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    1. Re: MSNBC News Link: DNA tackles a familys mysteries
    2. Ann Whiting
    3. This information comes from P.D. Curtin's book, "Atlantic Slave Trade" p. 221. Obviously, this is not the only version available, but Curtin is a heavyweight on the subject (along with W.E.B. DuBois, R.R. Kuczynski, E. Donnan, Davies, H.S. Klein, etc) and I like the way the data is presented: PROJECTED EXPORTS OF THAT PORTION OF THE FRENCH AND ENGLISH SLAVE TRADE HAVING IDENTIFIABLE REGION OF COAST ORIGIN IN AFRICA, 1711-1810. Senegambia (Senegal-Gambia)* 5.8% Sierra Leone 3.4% Windward Coast (Ivory Coast)* 12.1% Gold Coast (Ghana)* 14.4% Bight of Benin (Nigeria)* 14.5 Bight of Biafra (Nigeria)* 25.1% Central and Southeast Africa (Cameroon- N.Angola)* 24.7% * The countries in parentheses are rough approximations to help you find the location on a modern map. Now I will try to relate the above regions to selected ethnic groups. I've collected this data from a variety of sources, and I can't vouch for all of them. The central question for me is always, "Were these people called by that name during that time in that place?" I don't know how to show the nomadic and semi-nomadic groups, but I included several below anyway. SENEGAMBIA: Wolof, Mandingo, Malinke, Bambara, Papel, Limba, Bola, Balante, Serer, Fula, Tucolor SIERRA LEONE: Temne, Mende, Kisi, Goree, Kru. WINDWARD COAST (incl. Liberia): Baoule, Vai, De, Gola (Gullah), Bassa, Grebo. GOLD COAST: Ewe, Ga, Fante, Ashante, Twi, Brong BIGHT OF BENIN & BIGHT OF BIAFRA Combined (sorry): Yoruba, Nupe, Benin, Dahomean (Fon), Edo-Bini, Allada, Efik, Ibibio, Ijaw, Ibani,Igbo(Calabar) CENTRAL & SOUTHEAST AFRICA: BaKongo, MaLimbo, Ndungo, BaMbo, BaLimbe, BaDongo, Luba, Loanga, Ovimbundu, Cabinda, Pembe, Imbangala, Mbundu, BaNdulunda Other possible groups that maybe should be included as a "Ancestral group" of African Americans, and in what region: Fulani, Tuareg, Dialonke, Massina, Dogon, Songhay, Jekri, Jukun, Domaa, Tallensi, Mossi, Nzima, Akwamu, Egba, Fang, and Ge. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sara Weiss" <ksara@tesco.net> Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: MSNBC News Link: DNA tackles a familys mysteries Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:37:01 +0100 From where do you get this information that slaves to the Caribbean were from other countries than Ethiopia? I was given this information from a lady working for the Zionist Federation of Gt Britain - she must have resourced this or wouldn;t have come out with such a bold statement surely? also you are quite wrong. When we went to Israel time and again we were asked by Ethiopian Jews there if my husband was Ethiopian. We were also stopped by and Ethiopian lady in Sussex who asked us to take her photo. I told her of our experiences in Israel and she said, "Yes, you look entirely Ethiopian." How do you work that out then, if you state that Ethiopia is too far inland. In Israel, the Falashas are known for their hard work, their cleanliness and their zeal for the Torah. This describes exactly my husband and his father! I went to an Ethiopian party there and was accepted as one of them, and this makes me wonder a lot about my own ancestry with the likeness between my husband and myself.# One last thing. Here in Morden there are a lot of Ghanains. I know some personally - many many of them look entirely Jewish and, to boot, they have many Jewish customs apparently. the same with Nigeria to an extent. The facial characteristics of Ethiopian Jews and Ghanains though, is not alike as far as I can ascertain. The Ethiopian look is quite long faced, pointed sort of chins and very almond eyes. They are frequently quite thin or lean, I never saw a fat Ethiopian. What do you think and can hyou answer my question about your source of information. Thanks for replying so quickly by the way! Sadie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nevilla E. Ottley" <clasebon@erols.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: MSNBC News Link: DNA tackles a familys mysteries > Sara, > > An interesting letter. I am married to a Gentleman from Ghana, West > Africa. His father was also from Ghana, and his mother was a Cherokee > Indian and African American mix from North Carolina. An old African > relative of my husband met me some time ago, and saw a large photo of my > parents on the wall. His comment was "These people are Ghanaian." > > I smiled and said, "No, my parents are from Trinidad, and and my mom's > parents were from Barbados." (I was so naive at that time about genealogy). > > He responded: "Young lady, it doesn't matter where they were born, > their roots are from Ghana, their facial features and bone structure > resembles our people very much." > > Actually most of the slaves that were brought to the Caribbean were from > West African countries, including Ghana, Nigeria, the Gold Coast, Togo, > etc., not from Ethiopia (that country is too far inland). So who knows, > since many people tell me I resemble my husband, we may be related from > a couple of centuries ago. In genealogy, all things are possible. > > Nevilla E. Ottley > > Sara Weiss wrote: > > >I'll tell you something else. Although I am mad keen to find out my Jewish ancestry, possibly thro DNA - but unlikely according to Richard, thanks Richard for saving me time and trouble - I have two black ancestors too. > > > >Accounts for my very frizzy hair and love of music mayhaps! Reading "Roots" by Alex Haley has now, more than this website, made me start to wonder about them. One was a slave who bought his freedom - West Indies or America I do not know. The other was from the Caribbean but I do not know where. My husband and I are similar in looks and he and some of my children have the same features. His whole family are from Anguilla BWI and so one wonders if there is a Black connection . Are we descended from the same line. > > > >All slaves in the Caribbean came from Ethiopa - Christian ?Muslim and Jewish (Falasha). But, he is also Jewish, so we may have descended from the same person, way way back, in Israel. But then how could the appearance be so similar after 3,000 years!!! The black line is more probable. But the likelihood of my ancestors coming also from Anguilla is almost prepostrous. Who knows? You'd need to be rich to find out!! > > > >One just keeps these things under one;s hat but nothing much can be done to find out more - unless one is the subject of some far out TV documentary!!! > > > >However, I am just pleased to be part of all this, in a sort of 'inner' way. Know what I mean? > > > >Sara Weiss > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <richwyn@idirect.com> > >To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:44 PM > >Subject: MSNBC News Link: DNA tackles a familys mysteries > > > > > >>Richard Allicock sent you this MSNBC News Link: > >> > >>Message: > >>Sara Weisss re-appearane on the DNA Issue was quite timely. Here is an MSNBC account of some-one trying to use DNA to fill the gaps in his reearch. There is also a link to the African Genetics for Genealogy company, Afrigenesis for those who are interested. Richard > >> > >>** DNA tackles a familys mysteries ** > >>DNA testing is adding a scientific twist to the search for family roots, one of the worlds most popular pursuits. Follow MSNBCs Alan Boyle on the genetic trail. > >> > >>http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/682153.asp > >> > >>______________________________________________________________________ > >>Check out the hour's top stories on MSNBC.com <http://www.msnbc.com> > >> > >>MSNBC does not confirm the E-mail address of the sender of this MSNBC News Link. For your information, the sender's IP Address is: 207.46.245.18 > >> > >> > >>==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > >>For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >> > > > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > >Before posting a query, check to see if the question has already been asked on the List. 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