Hi Listers, I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. Here's the list of places done and not done: Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad]

This discussion has been extremely useful - in terms of bibliographies. I wonder if anyone can offer advice on a question I posed a while ago - that of vital records for the East Indian community. Many, if not most, of the East Indian immigrants predated civil registration and as most were not Christians would not be recorded in the usual Caribbean sources - namely parish registers. What was the practice for recording their births, marriages and deaths/burials, if at all? May be this was oral tradition as practiced in India. I understand that in Trinidad Muslim marriages were not recognised until about 1936 and Hindu marriages until about 1946 - this meant that such 'married' couples were considered common-law relationship and were basically single from a legal point of view and any children were illegitimate, this also effected laws of probate for intestacy (dying without leaving a valid will) and later British citizenship and belonging (as citizenship passed through legitimate fathers). However, for such marriages not to be recognised must mean that these marriages occurred. Were such events written down? I have tried numerous social histories and websites - there is plenty describing the migrations, immigration controls and working conditions but really there is nothing of serious use to the genealogist. Another non-Christian group of post emancipation labourers, which again predate civil registration, are the Chinese labourers. They first arrived in Trinidad in 1806 although the next waves were not until the 1840s in Guyana, Jamaica and Trinidad. Was anything recorded about their life events? However, very few Chinese women migrated until the 1860s and I understand that the normal practice was for Chinese men to return to China in order to marry and would remain. But after 1860 some 'marriages' must have taken place according to homeland practices - may be their numbers were too small to establish their own places of worship and that births and marriages went unrecorded. I assume that burials would occur but in the municipal cemeteries rather than church yards. There is an excellent site relating to the Chinese in Guyana by Trev Sue-A-Quan at http://www.rootsweb.com/~guycigtr/ I welcome any thoughts and advice. Thanks Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: East Indian Indenture Immigration W.I. > Hi Listers, > > I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. > > I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." > > I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. > > So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. > > Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. > > Here's the list of places done and not done: > > Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad] > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

There is a study on the life of the first Chinese in Trinidad whose name I think was Georges Arois in the historic journal published by UWI

In the research on East Indian immigration, has anyone come upon the name, "Turobunsing" in St. Vincent in the 1800s? Nevilla Richard Allicock wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. > >I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." > >I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. > >So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. > >Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. > >Here's the list of places done and not done: > >Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad] > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

Hi Nevilla, I do not have anything to add except to make an observation. A name like Turobunsingh is likely to break apart under pressure of Anglicization or Creolization into two names either T. Bun-, Ban- or Bamsingh or T. Singh. I hope that will help. Best regards, Richard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nevilla E. Ottley" <clasebon@erols.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: Re: East Indian Indenture Immigration W.I. > In the research on East Indian immigration, has anyone come upon the > name, "Turobunsing" in St. Vincent in the 1800s? > > Nevilla > > > Richard Allicock wrote: > > >Hi Listers, > > > >I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. > > > >I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." > > > >I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. > > > >So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. > > > >Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. > > > >Here's the list of places done and not done: > > > >Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad] > > > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >