Thank you both, I found those two definations, and discarded the military use, as it would be rather difficult to use in the 'VI' since most of the conflicts were at sea. What makes this reading so complicated is the fact that some of the words have their root meaning in; Prussian/German, Dutch, Danish, Swedish and 'only God knows what'! Trying to translate into a 17th century setting, only add to the mess. I did discover that "Fendrick/Fendrich=Standard Bearer. Also, a Turner is also a sentury on a tower. Go figure! Ann "Sharing the information." Researching the USVI, St.Eustatius, St. Barths, Barbados