I have been reading your post and you strike me as a very knowledgeable person. I am having the hardest time placing my grandfather who was of east Indian descent (indentured labourer headman) with the name Warner. Is it possible that he came from some other place with the name Warner, of course it is possible, but does anyone have any information that could guide me in this way. Thanking the group, Anthony

Hi Anthony, Yes it is quite possible that your grand-father came with the name Warner. But then again he might not have. It was the practice of many Indians to take names from the gamut of names of the Christianising group. So if your grand-father came with the name Warner, he might have been Christianised by British Missionaries. If he had come from a part of India colonised / christianised by the Portuguese he might have had a Portuguese name, etc. But then again he might have been Anglo-Indian from India, or he might have descended from a former indentured Indian and some one in the West Indies by the name of Warner. Or he might have come with an Indian name and got Christianised and changed his name to Warner. Then you might have to find out if there were any Warners on the Plantation that he worked, what were the names of the missionaries, overseers, doctors, teachers etc. If he was a Christian, after he came, maybe you can find a record of his Baptism, which would say what his previous name was etc. Then again he might have had an Indian name which was Anglicised by himself after he came to make it more English sounding, or it may have been Anglicised by some-one writing the records, or from the way that he was addressed on the Estate. So you may have to consider the gamut of Indian names and try to figure out which one might have been transformed to Warner by the accent or ears or spelling of an English, Scots or Irish clerk or overseer. But to get more help you should say how old your grand-father was when he died and the year that he died. Then one can say for sure if he came during the indentureship period. And if you can establish that he came for sure during that period the first thing to do is to find to go and try to find his indentureship contract, by using the year that he came, by working back from the year that he died, how old he was when he died, and how old he was when he came etc.. From there you can find a record of his landing by which ship, port etc. and to which Plantation he was assigned. Old family members, or family lore, or people who might have been descended from the group with which he came, or even members of the group with which he came (if any are still alive) might give you some info. or clues to find more information. I hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.Anthony Warner" <rawarner@vecollective.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Jamaica-Indian Indentured labourer > I have been reading your post and you strike me as a very knowledgeable > person. I am having the hardest time placing my grandfather who was of east > Indian descent (indentured labourer headman) with the name Warner. Is it > possible that he came from some other place with the name Warner, of course > it is possible, but does anyone have any information that could guide me in > this way. > Thanking the group, > Anthony > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Warner is a well known name in the eastern carribean eg St Kitts, Barbados. Is it possible one of your ancestors arrived via those islands and was a Warner? Richard Allicock wrote: > Hi Anthony, > > Yes it is quite possible that your grand-father came with the name Warner. > But then again he might not have. > > It was the practice of many Indians to take names from the gamut of names of > the Christianising group. So if your grand-father came with the name > Warner, he might have been Christianised by British Missionaries. If he had > come from a part of India colonised / christianised by the Portuguese he > might have had a Portuguese name, etc. > > But then again he might have been Anglo-Indian from India, or he might have > descended from a former indentured Indian and some one in the West Indies by > the name of Warner. > > Or he might have come with an Indian name and got Christianised and changed > his name to Warner. Then you might have to find out if there were any > Warners on the Plantation that he worked, what were the names of the > missionaries, overseers, doctors, teachers etc. If he was a Christian, after > he came, maybe you can find a record of his Baptism, which would say what > his previous name was etc. > > Then again he might have had an Indian name which was Anglicised by himself > after he came to make it more English sounding, or it may have been > Anglicised by some-one writing the records, or from the way that he was > addressed on the Estate. So you may have to consider the gamut of Indian > names and try to figure out which one might have been transformed to Warner > by the accent or ears or spelling of an English, Scots or Irish clerk or > overseer. > > But to get more help you should say how old your grand-father was when he > died and the year that he died. Then one can say for sure if he came during > the indentureship period. And if you can establish that he came for sure > during that period the first thing to do is to find to go and try to find > his indentureship contract, by using the year that he came, by working back > from the year that he died, how old he was when he died, and how old he was > when he came etc.. From there you can find a record of his landing by which > ship, port etc. and to which Plantation he was assigned. Old family members, > or family lore, or people who might have been descended from the group with > which he came, or even members of the group with which he came (if any are > still alive) might give you some info. or clues to find more information. > > I hope this helps. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R.Anthony Warner" <rawarner@vecollective.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: Jamaica-Indian Indentured labourer > > > I have been reading your post and you strike me as a very knowledgeable > > person. I am having the hardest time placing my grandfather who was of > east > > Indian descent (indentured labourer headman) with the name Warner. Is it > > possible that he came from some other place with the name Warner, of > course > > it is possible, but does anyone have any information that could guide me > in > > this way. > > Thanking the group, > > Anthony > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > What is a Mailing List? > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked