Hi Listers, For many years now, I have been looking for my 2g-grandfather Frederick HENRY ... who was born c1809, according to his Australian (NSW) Death certificate, in London. Parents, according to the same Death Certificate, were Thomas HENRY and Elizabeth JONES. Frederick was convicted at the Old Bailey in London in 1830, for stealing a handkerchief value 3s, and was transported to NSW, where he spent the rest of his life. His Convict His Convict Indent gives his occupation as Actor, Hatter (3 years) and Clerk ... not your average convict (he was certainly literate). Now, a possible breakthrough came when I found an Elizabeth HENRY, dressmaker, in the 1841 Census, living in St Pancras. The 1851 and 1861 Censuses show her *still* living in that area, with sons Nicholas C (b. 1825, West Indies, Landed Proprietor & Banker Clerk), and Albert C C (b. 1831, St. Kitts, West Indies, a Clerk on the Stock Exchange). Elizabeth herself was b. 1792, in Totteridge, Hertfordshire, and is described as *Fund Holder & West India Proprietor*. Maybe I am clutching at straws ... but Elizabeth is certainly the right age, and the occupation *Clerk* gives me hope :-) I wonder, does anyone on the list know who these HENRYs are? I would *love* them to be relatives of my Frederick HENRY - who died 1872 in Tamworth, NSW, after a varied career which included serving his time as a convict on a farm in Dungog, working as a Police Constable in Clarence Town, and selecting land in Woolomin, NSW, in 1862. (He also owned the Union Hotel there for several years - a kind of amusing end for someone who pleaded intoxication, as wiping out his recollection of the hanky theft). I would be delighted to receive further information about these HENRYs, and would happily swap information with anyone who *might* be linked to my Frederick HENRY. Greetings from Oz, Lesley (In soggy Nundle, NSW, Australia)

Very unlikely I would have thought. Fund-holders and hanky stealers do not really go together. And if they did it would be in the papers. But these descriptions are interesting, dress making and funded proprietor, do not usually go together. Was she the mistress not the wife? I know people sometimes (well often) exaggerate their social position but it is odd if there is a connection. In any case the surnames are very common. Edward Riou Crawford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Albertson" <lesley.albertson@bigpond.com> To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:16 AM Subject: [Carib] Looking for Elizabeth HENRY (b. 1792) ... from London and the West Indies? > Hi Listers, > > For many years now, I have been looking for my 2g-grandfather Frederick > HENRY ... who was born c1809, according to his Australian (NSW) Death > certificate, in London. Parents, according to the same Death > Certificate, were Thomas HENRY and Elizabeth JONES. > > Frederick was convicted at the Old Bailey in London in 1830, for > stealing a handkerchief value 3s, and was transported to NSW, where he > spent the rest of his life. His Convict His Convict Indent gives his > occupation as Actor, Hatter (3 years) and Clerk ... not your average > convict (he was certainly literate). > > Now, a possible breakthrough came when I found an Elizabeth HENRY, > dressmaker, in the 1841 Census, living in St Pancras. The 1851 and 1861 > Censuses show her *still* living in that area, with sons Nicholas C (b. > 1825, West Indies, Landed Proprietor & Banker Clerk), and Albert C C > (b. 1831, St. Kitts, West Indies, a Clerk on the Stock Exchange). > > Elizabeth herself was b. 1792, in Totteridge, Hertfordshire, and is > described as *Fund Holder & West India Proprietor*. > > Maybe I am clutching at straws ... but Elizabeth is certainly the right > age, and the occupation *Clerk* gives me hope :-) > > I wonder, does anyone on the list know who these HENRYs are? I would > *love* them to be relatives of my Frederick HENRY - who died 1872 in > Tamworth, NSW, after a varied career which included serving his time as > a convict on a farm in Dungog, working as a Police Constable in Clarence > Town, and selecting land in Woolomin, NSW, in 1862. > > (He also owned the Union Hotel there for several years - a kind of > amusing end for someone who pleaded intoxication, as wiping out his > recollection of the hanky theft). > > I would be delighted to receive further information about these HENRYs, > and would happily swap information with anyone who *might* be linked to > my Frederick HENRY. > > Greetings from Oz, > > > Lesley > (In soggy Nundle, NSW, Australia) > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers (and Edward), > Very unlikely I would have thought. Fund-holders and hanky stealers do > not really go together. And if they did it would be in the papers. He pleaded intoxication, at the Old Bailey ... and almost at the end of his life, was the publican of the Union Hotel, in Woolomin NSW. There is also, in the 1851 Census, a Thomas HENRY, unmarried, b. 1815, a Brewer with Hanbery & Cooper ... born *Demerer*, West Indies (Demerara?), living with his unmarried sister Eliza, b.1818 in St George, Middlesex. (This latter seems to be St. George, Hanover Square, where she later married William Thomas Sheldon SMITH) > But these descriptions are interesting, dress making and funded > proprietor, do not usually go together. Was she the mistress not the > wife? I know people sometimes (well often) exaggerate their social > position but it is odd if there is a connection. In any case the > surnames are very common. Well, that's possible - certainly, there seems to be no sign of a husband :-) The owner of the house was an unmarried niece, those name has been incorrectly transcribed as Catherine DOROTHY. (It is actually Catherine DOWDING). HENRY is not all *that* common - and certainly, there is no Frederick HENRY born at around the right time in Family Search, or Findmypast. (His age is given as 20, on his Old Bailey record (in 1830), and from that and his Australian records, I calculate his birth to be around September, 1809). Whatever the answer is, it has eluded me for a very long time ... so all contributions are welcome :-) Cheers, Lesley (In soggy Nundle, Australia)