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    1. land ownership
    2. Lisa
    3. My goodness! My great grandfather! I feel like someone just walked on my grave - or his. Joseph Carter Clarke. The man was a carpenter. I don't know where Content was. And Ian's Joseph Davis ( who heaven know's might be mine too if I ever find out who my grandfather was.) I wonder who Ann & Sarah are & could they lead to who Joseph was? hmm & will have to check the other Clarkes too. You have to be careful when you send me this stuff as I then have so many questions! Was St Joe different in having so many small landowners? Or was this just the time? or was it everywhere that had a "below the cliff"?? Seems to have been a lot of shifting going on at the time. I have a copy of the Will of Robert James Haynes ( I think a son of the one who owned Frizer's at the time my GGgrandfather was buried "in the vault") The will says - c 1848 - that Frizer's was leased, & had been for 9 years - to Nathaniel Jones Pile, Francis King, and I believe Francis Hodgkinson. Frizer's was to be sold if they didn't want to renew the lease for another 10yrs in 1849. ( BTW --- RJHaynes had departed and lived in St Michael. He left all his household goods & £ 9000 to a "coloured" (whatever that means - I guess that someone could still remember you had some black in you ) Elizabeth Ann Gibson - likely from St Joe as she was a laborer on Frizer's at one baptism - & the 5 children she bore him.) I have to remember that any profession - carpenter, cooper, fisherman was a necessary part of the economy and of some importance. Can't have barrels for the sugar without the cooper. I am just really suprised - I was thinking he roamed the parish being a carpenter & eventually got a few roods - by not till later. He was a long-lived man - did not die till 1890, outlived many of his peers, & produced 17 children of 3 wives, my grandmother the youngest. Must have seen a lot of changes. You're a peach - thanks --- &&&& when is the case scheduled to be heard? Who all is going to UK? Happy 4th of July -- the day after which we didn't care about "the other guy's history" anymore !! No work till Monday & my oldest son's birthday - a firecraker they said, although I don't exactly remember it that way. Lisa > > From: "Applied Technologies Inc." <apt@caribsurf.com> > Date: 2003/07/03 Thu PM 10:00:38 CDT > To: "Sales Consultants of Middlesex County, Inc." <scmidlsx@bellatlantic.net> > Subject: Re: Is this yours? > > Lisa > > Thanks again fo the list. > > Was at the archives today and was looking at an 1847 list of landowners who > owned greater than one acre in each parish. Extracted the following > > St. John: John McCollins Attempt 14 acres > Robert Clarke Coach Hill 3 acres > Thomas Clarke dec. Below Cliff 14 acres 2 foods > Rev. RNB Clarke Haynes Hill 121 acres 3 roods > > St. Joseph Joseph B. Davis Near Bathsheba 4 acres 2 roods > Ann S. Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre > Sarah E. Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre > John & Charles Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre > George W. Clarke Near Mount wilton 2 acres > Joseph C. Clarke Near Content 2 acres > Richard Clarke Near Cambridge 1 acre > > Looked for Glenburnie but did not see it listed. In St. Joseph it looks > like almost the whole parish was owned by about 200 persons. In 1817 there > were a few thousand slaves registered and heaven only knows how many > landless whites. > > Rate books seem not to be available prior to the early 1900's but imagine > there would be a wealth of info in them. > > John > >

    07/04/2003 07:37:39
    1. RE: land ownership
    2. christopher codrington
    3. Hi Lisa I had missed the beginning of your thread....which island are you discussing? Chriscod C.M. Codrington("american version # 1952) Editor: Carib GenWeb "Historic Antigua and Barbuda" web-site Co-Administrator: Carribean-L@rootsweb.com Member: Barbados Museum Historical Society, Museum of Antigua and Barbuda Historical and Archaeological Society. -----Original Message----- From: Lisa [mailto:ljj5@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:38 AM To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: land ownership My goodness! My great grandfather! I feel like someone just walked on my grave - or his. Joseph Carter Clarke. The man was a carpenter. I don't know where Content was. And Ian's Joseph Davis ( who heaven know's might be mine too if I ever find out who my grandfather was.) I wonder who Ann & Sarah are & could they lead to who Joseph was? hmm & will have to check the other Clarkes too. You have to be careful when you send me this stuff as I then have so many questions! Was St Joe different in having so many small landowners? Or was this just the time? or was it everywhere that had a "below the cliff"?? Seems to have been a lot of shifting going on at the time. I have a copy of the Will of Robert James Haynes ( I think a son of the one who owned Frizer's at the time my GGgrandfather was buried "in the vault") The will says - c 1848 - that Frizer's was leased, & had been for 9 years - to Nathaniel Jones Pile, Francis King, and I believe Francis Hodgkinson. Frizer's was to be sold if they didn't want to renew the lease for another 10yrs in 1849. ( BTW --- RJHaynes had departed and lived in St Michael. He left all his household goods & £ 9000 to a "coloured" (whatever that means - I guess that someone could still remember you had some black in you ) Elizabeth Ann Gibson - likely from St Joe as she was a laborer on Frizer's at one baptism - & the 5 children she bore him.) I have to remember that any profession - carpenter, cooper, fisherman was a necessary part of the economy and of some importance. Can't have barrels for the sugar without the cooper. I am just really suprised - I was thinking he roamed the parish being a carpenter & eventually got a few roods - by not till later. He was a long-lived man - did not die till 1890, outlived many of his peers, & produced 17 children of 3 wives, my grandmother the youngest. Must have seen a lot of changes. You're a peach - thanks --- &&&& when is the case scheduled to be heard? Who all is going to UK? Happy 4th of July -- the day after which we didn't care about "the other guy's history" anymore !! No work till Monday & my oldest son's birthday - a firecraker they said, although I don't exactly remember it that way. Lisa > > From: "Applied Technologies Inc." <apt@caribsurf.com> > Date: 2003/07/03 Thu PM 10:00:38 CDT > To: "Sales Consultants of Middlesex County, Inc." <scmidlsx@bellatlantic.net> > Subject: Re: Is this yours? > > Lisa > > Thanks again fo the list. > > Was at the archives today and was looking at an 1847 list of landowners who > owned greater than one acre in each parish. Extracted the following > > St. John: John McCollins Attempt 14 acres > Robert Clarke Coach Hill 3 acres > Thomas Clarke dec. Below Cliff 14 acres 2 foods > Rev. RNB Clarke Haynes Hill 121 acres 3 roods > > St. Joseph Joseph B. Davis Near Bathsheba 4 acres 2 roods > Ann S. Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre > Sarah E. Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre > John & Charles Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre > George W. Clarke Near Mount wilton 2 acres > Joseph C. Clarke Near Content 2 acres > Richard Clarke Near Cambridge 1 acre > > Looked for Glenburnie but did not see it listed. In St. Joseph it looks > like almost the whole parish was owned by about 200 persons. In 1817 there > were a few thousand slaves registered and heaven only knows how many > landless whites. > > Rate books seem not to be available prior to the early 1900's but imagine > there would be a wealth of info in them. > > John > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== Before posting a query, check to see if the question has already been asked on the List. All messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived by date or thread at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CARIBBEAN. You can search the archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CARIBBEAN. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03

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