Selling any paperback book for nearly $100 is highway robbery, in my opinion. I wouldn't pay it Bill Davenport

This is in response to Susan's (EAlt117@aol.com) posting to the CARLOCK list yesterday. I do not find that the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929, is currently available through either of the following sites: <A HREF="http://www.heritagebooks.com/">Heritage Books, Inc.</A> or <A HREF="http://www.heritagebookshop.com/">Heritage Book Shop, Inc.</A> However, in addition to the <A HREF="http://www.higginsonbooks.com/">Higginson Book Company</A> site mentioned in my previous posting, I have also found the book to be available at the following site: <A HREF="http://www.borders.com/sections/section_11807.html">Borders.com</A>. The Borders.com site offers 1997 library binding for $107.50 and 1997 trade paperback for $97.50. As mentioned in my previous posting, the Higginson Book Company sells the book for $97.50. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A> -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- Subj: Re: "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929 Date: 11/16/2000 9:28:32 PM Central Standard Time From: EAlt117@aol.com To: CARLOCK-L@rootsweb.com In a message dated 11/16/2000 9:33:42 PM, SCearlock@aol.com writes: << CARLOCK. History of the Carlock family & adventures of pioneer Americans, including the Kimbrough, Goodpasture, Hoyl, Fite, Fancher, Lee, Wells & other connecting families, by Marion P. Carlock. 654 p. 1929. $97.50 >> I think I only paid about $60 for this book through Heritage Books, about a year or year and a half ago. Susan EAlt117@aol.com

In a message dated 11/16/2000 9:33:42 PM, SCearlock@aol.com writes: << CARLOCK. History of the Carlock family & adventures of pioneer Americans, including the Kimbrough, Goodpasture, Hoyl, Fite, Fancher, Lee, Wells & other connecting families, by Marion P. Carlock. 654 p. 1929. $97.50 >> I think I only paid about $60 for this book through Heritage Books, about a year or year and a half ago. Susan EAlt117@aol.com

Following is an e-mail I received today in response to my query about the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. The Higginson Publishing Company site can be accessed through the following hyperlink: <A HREF="http://search.aol.com/redirect.adp?appname=QBP&query=%04%f6%22%55%52%b4% 6f%78%85%24%a0%97%fa%98%85%d8%96%46%12%5a%d9%e8%6a%f2%08%5f%6f%1c%a5%56%24%ee% 84%04%8b%68%b5%87%a9%77%32%46%42%39%0a%b4%7f%05%42%c4%56%31%f1%e7%a6%b8%40%09% e5%f9%9a%aa%84%d8%a2%c7%17%89%d4%6d%da%ce%1a%a3%84%67%97%5b%55%32">Higginson Book Company</A>. A search for the word "Carlock" on the search engine at that site brings up the following two listings: CARLOCK. History of the Carlock family & adventures of pioneer Americans, including the Kimbrough, Goodpasture, Hoyl, Fite, Fancher, Lee, Wells & other connecting families, by Marion P. Carlock. 654 p. 1929. $97.50 JUDY. History & genealogy of the Judy-Judah-Tschudy-Tschudin-Shudi family who have lived in America, Switzerland & other countries of the world, including the well known connecting families in America. By Marion P. Carlock. 576 p. 1954. $86.00. According to page 472 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK was the son of Madison P. CARLOCK and Nancy Ellen JUDY. According to page 478, Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK's line, starting with David (p. 436), is David, Hanchrist, Abraham, Abraham Willard, Madison P., then Marion Pomeroy. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A> -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- Subj: RE: "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929 Date: 11/16/2000 6:54:32 PM Central Standard Time From: barbara@carlocksbakery.com (Barbara Carlock) To: SCearlock@aol.com I recently purchased a reprint of this book from the Higginson Publishing Company, and it is very nice! You can contact them on their web site or write them at 148 Washington Street, PO Box 778, Salem, Massachusetts 01970. E-mail higginsn@cove.com. Phone is (978)745-8025. Credit cards only. Takes about 8 weeks. And they do have a catalog with other family books. Worth the money! Good luck. Barbara Carlock

I received the following e-mail yesterday from an individual who is interested in purchasing a copy of the book "History of the Carlock Family" by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. Following are excerpts from postings on this subject which have appeared on the CEARLOCK list over the past year. Does anyone have any new information to add regarding the availability of this book? On the CEARLOCK list, Dec. 26, 1999, I wrote the following: "I have a copy of the book 'History of the Carlock Family', by Marion Pomeroy Carlock, 1929. If you are interested in purchasing a copy, contact Jerry Lee Carlock; Box 1; Bath, IL 62617. Jerry previously had the book reprinted, but apparently sold all of those copies. Another researcher recently told me that Jerry is making a list of names of people who would be interested in purchasing a copy if the book were to be reprinted again." Also on the CEARLOCK list, Jan. 29, 2000, Georgia JOHNSON (w002067@airmail.net) wrote the following: "Regarding the 12/26/99 posting about Jerry Lee Carlock and the book 'History of the Carlock Family', by Marion Pomeroy Carlock, 1929. I tried sending a letter to the address in the posting and it came back. I then did a people search and sent another letter to a more specific address and that one came back too. I am very interested in this book. Can anyone help?" On the CEARLOCK list, Apr. 7, 2000, I wrote the following: "In reply to Georgia JOHNSON's query of January 29th, I see that the book 'History of the Carlock Family', by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929, is available on-line at the Barnes & Noble site: http://bn.com/." In reply to that message, Alicia CARLOCK MASON (sjmasonjr@www.att.net) wrote the following on Apr. 7, 2000: "If I can get a large enough order I know how to get the Carlock book basically at cost. If you are interested I can call my uncle. Last year he said the cost was between $60 & $100. I don't remember the exact figure." Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A> -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- Subj: Carlock Family Date: 11/15/2000 8:44:19 PM Central Standard Time From: slmcguire@hotmail.com (Sandra Mc Guire) To: SCearlock@aol.com Dear Sue, I am also a desendant of George and Racheal Carlock. In your posting on the surname browser, you mention a book. It is " History of the Carlock Family" by Marion Pomeroy. Do you know where I could get a copy of this book? I am new to all this stuff and am still wet behind the ears. Any information you could share would be a great help. Thanks, Sandra Mc Guire slmcguire@hotmail.com

[NOTE: Not being as familiar with Illinois geography as I would like, I looked up Thompsonville and Benton, Illinois, to see how far they are from Union County. Both Thompsonville and Benton are in Franklin County, which is not too far north-northeast of Union County. Both counties are in the southern part of the state. -- Sue] From: Jason Carlock To: Susan Tilleman Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Avis Irene CARLOCK, b. 1908, m. MCCURRIE Thank you for the information. There seems to be a strange coincidence that my grandparents' names were Avis and Irene and the person you found is named Avis Irene, no? I shall do more investigating. Again, thank you. JC -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE #2----- From: <stilleman@satx.rr.com> To: <CARLOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Avis Irene CARLOCK, b. 1908, m. MCCURRIE This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARLOCK, MCCURRIE Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zdH.2ACEB/164.2 Message Board Post: This is in response to Jason J. CARLOCK's (jcwordslinger@hotmail.com) Aug. 16th posting to the Rootsweb CARLOCK Message Board titled "Looking for Carlock's". There is probably no connection to the person you are looking for, but I find an Avis Irene CARLOCK (child of Willard Franklin, Thomas Eber, James Calvin, "Eber", George, Frederick, David), b. 12 Nov. 1908, m. MCCURRIE, on page 627 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. Avis's father was born in Union Co., IL. I do not find anyone else named Avis in my database at this time. -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE #1----- From: <jcwordslinger@hotmail.com> To: <CARLOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Looking for Carlock's This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carlock, Titsworth Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zdH.2ACEB/164 Message Board Post: Can anyone help me find my proper linkage to the Carlock line? My grandfather's name was Avis Carlock who lived in Thompsonville/Benton, IL. I don't know anything past that.

I cannot access the most current copy of my database until I finish some upgrading. Can anyone else help Tonia with these Union Co., IL, and Cape Girardeau Co., MO, CARLOCKs? Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A> -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- Subj: James Calvin Carlock Date: 10/17/2000 9:59:42 PM Central Daylight Time From: toni_gen@juno.com (Tonia Lee) To: SCearlock@aol.com Evening Sue, I want to ask if any of my Carlock's match your's. ... Thank you, Tonia Descendants of James Calvin Carlock Generation No. 1 1. JAMES CALVIN1 CARLOCK He married ISABELLE ELEANOR LITTLETON 18 Mar 1849 in Union County, Illinois. Child of JAMES CARLOCK and ISABELLE LITTLETON is: 2. i. FRANCIS MARION2 CARLOCK, b. 7 Oct 1855; d. 9 Nov 1909, Union County, Illinois. Generation No. 2 2. FRANCIS MARION2 CARLOCK (JAMES CALVIN1) was born 7 Oct 1855, and died 9 Nov 1909 in Union County, Illinois. He married LAURA ANN PEELER 13 Dec 1879 in Jonesboro, Union County, Illinois. She was born 1860, and died 1945. Children of FRANCIS CARLOCK and LAURA PEELER are: i. FLOYD MARION3 CARLOCK. ii. EDWARD F. CARLOCK, d. 1945. iii. ARVEL BARNARD CARLOCK, b. 1884. iv. ETHEL LUCY CARLOCK, b. 1886. v. EMORY ELLIS CARLOCK, b. 1888. vi. GRACE F. CARLOCK, b. 1892; m. HERMAN A. WAFFLER. 3. vii. FRED WILLARD CARLOCK, b. 1 Nov 1893; d. May 1969, Cape Girardeau, Cape Girardeau County, Missouri 63701. Generation No. 3 3. FRED WILLARD3 CARLOCK (FRANCIS MARION2, JAMES CALVIN1) was born 1 Nov 1893, and died May 1969 in Cape Girardeau, Cape Girardeau County, Missouri 63701. He married LILLIAN CHLOE TREECE 2 Jul 1933 in Blytheville, Mississippi County, Arkansas, daughter of GEORGE TREECE and MARGARET FREEMAN. She was born 25 Jan 1902 in Steele, Pemiscot County, Missouri, and died 13 Jun 1984 in Cape Girardeau County, Missouri. Notes for FRED WILLARD CARLOCK: Individual: Carlock, Fred Social Security #: 702-07-1199 Issued in: Railroad Board Birth date: 1 Nov 1893 Death date: May 1969 Residence code: Missouri ZIP Code of last known residence: 63701 Primary location associated with this ZIP Code: Cape Girardeau, Missouri Notes for LILLIAN CHLOE TREECE: Twin sister died at 23 days. Children of FRED CARLOCK and LILLIAN TREECE are: i. MARGARET4 CARLOCK. ii. JEAN CARLOCK.

--part1_74.3982f4e.270d393e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_74.3982f4e.270d393e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:40:37 -0400 Received: from lists3.rootsweb.com (lists3.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.39]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:40:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e942eNO20222 for CARLOCK-admin@lists3.rootsweb.com; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:40:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:40:23 -0700 X-From_: Tebjeb1@aol.com Tue Oct 3 19:40:22 2000 Received: from newmail.rootsweb.com (newmail.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.103]) by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e942eMY20179 for <CARLOCK-D-request@lists3.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:40:22 -0700 Received: from imo-r13.mail.aol.com (imo-r13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by newmail.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e942eMA12782 for <CARLOCK-D-request@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:40:22 -0700 Received: from Tebjeb1@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.24.) id e.be.a21e874 (4405) for <CARLOCK-D-request@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:39:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Tebjeb1@aol.com Message-ID: <be.a21e874.270bf27d@aol.com> Old-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:39:57 EDT Subject: subscribe&body=subscribe To: CARLOCK-D-request@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 119 X-Diagnostic: Added to the subscriber list X-Envelope-To: CARLOCK-D-request John Thomas Carlock was my Great Grandfather and I would like to get more info. to research my history of the Carlock's. I can possibly help out on some names and other info. if needed. Thank you, Jane Ellen Carlock Boothe (named after Great-aunts) --part1_74.3982f4e.270d393e_boundary--

Yesterday I wrote the following: "In fact, it is possible that the daughter listed for Frederick CARLOCK, Jr. (s/o Frederick, David) listed on page 437 of the book 'History of the Carlock Family', by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929, may have actually been a male named David and the ancestor of George CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, b. ca. 1779, NC, who m. Rachel LANDERS, 11 Oct 1805, Warren Co., KY, and Catherine CARLOCK, b. NC, who m. James HENDRICKS, 10 Oct 1908, Warren Co., Ky." David would instead be a son of Frederick, Sr., not a son of Frederick, Jr. I guess my fingers were typing faster than my brain was operating. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A>

The following article originally appeared on the SNOW list and was forwarded to another list to which I subscribe. It is such a good article that I wanted to pass it along. I have actually found some of these situations in my own research. In fact, it is possible that the daughter listed for Frederick CARLOCK, Jr. (s/o Frederick, David) listed on page 437 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929, may have actually been a male named David and the ancestor of George CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, b. ca. 1779, NC, who m. Rachel LANDERS, 11 Oct 1805, Warren Co., KY, and Catherine CARLOCK, b. NC, who m. James HENDRICKS, 10 Oct 1908, Warren Co., Ky. I recently received information from one of the subscribers to the CEARLOCK list which supports this theory. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A> -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- >From: RLugowski@aol.com >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:11:14 EDT > >The below article is posted in the archives on Genealogy.com > >Impossible and Improbable by Donna Przecha > >Genealogy thrives as a rewarding hobby because most people in the past lived >orderly lives. We expect them to be born, marry, have children and die, and >that there will be someone to record most of these events somewhere. Usually >this is exactly what happens. All we have to do is find out where these >events were recorded. However, occasionally we come across events that just >do not fit into the orderly scheme of things. Sometimes they seem to be >highly improbable or completely impossible. > >Disowned Children > >In past times marrying outside the family's religion, race, culture or social >class was considered by some to be taboo. If children violated this rule, >some families would disown them and even declare them dead. In one case the >parents not only declared the child dead but went so far as to erect a >tombstone with her name and her marriage date as the death date. People who >were mentally ill or physically deformed might be sent off to an asylum or >hospital and the family would act as if they were dead. They might be >recorded in the family Bible as having died, so when you find the individual >in a census you will be thoroughly confused! A daughter might also be >disowned if she became pregnant and was not married or a son cut out of the >family if he ended up in prison. Obituaries were generally provided by the >families, and facts and children who did not suit the image the family wished >to project could be omitted. If a child was not mentioned in the obituary in >the local hometown paper, it didn't mean the child didn't exist or was >deceased. > >Finding disowned children can be very difficult because they often moved a >long way from their original home to a completely different environment. >Someone from Connecticut might move to Idaho or Texas for no apparent reason. >With more national indexes becoming available, it is easier to locate these >people. Since most census indexes are still on a state-by-state basis, you >almost have to check each state as there is no predicting where they might >have gone. > >The names of disowned children might turn up in a will or probate. In a will >the parent might want to mention the child just to be sure he or she is cut >out of the inheritance. If there was no will, all living children would need >to be named in legal documents relating to an inheritance. > In past times marrying outside the family's religion, race, culture or >social class was considered by some to be taboo. If children violated this >rule, some families would disown them and even declare them dead. > >Bigamy > >Even in this day of instant communication with cell phones, pagers and the >Internet, you can still pick up the paper and read about a man who was >married to different women and had two different families, each of which was >unknown to the other. (Why a man would want the responsibilities of two >families and keeping them secret is beyond me!) In the past it was so much >easier to acquire two wives, although it was more often serial rather than >concurrent. If a man from Virginia went to California to look for gold, he >might decide after a couple of fruitless years that he didn't want to go home >and face the ridicule of his family and neighbors. He might decide to just >settle down in California, perhaps open a store or take up farming and marry >a girl he met there. Since he may have stopped writing to his family in >Virginia months ago, he would hardly feel it was necessary to go to all the >trouble and agony of trying to get a divorce. He might even send back an >announcement of his death just to close that chapter of his life. > Even in this day of instant communication, you can still pick up the paper >and read about a man who was married to different women and had two different >families, each of which was unknown to the other. > >When a husband disappears, the wife usually goes through the legal process to >have him declared dead after a certain period of time. You might encounter >the family with the husband in one census and in the next find the wife >listed as a widow. This would lead you to believe he died in the meantime and >you would look for cemetery records, obituaries, wills and death records. If >he simply disappeared, you will not find any of these and may need to explore >court records for a legal document declaring him dead. Of course, he may not >really be dead at all. > >Name Changes > >Many men, especially new immigrants, found it too overwhelming to try to >support a family and just walked off and were never heard from again. They >might even change their names, settle down in a new area and get married >again. This is very difficult to track and document, but one place where this >could come out is in military pension records. If a man was in the Civil War, >his first wife would know he was entitled to a pension and would apply for >one when it became obvious he was never coming back, and could be presumed >dead. If he remarried under another name, he might feel enough loyalty to his >second wife to disclose his military service and the name under which he >enlisted. Once he died and the second wife applied for her pension, both >applications would end up with the same service record. > >If you suspect a possible name change, be sure to consult as many legal or >official documents as possible. > >If you suspect a possible name change, be sure to consult as many legal or >official documents as possible, such as pension papers, wills, naturalization >papers or land deeds. Even if a man changed names he might think he had to >include his "also known as" (AKA) name to be sure the transaction was valid, >fearing the original name might come out at some point and nullify the action. > >A woman could create genealogical confusion by not changing her name. If a >woman had a child out of wedlock, she might move to another town, keep her >maiden name but call herself Mrs., claiming she was a widow. Even if people >knew she had never married, a mother would be called Mrs. as a courtesy >because it would be embarrassing to all concerned to suggest that an >unmarried woman had a child. > >In African-American research, many people assume that a freed slave would >take the family name of the person who had owned him before emancipation. In >fact, the freed slaves could take any name they liked and many experimented >with several names before settling on one. Siblings might choose different >surnames so it is not obvious to a researcher that they are related. A parent >might have lived on a different plantation and select a different name from >the child. Many chose names of famous people or people they admired, so the >surname may or may not be significant for the researcher. > Freed slaves could take any name they liked, so the surname may or may not >be significant for the researcher. > >Duplicate Names > >Sometimes a researcher looking through baptism records will find a couple who >gave the same name to two different children. A look at the burials usually >reveals that the first child with that name died before the second one was >born. In some cases no such death is found. In fact, both children seem to >live, grow up and produce their own records. This can cause the researcher a >bit of confusion and reexamination of the records. For some reason perhaps a >lack of imagination? parents will give children almost identical names. In >one family there was a John and a Jonathan, and both lived to adulthood. Mary >and Maria are also possibilities. > >Sometimes, especially in German names, the first name would be the same for >all children of the same sex, but the second name would be different. A >family might consist of Johann Georg, Johann Wilhelm, Johann Josef, Anna >Barbara, Anna Maria and Anna Theresa. Needless to say, the children usually >went by their middle names and the children might be known as Georg, Johann, >Josef, Barbara, Anna and Theresa. In later records, they might reverse the >name since the middle name was the one usually used. This means you almost >have to follow the lives of all the brothers to be sure who was really >Johann. Just to confuse matters, Georg and Josef might use their official >first name, Johann, on a record. > Sometimes, especially in German names, the first name would be the same >for all children of the same sex, but the second name would be different. > >Informal Adoptions > >Very often in the past, adoptions were very informally arranged. A woman >might have a child that she really couldn't care for, because of health or >financial reasons, while her sister might have wanted a child but was unable >to have one. It might be agreed between the two families that the child would >be given to the other to raise. No papers were signed or legal documents >filed. Similarly, a foundling might be taken in by a family and simply raised >as their own. > >Wrong Sex > >We have all encountered a person being classified as a male in one census and >a female in another. This frequently happens with unusual names, or names >that can be either sex, and usually it is just an error on the part of the >census taker. However, there have been cases where children have been raised >as if they were the opposite sex. Boys were dressed like girls when they were >small and a mother who wanted a girl and was unable to have any more children >might well continue that deception until the child revolted. Sex change >operations were not possible 100 years ago but people could live as if they >were the opposite sex. A woman might be especially tempted to masquerade as a >man if she wished to be a soldier or a cowboy or follow some equally >masculine occupation. Very recently a well-known band leader died and it was >found that he, even though he was married, was actually a woman and no one >knew. > We have all encountered a person being classified as a male in one census >and a female in another. This is usually just an error on the part of the >census taker, but alternate explanations are sometimes possible. > >Race Change > >While following a family back through the census you might find a person who >had always been classified as white, listed as mulatto, meaning a mixture of >white and African ancestry. While we know the census taker often made >mistakes, this might mean there is African-American ancestry in that line. >Appearance played a big part in racial designation and when possible, many >people of mixed ancestry would "pass" for white when they could. The children >of Sally Hemings are a good example. (Whether or not you believe Thomas >Jefferson was the father, it is generally accepted that the father of the >Hemings children was white.) > >Sally herself was 1/4 black, as her father and maternal grandfather were both >white. Her children were only 1/8 black. They all drifted off, with or >without permission, and settled elsewhere. Eston at first settled in Ohio and >in 1852 moved to Wisconsin where he changed his name from Hemings to >Jefferson and his race to white. Eston's descendants did not even know of >their black ancestry. Beverly (a son) and Harriet apparently disappeared into >white society. Thomas became a minister in the African Methodist church and >Madison stayed in the black community. > >Many people, especially in the south, have both white and black ancestry. >Given the conditions and disadvantages under which blacks, even free ones, >had to live, it made sense to be classified as white if at all possible. It >made their lives and the lives of their families much easier. > Many people, especially in the south, have both white and black ancestry. >Given the conditions and disadvantages under which blacks, even free ones, >had to live, many people of mixed ancestry would "pass" for white when they >could. > >Facing the Impossible > >I would not encourage anyone to look for any of these extreme situations in >his or her own family research, but if the impossible or the improbable >appears, keep an open mind. If you come across one of these situations, this >line may be truncated. Even if you do manage to work around it, it will take >much research and documentation to gather enough evidence to prove what >really happened. However, if you do manage to piece the whole story together, >it will probably be the highlight of your family history! > >Ruth in NC

A search of the CARLOCK-L archives at the following site brings up a posting from subscriber Kenneth Harrington McKeever, Ph.D., (mckeever@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU) inquiring if anyone on the list is researching the Ramapo, NY/Bergen Co., NJ, CARLOUGH/CARLOCK family: <A HREF="http://lists.rootsweb.com/">RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists</A>. Note that information about the descendants of Johann Christian GERLACH/GARLOCK/CARLOCK, b. 1669, Palatinate, Germany, appears on pages 418 through 422 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929, and that information about the descendants of Coenraad "Conrad" GERLACH/CARLOCK, b. 1660, France or Germany, appears on pages 422 through 435 of the same book. Both of these individuals had descendants living in the New York/New Jersey area. According to the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service site of the LDS Church, Johann Christian GERLACH/GARLOCK/CARLOCK, Coenraad "Conrad" GERLACH/CARLOCK, and David GERLACH/CARLOCK, listed on page 436 of "History of the Carlock Family", were brothers. For further information on this subject, search the following site for Hans GERLACH who married Anna Maria KUMMER: <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/default.asp?errmsg=You+must+enter+a+first+an d+last+name%2C+or+you+must+enter+a+father%27s+full+name%2C+and+at+least+mother %27s+first+name%2E&first_name=&last_name=&fathers_first_name=&fathers_last_nam e=&mothers_first_name=&mothers_last_name=&spouses_first_name=&spouses_last_nam e=&event_index=0&to_date=&from_date=&juris1=&juris2=&juris3=&juris1index=&juri s2index=&juris1friendly=&juris2friendly=&date_range=&standardize=">FamilySearc h Internet Genealogy Service</A>. The same individuals can be found in the report titled "Home User Genealogy Report: Descendants of Hans GERLACH/GARLOCK/CARLOCK", which appears on my home page through the following hyperlink: <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A>. There are also GARLOCK, GERLACH, and GARLICK Family Genealogy Forums which can be accessed through the following sites: <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/garlock/">Garlock Family Genealogy Forum</ A>, <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/finder.cgi?find=Gerlach">Gerl ach Family Genealogy Forum</A>, and <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/finder.cgi?find=Garlick">Garl ick Family Genealogy Forum</A>, as well as GARLOCK, GERLACH, and GARLICK Rootsweb mailing lists. Furthermore, a search of the following site brings up one land patent record for the surname CARLOUGH and numerous land patent records for the surnames GARLOCK, GERLACH, and GARLICK: <A HREF="http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/search.asp">BLM - ES, GLO Records - Search Land Patents</A>. The site includes patent descriptions, legal land descriptions, document images, and instructions for online ordering of certified copies. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A>

Did you know that some CARLOCKs have ancestors who used the spelling CEARLOCK? One example can be found in the photograph titled "Henry HICKS Family of Fayette Co., IL, ca. 1891", which appears on my home page. Thomas CARLOCK (b. 1869) who appears in this picture had ancestors who used the spelling "CEARLOCK", and appears in the photograph with two of his first cousins who used the spelling "CEARLOCK". Please consult the report titled "User Home Page Genealogy Report: Descendants of CARLOCK" for further information about Thomas's ancestry. In the very near future I hope to be able to combine the two CARLOCK reports which appear on my home page into one. New information has come to my attention which leads me to believe that Thomas's great-grandfather George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, b. ca. 1779, NC, may have been a grandson of Frederick CARLOCK, Jr. (s/o Frederick, David), who appears on page 437 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. A second line of CEARLOCKs can trace their ancestry back to Lemuel CARLOCK (s/o Hanchrist, David), who also appears on the same page. For further information about the CEARLOCK and CARELOCK families, please consult the CEARLOCK-L archives through the following site: <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/">RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists</A >. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A>

A search of the following site brings up several CARLOCK land patent records: <A HREF="http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/search.asp">BLM - ES, GLO Records - Search Land Patents</A>. The site includes patent descriptions, legal land descriptions, document images, and instructions for online ordering of certified copies. Patentees include: Abraham CARLOCK (2 patents), McLean Co., IL, 1833 Abraham CARLOCK (1 patent), Woodford Co., IL, 1837 Abraham CARLOCK (1 patent), Schuyler Co., IL, 1840 Abraham W. CARLOCK (2 patents), McLean & Woodford Cos., IL, 1833 Abraham W. CARLOCK (1 patents), McLean & Woodford Cos., IL, 1837 Albert B. CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1889 Asael CARLOCK (1 patent), Polk Co., MO, 1853 Asahel CARLOCK (1 patent), 1882, Polk Co., MO Benjamin L. CARLOCK (2 patents), 1838, DeKalb Co., MO Calvin CARLOCK (1 patent), 1849, Union Co., IL Cornelius CARLOCK (1 patent), 1860, Ashley Co., AR Dan W. CARLOCK (1 patent), 1911, Douglas Co., WA David CARLOCK (1 patent), 1835, Morgan Co., IL Dillard A. CARLOCK (1 patent), Wibaux Co., IL, 1912 Duke A. CARLOCK (1 patent), Darke Co., OH, 1831 Edward CARLOCK (1 patent), Cotton Co., OK, 1910 Elizabeth C. CARLOCK (1 patent), Gem and Boise Cos., ID, 1911 Elizabeth C. CARLOCK, heirs of (1 patent), Gem and Boise Cos., ID, 1915 Emily C. CARLOCK (1 patent), Lake Co., OR, 1920 Frank H. CARLOCK (1 patent), Gila Co., AZ, 1915 George CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean Co., IL, 1833 George CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean Co., IL, 1837 George CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean & Woodford Cos., IL, 1837 George F. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dundy Co., NE, 1912 George H. CARLOCK (1 patent), Kern Co., CA, 1875 George M. CARLOCK (1 patent), Clark Co., MO, 1848 George M. CARLOCK (1 patent), Clark Co., MO, 1850 George O. CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean and Woodford Cos., IL, 1833 George O. CARLOCK (1 patent), Woodford Co., IL, 1835 George O. CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean Co., IL, 1839 George O. CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean and Woodford Cos., IL, 1839 George O. CARLOCK (1 patent), Gentry Co., IL, 1851 George O. CARLOCK (1 patent), Gentry Co., IL, 1854 H. Marshall CARLOCK (1 patent), Pacific Co., WA, 1905 Hattie Edna CARLOCK (1 patent), Kern Co., CA, 1903 Henderson CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1875 Henderson CARLOCK (1 patent), St. Louis Co., MN, 1880 (Is this a typo and "MN" should be "MO"?) Henry CARLOCK (1 patent), Warren Co., IL, 1818 Henry CARLOCK (2 patents), Gentry Co., MO, 1848 Henry CARLOCK (1 patent), Gentry Co., MO, 1851 Henry CARLOCK (1 patent), Gentry Co., MO, 1852 Henry C. CARLOCK (1 patent), Franklin Co., MS, 1897 Henry N. CARLOCK (1 patent), Klickitat Co., WA, 1898 Herbert D. CARLOCK (1 patent), Greer Co., OK, 1912 Isaac CARLOCK (1 patent), De Witt Co., IL, 1833 Isaac CARLOCK (1 patent), De Witt Co., IL, 1834 Isaac CARLOCK (1 patent), De Witt Co., IL, 1839 Isaac CARLOCK (1 patent), Livingston Co., IL, 1839 Isaac CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1848 Isaac F. CARLOCK (3 patents), Dade Co., MO, 1853 Isaac F. CARLOCK (2 patents), Dade Co., MO, 1859 Isaac N. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1858 Jacob CARLOCK (1 patent), Fayette Co., IL, 1848 Jacob CARLOCK (1 patent), Kern Co., CA, 1875 Jacob CARLOCK (1 patent), Kern Co., CA 1882 Jacob G. CARLOCK (1 patent), Vernon Co., LA, 1889 James H. CARLOCK (1 patent), Yuma Co., CO, 1916 James W. CARLOCK (1 patent), Conway Co., AR, 1888 John CARLOCK (1 patent), Morgan Co., IL, 1829 John CARLOCK (1 patent), Morgan Co., IL, 1830 John CARLOCK (1 patent), Brown Co., IL, 1840 John CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1845 John CARLOCK (3 patents), Madison Co., AR, 1856 John CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1857 John CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1880 John A. CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1876 John A. CARLOCK (1 patent), Placer Co., CA, 1883 John F. CARLOCK (2 patents), Fallon Co., MT, 1912 John G. CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean/Woodford Co., IL, 1835 John H. CARLOCK (1 patent), Fayette Co., IL, 1854 John J. CARLOCK (1 patent), Itasca Co., MN, 1906 John J. CARLOCK (1 patent), Yuma Co., CO, 1916 John L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., IL, 1835 John L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., IL, 1839 John N. CARLOCK (1 patent), Douglas Co., WA, 1909 John N. CARLOCK (2 patents), Douglas Co., WA, 1911 John S. CARLOCK (1 patent), Cotton Co., OK, 1910 John T. CARLOCK (1 patent), Vernon Co., LA, 1905 John W. CARLOCK (1 patent), Conway Co., AR, 1883 John W. CARLOCK (1 patent), Perry Co., AR, 1906 Joseph L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Rio Arriba Co., NM, 1934 Joseph S. CARLOCK (2 patents), Franklin Co., MS, 1859 Joseph S. CARLOCK (1 patent), Franklin Co., MS, 1860 Konstantin CARLOCK (1 patent), Waukesha Co., WI, 1855 Lemuel L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1848 Lemuel L. CARLOCK (3 patents), Dade Co., MO, 1853 Lemuel L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1854 Lemuel L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1859 Lemuel L. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1860 Mahala CARLOCK (1 patent), McLean and Woodford Cos., IL, 1837 Mamie A. CARLOCK (1 patent), Fallon Co., MT, 1913 Marion P. CARLOCK (1 patent), Tripp Co., SD, 1911 Martha R. CARLOCK (1 patent), Perry Co., AR, 1906 Moses CARLOCK (1 patent), Morgan Co., IL, 1827 Moses CARLOCK (1 patent), Lawrence Co., AL, 1831 Moses CARLOCK (1 patent), Lawrence Co., AL, 1833 Moses F. CARLOCK (2 patents), Douglas Co., WA, 1910 Nancy E. CARLOCK (1 patent), Gregory Co., SD, 1909 Nelson J. CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1909 Newton J. CARLOCK (1 patent), Yuma Co., CO, 1919 Reuben CARLOCK (2 patents), McLean Co., IL, 1833 Reuben CARLOCK (2 patents), Woodford Co., IL, 1835 Reuben CARLOCK (2 patents), Woodford Co., IL, 1837 Reuben CARLOCK (2 patents), McLean and Woodford Cos., IL, 1837 Reuben CARLOCK (1 patent), Woodford Co., IL, 1839 Reuben CARLOCK (1 patent), Woodford Co., IL, 1850 Richard CARLOCK (1 patent), Gem Co., ID, 1908 Robert N. CARLOCK (1 patent), Franklin Co., MS, 1898 Samuel C. CARLOCK (1 patent), Dade Co., MO, 1848 Sarah A. CARLOCK (1 patent), Vernon Co., LA, 1889 Thomas J. CARLOCK (1 patent), Gem Co., ID, 1906 Thomas T. CARLOCK (1 patent), Lafayette, AR, 1856 Wauneta Merle CARLOCK (1 patent), Yuma Co., CO, 1932 Wayne CARLOCK (1 patent), Gregory Co., SD, 1908 William CARLOCK (1 patent), Madison Co., AR, 1890 William CARLOCK (1 patent), Lassen Co., CA, 1891 William B. CARLOCK (1 patent), Beadle Co., SD, 1887 William B. CARLOCK (1 patent), Beadle Co., SD, 1892 William H. CARLOCK (1 patent), Klamath Co., OR, 1904 William I. CARLOCK (2 patents), Yuma Co., CO, 1920 William T. CARLOCK (1 patent), Franklin Co., MS, 1859 William T. CARLOCK (1 patent), Franklin Co., MS, 1861 William V. CARLOCK (1 patent), Stoddard Co., MO, 1837 William W. CARLOCK (1 patent), Boundary Co., ID, 1910 Winton CARLOCK (1 patent), Woodford Co., IL, 1835 Zeta M. CARLOCK (1 patent), Tripp Co., SD, 1912 Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A>

RootsWeb has finally fixed the threaded archives, making it much easier to search the archives for previous messages. All previous messages can be easily accessed through the following website: <A HREF="http://lists.rootsweb.com/">RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists</A>. Note that these archives, as well as the archives of most other Rootsweb mailing lists, are also accessible to researchers not subscribed to this mailing list. This can be a very useful research tool. It also means no more missed messages because of servers or computers being down, full mailboxes, or temporarily unsubscribing to go on vacation. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the BOLDWYN, CARLOCK, and CEARLOCK Rootsweb Mailing Lists <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html"> Home Page of Susan Cearlock Tilleman</A>

I'm passing this message along: FYI Received the following letter via the GASCREVE-L group at 12:38 PM 9/21/2000: >Hello, > >I live in St. Louis, Missouri and saw on the local news tonight that there >is a BRIDGETON MEMORIAL PARK - 1843 - 1963 ( North St. Louis) that is >looking for persons with family buried there. The airport is being >expanded and they are going to move the CEMETERY. > >Is there a way to get this message to as many listers as possible in a >short amount of time? > >Can you help! > >Pat Jones Smith >St. Louis, Missouri USA >MSmith3030@aol.com

Posted on: CARLOCK Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/a/CARLOCK/obituaries/8 Surname: ------------------------- MRS. DORA CARLOCK Mrs. Dora Carlock, 70, died at her home at North Little Rock, Route 1, last Friday (7/31/1942). She is survived by her husband, J.W. Carlock; a daughter, Ruby Furr, and three sons, Herbert of Pine Bluff and Charles Edmondson and Hugh Carlock of North Little Rock. Funeral services were held at Keo Cemetery at 4 p.m. Saturday by the Rev. Mark Vaught.

Posted on: CARLOCK Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/a/CARLOCK/obituaries/7 Surname: ------------------------- J.W. CARLOCK J.W. (Joseph Wesley) Carlock aged 70, former resident of England, died in the home of his son, H.W. Carlock of Ladd, Jefferson County, Monday morning(5/15/1950). He was a member of the Keo Baptist Church. Survivors include a daughter, Mrs. Ruby Woodall of North Little Rock; two sons, H.W. Carlock of Ladd and Alfred Carlock of Gould; two step-sons, Charlie Edmondson of Houston, Tex. and Hugh Edmondson of North Little Rock; one sister, Mrs. Addie Salvey of Sherrill, and three brothers, Jesse of California, Richard and Ben of Des Arc. Funeral was held by Rev. Dale Gentry of Pine Bluff at the Keo Cemetery at 2 p.m. Tuesday. Burial was in charge of the Wilson Funeral Home.

Posted on: CARLOCK Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/a/CARLOCK/obituaries/6 Surname: ------------------------- Herbert Carlock Jr. Rev. Herbert William Carlock Jr. of Savannah died Thursday, Aug. 27, at the Baptist East Hospital in Memphis at the age of 65. He was born in England, Ark., on July 14, 1933, the son of the late Herbert William Carlock Sr. and Edna Elgin Carlock. On Sept. 1, 1957, Mr. Carlock married the former Betty Thompson. Mr. Carlock was a retired Cumberland Presbyterian minister of 45 years. He was a member of the Waynesboro Cumberland Presbyterian Church. Services were held at 3p.m. Saturday, Aug. 29, at the Waynesboro Cumberland Presbyterian Church with burial in the Savannah Cemetery. Jack Ferguson and Don Coleman officiated. Other than his wife, Betty of Savannah, Mr. Carlock is survived by two sons, Lt. Comm. Herbert William Carlock III of San Diego, Calif., and Rev. Dr. Jon Thompson Carlock of McKenzie; and two brothers, Howard Carlock of Hot Springs, Ark., and Robert Carlock of North Little Rock, Ark.

Posted on: CARLOCK Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/a/CARLOCK/obituaries/5 Surname: ------------------------- EDNA TEMPI ELGIN CARLOCK, 85, of North Little Rock, died in Hot Springs on February 12, 1996. She was the widow of Herbert Walker Carlock, Sr. and a member of Cumberland Presbyterian Church. She is survived by three sons, Herbert W. Carlock, Jr. of Murfreesboro, Tennessee, Howard Carlock of Irving, Texas, and Robert Carlock of North Little Rock; one sister, Julia Avery of Mountain View; and several grandchildren. Visitation at Roller-Owens Funeral Home will be from 5 to 7 p.m. today with a memorial service to follow. Interment will be 10 a.m. Thursday at Keo Cemetery, Keo, Arkansas.

Posted on: CARLOCK Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/a/CARLOCK/obituaries/4 Surname: ------------------------- BIGELOW --Billy N. Carlock, age 51, of Bigelow, Ark. died Dec. 14, 1995. He was born April 11, 1944, in Leesville, La. Mr. Carlock was a retired Lieutenant Colonel from the U.S. Army. Mr.Carlock received the following medals: National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Honor Medal First Class, Vietnam Service Medal, Vietnam Campaign Medal W//DVC 60, Combat Infantryman Badge, Air Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster, Vietnam Jump Wings, Good Conduct Medal, Special Forces Tab, Ranger Tab, Vietnam Cross of Gallantry W//Palm, Master Parachutist Badge, Vietnam Civil Action Honor Medal, Bronze Star Two Oak Leaf Cluster, Vietnam Ranger Badge and the Army Achievement Medal. He was Senior Vice President of VFW Post 9095, president of Chapter 49 Richard J. Webber Special Forces Association and was of the Catholic faith. Survivors include his wife, Candance Schoenig; sons, Christopher Carlock of Virginia, Timothy Carlock of North Little Rock; sister, Ruth Galloway of North Highlands, California, and one grandchild. Graveside services will be at 10 a.m., Tuesday, Dec. 19, at the National Cemetery in Little Rock by Harris Funeral Home of Morrilton.