Hello List, I guess I sent my request to the wrong address, so I'm re- submitting it, I hope that's O K. I'm looking for my grgrandfather, all I know is that he lived in Carmarthenshire, His name was John Rees, I don't know his wife's name, He was born around 1823,probably got married in 1844 or 45. They had three children, Ann born in 1845, Morgan born in 1852, and John, I don't know his birthday. I'm hoping they show up in the 1861 census if they had one. Hope you can help, Thanks for trying, Ronald Rees

forwarded for Nina......sent message before added to accept list.....sorry Paulne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nina Jenkins" <polar77@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Brynamman Electoral Registers >I have checked with both Carmarthen Record Office and the British Library > and it seems that no electoral registers have survived for Brynamman > between > 1898 and 1905 .... unless anyone knows different? Please let me know if > you > do as I am anxious to follow a Brynamman resident (Thomas Jenkins, bn > c1842-43) between those years and there are few other sources. He was not > in > 1901 census, but was probably alive and he was a coal miner, so not a lot > of > help from occupational sources! > > Many thanks > > Nina in London > Researching: Jenkins in Brynamman and David Morgan Lewis in Llanddeusant >

Hi Pauline, The CRO does have registers for Copperworks school. I visited it 2 years ago and found the actual entry for when I started there. I could have spent all day looking at all the interesting items they had, but unfortunately time was against me. Can't wait to return for another look, and the staff were extremely helpful Hope you get this e-mail, as I sent one a while ago and it was returned as a failed e-mail. I haven't had the heart to type it out again(it takes a long time using 2 fingers) Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Copperworks School and Higher Elementary School, Llanelli > HI Nancy > > I do not know if CRO have the registers for the one above.....is that the > Copperworks school by the railway station, thats the only Copperworks I > know in Llanelli......they have produced a book on the school..... > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nevans" <nevans@supanet.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:24 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Copperworks School and Higher Elementary School, Llanelli > > >> Dear Pauline, >> >> Would Carmarthen R.O. also have school registers etc. for the above >> schools? >> >> >> Nancy (England) >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 > >

I notice that your interest is Thoas at Llangeler & Maesteg.I amtrying to trace my grandmothers father John Thomas of Penboyr born approx 1845.They lived at Llangefelach, Swansea but I know he had family in Maesteg or Bryn near Maesteg but cannot trace.I am wondering whether there is a connection.I know his father was Evan Thomas; David

Hello Pat Sorry I forgot to say in previous email I have 1851 cenus for Volks in Fishguard, Nevern, Newport and Steyton. I also have 1841 Cenus details of Volks in Newport, Nevern, Llanwnda and Fishguard. Thanks again Glen Jenkins --- Pat Powell <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Glen > > According to John and Sheila Rowland in their book > "The surnames if > Wales" Volk in Pembrokeshire is the equivalent of > Ffoulkes, Foulkes, > Ffowkes. > > I had a quick look in the Newport district of > Pembrokeshire in the 1841 > census and there are 18 people with surname Volk. > The oldest is Thomas Volk aged 70 a Farmer . > > Are you also interested in census details or just > the list of data you > mentioned? > > If so I can look up other areas of PEM also - but it > would help if you > could give an idea of the particular family you are > interested in. > > There are 97 entries against Pem on the IGI - have > you seen them? > > Some pre 1813 marriages are:- > > Dorothy Volk to Edward Bartley in 1788 in Llanllawer > > Thomas Volk to Ann Eynon in 1793 in Nevern > > Mary Volk to David Francis in 1760 in Llanrhian > > Martha Volk to David Harry in 1764 in Llandeloy > > Rachel Volk to Harry William in 1765 in Llandeloy > > Maria Volk to David Jenkins in 1786 in Whitchurch > > Mary Volk to Peter John in 1750 in St Davids > > Anne Volk to John Phillip in 1787 in Llanwnda > > John Volk to Mary Morgan in 1784 in St Nicholas > > Thomas Volk to Martha Evan in 1763 in Llanrhian > > William Volk to Elizabeth Murrow in 1738 in > Llanrhian > > Mary Volk to John Davies in 1799 in Llangwm > > Mary Volk to Edward Meredith in 1723 in Roch > > Jane Volk to David Morris in 1716 in Haverfordwest > St Mary > > Lettice Volk to Phillip Mullins in 1757 in > Hubberston > > William Volk to Mary John in 1793 in Roch > > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > > > In message > <20051113134937.56984.qmail@web25705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, > Alayne and Glen Jenkins <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > writes > >Hello again > > > >I am interested in obtaining any information on the > >above family name between 1700 and 1837 in > >"Pembrokeshire". > >I understand from the Pembrokeshire lookup exchange > >that lookups are available on this list for the > >following: > >St Davids Diocese Testators Wills Index Database > >1564-1858 > >South & West Wales Marriage Bonds & Fiats Index & > >Abstracts Database 1612-1800 > >Is it possible to do a rare family name like this > for > >these resources. > >I appreciate that this is the "wrong" county for > this > >request but am only following instructions on > above. > > > >Glen Jenkins > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > >To help you stay safe and secure online, we've > developed the all new Yahoo! > >Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > > > > > >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > >http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Susan The 1881 census is available free online at www.familysearch.org Liz -----Original Message----- From: susan holmes [mailto:susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk] Sent: 13 November 2005 17:18 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Re: IGI Records Hi Fred/Pauline Yes, have already traced this one unfortunately this is not the family. The William Morgan(s) b.( similar date to wife) is a Coal Miner with wife Elizabeth (b. 1829 approx) believed to be a mid-wife. Their daughter Elizabeth was born around 1872/73 have been struggling with this one (plus I have been stupid Elizabeth would not be on the Census in 1871 if born in 72/73.) I do know the family did reside on the borders of Brecon for a while on a Farm somewhere! Is there a anyone on the list with a Brecon Census in 1881 or possibly 1871 to see if parents were together at this time, is Llanfihangel Tallyllyn on the Borders. Sorry to be so stupid on the date given. Does anyone have any suggestions as I think William and Elizabeth Morgan(s) moved around a bit so have not been able to trace birth of their daughter. Kind Regards Sue 4204 -----Original Message----- From: Fred Seamons [mailto:fseamons@ubtanet.com] Sent: 12 November 2005 23:39 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: IGI Records Hi, Could the following be your family in the 1881 census? I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if these places are close, but they're the only William and Elizabeth Morgan in Brecon in 1881 Census with daughter Elizabeth I could see. William MORGAN Head M Male 36 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Bookseller & Sawyer Elizabeth MORGAN Wife M Female 34 Cilycwm, Carmarthen, Wales Marget MORGAN Daur Female 13 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Elizabeth MORGAN Daur Female 10 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Samuel MORGAN Son Male 6 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Mary MORGAN Daur Female 3 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Morgan B. MORGAN Son Male 1 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Source Information: Dwelling Smithfield Place Census Place Lower Ystradgynlais, Brecon, Wales Family History Library Film 1342288 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Pece / Folio 5346 / 65 Page 3 Hope this helps, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Holmes" <susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: IGI Records > Hi Pauline > > > > I have found a record with the IGI via LDS in the 1881 Census > > > > Would you be able to do a check on the 1871 census to see if the family > was > there and if any ages - Elizabeth would be 2 approx > > Elizabeth Morgan born: 01 JUN 1873 > > Llanfihangel Tallyllyn, Brecon, Wales > > Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth > > Source Information: > > Batch No C081311 dates 1713-1848 Call No 0104475 Prints Call No: 1238710 > (Film) > > _____ > > > > Our could you tell me how I could get more details on this record. > > > > Would be grateful for some advise on this one. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue > > ______________________________ ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed from this mailing list

Hi Ray, If you come across anyone with the surname of Jeremy, would you made a note of it and let me know. They will be part of my mother's side of the family. Are you in Sydney? I have a seconf cousin there an Ernest Thomas, a Doctor(anaestheisiologist) I never can get htat one 100% correct. He would be about 80-82. Would it be possible to look him up in a directory of Medical professionals. If so where would I look?? Any assistance is greatly appreciated, and let me know if there is anyone in Canada you want to look for!! Cheers Sian W. Jones ________________________________________________________________ Sent via Aserty Enhanced Internet Services, Visit us at http://WWW.ASERTY.COM

Hello Pat Many thanks for the informaton provided. I am looking for particular Volk family. It is that of Ann Volk b.1796 Fishguard who married Henry Thomas Ropemaker on 17 September 1816 Fishguard. Ann died c1835 (date not known). I am particularly interested therefore in Volk/Folk in the Fishguard Llanwnda region. Because it is difficult to obtain baptisms for above for the period and region I am resorting to other sources such as wills, deaths etc and hope to have a process of elimination rather than identification. I have some but not all of the marriages below from the IGI so would be interested in those not on the IGI. Hence my query to you. I have also obtained some details of wills from Bill Griffiths who has been very kind in helping with my Volks research. There are two families which are 'possibles' at the moment one is from Llanstadwell. Ann above could be the sister of James and William Volk who were labourers in Pembs Dockyard. Another 'possibility' is the family of Thomas Volk, Newport. But this is merely conjecture. On the Rowlands equivulent names Ffoulkes, Foulkes, Ffowkes, I am not sure that this is the case for Pembs Volks. Bill Griffiths found a 'Folk ap Ieuan'in the 1613 Munster Rolls. It is more likely to be an old patronym of Flemish origin like Jenkins. For those interested in Haverfordwest I'll mention the information you provided me recently regarding W.D. PHillips who is the author of 'Old Haverfordwest'. There is a file on W.D. Phillips at Pembs RO. Record Reference HDX/1009 but I have not had time to visit there yet to find if there is any genealogical information in the repository. Ann Volk above is his maternal grandmother. In short I am trying to map out these various families to possibly identify Ann's family. Any help would be much appreciated. Glen Jenkins --- Pat Powell <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Glen > > According to John and Sheila Rowland in their book > "The surnames if > Wales" Volk in Pembrokeshire is the equivalent of > Ffoulkes, Foulkes, > Ffowkes. > > I had a quick look in the Newport district of > Pembrokeshire in the 1841 > census and there are 18 people with surname Volk. > The oldest is Thomas Volk aged 70 a Farmer . > > Are you also interested in census details or just > the list of data you > mentioned? > > If so I can look up other areas of PEM also - but it > would help if you > could give an idea of the particular family you are > interested in. > > There are 97 entries against Pem on the IGI - have > you seen them? > > Some pre 1813 marriages are:- > > Dorothy Volk to Edward Bartley in 1788 in Llanllawer > > Thomas Volk to Ann Eynon in 1793 in Nevern > > Mary Volk to David Francis in 1760 in Llanrhian > > Martha Volk to David Harry in 1764 in Llandeloy > > Rachel Volk to Harry William in 1765 in Llandeloy > > Maria Volk to David Jenkins in 1786 in Whitchurch > > Mary Volk to Peter John in 1750 in St Davids > > Anne Volk to John Phillip in 1787 in Llanwnda > > John Volk to Mary Morgan in 1784 in St Nicholas > > Thomas Volk to Martha Evan in 1763 in Llanrhian > > William Volk to Elizabeth Murrow in 1738 in > Llanrhian > > Mary Volk to John Davies in 1799 in Llangwm > > Mary Volk to Edward Meredith in 1723 in Roch > > Jane Volk to David Morris in 1716 in Haverfordwest > St Mary > > Lettice Volk to Phillip Mullins in 1757 in > Hubberston > > William Volk to Mary John in 1793 in Roch > > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > > > In message > <20051113134937.56984.qmail@web25705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, > Alayne and Glen Jenkins <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > writes > >Hello again > > > >I am interested in obtaining any information on the > >above family name between 1700 and 1837 in > >"Pembrokeshire". > >I understand from the Pembrokeshire lookup exchange > >that lookups are available on this list for the > >following: > >St Davids Diocese Testators Wills Index Database > >1564-1858 > >South & West Wales Marriage Bonds & Fiats Index & > >Abstracts Database 1612-1800 > >Is it possible to do a rare family name like this > for > >these resources. > >I appreciate that this is the "wrong" county for > this > >request but am only following instructions on > above. > > > >Glen Jenkins > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > >To help you stay safe and secure online, we've > developed the all new Yahoo! > >Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > > > > > >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > >http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

Hi Ray Many thanks for your search and checking out the correct "all inclusive " price of the certificate. Hopefully I will receive it soon. I don't know how these other names could fit in..I'll have to ponder awhile! Ivy Eileen did go to Singapore at some time as a nurse I believe. She married there and then moved to England. I wonder if her parents were with her in Singapore..another avenue to explore!! Once again many thanks, I'll get back to you if I find any connections with the HATTE/HATTY names you discovered. Hwyl Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > Hi Margaret, > First, $24.50 is the total cost and all certs are exempt GST > > Secondly, with regard to the HATTES.. I couldn't find any further B,D & M > for that family, so it is possible they all returned to England, but that > would have to be verified. > I did find a number of other HATTE events, which may be of interest: > Births: > To Frederick and Annie De Courcey > Emily Ilma . 2.12. 1906 reg. 1907/ 00004 > Stephen Francis Charles 19.12.1912 erg. 1913/ 000011 > Wilton Edward Kenneth 2.11.14 reg. 1914/000189. > > Deaths: > Hatty: > James McPherson f. Alexander m. Georgina Well 6.5.1944 > Hatte: > Frederick f. James m. Annie Kirkwood 26.6.1940 > Kenneth Kirkwood f. William Kirkwood m.eliz.Theresa Kath. Flaherty > 2.11.1951 > Stephen Francis Chas. parents above under births 27.12.1952 > Gertrude Frances August Nehmer m. Catherine Mulligan 10.12.1956 > > Marriages: > Hatte (also Hattie), Frederick James m Gertrude Fran. Nehmer 1954 > > Births index end at 1919, marriages 1956 and deaths 1964 for Queensland. > I have the reg numbers if you want them. > Regards. > > Ray > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > Hi Ray > > The request for the marriage certificate is in the post (Sat 5..soon > after > > we communicated..I used your registration no) I don't know how long it > will > > take to get a reply..( if Dublin is anything to go by it'll be 6-8 weeks!) > > One query, In my rush to post the form, I authorised the cost as $24.50. > > After I'd posted it I re-read the instructions and saw that that was GST > > exempt. Is this the same as our VAT and are they likely to send the > > certificate ..any ideas? > > Thanks so much for promising to look up the couple in later life. I > suppose > > with no census returns the death certs are the most likely option? > > Thanks again > > Margaret. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:30 AM > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > I'll have a look next Sunday. > > > I don't mind doing lookups because people do them for me. If I can't do > > one > > > I can usually point them in the right direction to a suitable web site. > > For > > > example NSW has all theirs on the web now including the recent > additions. > > I > > > only have the 1788 - 1888 pioneer Indexes for NSW. I have a number of > > > indexes at home including all of Victoria and Pioneer Indexes for all > but > > > South Australia. > > > Regards. > > > > > > Ray > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > > > > Hello again Ray, > > > > Many thanks for your help, I can "get on with it" now! > > > > That was the birth of the daughter Ivy Eileen,who married into the > > > > LITTLEFIELD family, which I am researching. (She had a sad end, dying > > of > > > > 'flu in the epidemic in 1919 in England). > > > > It would be interesting to know if the young bride and groom remained > in > > > > Australia..I have no idea what happened to them If you do find > anything > > > in > > > > your perusals I would be delighted! > > > > Many thanks again..you never know you might get a flood of requests > for > > > > look-ups..it could become the Carmarthenshire/Queensland list (what do > > you > > > > think Pauline???):-)). > > > > I would be pleased to return the compliment if I can.. > > > > Hwyl > > > > Margaret. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> > > > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:03 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > > The registration number for the marriage is 1886/000904. > > > > > There was a birth of Ivy Eileen HATTE 22.8.1887 reg. 1887/005476. > > > > > I have the Qld Pioneers Index 1829 - 1889 at home. No places are > > given > > > in > > > > > these indexes. > > > > > I go to the State Library most Sundays and would be happy to do some > > > > > lookups. Most states have Federation Indexes usually from 1889 - > 1901, > > > > > Edwardian 1902 - 1913, Great War 1914 - 1920 and by and large this > is > > > > where > > > > > the births end. Marriages and Deaths vary too but generally 1921 - > > 1945, > > > > > then Deaths only vary from 1945 - 1985. > > > > > There has been a recent expansion of the marriage and death indexes > in > > > NSW > > > > > who now have marriages to about 1953 and deaths to 1970 > > > > > Because I have few direct relatives in Queensland I'm not fully au > > fait > > > > with > > > > > the details, but I think the deaths now go to about 1970. Anyhow I'd > > be > > > > > happy to check for you. > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > > > > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:00 PM > > > > > Subject: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, thanks for the offer of finding the registration no for > me. > > I > > > > > will send you full details off -list but the basic details are > > > > > > Groom James Joseph HATTE > > > > > > Bride Fanny Margaret Ivanna NICHOLAS > > > > > > married on 19 October 1886 Charters Towers > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you > > > cannot > > > > > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of > > the > > > > > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: > > > > 31/10/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > > > > > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you > cannot > > > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > > > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: > > 3/11/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > > questions & Quiries. > > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 5/11/2005 > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >

Hi Margaret, First, $24.50 is the total cost and all certs are exempt GST Secondly, with regard to the HATTES.. I couldn't find any further B,D & M for that family, so it is possible they all returned to England, but that would have to be verified. I did find a number of other HATTE events, which may be of interest: Births: To Frederick and Annie De Courcey Emily Ilma . 2.12. 1906 reg. 1907/ 00004 Stephen Francis Charles 19.12.1912 erg. 1913/ 000011 Wilton Edward Kenneth 2.11.14 reg. 1914/000189. Deaths: Hatty: James McPherson f. Alexander m. Georgina Well 6.5.1944 Hatte: Frederick f. James m. Annie Kirkwood 26.6.1940 Kenneth Kirkwood f. William Kirkwood m.eliz.Theresa Kath. Flaherty 2.11.1951 Stephen Francis Chas. parents above under births 27.12.1952 Gertrude Frances August Nehmer m. Catherine Mulligan 10.12.1956 Marriages: Hatte (also Hattie), Frederick James m Gertrude Fran. Nehmer 1954 Births index end at 1919, marriages 1956 and deaths 1964 for Queensland. I have the reg numbers if you want them. Regards. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > Hi Ray > The request for the marriage certificate is in the post (Sat 5..soon after > we communicated..I used your registration no) I don't know how long it will > take to get a reply..( if Dublin is anything to go by it'll be 6-8 weeks!) > One query, In my rush to post the form, I authorised the cost as $24.50. > After I'd posted it I re-read the instructions and saw that that was GST > exempt. Is this the same as our VAT and are they likely to send the > certificate ..any ideas? > Thanks so much for promising to look up the couple in later life. I suppose > with no census returns the death certs are the most likely option? > Thanks again > Margaret. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > Hi Margaret, > > I'll have a look next Sunday. > > I don't mind doing lookups because people do them for me. If I can't do > one > > I can usually point them in the right direction to a suitable web site. > For > > example NSW has all theirs on the web now including the recent additions. > I > > only have the 1788 - 1888 pioneer Indexes for NSW. I have a number of > > indexes at home including all of Victoria and Pioneer Indexes for all but > > South Australia. > > Regards. > > > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > Hello again Ray, > > > Many thanks for your help, I can "get on with it" now! > > > That was the birth of the daughter Ivy Eileen,who married into the > > > LITTLEFIELD family, which I am researching. (She had a sad end, dying > of > > > 'flu in the epidemic in 1919 in England). > > > It would be interesting to know if the young bride and groom remained in > > > Australia..I have no idea what happened to them If you do find anything > > in > > > your perusals I would be delighted! > > > Many thanks again..you never know you might get a flood of requests for > > > look-ups..it could become the Carmarthenshire/Queensland list (what do > you > > > think Pauline???):-)). > > > I would be pleased to return the compliment if I can.. > > > Hwyl > > > Margaret. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ray Edmunds" <Wattle@iprimus.com.au> > > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:03 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > The registration number for the marriage is 1886/000904. > > > > There was a birth of Ivy Eileen HATTE 22.8.1887 reg. 1887/005476. > > > > I have the Qld Pioneers Index 1829 - 1889 at home. No places are > given > > in > > > > these indexes. > > > > I go to the State Library most Sundays and would be happy to do some > > > > lookups. Most states have Federation Indexes usually from 1889 - 1901, > > > > Edwardian 1902 - 1913, Great War 1914 - 1920 and by and large this is > > > where > > > > the births end. Marriages and Deaths vary too but generally 1921 - > 1945, > > > > then Deaths only vary from 1945 - 1985. > > > > There has been a recent expansion of the marriage and death indexes in > > NSW > > > > who now have marriages to about 1953 and deaths to 1970 > > > > Because I have few direct relatives in Queensland I'm not fully au > fait > > > with > > > > the details, but I think the deaths now go to about 1970. Anyhow I'd > be > > > > happy to check for you. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "SM Coomey" <smcoomey@bigfoot.com> > > > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:00 PM > > > > Subject: [Cmn-L] Queensland BDM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, thanks for the offer of finding the registration no for me. > I > > > > will send you full details off -list but the basic details are > > > > > Groom James Joseph HATTE > > > > > Bride Fanny Margaret Ivanna NICHOLAS > > > > > married on 19 October 1886 Charters Towers > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you > > cannot > > > > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of > the > > > > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: > > > 31/10/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > > > > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: > 3/11/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 5/11/2005 > >

Hello Glen According to John and Sheila Rowland in their book "The surnames if Wales" Volk in Pembrokeshire is the equivalent of Ffoulkes, Foulkes, Ffowkes. I had a quick look in the Newport district of Pembrokeshire in the 1841 census and there are 18 people with surname Volk. The oldest is Thomas Volk aged 70 a Farmer . Are you also interested in census details or just the list of data you mentioned? If so I can look up other areas of PEM also - but it would help if you could give an idea of the particular family you are interested in. There are 97 entries against Pem on the IGI - have you seen them? Some pre 1813 marriages are:- Dorothy Volk to Edward Bartley in 1788 in Llanllawer Thomas Volk to Ann Eynon in 1793 in Nevern Mary Volk to David Francis in 1760 in Llanrhian Martha Volk to David Harry in 1764 in Llandeloy Rachel Volk to Harry William in 1765 in Llandeloy Maria Volk to David Jenkins in 1786 in Whitchurch Mary Volk to Peter John in 1750 in St Davids Anne Volk to John Phillip in 1787 in Llanwnda John Volk to Mary Morgan in 1784 in St Nicholas Thomas Volk to Martha Evan in 1763 in Llanrhian William Volk to Elizabeth Murrow in 1738 in Llanrhian Mary Volk to John Davies in 1799 in Llangwm Mary Volk to Edward Meredith in 1723 in Roch Jane Volk to David Morris in 1716 in Haverfordwest St Mary Lettice Volk to Phillip Mullins in 1757 in Hubberston William Volk to Mary John in 1793 in Roch Cheers Pat In message <20051113134937.56984.qmail@web25705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, Alayne and Glen Jenkins <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> writes >Hello again > >I am interested in obtaining any information on the >above family name between 1700 and 1837 in >"Pembrokeshire". >I understand from the Pembrokeshire lookup exchange >that lookups are available on this list for the >following: >St Davids Diocese Testators Wills Index Database >1564-1858 >South & West Wales Marriage Bonds & Fiats Index & >Abstracts Database 1612-1800 >Is it possible to do a rare family name like this for >these resources. >I appreciate that this is the "wrong" county for this >request but am only following instructions on above. > >Glen Jenkins > > > >___________________________________________________________ >To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! >Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > > >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > -- Pat Powell

Hi Fred/Pauline Yes, have already traced this one unfortunately this is not the family. The William Morgan(s) b.( similar date to wife) is a Coal Miner with wife Elizabeth (b. 1829 approx) believed to be a mid-wife. Their daughter Elizabeth was born around 1872/73 have been struggling with this one (plus I have been stupid Elizabeth would not be on the Census in 1871 if born in 72/73.) I do know the family did reside on the borders of Brecon for a while on a Farm somewhere! Is there a anyone on the list with a Brecon Census in 1881 or possibly 1871 to see if parents were together at this time, is Llanfihangel Tallyllyn on the Borders. Sorry to be so stupid on the date given. Does anyone have any suggestions as I think William and Elizabeth Morgan(s) moved around a bit so have not been able to trace birth of their daughter. Kind Regards Sue 4204 -----Original Message----- From: Fred Seamons [mailto:fseamons@ubtanet.com] Sent: 12 November 2005 23:39 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: IGI Records Hi, Could the following be your family in the 1881 census? I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if these places are close, but they're the only William and Elizabeth Morgan in Brecon in 1881 Census with daughter Elizabeth I could see. William MORGAN Head M Male 36 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Bookseller & Sawyer Elizabeth MORGAN Wife M Female 34 Cilycwm, Carmarthen, Wales Marget MORGAN Daur Female 13 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Elizabeth MORGAN Daur Female 10 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Samuel MORGAN Son Male 6 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Mary MORGAN Daur Female 3 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Morgan B. MORGAN Son Male 1 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Source Information: Dwelling Smithfield Place Census Place Lower Ystradgynlais, Brecon, Wales Family History Library Film 1342288 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Pece / Folio 5346 / 65 Page 3 Hope this helps, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Holmes" <susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: IGI Records > Hi Pauline > > > > I have found a record with the IGI via LDS in the 1881 Census > > > > Would you be able to do a check on the 1871 census to see if the family > was > there and if any ages - Elizabeth would be 2 approx > > Elizabeth Morgan born: 01 JUN 1873 > > Llanfihangel Tallyllyn, Brecon, Wales > > Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth > > Source Information: > > Batch No C081311 dates 1713-1848 Call No 0104475 Prints Call No: 1238710 > (Film) > > _____ > > > > Our could you tell me how I could get more details on this record. > > > > Would be grateful for some advise on this one. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue > > ______________________________ ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed from this mailing list

Hello again I am interested in obtaining any information on the above family name between 1700 and 1837 in "Pembrokeshire". I understand from the Pembrokeshire lookup exchange that lookups are available on this list for the following: St Davids Diocese Testators Wills Index Database 1564-1858 South & West Wales Marriage Bonds & Fiats Index & Abstracts Database 1612-1800 Is it possible to do a rare family name like this for these resources. I appreciate that this is the "wrong" county for this request but am only following instructions on above. Glen Jenkins ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

The Link is now available for Glamorganshire Marriages 1754-1837 on the members 2006 online databases Regards Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hopkin" <david@hopkin5838.fsnet.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] 2006 membership > You state that theGlam marriages 1754-1837 are available on line to > members.I cannot see this on my index.Can you advise me how I get the > facility > David > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list >

You state that theGlam marriages 1754-1837 are available on line to members.I cannot see this on my index.Can you advise me how I get the facility David

Hi, Could the following be your family in the 1881 census? I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if these places are close, but they're the only William and Elizabeth Morgan in Brecon in 1881 Census with daughter Elizabeth I could see. William MORGAN Head M Male 36 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Bookseller & Sawyer Elizabeth MORGAN Wife M Female 34 Cilycwm, Carmarthen, Wales Marget MORGAN Daur Female 13 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Elizabeth MORGAN Daur Female 10 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Samuel MORGAN Son Male 6 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Mary MORGAN Daur Female 3 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Scholar Morgan B. MORGAN Son Male 1 Ystradgunlais, Brecknock, Wales Source Information: Dwelling Smithfield Place Census Place Lower Ystradgynlais, Brecon, Wales Family History Library Film 1342288 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Pece / Folio 5346 / 65 Page 3 Hope this helps, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Holmes" <susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: IGI Records > Hi Pauline > > > > I have found a record with the IGI via LDS in the 1881 Census > > > > Would you be able to do a check on the 1871 census to see if the family > was > there and if any ages - Elizabeth would be 2 approx > > Elizabeth Morgan born: 01 JUN 1873 > > > > > Llanfihangel Tallyllyn, Brecon, Wales > > Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth > > Source Information: > > Batch No C081311 dates 1713-1848 Call No 0104475 Prints Call No: 1238710 > (Film) > > _____ > > > > Our could you tell me how I could get more details on this record. > > > > Would be grateful for some advise on this one. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue > > ______________________________

Hi Nancy I should have said that the Copperworks School which is near the station is only an infant and junior school.... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Copperworks School and Higher Elementary School, Llanelli > HI Nancy > > I do not know if CRO have the registers for the one above.....is that the > Copperworks school by the railway station, thats the only Copperworks I > know in Llanelli......they have produced a book on the school..... > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nevans" <nevans@supanet.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:24 PM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Copperworks School and Higher Elementary School, Llanelli > > >> Dear Pauline, >> >> Would Carmarthen R.O. also have school registers etc. for the above >> schools? >> >> >> Nancy (England) >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >> find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the >> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

HI Lyn Only Carmarthenshire not Wales for 1841 and Glam...... for information go to http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk there are many many indexes there and many more to be added......membership for 2006 is already open. We are also currently specialising in parish registers and non-conformist registers for the online indexes....... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "PR & LS Taylor" <ptaylor@esat.net.au> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] Census > Dear Pauline > > Is the 1841 census accessible on the Carmarthenshire FHS site just for > Carmarthenshire as opposed to the whole of Wales? > > What is the subscription to join the CFHS? > > With Thanks > > Lyn Taylor > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

HI Sue Sorry I do not have an index for 1871 and I only cover Carmarthenshire not Brecon.....if Elizabeth was not born until June 1873 how could she be 2 in 1871? Just a thought!! Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Holmes" <susan@holmes65.fslife.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:55 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] IGI Records > Hi Pauline > > > > I have found a record with the IGI via LDS in the 1881 Census > > > > Would you be able to do a check on the 1871 census to see if the family > was > there and if any ages - Elizabeth would be 2 approx > > Elizabeth Morgan born: 01 JUN 1873 > > > > > Llanfihangel Tallyllyn, Brecon, Wales > > Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth > > Source Information: > > Batch No C081311 dates 1713-1848 Call No 0104475 Prints Call No: 1238710 > (Film) > > _____ > > > > Our could you tell me how I could get more details on this record. > > > > Would be grateful for some advise on this one. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

HI Nancy I do not know if CRO have the registers for the one above.....is that the Copperworks school by the railway station, thats the only Copperworks I know in Llanelli......they have produced a book on the school..... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "nevans" <nevans@supanet.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Copperworks School and Higher Elementary School, Llanelli > Dear Pauline, > > Would Carmarthen R.O. also have school registers etc. for the above > schools? > > > Nancy (England) > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >