Dear Ann, Thank you for the help I guess what I don't understand is if I go to the website familysearch and look for the name I am searching for and nothing comes up has it searched through theses films we are discussing as well or does the LDS not have everything since they have such an immense collection on computer? Would these films contain separate information? Also if you do find it online if you order the microfilm does it contain more information than what is online or is the same information. I had found one relative listed having a child we did not know about and I saved the film number but now when I go to the same reference on familysearch they have deleted the film number. I am sorry for all the questions but I think because of my lack of knowledge on this matter I am probably overlooking a vital resource. Thank you and best wishes, Karen Lombard ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Whiting To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Re: name question Dear Jeff, If you have access to a LDS/Family History Library, go to www.candoo.com, under Microfilms, you will see St. Lucia, I believe in the Leeward Islands, it should have all the film numbers for what the LDS/FHL has available for St. Lucia. Then go to the library, armed with your film numbers, (it cost about $3.75 to rent it, if it is not in your location), and you can view it at your libraty for a month. Hope this helps. Ann >From: "Jeff Lombard" <thelombards@attbi.com> >Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: name question >Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:30:12 -0400 > >First I want to thank everyone for their responses. >Bonjour Philippe, > >Please excuse my ignorance but I really have not worked with LDS microfilms >at all. What is Le Mouillage is a village? Can I ask what you are looking >at that lets you know there are a lot of records on Renault in St Lucia. >When we went it was hard to gather information and I finally had the >archives do a search for me looking for my Bonnets and Jennings clan and >the baptismal certificate for a Marie Therese Bonnet has the mother as >Marianne Sophie Parigau married to Felix Bonnet, also mentioned Bernard >Parigau, Pierre Parigau married to Ambroise Sophie Renault grandmother and >grandfather to Pierre Felix Bonnet, Felix Bonnet son of Felix Bonnet and >Dame Assee Parigau marries Elizabeth Clemence Noel, Charles Denis Bonnet >Cadet (not sure what the Cadet means) godfather Charles Parigau and >godmother Laurence Euphrasie Parigau listed as great aunt and uncle. Any >ideas and help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the >time to look this over. > >Best wishes, >Karen Lombard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RossignolP > To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:02 AM > Subject: Re: name question > > > Dans l'article <002001c30e4e$c8064d40$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, > thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > > > On a few of the birth certificates I received from St Lucia a new >family > >name had appeared Parigau from Martinique does this name mean anything >to > >anyone or sound familiar? It is the only time I have entered a general > >search on the computer through Google and come up with basically no >mentions > >of this last name except my posts. Any ideas? > > > > Bonjour > I have : > Laurence Euphrosine PARIGAU, born 1790, married Pierre Joseph BENECH >(dead 16 > feb. 1866 St Pierre, Le Mouillage) > In the french records of St Lucia for some death appear PARIGAU(D) père > (father) négociant (merchant) and PARIGAU(D) fils (son) but without >first > names. > I think you will find something in the LDS' microfilms at St Pierre, Le > Mouillage. > Could you give me the informations recorded on the birth certificate ? > > About RENAULT : a lot of records in St Lucia. > > Regards > Philippe Rossignol > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES What is a Mailing List? http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html

Dear Karen, I have just re subscribed to the Caribbean List, so haven't followed this line of correspondence, however I would like to add something that may not have been covered, & my apologies if I am repeating what has been said before. I am not a member of the Mormon Church, but have done quite a bit of research over the past 20yrs & where there were never any films of use to me in those earlier years, I know the LDS are continually filming around the world & had been to Grenada, prior to a visit that I had in 1998 & now many of the records I viewed in hard copy are available through the LDS system. I think that much of what you will access online from the LDS records will be from the IGI ( International Genealogical Index ) This is an Index only, mostly compiled from the names found on Parish Registers that have been microfilmed & is considered a finding aid. The LDS have a massive amount of material that has not & no doubt will never be indexed, due to the magnitude of the task, so the best option is to look to see what films there are available for the areas you have your research interests. LDS Site http://www.familysearch.org/ A Search for Thomas Bell Grenada = 37 results, 3 from 1881 UK Census, 9 from the IGI & the remainder from various websites, which I doubt will even give me a Thomas Bell in Grenada, but just brings up sites that have all 3 words in them. However a search for Films of records from Grenada reveals an unbelieveable number of Films that can be ordered for viewing. If you are not sure how to search for them, go to the Library Link at the top of the page then click on Family History Library Catalogue, then Place Search. Often the obvious search for St Lucia may not give any results, but if you think of other ways to find how it might be filed you will get results. Always check Related Places & View Film Notes I did these tests Place Part of Result St Lucia Nothing Found St Lucia Leeward Islands Nothing Found Leeward Islands 2 Hits with 12 Topics as below, but sadly there don't seem to be any films for Church Registers, or any Civil Registration of Births etc. Archives and libraries Archives and libraries - Inventories, registers, catalogs Cemeteries Census - Bibliography Church directories Church records Court records Emigration and immigration Gazetteers History - Sources Maps Military records Many of the original documents are in very poor conditions, so naturally the film copies are poor too, but I guess anything is better than nothing. There are ways of getting the best from these films, even though hard to read & I'll send a seperate Email with some tips for accessing the information on the films. Many of the Caribbean films require a High Magnification Reader to view them, so it is advisable to ask at your local FHC if they have such a machine & when your film arrives, request that machine when wishing to view the films. Good Luck. Cheers, Merril Bourne, New Zealand.

This was sent to me by a contact off the Irish Co Mayo List, & many of the name abbreviations are common in that area, but I know that anyone who makes use of these tips will benefit by Joe's suggestions & I'm sure won't mind me sharing it with others. Cheers, Merril ************************************ I have been looking at church microfilms for the last seven years. I have encountered many different problems trying to read these microfilms so I have developed a list of helpful hints over time. I'm sure you are aware of most of them, but maybe there is one or two that might help. 1. In all probability the microfilm you will be using is 16 mm. Some records are microfilmed on 35 mm. If you have the 16mm film, ask the FHC if they have any microfilm viewers that have an enlarging capability. Use the reader that gives you the greatest magnification. 2. Some of the pages will be faint and hard to read. Put a sheet of yellow paper or light yellow cardboard on the surface where the image is being projected. This, for some reason, makes the writing a little easier to see. 3. Sometimes the entry you want is at the bottom of the page and is hard to read because oil and dirt from the hands of people turning the pages of the original document turned the paper dark. Get the most light possible on his portion of the page. The reader does not evenly distribute the light coming through the lens. Move the portion you are trying to read to the middle of the surface receiving the image from the microfilm. Sometimes this will make the difference in being able to read the entry. 4. Do not spend more than 30 minutes at a time viewing the records. You need to give your eyes and mind frequent breaks. After 30 minutes, get up, walk around, focus on things off in the distance, get a drink of water, etc. You will miss fewer entries this way. Its amazing how you can look at something and pass right by not realizing it is a name you are looking for. 5. Plan on making more than one pass through the microfilm. You never find them all on the first pass. On my third pass through the Ballysakeery Parish records, I still found two Egan entries I had missed on the first two passes. A few months later, I made another pass but did not find anything I missed. See if you can put this microfilm on permanent loan at your FHC. This costs about $7.00 U.S. but you will always have it available for future reference. You will find new family names, by marriage, from that parish as your research progresses. You will want to see if you can find these new names in the parish records. 6. Get a high powered hand held magnifying glass. This will help you a lot in reading some entries and the glass throws additional light on the subject matter, which is helpful on very dark records. Also, a light gathering magnifier, which is dome shaped, will put a lot more light on a dark area and usually make the writing readable. 7. When you get to the portions of the records where the priest had a terrible handwriting, you may have a hard time recognizing the names you are researching. You have to take time to analyze his handwriting. Find out how he forms the different letters in the names you are looking for by finding them in words you recognize. 8. The priest will very often use an abbreviation for a first name. Patrick is often "Patt"; Michael will be "Mich" with a squiggly line going from the "h" in Michael at a 45 degree angle to the right. Thomas will be "Thos" with the squiggly line; James will be "Jas" without the squiggly. 9. It helps to become familiar with the script variations of that time. One in particular comes to mind. I had several entries with the first name of Bepsy, which really threw me. After reading about script variations of that time I found out that Europeans made a double "s" with the first "s" looking something like a backward "p". So Bepsy was actually Bessy and my mystery was solved. Check this site on the Internet "http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html" for some good hints. ( this doesn't appear to be working any longer, Merril ) 10. If a name is difficult, turn your head away and see what it looks like *immediately* on looking back at the film (and without magnification) - names one has agonized over at close quarters sometimes jump out at you at first glance. View the word at different angles and distances, sometimes this helps. 11. Write down the page number and entry number for each extraction you make. This will help you to get quickly back to the entry if you need to recheck the information. Sometimes the records are in such bad shape you can't read the page number or sometimes they never bothered to number the pages. There was little standardization in how the information is entered or what is contained in the entry. 12. Go to "http://www.seanruad.com/" and get a list of all the townlands in the parish you are reviewing. Very often you can figure out the handwritten townland if you have a printed list of the townlands handy. 13. If you have access to the Griffith Valuation Index CD, print out all the surnames for the parish of interest. If you have a hard time reading the surname on the microfilm you may be able to figure it out if you have a list of the surnames in that parish handy. I'd appreciate any helpful hints you might have developed through your experience. Regards, Joe Egan