Hello Gareth Received my copy of Carmarthenshire Antiquary today...fantastic reading and what a service, ordered it at 2.30 yesterday and arrived this morning. Interesting reading thanks for that.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Howell" <gar@garethhowell.net> To: "Dave Howells" <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Howell of Llandewi Velfrey > http://www.carmantiqs.org.uk/publications.html > > Actually it is vol XXX11 1996 > > There is also an article about Castellhowell which is most interesting. > > Gar > > Dave Howells wrote: > >> Gareth >> still cannot find it >> rgds >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Howell" <gar@garethhowell.net> >> To: "Dave Howells" <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:54 AM >> Subject: Re: Howell of Llandewi Velfrey >> >> >>> Yes it is agood read. It is available on the internet to purchase. >>> Just key in those words Carmarthenshire antiquary posibly VolXXX1 1996 >>> as well. >>> You should find a checkout site somewhere and it'll arrive in a day or >>> two. >>> >>> If you can't find I'll have a look for you. >>> >>> Gar >>> >>> Dave Howells wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Gareth >>>> Where do I find Carm. antiquary xxx11 1996? >>>> thanks >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Howell" >>>> <gar@garethhowell.net> >>>> To: "Dave Howells" <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:46 PM >>>> Subject: Howell of Llandewi Velfrey >>>> >>>> >>>>> Do not know if you can help but as my local knowledge >>>>> of these places is very little, I have to make sure I find >>>>> the correct John Howell and not jump to conclusions. >>>>> >>>>>> From my original notes was scribbled the birth or bap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> of John Howell 13/11/1813 but location is Henllan Amgoed is this close >>>>> to Llangan, also one of the witnesses to the marriage of John Howell >>>>> was a Titus Howell (taking a guess it maybe a brother or cousin) and >>>>> so may have been born in same place, on a search I did find a >>>>> Titus Howell born Llandewy velfrey 1811, could this be a clue, is it >>>>> in the same area? >>>>> thanks for your help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have got the Carmarthenshire antiquary vol XXX11 1996 >>>>> which is very useful for the Llandewi Velfrey Area. >>>>> It has a genealogy in it for several families in that close vicinity. >>>>> Titus does not figure in this genealogy but it may be linked to >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There are two John Howell listed in that but neither of them coincides >>>>> anywhere near with the one you mention's >>>>> date of birth. He may be the son of one but more detective work would >>>>> hve to be done. >>>>> >>>>> That copy of thre antiquary is worth buying in any event for the >>>>> Howell family of that particular vicinity.. >>>>> It may be bought online. >>>>> >>>>> Check google interactive map UK for Henllan Angoed /Llangan (I am not >>>>> familar with these names but I will check.) >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gareth >>>>> >>>>> http://www.garethhowell.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >

Sue Llandeilo fawr has kindly been indexed by Shirley a member of CFHS so I have looked here for you. Can only see two.... 1852 24 June Llandeilo fawr parish church John Williams or Morgan illig son John Williams of Neath and Elizabeth Morgan, Copperman 1855 16th July John Williams son David and Elizabeth, Trap Mill, Miller could not see any other John's from 1851-1855 Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > > Hi ,could SKS see if they can find > > John WILLIAMS > B 1853 > Landeilo > > Posssibly a Carpenter or wood related occupation. > Father possibly David > > I have given up I must be missing him all the time. > > > Any help will be really appreciated. > Sue in LLantrisant Glam. > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi All: I received a death certificate for my ancestor Benjamin Beynon who died in 1862. I am having difficulty reading the handwriting and I am hoping someone familiar with the area can tell me if I am deciphering the placenames correctly: He died in: Pencwarau?? Llanboidy and his witness ( Dan Davies) lived in Fifynnon ? even, Cilmaenllwyd. Any help in figuring these names out would be appreciated. Thanks, Deb

Hi ,could SKS see if they can find John WILLIAMS B 1853 Landeilo Posssibly a Carpenter or wood related occupation. Father possibly David I have given up I must be missing him all the time. Any help will be really appreciated. Sue in LLantrisant Glam.

Glen Here are the Jenkins records from the Ffynnonhenri Baptist Chapel in Conwil. Note as usual the interpretation is subject to difficulties. The births looked interesting but I think they are too old for your David and Elizabeth Births John son of David and Elizabeth Jenkins of Crampyddolon Conwil Registered July 3rd 1807 Stephen son of David and Elizabeth Jenkins of Crampyddolon Conwil Registered Jan 6th 1813 ( I know of a Crampy Selen in Conwil in 1841 but not a Crampddolon, could be the same place, in 1841 this David and Elizabeth Jenkins were at Weinhavod Conwil Elvet) Baptised Ann Jenkins Fellinwalter 1823 Jane Jenkins Nantbendigaid 1817 John Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1824 Sara Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1829 ( these are all well known farms in Conwil, my 4 g grandfather farmed Nantbendigaid) Expelled John Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1828 John Jenkins Gudwngwyn 1834 Jane Jenkins 1820 Died Jane Jenkins? Crampyddolon 1821 Mary Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1831 Dave Davies Boulder CO

Hello Robert, I have found the following excerpt in a book called "Pages from the History of Llandovery': "No. 25 Green Hall, a three-storied house, was built at the same time as No. 27 and there are traces of former communicating doors between the two, an arrangementwhich indicates that they were designed to be let together or separately, as convenience dictated. The house faces the entry, towards Riyston House, exhibiting a plain doorway with a single window above, having sashes with glazing-bars. There are five similar windoes towards the High Street, one on the ground floor and a pair on each of the upper floors. No buildings on the site of Nos. 25-29 can be identified in the rate-books of 1810-1811 but a number of small properties stood on the site by 1813 when they appeared in the background of an engraving depicting Neuadd Newydd. The properties are recorded in the Rate Book of 1836 by which date they belonged to David ZThomas and made seven lettings, including a smithy. There was also a yard on part of the site, then belonging to Stephen Jones, maltster. The present houses were built a year or two afterwards.. Early in 1841, when the material for the Tithe Apportionment Roll wasbeing collected, No. 25 was occupied by David Thomas, probably not the owner. In July of the same year the house appears in the Rate Book as the residence of the Misses Sarah and Charlotte Jones who had previously been living in Stone Street to which they returned in 1844, renting Gloucester House. No. 25 High Street was then taken by John Garner, a printer, who opened a beerhouse on the premises und! er the sign of The Falcon, the name of a tavern previously kept by another printer in apart of No. 29. John Garner made his last appearance in the Burgess Roll in 1855-1856 but some date prior to 1849 he had given up the beerhouse which had returned to No. 29. The Rate Book of 1866 shows David Thomas still owning No. 25 which was then let to Mary Hughes. The name of 'Miss Mary Hughes, Green Hall' appears in the list of private residents in Slater's Directory in 1868. In the last decade of the nineteenth century the house was owned by D. P. Powell. No tenant is named in the Valuation of 1892-1893. The Rate Book of 1899 shows the house occupied by Magdalen and Jane Thomas." I'm sorry that I don't have the other info that you were looking for, but if you like I can send you a picture of the property next time I am home in Wales!! Cheers Sian W. Jones ________________________________________________________________ Sent via Aserty Enhanced Internet Services, Visit us at http://WWW.ASERTY.COM

Thanks Glen I did what you suggested. I hope one of them is right. Thanks Again, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Morgan Rees,1861, Carmarthen > Ron > > I suggest that you send an email to the Carmarthen > Registrars. > > Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk > > I looked on FreeBMD and they have completed the index > for 1852 and there are only two Morgan Rees for this > year in Carmarthenshire. They both correspond to the > birth date you have. > They are: > Births June Quarter 1852 > REES Morgan Llandilofawr 11a 499 > REES Morgan Llandovery 11a 467 > > Explain that you are emailing from the US and ask > them if one of these was born on May 12, 1852. If both > were you are in trouble! If one was he is more than > likely to be your man. > > Hope this works out. > > Glen Jenkins > Swansea > > > > --- Ronald Rees <rdrees@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Hello Pauline, >> Sorry to say that I don't know anything >> important about the family. All >> I know is that my grandfather, Morgan Rees came to >> the U.S. in 1870 or 71 to >> Frostburg, Maryland, he found a job as a clerk in a >> grocery store. Maybe his >> father was a grocer too Later he moved to Pa. >> and opened his own grocery >> store. >> His sister Ann also came to the U.S. and his >> brother John went to >> Africa to work on the R.R. and was never heard from >> again, he was killed >> either by wild animals or natives. >> Well that's not much to go on so maybe I'll >> just have to settle for >> that. Maybe you could check the 1861 census for me. >> Thanks for your >> help, >> Ron Rees >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Morgan Rees,1861, Carmarthen >> >> >> > Hi ron >> > >> > do you have an occupation for John Rees >> > >> > Carmarthen is indeed a parish, and in its time a >> large one, it was known >> > as St Peters Carmarthen........there were three >> parish churches >> > there.....St Peters, Llanllwch and St Davids, >> amongst very many >> > non-conformist chapels.... >> > >> > I can look in 1851 for you.......do you have a few >> more clues.... >> > >> > Pauline >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ronald Rees" <rdrees@verizon.net> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:14 PM >> > Subject: [Cmn-L] Morgan Rees,1861, Carmarthen >> > >> > >> >> Hello List, >> >> I'm still trying to find my grandfather's >> family in Carmarthen. Would >> >> Carmarthen be found in the census or isn't that >> considered a parish? I >> >> got leads to several John Reeses, but they don't >> seem right. John and his >> >> wife whom I think was Ann Williams, had three >> children, John, Ann, and >> >> Morgan, who was my grandfather,born May 12, 1852. >> His sister Ann was born >> >> Dec. 20, 1845, and I don't know John's birthday. >> >> The father was born about 1823. All I remember >> my father saying is >> >> that they came from Carmarthen, I don't remember >> any other name. >> >> If they were from Carmarthen would they have >> married or had children >> >> christened in St. Peters Church? >> >> Thanks for any help you can give me. >> >> >> Ron Rees >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. > http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >

Ron I suggest that you send an email to the Carmarthen Registrars. Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk I looked on FreeBMD and they have completed the index for 1852 and there are only two Morgan Rees for this year in Carmarthenshire. They both correspond to the birth date you have. They are: Births June Quarter 1852 REES Morgan Llandilofawr 11a 499 REES Morgan Llandovery 11a 467 Explain that you are emailing from the US and ask them if one of these was born on May 12, 1852. If both were you are in trouble! If one was he is more than likely to be your man. Hope this works out. Glen Jenkins Swansea --- Ronald Rees <rdrees@verizon.net> wrote: > Hello Pauline, > Sorry to say that I don't know anything > important about the family. All > I know is that my grandfather, Morgan Rees came to > the U.S. in 1870 or 71 to > Frostburg, Maryland, he found a job as a clerk in a > grocery store. Maybe his > father was a grocer too Later he moved to Pa. > and opened his own grocery > store. > His sister Ann also came to the U.S. and his > brother John went to > Africa to work on the R.R. and was never heard from > again, he was killed > either by wild animals or natives. > Well that's not much to go on so maybe I'll > just have to settle for > that. Maybe you could check the 1861 census for me. > Thanks for your > help, > Ron Rees > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Morgan Rees,1861, Carmarthen > > > > Hi ron > > > > do you have an occupation for John Rees > > > > Carmarthen is indeed a parish, and in its time a > large one, it was known > > as St Peters Carmarthen........there were three > parish churches > > there.....St Peters, Llanllwch and St Davids, > amongst very many > > non-conformist chapels.... > > > > I can look in 1851 for you.......do you have a few > more clues.... > > > > Pauline > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ronald Rees" <rdrees@verizon.net> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:14 PM > > Subject: [Cmn-L] Morgan Rees,1861, Carmarthen > > > > > >> Hello List, > >> I'm still trying to find my grandfather's > family in Carmarthen. Would > >> Carmarthen be found in the census or isn't that > considered a parish? I > >> got leads to several John Reeses, but they don't > seem right. John and his > >> wife whom I think was Ann Williams, had three > children, John, Ann, and > >> Morgan, who was my grandfather,born May 12, 1852. > His sister Ann was born > >> Dec. 20, 1845, and I don't know John's birthday. > >> The father was born about 1823. All I remember > my father saying is > >> that they came from Carmarthen, I don't remember > any other name. > >> If they were from Carmarthen would they have > married or had children > >> christened in St. Peters Church? > >> Thanks for any help you can give me. > >> > Ron Rees > >> > >> > >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >> > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > ___________________________________________________________ Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry

Hello Huw, Have seen the first picture in the Llanelli paper, which was send to me. Are you able to scan it for me? My grandfather and his sisters were also baptised there. Any idea where I can buy the book? Regards, Elwyn. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: huwadil [mailto:huwadil@ntlworld.com] Verzonden: donderdag 19 januari 2006 16:20 Aan: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Onderwerp: [Cmn-L] Historical sights in Llanelli/y To any interested Members particularly Elwyn in the Netherlands. A book, title - 'Around Llanelli', USBN 7524 3370 9, is full of interesting comments and photographs of the town and area. On page 71 a baptism is shown taking place in the Lliedi river, no doubt Adulam chapel members, c.1913. Of particular interest to Elwyn would be page 22 showing two postcards of Mill Lane c.1935. I witnessed a few baptism in my youth in Felinfoel and very often walked Mill Lane on my adventures around the town when a lad. Hope it interests members. Regards Huw Lewis. ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed from this mailing list

Hi Pauline, Thank you for your 1851 census Hinkin lookup. My ancestors show up under Henkin/Hinkin/Hinkins etc. Now I have another piece of the puzzle. I appreciate your assistance. Robert

>> In the past when ordering a birth certificate the >> mothers maiden name has >> been given incorrectly.......ask if they would check >> another childs birth >> certificate and ask if the mothers maiden name is >> still Jones.....or if >> changed to Davies.... I have 2 birthcertificates both giving the maiden name of the mother as Clipson but can find no record of the marriage! OOps Gillie >> send a query to >> >> Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> > Sorry Pauline >> > >> > Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I >> > thought this marriage was the one until I received >> a >> > birth certificate of one of the children and >> mother is >> > Elizabeth Jones. >> > >> > But you must be a mind reader to know of >> LLangeler!! >> > >> > Glen >> > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Glen you did not say that both Daniel and >> Elizabeth >> >> were from Llangeler, >> >> just looked at 1851 census...... >> >> >> >> Is this their marriage? >> >> >> >> 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church >> >> David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the >> >> parish >> >> >> >> I looked to see if they baptised their children >> in >> >> the church but no they >> >> did not.....the marriage looks a good match >> >> >> >> let me know Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> >> >> >> > Glen >> >> > >> >> > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in >> the >> >> parish church .....when >> >> > registration came into being by June 1837 they >> >> could marry in parish >> >> > church, chapel with registrar present or >> registry >> >> office....... >> >> > >> >> > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen >> >> registry office if they >> >> > can find the marriage for you if after >> 1837..... >> >> > >> >> > You state you have them in later census ? >> Where >> >> were they can you give us >> >> > a clue.... >> >> > >> >> > thanks Paulne >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy >> of >> >> it >> >> >> in my research file. I suspected that they >> were >> >> >> non-conformist for some time because I have >> not >> >> been >> >> >> able to find a marriage for them or >> >> >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. >> >> The >> >> >> children that I know of are: >> >> >> >> >> >> John 1837 >> >> >> Esther 1839 >> >> >> Rachel 1840 >> >> >> David 1842 >> >> >> Mary 1846 >> >> >> Daniel 1848 >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> Glen Jenkins >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Glen >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from >> Conwil >> >> >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah >> >> >>> Davies and their respective family....I know >> >> exactly >> >> >>> where Dinah (also nee >> >> >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children >> were >> >> >>> living when they got married >> >> >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time >> of >> >> her >> >> >>> death they lived in >> >> >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot >> find >> >> her >> >> >>> burial details.....they >> >> >>> christened their children in Bethel >> Calvinistic >> >> >>> Methodist chapel Conwil >> >> >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot >> find >> >> a >> >> >>> headstone for her (I have >> >> >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have >> never >> >> >>> even found Daniel's death >> >> >>> let alone a burial after years of >> >> searching.....If >> >> >>> non-conformist and there >> >> >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these >> >> >>> chapels records rarely >> >> >>> survived if they had any in the first >> place... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in >> case >> >> the >> >> >>> ones mentioned above are >> >> >>> there...... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel >> >> between >> >> >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed >> >> >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Pauline >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> >> >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> >> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM >> >> >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > Hi All >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins >> >> >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins >> >> >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. 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Pauline As usual that is an excellent suggestion. I have assumed that this is the same Elizabeth but I have been caught out before making that assumption and it may be the case here. Why didn't I think of that?! Glen --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > HI Glen > > The registry office may have a marriage of David > Jenkins and Elizabeth Jones > then.......ask them to see.... > > In the past when ordering a birth certificate the > mothers maiden name has > been given incorrectly.......ask if they would check > another childs birth > certificate and ask if the mothers maiden name is > still Jones.....or if > changed to Davies.... > > send a query to > > Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk > > Pauline > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > > > > Sorry Pauline > > > > Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I > > thought this marriage was the one until I received > a > > birth certificate of one of the children and > mother is > > Elizabeth Jones. > > > > But you must be a mind reader to know of > LLangeler!! > > > > Glen > > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > > > >> Glen you did not say that both Daniel and > Elizabeth > >> were from Llangeler, > >> just looked at 1851 census...... > >> > >> Is this their marriage? > >> > >> 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church > >> David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the > >> parish > >> > >> I looked to see if they baptised their children > in > >> the church but no they > >> did not.....the marriage looks a good match > >> > >> let me know Pauline > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >> > >> > >> > Glen > >> > > >> > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in > the > >> parish church .....when > >> > registration came into being by June 1837 they > >> could marry in parish > >> > church, chapel with registrar present or > registry > >> office....... > >> > > >> > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen > >> registry office if they > >> > can find the marriage for you if after > 1837..... > >> > > >> > You state you have them in later census ? > Where > >> were they can you give us > >> > a clue.... > >> > > >> > thanks Paulne > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >> > > >> > > >> >> Pauline > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy > of > >> it > >> >> in my research file. I suspected that they > were > >> >> non-conformist for some time because I have > not > >> been > >> >> able to find a marriage for them or > >> >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. > >> The > >> >> children that I know of are: > >> >> > >> >> John 1837 > >> >> Esther 1839 > >> >> Rachel 1840 > >> >> David 1842 > >> >> Mary 1846 > >> >> Daniel 1848 > >> >> > >> >> Regards > >> >> > >> >> Glen Jenkins > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Hi Glen > >> >>> > >> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from > Conwil > >> >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah > >> >>> Davies and their respective family....I know > >> exactly > >> >>> where Dinah (also nee > >> >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children > were > >> >>> living when they got married > >> >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time > of > >> her > >> >>> death they lived in > >> >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot > find > >> her > >> >>> burial details.....they > >> >>> christened their children in Bethel > Calvinistic > >> >>> Methodist chapel Conwil > >> >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot > find > >> a > >> >>> headstone for her (I have > >> >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have > never > >> >>> even found Daniel's death > >> >>> let alone a burial after years of > >> searching.....If > >> >>> non-conformist and there > >> >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these > >> >>> chapels records rarely > >> >>> survived if they had any in the first > place... > >> >>> > >> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in > case > >> the > >> >>> ones mentioned above are > >> >>> there...... > >> >>> > >> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel > >> between > >> >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed > >> >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know > >> >>> > >> >>> Pauline > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > >> >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > >> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM > >> >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Hi All > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins > >> >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins > >> >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. 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Hello David I don't know of any concrete affiliation to any religion. The only concrete evidence I have is that their son Daniel married in an independent chapel - Gibeon Chapel Mydrim. I would be grateful if you could check the entries of Ffynnon Henri. Thanks Glen Jenkins --- David Davies <felinfoel71@yahoo.com> wrote: > Glen > I have the records of the Baptist Chapel at > FfynnonHenri Conwil Elvet, near Llanpumpsaint, I > will check for the Jenkins family in those records. > Do you know if they had any Baptist affiliation? > Dave Davies > Boulder CO > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > ___________________________________________________________ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/

HI Glen The registry office may have a marriage of David Jenkins and Elizabeth Jones then.......ask them to see.... In the past when ordering a birth certificate the mothers maiden name has been given incorrectly.......ask if they would check another childs birth certificate and ask if the mothers maiden name is still Jones.....or if changed to Davies.... send a query to Registrars@carmarthenshire.gov.uk Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > Sorry Pauline > > Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I > thought this marriage was the one until I received a > birth certificate of one of the children and mother is > Elizabeth Jones. > > But you must be a mind reader to know of LLangeler!! > > Glen > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > >> Glen you did not say that both Daniel and Elizabeth >> were from Llangeler, >> just looked at 1851 census...... >> >> Is this their marriage? >> >> 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church >> David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the >> parish >> >> I looked to see if they baptised their children in >> the church but no they >> did not.....the marriage looks a good match >> >> let me know Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> > Glen >> > >> > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in the >> parish church .....when >> > registration came into being by June 1837 they >> could marry in parish >> > church, chapel with registrar present or registry >> office....... >> > >> > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen >> registry office if they >> > can find the marriage for you if after 1837..... >> > >> > You state you have them in later census ? Where >> were they can you give us >> > a clue.... >> > >> > thanks Paulne >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> > >> > >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy of >> it >> >> in my research file. I suspected that they were >> >> non-conformist for some time because I have not >> been >> >> able to find a marriage for them or >> >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. >> The >> >> children that I know of are: >> >> >> >> John 1837 >> >> Esther 1839 >> >> Rachel 1840 >> >> David 1842 >> >> Mary 1846 >> >> Daniel 1848 >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Glen Jenkins >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Glen >> >>> >> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from Conwil >> >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah >> >>> Davies and their respective family....I know >> exactly >> >>> where Dinah (also nee >> >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children were >> >>> living when they got married >> >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time of >> her >> >>> death they lived in >> >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot find >> her >> >>> burial details.....they >> >>> christened their children in Bethel Calvinistic >> >>> Methodist chapel Conwil >> >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot find >> a >> >>> headstone for her (I have >> >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have never >> >>> even found Daniel's death >> >>> let alone a burial after years of >> searching.....If >> >>> non-conformist and there >> >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these >> >>> chapels records rarely >> >>> survived if they had any in the first place... >> >>> >> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in case >> the >> >>> ones mentioned above are >> >>> there...... >> >>> >> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel >> between >> >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed >> >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know >> >>> >> >>> Pauline >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM >> >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > Hi All >> >>> > >> >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins >> >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins >> >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. For most of their >> >>> lives >> >>> > they lived in Conwil Elvet parish in a small >> farm >> >>> call >> >>> > Manllwyd. The farm is located West of the >> "Railway >> >>> > Inn" at Clytiau Cochion which is North of >> >>> > LLanpumsaint. >> >>> > >> >>> > I wondered if anyone knows this area well and >> >>> could >> >>> > help. I have looked in Conwil Elvet registers >> and >> >>> > Llanpumsaint but no luck which suggests that >> they >> >>> were >> >>> > non-conformist. Their son Daniel was married >> in >> >>> Gideon >> >>> > Chapel Mydrim. >> >>> > >> >>> > All suggestions welcomed >> >>> > >> >>> > Glen Jenkins >> >>> > Swansea >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> >>> > Yahoo! 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Glen you did not say that both Daniel and Elizabeth were from Llangeler, just looked at 1851 census...... Is this their marriage? 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the parish I looked to see if they baptised their children in the church but no they did not.....the marriage looks a good match let me know Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > Glen > > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in the parish church .....when > registration came into being by June 1837 they could marry in parish > church, chapel with registrar present or registry office....... > > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen registry office if they > can find the marriage for you if after 1837..... > > You state you have them in later census ? Where were they can you give us > a clue.... > > thanks Paulne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > > >> Pauline >> >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy of it >> in my research file. I suspected that they were >> non-conformist for some time because I have not been >> able to find a marriage for them or >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. The >> children that I know of are: >> >> John 1837 >> Esther 1839 >> Rachel 1840 >> David 1842 >> Mary 1846 >> Daniel 1848 >> >> Regards >> >> Glen Jenkins >> >> >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Glen >>> >>> Not to put you off but I had family from Conwil >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah >>> Davies and their respective family....I know exactly >>> where Dinah (also nee >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children were >>> living when they got married >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time of her >>> death they lived in >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot find her >>> burial details.....they >>> christened their children in Bethel Calvinistic >>> Methodist chapel Conwil >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot find a >>> headstone for her (I have >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have never >>> even found Daniel's death >>> let alone a burial after years of searching.....If >>> non-conformist and there >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these >>> chapels records rarely >>> survived if they had any in the first place... >>> >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in case the >>> ones mentioned above are >>> there...... >>> >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel between >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know >>> >>> Pauline >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >>> >>> >>> > Hi All >>> > >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. For most of their >>> lives >>> > they lived in Conwil Elvet parish in a small farm >>> call >>> > Manllwyd. The farm is located West of the "Railway >>> > Inn" at Clytiau Cochion which is North of >>> > LLanpumsaint. >>> > >>> > I wondered if anyone knows this area well and >>> could >>> > help. I have looked in Conwil Elvet registers and >>> > Llanpumsaint but no luck which suggests that they >>> were >>> > non-conformist. Their son Daniel was married in >>> Gideon >>> > Chapel Mydrim. >>> > >>> > All suggestions welcomed >>> > >>> > Glen Jenkins >>> > Swansea >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> ___________________________________________________________ >>> > Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC >>> calling worldwide with >>> > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> > >>> > >>> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in >>> Photographs & Information >>> > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >>> > >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with >> voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

HI Huw Is this a new book, or is it Looking Around Llanelli which is now out of print.... let us know as I would be interested in purchasing if a new one out..... thanks Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "huwadil" <huwadil@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Historical sights in Llanelli/y > To any interested Members particularly Elwyn in the Netherlands. > > A book, title - 'Around Llanelli', USBN 7524 3370 9, is full of > interesting comments and > photographs of the town and area. > On page 71 a baptism is shown taking place in the Lliedi river, no doubt > Adulam chapel members, > c.1913. > Of particular interest to Elwyn would be page 22 showing two postcards of > Mill Lane c.1935. > > I witnessed a few baptism in my youth in Felinfoel and very often walked > Mill Lane on my adventures > around the town when a lad. > > Hope it interests members. > > Regards Huw Lewis. > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list >

Glen If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in the parish church .....when registration came into being by June 1837 they could marry in parish church, chapel with registrar present or registry office....... If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen registry office if they can find the marriage for you if after 1837..... You state you have them in later census ? Where were they can you give us a clue.... thanks Paulne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > Pauline > > Thanks for this information. I have put a copy of it > in my research file. I suspected that they were > non-conformist for some time because I have not been > able to find a marriage for them or > chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. The > children that I know of are: > > John 1837 > Esther 1839 > Rachel 1840 > David 1842 > Mary 1846 > Daniel 1848 > > Regards > > Glen Jenkins > > > --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > >> Hi Glen >> >> Not to put you off but I had family from Conwil >> Elved Daniel and Dinah >> Davies and their respective family....I know exactly >> where Dinah (also nee >> Davies) died in a farm where her children were >> living when they got married >> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time of her >> death they lived in >> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot find her >> burial details.....they >> christened their children in Bethel Calvinistic >> Methodist chapel Conwil >> Elved which I have looked around but cannot find a >> headstone for her (I have >> for Daniel's brother and family)......have never >> even found Daniel's death >> let alone a burial after years of searching.....If >> non-conformist and there >> is no headstone it is very difficult as these >> chapels records rarely >> survived if they had any in the first place... >> >> If you locate yours keep me posted just in case the >> ones mentioned above are >> there...... >> >> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel between >> 1813-1837 I have indexed >> the chapel baptisms......let me know >> >> Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" >> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM >> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet >> >> >> > Hi All >> > >> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins >> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins >> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. For most of their >> lives >> > they lived in Conwil Elvet parish in a small farm >> call >> > Manllwyd. The farm is located West of the "Railway >> > Inn" at Clytiau Cochion which is North of >> > LLanpumsaint. >> > >> > I wondered if anyone knows this area well and >> could >> > help. I have looked in Conwil Elvet registers and >> > Llanpumsaint but no luck which suggests that they >> were >> > non-conformist. Their son Daniel was married in >> Gideon >> > Chapel Mydrim. >> > >> > All suggestions welcomed >> > >> > Glen Jenkins >> > Swansea >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> > Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC >> calling worldwide with >> > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> > >> > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in >> Photographs & Information >> > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi, Can SKS tell me please - I am trying to locate death certificate, I believe they died in the parish of Llanddewi Abergwesyn, Brecon. I have found one with district Tregaron. This seems to ring a bell, would it be right do you know? What would Tregaron cover, I know it's not in Carmarthenshire, but it's not that far away! Is there a lookup for Cardiganshire/that area? Many thanks Helen

Huw, Were you in the Brewery during the "witnessing? And is it still there? Or am I thinking of Pwll? Regards, Ron Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "huwadil" <huwadil@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Historical sights in Llanelli/y > To any interested Members particularly Elwyn in the Netherlands. > > A book, title - 'Around Llanelli', USBN 7524 3370 9, is full of > interesting comments and > photographs of the town and area. > On page 71 a baptism is shown taking place in the Lliedi river, no doubt > Adulam chapel members, > c.1913. > Of particular interest to Elwyn would be page 22 showing two postcards of > Mill Lane c.1935. > > I witnessed a few baptism in my youth in Felinfoel and very often walked > Mill Lane on my adventures > around the town when a lad. > > Hope it interests members. > > Regards Huw Lewis. > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release Date: > 16/01/2006 > >

Sorry Pauline Posted my earlier reply before I received this. I thought this marriage was the one until I received a birth certificate of one of the children and mother is Elizabeth Jones. But you must be a mind reader to know of LLangeler!! Glen --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > Glen you did not say that both Daniel and Elizabeth > were from Llangeler, > just looked at 1851 census...... > > Is this their marriage? > > 1837 17th January Llangeler parish church > David Jenkins and Elizabeth Davies both of the > parish > > I looked to see if they baptised their children in > the church but no they > did not.....the marriage looks a good match > > let me know Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > > > > Glen > > > > If they married pre 1837 they had to marry in the > parish church .....when > > registration came into being by June 1837 they > could marry in parish > > church, chapel with registrar present or registry > office....... > > > > If you know both names you could ask Carmarthen > registry office if they > > can find the marriage for you if after 1837..... > > > > You state you have them in later census ? Where > were they can you give us > > a clue.... > > > > thanks Paulne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > > > > > >> Pauline > >> > >> Thanks for this information. I have put a copy of > it > >> in my research file. I suspected that they were > >> non-conformist for some time because I have not > been > >> able to find a marriage for them or > >> chritenings/baptisms for any of their chidren. > The > >> children that I know of are: > >> > >> John 1837 > >> Esther 1839 > >> Rachel 1840 > >> David 1842 > >> Mary 1846 > >> Daniel 1848 > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Glen Jenkins > >> > >> > >> --- Pauline James <paulinejames@onvol.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Glen > >>> > >>> Not to put you off but I had family from Conwil > >>> Elved Daniel and Dinah > >>> Davies and their respective family....I know > exactly > >>> where Dinah (also nee > >>> Davies) died in a farm where her children were > >>> living when they got married > >>> named Cilmache Conwil Elved, but at the time of > her > >>> death they lived in > >>> Penlanychawel Carmarthen Town but cannot find > her > >>> burial details.....they > >>> christened their children in Bethel Calvinistic > >>> Methodist chapel Conwil > >>> Elved which I have looked around but cannot find > a > >>> headstone for her (I have > >>> for Daniel's brother and family)......have never > >>> even found Daniel's death > >>> let alone a burial after years of > searching.....If > >>> non-conformist and there > >>> is no headstone it is very difficult as these > >>> chapels records rarely > >>> survived if they had any in the first place... > >>> > >>> If you locate yours keep me posted just in case > the > >>> ones mentioned above are > >>> there...... > >>> > >>> If you think yours were belonging to Bethel > between > >>> 1813-1837 I have indexed > >>> the chapel baptisms......let me know > >>> > >>> Pauline > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Alayne and Glen Jenkins" > >>> <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 PM > >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] Jenkins Conwil Elvet > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi All > >>> > > >>> > I need some ideas as to where David Jenkins > >>> > (1810-1891) and his wife Elizabeth Jenkins > >>> > (1812-C1887) may be buried. For most of their > >>> lives > >>> > they lived in Conwil Elvet parish in a small > farm > >>> call > >>> > Manllwyd. The farm is located West of the > "Railway > >>> > Inn" at Clytiau Cochion which is North of > >>> > LLanpumsaint. > >>> > > >>> > I wondered if anyone knows this area well and > >>> could > >>> > help. I have looked in Conwil Elvet registers > and > >>> > Llanpumsaint but no luck which suggests that > they > >>> were > >>> > non-conformist. Their son Daniel was married > in > >>> Gideon > >>> > Chapel Mydrim. > >>> > > >>> > All suggestions welcomed > >>> > > >>> > Glen Jenkins > >>> > Swansea > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________ > >>> > Yahoo! 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