Pauline, Many thanks indeed to Carmarthenshire rootsweb for introducing Graham Howell from Ontario to me, who having done his research most consicentiously, and being interested in the tail female of the Howell family from his grandmother, turns out with 88% certainty to be a third cousin whom I have been trying to find out more about for a good many years. This family is a descendant of Gertrude Howell who became a Zanotti, descendant of William Morgan Howell (1839) or a brother. The line that he has presented to me seems with 50% certainty to conclude that the Ffynnon Felin (Llanwinio) link is common forebearance, and that the Howell line of which there are seven male descendants today of William Morgan Howell with the name, (and also male descedants of Zanotti named Howell too who may not be excluded) are an important line of the Ffynnon Felin descent. Three of them live near Aberaeron, ages 2,4 and father James Bonnell Howell 24. I have also suggested that David (Lord) Howell of Guildford, who is the self selected leader of such a family named Howell, and nobly unaware of the genealogy, is also descended quite closely to this illustrious Carmarthenshire family in particular. The Indian civil service link in that family is the closest evidence I can think of for the moment. Not for nothing was Lord Howell foreign secretary in Mrs Thatcher's radical government. I am very grateful to Graham for filling in my aural memories gleaned from my father (1902-1984) Richard Vivian Howell and from my aunt, his sister Mabel m Davies (1894-1993 age99yrs) with written evidence which I hope to publish in good format on my web pages in due course. Constructing a clear tree back to the Ffynnon Felin Howell tree in the Carmarthenshire antiquary Vol XXX11 1996 will be absorbing. Many thanks, Gareth Howell.

Hi All I am still trying to read the town in Carmarthenshire where my DAVID JONES (son of Thomas JONES) was born.in 1817 On the 1851 it looks like: LANDERLOY LANDERDOG LANDERLOG LANDERDOY do any of these look familiar to SKS please? Thanks Eve

Hello Pauline Just seeing if you are getting my e-mails I am sending you directly? rgds David

Hello list, Can somebody tell me if my gggrandparents David Robert(s) ,who died 07-02-1868 and his wife Mary Robert(s), who died 18-01-1866, had made a will and where to look for it. Know that he owned cottages at ynys Y llyn, Felinfoel. His wife Mary Hugh had them passed on earlier. Elwyn - Netherlands.

Hi Michael Yes there are hardcopies of the publications in the CRO, when you see them you will realise that they would be large files. when you attempt to download these files it will tell you in the bottom left of the window the actual size of the file you are downloading. If you do not have broadband you are going to struggle downloading much of the images and scanned data, but you should be able to access the databases which are available with reasonable ease. with the History of Carmarthenshire, view the indexes first then download what you would like to view rather than try to download the whole lot at once, this goes for the images as well. Regards Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Williams" <williamsjm@mail.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:21 PM Subject: [CmnFHS] File sizes for download >A few days ago I tried downloading the new "History of Carmarthenshire" >document which Richard announced in his message of 17th January. I don't >have a broadband connection and I gave up after 3/4 hour. Does anyone know >what the size of this file is? I've asked Richard whether it is possible to >specify the file sizes. > Is there a hard copy of this publication in the Carmarthen Record Office? > > Michael Williams > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS Mailing List ==== > Add you request and research items to the GenWeb Boards follow links at: > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > CarmarthenshireFHS@WalesGenealogy.co.uk >

Hello list, Anybody familiar with Harold Edward Roberts and his wife Julia Rees. Couple married at Felinfoel in 1932. Do not know if they are still alive and if they had children. Father was Edward Roberts living at Ynyswen, Felinfoel, assitent schoolmaster. Also on his brother David Arthur Roberts who married Betty Evans in 1946 at Holy Trinity, Felinfoel. Possibly at 9 Raglan terrace, Felinfoel. Elwyn - Netherlands.

Can anyone look up birth of Rachel Evan Llanglydwen c1817 Father John Evan (weaver) many thanks David

HI David Think that David Howell is a taylor........Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Howells" <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] John Howell > Can anyone look up births in Henllan Amgoed for me? > Looking for birth of John Howell, father being David > Howell, sailor or tailor! > I have 5 possible dates for Henllan Amgoed Independent > 3/3/1810 > 16/4/1810 > 22/12/1811 > 29/3/1812 > 4/10/1812 > thanks again > David > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi Dave Llangan is the parish next to Henllan Amgoed......if you go to our web site there is a map of Carmarthenshire parishes pre 1830.........on the Pembs border left hand side below Llanboidy is Llangan........ http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk you can enlarge and download this map - handy to locate parishes of that time..... I can see that Llangan registers are CRO (Carmarthen record office - archives) baptisms: 1768-1793 marriages: 1769-1963 burials: 1768-1794 There are bishops transcripts after 1793......but seem to be sketchy.....christening are on the IGI between 1740-1840.....if you want a complete list for the B.T's let me know... These are the records that are in CRO....... I looked in Parish registers of Wales, and it said Llangan check Pembrokeshire..... so unsure - you would have to contact CRO to see what records they do have for Llangan.... hope this does not confuse you Pauline Happy hunting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Howells" <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:24 PM Subject: [Cmn-L] Llangan > Could anyone explain to me Llangan > When I look up Henllan Amgoed it tells me Parish of > Henllan Amgoed and Llangan in Carmarthenshire and > yes I can see H A on the map but when I do a map search for Llangan it > comes up with Llangan in the vale of Glamorgan? > Can anyone put me straight on this please > thanks > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

Hi Sue I mentioned on both our lists about 2 years ago to look for any Harwoods in Colchester......lo and behold a member who was part of genes reunited put me in touch with the long lost cousin I was looking for (through his grand-daughter).....have not met him but my sisters have I have spoken to him on the phone though......only sad thing my mother thought he was deceased as she had not heard from him.....he is now 83 years old......just over a year too late for my mother to know he was still here. So thanks for the offer - found the John Harwood from Swansea I was trying to find too.......turned up he ended his days in Australia not Cardiff (born in St Thomas Swansea) as we thought !!! They were the ones I was trying to find.....but, yet again, found a long lost cousin in Canada.......our great grandmothers were sisters.......its a small world because of this the internet......I found him because he became a member of CHFS.....he asked me do I know about the Charles family from Burry Port.........YES, my grandmothers sister married one.....and we went from there.... If I can think of anyone else will certainly ask regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > Hi Pauline, > Perhaps you had better ask 'us' to look for you mislaid ancestors! > Any time, any help you need ' though I am a bear of little brain' > genealogically speaking. > Cheers, > Sue in LLantrisant > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > > >> Hi Sue >> >> yes keep them in mind........I never have chance to look for my interests >> I am too busy indexing for my own researches....... >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 >> >> >>> Pauline , >>> Many thanks for youe efforts.Not sure that these fit but will take a >>> careful look 'as you never knows' in this game. >>> >>> All good wishes for 2006.May you find what you are looking for . >>> Cheers, >>> Sue in LLantrisant >>> **************************** >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:41 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 >>> >>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> Llandeilo fawr has kindly been indexed by Shirley a member of CFHS so I >>>> have looked here for you. >>>> >>>> Can only see two.... >>>> >>>> 1852 24 June Llandeilo fawr parish church >>>> John Williams or Morgan illig son John Williams of Neath and Elizabeth >>>> Morgan, Copperman >>>> >>>> 1855 16th July >>>> John Williams son David and Elizabeth, Trap Mill, Miller >>>> >>>> could not see any other John's from 1851-1855 >>>> >>>> Pauline >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> >>>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:27 AM >>>> Subject: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi ,could SKS see if they can find >>>>> >>>>> John WILLIAMS >>>>> B 1853 >>>>> Landeilo >>>>> >>>>> Posssibly a Carpenter or wood related occupation. >>>>> Father possibly David >>>>> >>>>> I have given up I must be missing him all the time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any help will be really appreciated. >>>>> Sue in LLantrisant Glam. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: >>>> 20/01/2006 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> questions & Quiries. >> http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: >> 20/01/2006 >> >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

Hi Pat Thanks for that, this is all getting a little frustrating. I notice on the 1851 census, my John Howell is with family living in Llanddowror and has him born Llangan. There is also a Benjamin Howell born Llangan living in Llanddowror aged 16. I can not believe how many Howell there are...very common people we are!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Llangan > Hello Dave > > If you want to look at places in the parish of Llangan (part in Pem and > part in Carmarthenshire) on a current map then look for Whitland. > > Re the Henllan Amgoed records - I have found that most of the birth > records only give the name and date and not the parents names - > unfortunately as many of mine I think were baptised/christened there. > > I haven't seen the actual registers but the transcriptions only > occasionally show a father's name. > > One day I hope to look at the actual records and see for myself. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > In message <001401c61e9e$d0e7b530$2a19c350@fishtank>, Dave Howells > <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >>Could anyone explain to me Llangan >>When I look up Henllan Amgoed it tells me Parish of >>Henllan Amgoed and Llangan in Carmarthenshire and >>yes I can see H A on the map but when I do a map search for Llangan it >>comes >>up with Llangan in the vale of Glamorgan? >>Can anyone put me straight on this please >>thanks >> >> >> >>==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot >>find - >>Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm >>House etc >>etc - He will search the Database >> > > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > >

Hello Dave If you want to look at places in the parish of Llangan (part in Pem and part in Carmarthenshire) on a current map then look for Whitland. Re the Henllan Amgoed records - I have found that most of the birth records only give the name and date and not the parents names - unfortunately as many of mine I think were baptised/christened there. I haven't seen the actual registers but the transcriptions only occasionally show a father's name. One day I hope to look at the actual records and see for myself. Cheers Pat In message <001401c61e9e$d0e7b530$2a19c350@fishtank>, Dave Howells <d.jhowells@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >Could anyone explain to me Llangan >When I look up Henllan Amgoed it tells me Parish of >Henllan Amgoed and Llangan in Carmarthenshire and >yes I can see H A on the map but when I do a map search for Llangan it comes >up with Llangan in the vale of Glamorgan? >Can anyone put me straight on this please >thanks > > > >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot find - >Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm House etc >etc - He will search the Database > -- Pat Powell

Hello Deb I thought you said you had all the census from 1851 onwards - but I've just looked back and seen you have left out 1861. In 1861 Benjamin and family were living in Penquarre in Llanboidy so that would be the name on the death certificate. I'll check out all the details and sent you the full description off list later today or possibly tomorrow. Cheers Pat In message <12f.6d0fd254.31031e2c@aol.com>, Irishcorkgirl@aol.com writes >Hi All: I received a death certificate for my ancestor Benjamin Beynon who >died in 1862. I am having difficulty reading the handwriting and I am hoping >someone familiar with the area can tell me if I am deciphering the placenames >correctly: >He died in: Pencwarau?? Llanboidy and his witness ( Dan Davies) lived in >Fifynnon ? even, Cilmaenllwyd. Any help in figuring these names out would be >appreciated. Thanks, Deb > > >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research questions >& Quiries. >http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > -- Pat Powell

Can anyone look up births in Henllan Amgoed for me? Looking for birth of John Howell, father being David Howell, sailor or tailor! I have 5 possible dates for Henllan Amgoed Independent 3/3/1810 16/4/1810 22/12/1811 29/3/1812 4/10/1812 thanks again David

Could anyone explain to me Llangan When I look up Henllan Amgoed it tells me Parish of Henllan Amgoed and Llangan in Carmarthenshire and yes I can see H A on the map but when I do a map search for Llangan it comes up with Llangan in the vale of Glamorgan? Can anyone put me straight on this please thanks

Hi Pauline, Perhaps you had better ask 'us' to look for you mislaid ancestors! Any time, any help you need ' though I am a bear of little brain' genealogically speaking. Cheers, Sue in LLantrisant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > Hi Sue > > yes keep them in mind........I never have chance to look for my interests > I am too busy indexing for my own researches....... > > Pauline > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > > >> Pauline , >> Many thanks for youe efforts.Not sure that these fit but will take a >> careful look 'as you never knows' in this game. >> >> All good wishes for 2006.May you find what you are looking for . >> Cheers, >> Sue in LLantrisant >> **************************** >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 >> >> >>> Sue >>> >>> Llandeilo fawr has kindly been indexed by Shirley a member of CFHS so I >>> have looked here for you. >>> >>> Can only see two.... >>> >>> 1852 24 June Llandeilo fawr parish church >>> John Williams or Morgan illig son John Williams of Neath and Elizabeth >>> Morgan, Copperman >>> >>> 1855 16th July >>> John Williams son David and Elizabeth, Trap Mill, Miller >>> >>> could not see any other John's from 1851-1855 >>> >>> Pauline >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> >>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:27 AM >>> Subject: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi ,could SKS see if they can find >>>> >>>> John WILLIAMS >>>> B 1853 >>>> Landeilo >>>> >>>> Posssibly a Carpenter or wood related occupation. >>>> Father possibly David >>>> >>>> I have given up I must be missing him all the time. >>>> >>>> >>>> Any help will be really appreciated. >>>> Sue in LLantrisant Glam. >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: >>> 20/01/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > >

Hi Sue yes keep them in mind........I never have chance to look for my interests I am too busy indexing for my own researches....... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > Pauline , > Many thanks for youe efforts.Not sure that these fit but will take a > careful look 'as you never knows' in this game. > > All good wishes for 2006.May you find what you are looking for . > Cheers, > Sue in LLantrisant > **************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > > >> Sue >> >> Llandeilo fawr has kindly been indexed by Shirley a member of CFHS so I >> have looked here for you. >> >> Can only see two.... >> >> 1852 24 June Llandeilo fawr parish church >> John Williams or Morgan illig son John Williams of Neath and Elizabeth >> Morgan, Copperman >> >> 1855 16th July >> John Williams son David and Elizabeth, Trap Mill, Miller >> >> could not see any other John's from 1851-1855 >> >> Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:27 AM >> Subject: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 >> >> >>> >>> Hi ,could SKS see if they can find >>> >>> John WILLIAMS >>> B 1853 >>> Landeilo >>> >>> Posssibly a Carpenter or wood related occupation. >>> Father possibly David >>> >>> I have given up I must be missing him all the time. >>> >>> >>> Any help will be really appreciated. >>> Sue in LLantrisant Glam. >>> >>> >>> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >>> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >>> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: >> 20/01/2006 >> >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

David Many thanks for your efforts here. Yes they are earlier than my Jenkins' but at least I am excluding parts of the puzzle. You never know, they may be part of the extended family! Again my thanks Glen --- David Davies <felinfoel71@yahoo.com> wrote: > Glen > > Here are the Jenkins records from the Ffynnonhenri > Baptist Chapel in Conwil. Note as usual the > interpretation is subject to difficulties. The > births looked interesting but I think they are too > old for your David and Elizabeth > > Births > > John son of David and Elizabeth Jenkins of > Crampyddolon Conwil > Registered July 3rd 1807 > Stephen son of David and Elizabeth Jenkins of > Crampyddolon Conwil > Registered Jan 6th 1813 > ( I know of a Crampy Selen in Conwil in 1841 but > not a Crampddolon, could be the same place, in 1841 > this David and Elizabeth Jenkins were at Weinhavod > Conwil Elvet) > > Baptised > > Ann Jenkins Fellinwalter 1823 > Jane Jenkins Nantbendigaid 1817 > John Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1824 > Sara Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1829 > ( these are all well known farms in Conwil, my 4 g > grandfather farmed Nantbendigaid) > > Expelled > John Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1828 > John Jenkins Gudwngwyn 1834 > Jane Jenkins 1820 > > Died > Jane Jenkins? Crampyddolon 1821 > Mary Jenkins Nantyclawdd 1831 > > Dave Davies > Boulder CO > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire & South Wales Information in > Photographs & Information > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

Do not know if anyone can help, I am still looking for the birth of John Howell According to 1851 census born Llangan with age born circa 1812 The only birth I have found so far is as mentioned before 13.11.1813 Henllan Amgoed So think I need to focus on Llangan rgds David Howells

Pauline , Many thanks for youe efforts.Not sure that these fit but will take a careful look 'as you never knows' in this game. All good wishes for 2006.May you find what you are looking for . Cheers, Sue in LLantrisant **************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > Sue > > Llandeilo fawr has kindly been indexed by Shirley a member of CFHS so I > have looked here for you. > > Can only see two.... > > 1852 24 June Llandeilo fawr parish church > John Williams or Morgan illig son John Williams of Neath and Elizabeth > Morgan, Copperman > > 1855 16th July > John Williams son David and Elizabeth, Trap Mill, Miller > > could not see any other John's from 1851-1855 > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:27 AM > Subject: [Cmn-L] John williams 1853 > > >> >> Hi ,could SKS see if they can find >> >> John WILLIAMS >> B 1853 >> Landeilo >> >> Posssibly a Carpenter or wood related occupation. >> Father possibly David >> >> I have given up I must be missing him all the time. >> >> >> Any help will be really appreciated. >> Sue in LLantrisant Glam. >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > >