The following message appeared on the KILLICK list Friday. The entire message can be viewed at the following site: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/KILLICK/2003-03/1048868815 . Sue Tilleman List Administrator -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:26:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Killick] Forward-Killick/CarlickHi Everyone! I am forwarding this information on to the list for Andrea, a new Killick member(please forgive my cut and paste skills). I am quite certain some of this information is recognizable to some of you. Andrea would Love to hear from any family members, or any information on this family. "My immediate family tree is as follows: [SNIP] My dad was Brian who passed away suddenly in 2001 and who the information comes from via a cousin - we found all this and more in his paperwork and never knew he had it. This is why I am trying to carry it on for him! The family were born in Croydon but were moved to Manchester during the evacuation as children in the war and all settled there afterwards as my grandparents felt it was a better place to bring them up - cheaper housing I assume!! Also it was my grandmother's birthplace! I also have another part of the tree going back even further which I know connects directly to two names I have seen on your site Alec Stanley in Canada and another Brian Killick born the same year as my dad 1933 who would be a distant cousin of my dad. [SNIP] Charles Carlick or Killick - c 27/2/1820 Witham Essex m Jane claydon c 1822 -1886 m 8/01/1842 ~Witham Essex*** Brother Alfred Carlock or Killick c 13/10/1822 Witham Brother John Carlock or Killick c 2/10/1825 Witham [SNIP]

I received the following e-mail yesterday. Please contact Monique at the following address if you are interested in purchasing either of the items she has for sale: [email protected] . Also refer to my previous posting at the following site for additional information regarding the availability of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CARLOCK/2003-01/1043138541 . I would also welcome any information not included in the book that Monique or anyone else would like to provide with regard to Elmer Stephen CARLOCK and his family. There is an Elmer CARLOCK, Jr., b. Mar. 25, 1922, s/o Thomas Elmer CARLOCK, b. June 16, 1895, Union Co., IL, listed on page 627 of the above-mentioned book, but I do not yet have enough information to determine whether or not these two individuals are the same person. Susan Cearlock Tilleman List Administrator for the CARELOCK, CARLOCK, CEARLOCK, and GARLOCK Lists http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/GENE18-0001.html -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- From: "Monique" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Availability of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929 Hi, I am not sure if you can help me or not, I found you on the web...I happen to have the book listed below with a partial family tree written down in the book and also signed by M. P. Carlock himself. Also with the book is the Naval "Notice of Separation" papers for Elmer Stephen Carlock...Would you know of someone interested in buying this or resources I can go to.. Thanks, Monique Availability of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carlock Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zdH.2ACEB/179.1 Message Board Post: Mahlon Randall Carlock was my GG grandfather, father to Iva Iona Carlock who was my G grandmother and mentioned in your posting. Iva did indeed marry a Ferd Miller (or Mueller, originally from the area of Munich in Germany but changed to Miller later because of WWI), but later divorced him when their only child, my grandmother, Dorothy May Loretta Miller (later changed to Hamilton, then to Allen in marriage), was just a toddler. Iva later married Russell Hamilton and had another child named Harold. I am the only grandchild of Dorothy. Of her 3 children, all sons, one, Jerry D, survives today and lives in Indiana. Because my grandmother was raised by Permitta and Mahlon and was therefore very close to them, and because I too was raised by my grandmother and was very close to her, I have heard quite a bit about Permitta Lewis however there was never any mention of a child that died in childbirth or later. In addition, I have a Carlock family history book entitled "History of the Carlock Family and Adventures of Pioneer Americans" from 1929 that lists all of Permitta's children -- but only 4: Thessaley B, Thorsteine Clifford, James Roscoe and Iva Iona. My copy has been marked up by my grandmother to add corrections and later information, but she has not added anything on a 5th child. Kind regards, Leslie Kenny (nee Allen) Hong Kong

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carlock Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zdH.2ACEB/184 Message Board Post: Trying to find out the name of her parents.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Woodall, Carlock, Goforth Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zdH.2ACEB/183 Message Board Post: Looking for information of a Phoebie Carlock who married Jefferson Woodall one known child Sarah Jane Woodall born 9-7-1863, or 1866 or 1867. I believe that either Phoebie Carlock or Jefferson were born in Georgia and that Sarah Jane Woodall was born in Alabama. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Sarah Jane is my Great Grandmother and I just recently found out her parents names as listed above! The other info I have is that Sarah Jane Woodall married Thomas Jefferson Goforth in Alabama and they had several children one including my grand father Orbra D. Goforth.. If you have any info please email me at gsbswift @grandfederal.com THANKS!!!!

From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 8 Feb 2003 13:49:26 -0700 Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR A SARA JANE GOFORTH-MARKER This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xEz.2ACIB/194.2 FINALLY found info on my husband's missing great- grandmother. sarah jane woodall-goforth-marker, born sept.7,1863 , died feb. 3, 1960 at 96 yrs.in vinita, ok. (craig county). her name has been found in the 1920 and 1930 census under sarah marker. (oklahoma) her father name's jefferson woodall and her mother phoebie carlock,this info from her death certificate. born in alabama. from the (accessgenealogy.com/native/enroll/index.htm) she is delaware and cherokee indian."final rolls 1898-1914" has 2 different card numbers.her husband's name was john d. marker. hope this helps others. if anyone has info on her 1st husband, albert jefferson goforth please i'd like to know.like when they were married,etc. thank you, carrie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carlock Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zdH.2ACEB/78.101.102.104.106.110 Message Board Post: Good Morning, I am researching the family of Eunice Carlock who remained in TN and married William Tays. Do you know if Abraham Carlock left a will in IL which designates a daughter remaining in TN? Thank you.

Can anyone veryify whether or not the Elias G. CARLOCK (1875 - 1951) and Charity CARLOCK (1874 - 1953), bd. in the CARLOCK/CEARLOCK Cemetery, Fayette Co., IL, are the same people as the Gilliam E. CARLOCK, age 52, b. IL, and Charity E. CARLOCK, age 53, b. IL, family listed on 1930 census, page 3B, lines 97 - 100, and page 4A, line 1, of ED 68-21, Taylor Springs Village, Hillsboro Township, Montgomery Co., IL (ftp://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/il/montgomery/1930/ed21-brief.txt)? Also listed in the same household are son Howard CARLOCK, age 30, b. IL; daughter Ruth CARLOCK, age 20, b. IL; and daughter Bessie CARLOCK, age 18, b. IL. I also need help identifying the parents of Elias G. CARLOCK and/or Gilliam E. CARLOCK. Other individuals with the names Elias and Gilham are also found in the Fayette Co./Montgomery Co., IL, CARLOCK/CEARLOCK family. Susan Cearlock Tilleman List Administrator of the CARLOCK and CEARLOCK Lists http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html?Welcome=1044395563

Seeking information about David CARLOCK/CURLOCK, b. 1839 - 1840, Bowling Green, Warren Co., KY, or IL. I am attempting to prove my theory that the following two individuals are one in the same. The only source that I have so far for the first set of information is material received from another CARLOCK/CEARLOCK researcher over 20 years ago. I have several sources for the second set of information, but am still looking for corrections and additional documentation. I have recently been in contact with one of the descendants of David CURLOCK of Jefferson Co., IL, who reports the information that David's first marriage took place in Fayette Co., IL. 1. David CARLOCK (s/o Jacob CARLOCK/CARELOCK, George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK), mother's name unknown; b. 1838, IL; m. Elizabeth, who was b. 1840, OH. (I am also descended from George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, b. ca. 1779, NC; m. Rachel LANDERS, Oct. 11, 1805, Warren Co., KY; family migrated to Fayette Co., IL; d. ca. 1862, possibly Montgomery Co., IL.) 2. David CURLOCK, b. 1839, Bowling Green, Warren Co., KY; m#1. Rebecca, before 1857, reportedly Fayette Co., IL, divorced, after which she reportedly went to TX with her family; m#2. Elizabeth "Bets" BOOK, Nov. 9, 1858, Jefferson Co., IL (Elizabeth b. 1838, IL, d. Jan. 1910); m#3. Elizabeth Turman HICKS, after 1865; d. Aug. 16, 1906, AR. I would be especially interested in any records showing Jacob to be the father of David. Has anyone found Jacob's family on the 1850 census, perhaps in Fayette Co., IL? Has anyone found a record listing a more exact birthdate or birthplace for David? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Susan Cearlock Tilleman List Administrator of the CARLOCK and CEARLOCK Lists http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html?Welcome=1044361495

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zdH.2ACEB/165.1.1 Message Board Post: Thermon is related to Ida Belle Treadaway, Columbus Ferdinand Treadaway, brother Ted, sister Nettie, you can write me at [email protected] Information on this family is hard to get.

This is in response to Message #2 below which first appeared on the TNMEMORIES list Jan. 22, 2003. I do not find Barbara CARLOCK MCBEE, d/o Henry CARLOCK and Sally, b. 1805, Claiborne Co., TN, listed in the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. Her early birthdate greatly narrows down the list of possible candidates to be her father. A search of my database brings up the following possibilities: 1. probably Henry CARLOCK/CARELOCK/CURLOCK/KERLOCK of Rutherford Co., NC, 1782 - ca. 1800, (probably s/o Frederick, David, Hans). This seems to be the most likely candidate. He was about the right age, lived in the right part of the country to migrate to Tennessee, appears to have left North Carolina ca. 1800, and his line was not included in the book "History of the Carlock Family". If so, this probably means that Henry migrated to Claiborne Co., TN, after leaving NC, and that his wife's name was Sally. To date I had found no records of him after he left NC. Because of where they lived (Virginia and North Carolina), David's descendants were the most likely to migrate to TN. For various reasons, I believe that Henry was probably a son of Frederick not named in the book "History of the Carlock Family". (See Message #1 below.) 2. John Henry GERLACH/CARLOCK (s/o Johannes, Juriaen/George, Coenraad/Conrad, Hans), b. before Mar. 9, 1773. Conrad's line lived in the wrong part of the country to have likely migrated to TN. 3. Henry CARLOCK (s/o Heinrich/Henry, Juriaen/George, Coenraad/Conrad, Hans), b. Dec. 29, 1768, m. Margareta MILLER. Again, Conrad's line lived in the wrong part of the country to have likely migrated to TN. Further research in Claiborne Co., TN, records is needed. Susan Cearlock Tilleman List Administrator for the CARLOCK, CARELOCK, and CEARLOCK Lists http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/GENE18-0001.html -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE #2----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: William MCBEE (1798 - 1883) m. Barbara CARLOCK (1805 - 1888); lived Claiborne Co., TN From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:57:48 -0800 Subject: [MEMORIES] McBee's file #1 Register Report - 22 Jan 2003 ... 57. William McBee - 7526. Son of Samuel McBee - 7524 & Anna Hamilton - 7525. Born 21 Jul 1798 in Grainger Co., TN. Died 23 Jun 1883 in Claiborne Co., TN. Buried 27 Jun 1883 in Homestead Cemetery, Claiborne Co., TN. Religion Lived on farm in Powell Valley ®293. He first married Barbara Vanbibber - 7528. He second married Mary Ann Williams - 7527, daughter of William Williams - 7785 & Mary (Polly) Williams, maiden name unk - 7786, 12 Oct 1817 in Grainger Co., TN. Born 13 Jun 1797 in Grainger Co., TN. Died 20 Sep 1834 in Claiborne Co., TN. Buried 23 Sep 1834 in Homestead Cemetery, Claiborne Co., TN. They had the following children: 70 i. Sally McBee - 7787 71 ii. Claiborne McBee - 7788 72 iii. Samuel McBee - 7789 73 iv. Sarah McBee - 7790 74 v. Houston McBee - 7791 75 vi. William (II) McBee - 7792 76 vii. Nathaniel B. McBee - 7793 77 viii. Elijah Dickerson McBee - 7794 78 ix. Elizabeth Ann (Betty) McBee - 7795 He third married Barbara (#1) Carlock - 7796, daughter of Henry Carlock - 7996 & Sally Carlock, maiden name unk. - 7997, 20 Jul 1835. Born 31 Jan 1805 in Claiborne Co., TN. Died 2 Mar 1888 in Claiborne Co., TN. Buried in Homestead Cemetery, Claiborne Co., TN. Religion had several sons and 1 daughter. They had the following children: 79 i. Manerva Jane McBee - 7998 80 ii. Martha Washington McBee - 8000 81 iii. Isaac L. (T.) McBee - 8001 82 iv. James Hamilton McBee - 8002 83 v. Barbara McBee - 8003 84 vi. First name unk, Sex unk McBee - 8004 ... -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE #1----- From: "Susan Tilleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:18:37 -0500 Subject: Henry and Joseph CARLOCK/CARELOCK of Rutherford Co., NC, 1782 - 1803 The Rutherford County, NC, Land Grants list, by W. D. FLOYD, located at the following site, shows the following listings for Henry and Joseph CARELOCK: http://ns1.rfci.net/wdfloyd/grants.html Carelock, Henry 4-6 50 1797 Carelock, Joseph 4-6 51 1797 Furthermore, the Rutherford County, NC, Deed Index, Grantor-Grantee, 1779-1917, by W. D. FLOYD, located at the following site, shows the following listings for Henry and Joseph CARLOCK: http://ns1.rfci.net/wdfloyd/DeedDex.html Carlock, Henry & Joseph / Wear, Robert / Deed/12-14/245/1800 Carlock, Henry / McEntire, Alexander / Deed/20-21/98/1803 Carlock, Henry / Porter, David / Deed/10-11/38/1798 I am seeking further information with regard to these individuals, including their relationship to each other. Henry appears to be the Henry CURLOCK/KERLOCK found in Rutherford Co., NC, tax records, 1782; Mecklenburg Co., NC, court records, 1787; and the 1790 federal census for Rutherford Co., NC. The Mecklenburg Co., NC, connection leads me to believe that Henry could be a son of Frederick CARLOCK (s/o David), not mentioned among Frederick's children on page 437 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. Furthermore, the 1787 Mecklenburg Co., NC, court record where Henry was awarded money for the orphans of Christopher LANDESS suggests that Henry may be somehow related to the family of George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, b. ca. 1779, NC, ancestor of the Illinois branch of the CEARLOCK (pronounced like "CARELOCK") family, who married Christopher LANDESS's granddaughter Rachel LANDERS, Oct. 11, 1805, Warren Co., KY. The above-mentioned Rutherford County, NC, Deed Index also includes the following listings for a Henry LANDERS. Is this the same Henry LANDERS who was the son of Christopher LANDESS, the father of Rachel LANDERS, and who migrated to Warren Co., KY? Landers, Henry / Green, William / Deed/M-Q/360/1796 Landers, Henry / Hamrick, James / Deed/M-Q/301/1796 Furthermore, page 437 of the book "History of the Carlock Family" lists a Joseph CARLOCK (s/o Lemuel, Hanchrist, David), "b. 1780, in southwestern Va.; emigrated to Tenn. with his uncle, Abraham Carlock, in 1803; later settled in Marion Co.; served War 1812; enlisted as Private Oct. 4, 1814, in Capt. Wm. Dooley's Company, McGrory's Regiment, West Tenn. Militia Inf.; dis. Jan. 4, 1814; wife unknown. Children: 1. James, born 1800; wife Elizabeth _____; wife b. 1810, farmer. 2. Joseph Taylor, b. Oct. 19, 1857, in Walker Co., Tenn.; m. Phoebe Halloway, April 7, 1820." Interestingly, this Joseph's son James also used the spelling "CARELOCK", and the book says that Joseph's son John migrated to Allen Co., KY, and was the father of George Washington CARLOCK (1812 - 1862) who died in Warren Co., KY, and whose son Luther Carel CARLOCK/CEARLOCK was the ancestor of the Oklahoma branch of the CEARLOCK family. At this point I do not have any evidence to connect this Joseph CARLOCK! with the Joseph CARLOCK/CARELOCK mentioned in the Rutherford Co., NC, 1797 land grant and 1800 deed. Any additional information with regard to the Henry and Joseph CARLOCK/CARELOCK mentioned in the Rutherford Co., NC, 1797 land grants and 1798, 1800, and 1803 deeds would be greatly appreciated. Susan Cearlock Tilleman List Administrator for the CARLOCK, CARELOCK, and CEARLOCK Lists http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html?Welcome=1035330156 -----RELATED ARCHIVED MESSAGE--- To: [email protected] From: "Susan Tilleman" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:58:12 -0600 Subject: Henry CARLOCK/CURLOCK/KERLOCK, of Rutherford Co., NC, 1782, 1790 Seeking information about the following individual and his family: Henry CARLOCK/CURLOCK/KERLOCK (probably s/o Frederick CARLOCK/KERLOCK, David GERLACH/CARLOCK, Hans GERLACH) Found in Rutherford Co., NC, tax records, 1782; Mecklenburg Co., NC, court records, 1787; and 1790 federal census for Rutherford Co., NC. ... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Sources: 1. 1790 United States Federal Census, (http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/census/ruth1790.txt), Morgan District, Rutherford Co., NC. 2. Landers' Landings newsletter, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sweetpoe/llandings/llandings.html, Vol. 3, #2, Sept.-Oct.-Nov., 1983, pg. 6. 3. 1782 Rutherford Co., NC, Tax Roll, (http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/taxlists/ruth_tax.txt), "Electronic." Sue Tilleman

From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 33 Jan 2003 20:57:48 -0800 Subject: [MEMORIES] McBee's file #1 Register Report - 22 Jan 2003 ... 57. William McBee - 7526. Son of Samuel McBee - 7524 & Anna Hamilton - 7525. Born 21 Jul 1798 in Grainger Co., TN. Died 23 Jun 1883 in Claiborne Co., TN. Buried 27 Jun 1883 in Homestead Cemetery, Claiborne Co., TN. Religion Lived on farm in Powell Valley ®293. He first married Barbara Vanbibber - 7528. He second married Mary Ann Williams - 7527, daughter of William Williams - 7785 & Mary (Polly) Williams, maiden name unk - 7786, 12 Oct 1817 in Grainger Co., TN. Born 13 Jun 1797 in Grainger Co., TN. Died 20 Sep 1834 in Claiborne Co., TN. Buried 23 Sep 1834 in Homestead Cemetery, Claiborne Co., TN. They had the following children: 70 i. Sally McBee - 7787 71 ii. Claiborne McBee - 7788 72 iii. Samuel McBee - 7789 73 iv. Sarah McBee - 7790 74 v. Houston McBee - 7791 75 vi. William (II) McBee - 7792 76 vii. Nathaniel B. McBee - 7793 77 viii. Elijah Dickerson McBee - 7794 78 ix. Elizabeth Ann (Betty) McBee - 7795 He third married Barbara (#1) Carlock - 7796, daughter of Henry Carlock - 7996 & Sally Carlock, maiden name unk. - 7997, 20 Jul 1835. Born 31 Jan 1805 in Claiborne Co., TN. Died 2 Mar 1888 in Claiborne Co., TN. Buried in Homestead Cemetery, Claiborne Co., TN. Religion had several sons and 1 daughter. They had the following children: 79 i. Manerva Jane McBee - 7998 80 ii. Martha Washington McBee - 8000 81 iii. Isaac L. (T.) McBee - 8001 82 iv. James Hamilton McBee - 8002 83 v. Barbara McBee - 8003 84 vi. First name unk, Sex unk McBee - 8004 ...

We are still searching for data on the ancestors and siblings of: Moses Wright born 14 Feb 1795; died 20 Jan 1859; buried at Livingston, NJ; married before Jun 1824, Hannah Edwards. Hannah was born 9 Mar 1799; daughter of Joseph Edwards and Margaretta King. My husband's line continues with their son: John Edixon Wright born 11 Dec 1824, Livingston, Essex Co, NJ; accidently killed 7 Oct 1862; buried Prairie du Sac, Sauk Co, WI; married 27 May 1846, Springfield, Clark Co, OH, Elizabeth Anne `Lizzie' Steele. Elizabeth was the daughter of Marshfield Smith Steele and Mary Carlock. Mary Carlock was born 28 Sep 1800; died 17 Dec 1897, Springfield, OH. She was the daughter of Delphiat Carlock and Rachel Dodd, no data on them, other than their marriage 12 Oct 1795, NJ. We do have data on the Dodd line. Delhiat was the son of Henry Carlock born 1732; married 1761, Margaretta ______. No other data on them. Any data on the above lines would be appreciated, Carol [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zdH.2ACEB/174.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry it took me forever to ans. Traveling a bunch. Retired. Write. Jac C.

-----FORWARDED MESSAGE #1----- From: "K Haddad" <[email protected]> To: Susan Tilleman ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:53 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: CARLOCKs in NC & Cape Girardeau, MO I am researching 29 family names (as you know, with each new generation, you double your names), and decided to dig a little more and update my William Vance Carlock (b.c. 1800). Last night before writing you, I checked the following censuses through www.censuslinks.com for Carlock, Gerlock, Kerlock: KENTUCKY: Anderson - no early censuses Logan - 1810 census, none Warren - 1810 David Carlock b.c. 1760 or before NORTH CAROLINA: Cabarrus - no early censuses Mecklenburg - 1790, but missed the ones you told me about this morning (thanks) Rutherford - 1790, 1800, 1810, 1820 - none Stokes - 1790, 1800, 1810 - none "David" keeps piquing my interest. My William Vance named his first son after himself (or maybe his father), and his second son David. (His last son was Francis Marion and called himself "Ransom." He, by the way, was b. in Schuyler Co., IL, probably while visiting relatives. But I haven't found the connection.) The John Carlock you mentioned in Cape Girardeau could be the one that my William Vance Carlock sold land to in Cape Girardeau/Stoddard Co. in the 1830s. (a) I have a cousin who lives in NC, and maybe she'll go to the Mecklenburg courthouse for me. Did those in Cabarrus, Rutherford, and Stokes Co. live there a long time before or after 1790? Just curious. (b) With what you gave me on Mecklenburg, I'm going to try to compare nearby residents with those living near my William Vance Carlock in Cape Girardeau/Stoddard Co., MO. I did that for my Wills family in Lincoln Co., NC once, to see if others from PA went with them, and found a bunch. (c) I will go to WorldConnect and see what I can find out about some of his nbrs. in Missouri. (d) Maybe late next summer I'll be in Stoddard Co., MO, and can check some things at the courthouse. Maybe go to Cape Girardeau Co. too. This is all I know to do. After doing (b) and (c) above, I'll put the Carlocks back away and wait until my cousin and I can get to those courthouses. Thanks, as always, for your help. You are an outstanding webmaster. So many of them never provide feedback, so the site goes pretty much dead. But your site is always alive and kicking! Katheryn -----FORWARDED MESSAGE #2----- From: "K Haddad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:43 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Censuses Although I usually use www.censuslinks.com for my research, I found your www.census-online.com to be a great backup. I was just now able to bring up the 1830 census of Cape Girardeau Co., MO, on your census-online, whereas it has been down recently on censuslink. I found my William Carlock on page 1. I knew he was there, but the person who copied the census a long time ago and told me about it did not write down the ages. I am also writing down the names of the neighbors so I can trace them on WorldConnect, and also compare them with Mecklenburg Co., NC. Oops! Just looked out the window. Snowing again. It's 6 degrees (that's right, folks, SIX) with a high expected of 9 (you heard me right, NINE). Yes, I live in Canada. But don't you southerners and Californians think we like all this cold. Our forebearers came here to get work (many during the depression or one of the wars), raised their families, the children stayed around and raised their families, and who wants to be very far from family? So we develop a stiff upper lip (Winston Churchill's version of frozen) and stick it out. Katheryn

This is in reply to Katheryn's ([email protected]) e-mail earlier today titled "Carlocks in NC & Cape Girardeau, MO". The following Census Online site is very useful for locating on-line U.S. and Canadian censuses: http://census-online.com/links/index.html . At the North Carolina site, look at the close proximity between Cabarrus Co. (the part of old Mecklenburg Co. where the family of Frederick CARLOCK lived) and Rutherford Co., where Henry CURLOCK lived. See Part I of the 1790 Mecklenburg Co., NC, census at the following site: ftp://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/nc/mecklenburg/1790/pg0349.txt . See the listing for Frederick KERLOCK on page 366, line 7. Also see Part II of the 1790 Mecklenburg Co., NC, census at the following site: ftp://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/nc/mecklenburg/1790/pg0367.txt . See the listings for Frederick and George KERLOCK on page 370, lines 40 and 41. Also see the 1790 Rutherford Co., NC, census at the following site: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/census/ruth1790.txt?sourceid=00228462925408454246 . See the listing for Henry CURLOCK in this alphabetized listing. Also note Christian GOODNIGHT on page 366, line 16, of Part I of the 1790 Mecklenburg Co., NC, census, living near the two Fredericks and the George KERLOCK. His father Hans Michael "Michael" GOODNIGHT married Mary LANDERS, d/o Christopher LANDIS, as his second wife, and his sister Catherine married Henry LANDERS, s/o Christopher LANDIS. Rachel LANDERS, d/o of Henry LANDERS and Catherine GOODNIGHT, m. George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, my direct ancestor. I have not yet determined George's exact connection to the family of Frederick CARLOCK (s/o David), but, based on age, I believe that George was most likely a grandson of Frederick, possibly through Henry CURLOCK who was living in Rutherford Co., NC, in 1790, or a David CARLOCK who is found in both Mecklenburg Co., NC, and Warren Co., KY. I do not yet have much information on either this Henry CURLOCK or this David CARLOCK. Note that a Henry KERLOCK (probably the above-mentioned Henry CURLOCK) is mentioned in the Aug. 4, 1787! , Mecklenburg Co., NC, court minutes in a case titled "Kerlock & the Landess vs. Joseph Rogers" in which Henry KERLOCK was awarded money for the orphans of the above-mentioned Christopher LANDESS.. A search in my database for the words "Cape Girardeau" brings up some descendants of David (or Daniel?) CURLOCK, b. 1839, Warren Co., KY, who migrated to Jefferson Co., IL, and d. Aug. 16, 1906, in AR. Jefferson Co., IL, and Cape Girardeau, MO, are near each other. David's descendants use the spelling "CURLOCK". I have not yet determined David CURLOCK's ancestry, but we know that the following CARLOCKs were also living in the Warren Co./Allen Co., KY, area, at about that same time: 1. Family of George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK (my direct ancestor), b. ca. 1779, NC, who migrated to Warren Co., KY, then to Fayette Co., IL. (ancestor of the larger of the two CEARLOCK lines) George's parents have not yet been determined, but it seems likely that he was a grandson of Frederick CARLOCK (s/o David) of Mecklenburg Co., NC. 2. Family of John CARLOCK (s/o Lemuel, Hanchrist, David), listed starting on page 437 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. (ancestor of the smaller of the two CEARLOCK lines) 3. Family of David CARLOCK, b. before 1766, wife's name Elizabeth. A Catherine CARLOCK who m. James HENDRICKS, Oct. 10, 1809, Warren Co., KY, and a John D. CARLOCK who m. Polly GIBSON, Jan. 6, 1814, Warren Co., KY, are believed to be children of this David. David's ancestry has not yet been determined, but he may have been a son of Frederick CARLOCK (s/o David) of Mecklenburg Co., NC. Let me know if you ever find any additional information to link your William Vance CARLOCK with the rest of the CARLOCK family. If you send me what information you do know about your CARLOCK line, I will add it to my database in hopes of making a future connection for you. Susan Cearlock Tilleman List Administrator of the CARLOCK and CEARLOCK lists -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- From: "K Haddad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Carlocks in NC & Cape Girardeau, MO Hi! My William Vance Carlock (not the one in the book) was in Cape Girardeau Co., MO. at least by 1820. There was a large group of at least 65 wagons in a wagon train from Lincoln Co., NC that went to Cape Girardeau right about that time. My Wills & McGee families whom the Carlocks intermarried with were from there. I have checked the 1790 census of Lincoln, Mecklenburg, Rutherford and Stokes Co., NC (Cabarrus didn't have one online) and have found no Carlocks in them, though I've read on your site several times they were there. What proofs do "we" have? Katheryn Katheryn

From: "K Haddad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Carlocks in NC & Cape Girardeau, MO Hi! My William Vance Carlock (not the one in the book) was in Cape Girardeau Co., MO. at least by 1820. There was a large group of at least 65 wagons in a wagon train from Lincoln Co., NC that went to Cape Girardeau right about that time. My Wills & McGee families whom the Carlocks intermarried with were from there. I have checked the 1790 census of Lincoln, Mecklenburg, Rutherford and Stokes Co., NC (Cabarrus didn't have one online) and have found no Carlocks in them, though I've read on your site several times they were there. What proofs do "we" have? Katheryn Katheryn

This is in reply to a message I received from one of the subscribers to the CARLOCK list yesterday asking where she could purchase a copy of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. The following site shows that Higginson Book Company sells reprinted paperbook copies of this 654 page book for $97.50, plus tax if you live in Massachusetts, and shipping costs: http://www.higginsonbooks.com/ . For an additional $12.00 they will provide a hardcover binding. Please let me know if you know of any other sources for purchasing copies of this book. Sue Tilleman List Administrator for the CARELOCK, CARLOCK, CEARLOCK, and GARLOCK Lists -----RELATED ARCHIVED MESSAGE #1----- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:24:47 -0500 From: "Susan Tilleman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Libraries Containing Copies of "History of the Carlock Family" LIBRARIES CONTAINING COPIES OF "HISTORY OF THE CARLOCK FAMILY" BY MARION POMEROY CARLOCK. LIST UPDATED JUNE 30, 2002: With the exception of the first listing, all other listings are in alphabetical order by United States state. (The LDS Family History Centers are the only locations I have found so far outside the United States.) 1. LDS Family History Centers, located worldwide. Microfiche or microfilm can be ordered to be viewed at these libraries for a very reasonable fee. Through the following site, you can easily find a family history site in your area: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp . Additional information can be obtained through the following site: http://www.familysearch.org/ . 2. Madison County, AR, Genealogical and Historical Society Library; corner of Hwy. 74 West and Mitchusson Park Road, 1/4 mile West of Huntsville, AR; USA; telephone (501) 738-6408. http://members.aol.com/madcounty/mcghs/mcghsinf.htm#LIBRARY 3. Georgina Cole Library; 1250 Carlsbad Village Dr.; Carlsbad, CA 92008; USA; telephone (760) 434-2870; microfiche. Call number GENEALOGY G 3456. http://www.ci.carlsbad.ca.us/cserv/library.html 4. Los Angeles Public Library; 630 W. Fifth Street; Los Angeles, CA 90071; USA; telephone (213) 228-7000. Call number REF 929.2 C284. http://www.lapl.org/ 5. California State Library - Sutro; 480 Winston Drive; San Francisco, CA 94132, USA; telephone (415) 731-4477. Book call number CS71.C271 1929. Microfiche call number \MICRO-\FICHE\G3\G3456\. http://www.library.ca.gov/ 6. Lincoln Library (Main Sangamon Collection); 326 South 7th Street; Springfield, IL 62701; USA; telephone (217) 753-4900. Call number 929.2 CAR. http://lincolnlibrary.rpls.lib.il.us/llhome5.htm 7. Library of Michigan; 717 West Allegan Street; P.O. Box 30007; Lansing, MI 48909-7507; USA; telephone (517) 373-1580; microfiche. Location Gene Fiche 2 S. Call number G3456. http://www.libofmich.lib.mi.us/ 8. New Jersey State Library (Genealogy Collection); 185 West State Street; Trenton, NJ 08625-0520; USA; telephone (609) 292-6220. Call number A929.2 C284. http://www.njstatelib.org/ 9. New York State Library; Cultural Education Center; Empire State Plaza; Albany, NY 12230; USA; telephone (518) 474-5355. Book call and location number 929.2 qC284, 1 Book-Q R-REF (nocirc). Microfiche call and location number 929.373 G326 86-24269 G3456, 1 MICROFICHE MA (nocirc). http://unix2.nysed.gov/ 10. Chambers Library; University of Central Oklahoma; 100 North University; Edmund, OK 73034-5209; telephone (405) 974-3361. Call number CS71.C2775 1929. http://library.ucok.edu/ 11. Schusterman-Benson Library; 3333 E. 32nd Pl.; Tulsa, OK 74135; telephone (918) 746-5024. Call number 929.2 C19 1929. http://www.tulsalibrary.org/ 12. Tennessee State Library and Archives; 403 Seventh Avenue North; Nashville, TN 37243-0312; USA; telephone (615) 741-2764. Call number CS71.C2775 1929. http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/tslahome.htm 13. Dallas Public Library; J. Erik Jonsson Central Library; 1515 Young St.; Dallas, TX 75201; USA; telephone (214) 670-1400. Location CENTRAL-CGC-8TH-REFERENCE. Call number 929.2 C284C. http://www.dallaslibrary.org/ 14. Seattle Public Library; Temporary Central Library; 800 Pike St.; Seattle, WA 98101; telephone (206) 386-4636. Call number (LB) R929.2 C195C. The library's website says that the permanent Central Library is presently under construction at it's previous site, located at 1000 Fourth Ave, and that construction is expected to be finished by around 2003. http://www.spl.lib.wa.us/ 15. The State Historical Library; 816 State Street, 2nd Floor; Madison, WI 53706; USA; telephone (608) 264-6520. Call number CS71.C2775 1929. http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/library/ Please let me know if you have any additions or corrections to this list. Sue Tilleman List administrator for the CARLOCK, CARELOCK, CEARLOCK, and GARLOCK lists http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html?Welcome=1025453722 -----RELATED ARCHIVED MESSAGE #2----- Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:49:49 -0700 From: "Susan Tilleman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Site for comparing book prices One of the subscribers to the CARLOCK and CEARLOCK lists was kind enough to tell me about the following site which searches the holdings of several book dealers, allowing you to compare price, shipping costs, etc.: www.addall.com . The cheapest price I just found for the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929, through this site was a used copy through a source called "Classbook". The cost was $78.10, plus shipping cost of about $4.95, bringing the total cost to about $83.05. Sue

-----MESSAGE #1----- From: "K Haddad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} 1880 Census Wayne Co., MO I used to be a member of your list, but am not for the time being. I am trying to trace the parentage of my William Vance Carlock ~ one of many by that time. His widow Frances Carlock died in Wayne Co., MO, in 1890. Does anyone have access to the 1880 census of Wayne Co. who could look up where she said her parents were born? I know she was born in N.C. Thanks so much, Katheryn Haddad -----MESSAGE #2----- From: "K Haddad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:37 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} 1870 census lookup I do not presently belong to the Carlock List, though I used to. Does anyone have the 1870 US census CD? I'm trying to figure out what happened to David V. Carlock b. 1837 (would be 33 in 1870) and Ransom (sometimes called Francis) M. Carlock b. 1841 (would be 29 in 1870. They are children of one of the many William Vance Carlocks. Mine was b.c. 1802 and died c. 1836 in Missouri. Wife was Fannie. You may reach me at [email protected] Thanks so much, Katheryn

The photo was probably made in Joshua, TX. Just a note of interest Mary,daughter of Rumania Glascoak, married Silas Miller, Haden Carlock married Minnie Miller. Silas and Minnie were children of Jacob Stephen Benjamin & Lucinda Bandy Miller both from Allen CO KY. The 4 sons of my grandparent were 'double cousins'. AMason ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Tilleman To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: Descendants of Benjamin Franklin GROVES (1836 - 1910) and Nancy Helen CARLOCK (1843 - 1935) This is in reply to "AM's" ([email protected]) Jan. 19, 2003, posting to the CARLOCK list titled "Carlock Cousins". Information about the following family comes primarily from pages 438, 439, 441, and 442 of the book "History of the Carlock Family", by Marion Pomeroy CARLOCK, 1929. I do not recall my source for Nancy's death date and place. Nancy Helen CARLOCK (d/o George Washington CARLOCK, John CARLOCK, Lemuel CARLOCK, Hanchrist CARLOCK, David GERLACH/CARLOCK, Hans GERLACH), b. Aug. 19, 1843; m. Benjamin Franklin GROVES, Dec. 25, 1864; d. Feb. 1, 1935, Hermleigh, Scurry Co., TX. Benjamin Franklin GROVES, b. Aug. 15, 1836; d. Jun. 4, 1910. Children: 1. Kittie George GROVES, b. Oct. 13, 1865; d. Apr. 4, 1895. 2. Emily Jane GROVES, b. Mar. 7, 1868; d. Apr. 20, 1899; m. SKILES. 3. John Franklin GROVES, b. Oct. 11, 1869. 4. Louella GROVES, b. Aug. 11, 1871; m. LADD. 5. Sarah Ann GROVES, b. Aug. 3, 1873; m. OLIVER. 6. Nancy Eddie GROVES, b. Feb. 12, 1876; m. James Sinclair FARR, stock farmer. Residence Hermleigh, Scurry Co., TX. No issue. 7. Rufus GROVES, b. Feb. 10, 1878. 8. Luther Thomas GROVES, b. Mar. 15, 1882. 9. [infant male] GROVES, b. Sep. 7, 1887; d. Sep. 7, 1887. Note that there is also a photograph of 4 women on page 439 of the same book, below the title "The Carlock Families of Kentucky, Texas and Georgia (Descendants of Joseph Carlock and John Carlock, War of 1812, sons of Lemuel Carlock of Virginia, Hanchrist--War 1776, David)", which says, "Helen Frances Groves, Gr.-D. Nancy Helen (Carlock) Groves; Rumina (Carlock) Glascock and Gr.-D. Gladys Glascock of Texas." I would welcome any additions or corrections to this information. A list of libraries containing copies of the above-mentioned book can be found at the following site: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CARLOCK+2002+77160074+F Sue Tilleman List Administrator of the CARLOCK List http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/GENE18-0001.html -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- From: "Amom45" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Carlock Cousins Information about the Groves family. Married a daughter of George W. and Kitty Read Carlock. Settled in TX. I am a Carlock. ~~AM~~