On 15 Sep., 04:58, "Augusta Elmwood" <augus...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Peter, thanks for welcoming Dr. G. to the List for us. > > Dr. G, have you done any studies on the Germans who came to Saint-Domingue > from the failed expedition to Kourou (1764, I believe)? ... a really tragic > story which runs parallel to the Germans that were brought to Louisiana > during the time of the John Law Company. > > Best regards, > Augusta Elmwood > New Orleans > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spring" <spr...@surfbvi.com> > To: <caribb...@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: <glie...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Carib] Historical Research and Information Service (on) Saint > Domingue/ Haiti > > > We must thank Dr Gliech for introducing himself to our List and updating > > us on the development of his web site.  He should feel free to correct > > any inaccuracies in my description of it. > > I have various reasons for my interest in his work, apart from wishing > > to underline its value in telling us so much about the history of half > > of Hispaniola, an island whose colonisation and struggles for > > independence are only occasionally mentioned on our list: > > > 1. Income from migrants to the cane fields of the D.R. (Dominican > > Republic) was important to the economy of the BVI (British Virgin > > Islands) up to the 1960s, but the flow is now reversed, spear-headed by > > their Spanish-speaking descendants seeking to share in the BVI's modern > > prosperity, based on the tourism and financial services industries.  The > > history of the two parts of Hispaniola (modern Haiti and the DR) are > > closely intertwined (still evident during a recent holiday in the DR), > > although most Haitians reaching the BVI now are illegal immigrants > > seeking to enter the USA through the USVI (United States Virgin Islands) > > > 2. Germans settled throughout the Caribbean, but their attempts to > > establish their own colonies in the Virgin Islands archipelago in the > > late 17th century were thwarted by Britain and Denmark.  After an > > abortive attempt to set up a plantation on St Thomas, slave traders from > > Brandenburg (capital: Berlin) tried to establish themselves on Peter > > Island, just out of sight from my home, but  Colonel Codrington, > > Governor of the Leeward Islands, forced them out. > > > 3.  The successful transfer of the Danish West Indies to the United > > States in 1917 (during the First World War) was driven by the US's fears > > that they would fall into German hands, but they followed two earlier > > abortive agreements to do so. The first treaty, to transfer just St > > Thomas and St John to the USA, was signed in 1867, after a new > > government in Denmark had overcome opposition to the loss of more > > territory, as recent wars with Austria and the German state of Prussia > > (capital: Berlin) had forced the Danes to cede to them its duchies of > > Schleswig and Holstein. > > ////// > > 4.. My paternal grandfather was also born in Berlin, several decades > > before Dr Gliech.  I envy his linguistic abilities, as my own knowledge > > of German is sadly under-developed. > > > Best wishes > > > Peter Moll > > Tortola, BVI > > > O.Gliech <glie...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote 11/09/2009: > > > Dear colleagues, > > > I am the author of the cited website Domingino. If you have any > > questions concerning the list of former Domingan plantation owners or > > the scientific quality of the service, I am ready to answer them here. > > >>From time to time I will add new material of general interest on my > > website; many of these informations will be free of charge. Today I > > made the official "list of parishes and municipalities of the former > > colony of Saint Domingue", dressed by the French Royal Indemnity > > Commission in 1829, available to the public. You may find it here: > >http://www.domingino.de/stdomin/index_st_dom_eng.html. > > > Best wishes, > > > Dr. des. Oliver Gliech (Berlin/Germany) > > >> On 30 Aug., 04:28, "augustae" <augus...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > >>> Thanks, Peter !!  That was so very kind and patient of you to do that. > >>> I > >>> appreciate the time I know you must have spent exploring it. > > >>> Augusta > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Spring" <spr...@surfbvi.com> > >>> To: <caribb...@rootsweb.com>; "Augusta Elmwood" <augus...@bellsouth.net> > >>> Sent: Friday, 28 August, 2009 21:09 > >>> Subject: [Carib] Historical Research and Information Service (on) Saint > >>> Domingue/ Haiti (was: From the GHC Liste ...) > >>> **After dissecting this interesting web site, I can describe its main > >>> contents at present, but be aware that its pages may be removed for > >>> revision and new ones added by its originator, Dr Oliver Gliech, at any > >>> time, as he is only in the early stages of developing this "Historical > >>> Research and Information Service (on) Saint Domingue/ Haiti".  It is > >>> based on the resources he consulted for his doctoral thesis on "The > >>> Slave Uprising of Saint-Domingue and the French Revolution" (to be > >>> published in 2010) and will be the first part of a Regional History of > >>> Latin America. Multilingual versions of his web pages will be linked > >>> through icons of the French, German, UK and U.S national flags.... > >>> (more) > >     *************************** > > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > > Barbudahttp://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARIBBEAN-requ...@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG -www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.97/2370 - Release Date: 09/14/09 > 11:36:00- Zitierten Text ausblenden - > > - Zitierten Text anzeigen - Dear Mrs. Elmwood, there is a book on the matter which mentions the Germans but I did not do any research myself: - Michel, Jacques: La Guyane sous l'Ancien régime: le désastre de Kourou et ses scandaleuses suites judiciaires, l'Harmattan, Paris, 1989 (Guyane 1763-1765) The only file that I have found is the following, mentioned by source 1. I have not seen this file personally. Archives départementaIes (Ille-et-Vilaine) 20, avenue Jules-Ferry, 35000 Rennes. Série Ille-et-Vilaine C. C 5058. Correspondance entre le duc de Choiseul et la Commission intermédiaire des États de Bretagne relative à l'émigration de familles allemandes en Guyane, fin XVIIIe S. If you know some names of Germans who might have settled down in St- Domingue in the 1760s I could look if I have anything in my database, but it generally starts only in the 1770s. The Domingan colonial government had an interpreter for German in 1789 (M. le Bugnet who lived in Port-au-Prince). That might be an indication that there was still a German speeking population of some importance in Saint Domingue. Source 1: Archives Nationales: Guide des Sources de l'histoire de l'Amérique latine et des Antilles dans les Archives Françaises, Archives Nationales, 1984, p. 357. Best wishes, Dr. des. Oliver Gliech