTIN of TOURS. The carving was fashioned by one of the LANG family and was brought from Oberammergau in 1866. LANG family being of Oberammergau. 1873. RESTORATION WORK ON CHURCH. The work was carried out by local craftsmen, namely JOHN HUGH, THOMAS DAVID, and RICHARD BROOKS. GREAT WEST WINDOW. Dedicated to the memory of WILLIAM NORTON. Restored 1956 in memory of Chancellor S. B. WILLIAMS. PALMER'S AISLE Named after the PALMER family who played a great part in the administration of Laugharne during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. CHOIR STALLS. Installed by PHILLIP BROWN of Laugharne 1855 at a cost of 68 pounds 18 shillings. The choir stalls were redesigned and restored in 1975 work done by Mr. PETER EVANS of Plashett, Laugharne. ORGAN. The present organ was obtained in 1881, the money for its purchase being provided by Admiral JOHN LAUGHARNE, the amount of 300 pounds. CHOIR, 1860 MARTHA WINGROVE made a bequest of 666 pound 13 shilling and 4 pence, to provide payment for the choristers and to purchase suitable clothing for them. COMMUNION TABLE FIGURES. Were paid for by CAPTAIN HARRISION in 1901 in memory of his brother, Rev. WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON. 1974 they were restored by the parents of TUDOR EVELYN WILLIAMS THE PULPIT, 1925. Donated in memory of members of the Wienholt family. WINDOWS OF THE SOUTH TRANSEPT. In memory of Fredrick and John Wienholt. MEMORIAL TABLET TO THE FALLEN OF THE WORLD WAR. By transept steps. Presented by Major and Mrs., Congreve in 1922. Julia. Carlsbad. Ca.