Hi Robert, I really am not sure if the following will be of use to you but it is worth having a look at. Seems to be that some family's that had Liverpool - West Indies ties donated letters and documents to the Liverpool Archives/Library.  This seems to have happened during the mid 1950's, an example is the Parker family papers, they cover a lot of 'ground'.  Much of which is partly available online.   The down side of it is the Liverpool A/L is due for major renovations starting very soon, if not already started.   Most if not all the collection is being rehoused for the duration. Also, have you tried the NAA or done an eBooks search for information?   Hope this turns out to of use to you.   Regards,   Ruth (looking for info re Gilbert Robertson of Kiltearn Plantation) --- On Tue, 15/6/10, Robert Clarke <musicart@anneclarke.com.au> wrote: From: Robert Clarke <musicart@anneclarke.com.au> Subject: [Carib] Tarleton estates To: CARIBBEAN@rootsweb.com Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 8:21 PM Hello listers I am interested in finding out details of the Tarleton family estates in the 18th century.  The Tarleton family of Liverpool, England operated considerable trading enterprises, including a major role in the slave trade. I understand they had estates in various parts of the general region including Dominca and Carriacou (I don't know this one) as well as other commercial bases in Grenada and possibly Jamaica. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I might find details of these estates and the records that accompany them.  I am particularly interested in the involvement of the Tench family who were related to the Tarletons by marriage. Many thanks in advance. Robert Clarke      *************************** The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for those suggestions Ruth. I have tried those sources and there are Tarleton papers in Liverpool but I was hoping that there would be something that would provide greater detail. But, like all these little challenges, we keep on keeping on! Thanks again Robert Clarke On 17/06/2010, at 9:17 PM, Ruth Murdoch wrote: > Hi Robert, > I really am not sure if the following will be of use to you but it is worth having a look at. > Seems to be that some family's that had Liverpool - West Indies ties donated letters and documents to the Liverpool Archives/Library. This seems to have happened during the mid 1950's, an example is the Parker family papers, they cover a lot of 'ground'. Much of which is partly available online. The down side of it is the Liverpool A/L is due for major renovations starting very soon, if not already started. Most if not all the collection is being rehoused for the duration. > Also, have you tried the NAA or done an eBooks search for information? > > Hope this turns out to of use to you. > > Regards, Ruth > (looking for info re Gilbert Robertson of Kiltearn Plantation) > --- On Tue, 15/6/10, Robert Clarke <musicart@anneclarke.com.au> wrote: > > > From: Robert Clarke <musicart@anneclarke.com.au> > Subject: [Carib] Tarleton estates > To: CARIBBEAN@rootsweb.com > Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 8:21 PM > > > Hello listers > > I am interested in finding out details of the Tarleton family estates in the 18th century. The Tarleton family of Liverpool, England operated considerable trading enterprises, including a major role in the slave trade. > > I understand they had estates in various parts of the general region including Dominca and Carriacou (I don't know this one) as well as other commercial bases in Grenada and possibly Jamaica. > > Can anyone point me in the direction of where I might find details of these estates and the records that accompany them. I am particularly interested in the involvement of the Tench family who were related to the Tarletons by marriage. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Robert Clarke > > > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert, This may not be of any use, but we patriots and Carolinians had a nemesis in an infamous fellow named Banastre Tarleton. He was born in Liverpool 21 Aug 1754, according to one book, which recounts: "He commenced the study of the law, but on the breaking out of the war with America, exchanged the gown for the sword. He was with Lord Cornwallis in his whole campaigns in the South . . . "the ardor of his temper and daring received a severe check at the Cowpens .. . 1781 from General Morgan." (Cowpens was a Revolutionary battle in which the patriots, even with an inferior force prevailed.) This entry goes on to recount his stature (below middle size) and his eyes (small, black, and piercing). It says he married "the daughter of the Duke of Ancaster and Kestevan." The book attributes its sketch to a book entitled "Georgia Era," published in London in 1833, page 470. Perhaps that book will have more on the Tarletons. I see elsewhere that this is a son of John Tarleton, the mayor of Liverpool. Apparently, he squandered his inheritance gambling and set out for America. Later he was in the House of Commons. It seems his brothers were Liverpudlian shippers and he supported their endeavors. I pick up this snippets: "At the time of his death John Tarleton was the partner of John Backhouse and possessed an estate "Fairfield" in Derby, an estate and store in the island of Curacao, a store in Grenada, and properties in Liverpool. ..." There is an interesting book online, "The slave trade: the story of the Atlantic slave trade" by Hugh Thomas that mentions Tarleton. I find one reference that "John Tarleton came to eminence during the 'silver age of sugar.' He also owned Belfield Estates on Dominica. British Records Relating to America in Microform, ed. W. E. Minchinton, American Material from the Tarleton Papers in the Liverpool Record Office, introduction by P.D. Rihardson (Unviersity of Hully, 1974), 10-15. John Tarleton had six other children [besides Banastre]: Thomas, John Jr., William, Clayton, Bridget, and Jane." My very cursory read shows: There is also an 1830 court case that references John Tarleton's bankruptcy in 1815, and which indicates his holdings may have included (bankruptcy lawyers tend to be rather sweeping) the islands of St. Vincent, St. Lucia, Trinidad and Demerara. I cannot tell wehther this is John Jr. or Sr., but I suspect the former. The bankruptcy documents may reveal specific holdings in the islands. And, finally, there are many Tarletons list in the Index to the Wills and Inventories Now Preserved in the Court of Probate, at Chester, From A.D. 1701 to 1720, which was printed in 1889 and is a Google Book. I hope this is somewhat helpful. The papers in Liverpool might be well worth a try. Best, Laura On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Robert Clarke wrote: > Hello listers > > I am interested in finding out details of the Tarleton family > estates in the 18th century. The Tarleton family of Liverpool, > England operated considerable trading enterprises, including a major > role in the slave trade. > > I understand they had estates in various parts of the general region > including Dominca and Carriacou (I don't know this one) as well as > other commercial bases in Grenada and possibly Jamaica. > > Can anyone point me in the direction of where I might find details > of these estates and the records that accompany them. I am > particularly interested in the involvement of the Tench family who > were related to the Tarletons by marriage. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Robert Clarke

Thanks Laura, that's very helpful. Banastre was not quite as bad as Hollywood has portrayed, but I do admit he did have some strong faults. I'm also not sure that he was the smartest kid on the block. Anyway.... Again, many thanks. Robert Clarke On 18/06/2010, at 10:22 AM, LAlderson@nc.rr.com wrote: > Robert, > This may not be of any use, but we patriots and Carolinians had a > nemesis in an infamous fellow named Banastre Tarleton. He was born in > Liverpool 21 Aug 1754, according to one book, which recounts: "He > commenced the study of the law, but on the breaking out of the war > with America, exchanged the gown for the sword. He was with Lord > Cornwallis in his whole campaigns in the South . . . "the ardor of his > temper and daring received a severe check at the Cowpens .. . 1781 > from General Morgan." (Cowpens was a Revolutionary battle in which the > patriots, even with an inferior force prevailed.) This entry goes on > to recount his stature (below middle size) and his eyes (small, black, > and piercing). It says he married "the daughter of the Duke of > Ancaster and Kestevan." > > The book attributes its sketch to a book entitled "Georgia Era," > published in London in 1833, page 470. Perhaps that book will have > more on the Tarletons. > > I see elsewhere that this is a son of John Tarleton, the mayor of > Liverpool. Apparently, he squandered his inheritance gambling and set > out for America. Later he was in the House of Commons. It seems his > brothers were Liverpudlian shippers and he supported their endeavors. > > I pick up this snippets: "At the time of his death John Tarleton was > the partner of John Backhouse and possessed an estate "Fairfield" in > Derby, an estate and store in the island of Curacao, a store in > Grenada, and properties in Liverpool. ..." > There is an interesting book online, "The slave trade: the story of > the Atlantic slave trade" by Hugh Thomas that mentions Tarleton. > > I find one reference that "John Tarleton came to eminence during the > 'silver age of sugar.' He also owned Belfield Estates on Dominica. > British Records Relating to America in Microform, ed. W. E. > Minchinton, American Material from the Tarleton Papers in the > Liverpool Record Office, introduction by P.D. Rihardson (Unviersity of > Hully, 1974), 10-15. John Tarleton had six other children [besides > Banastre]: Thomas, John Jr., William, Clayton, Bridget, and Jane." > > My very cursory read shows: There is also an 1830 court case that > references John Tarleton's bankruptcy in 1815, and which indicates his > holdings may have included (bankruptcy lawyers tend to be rather > sweeping) the islands of St. Vincent, St. Lucia, Trinidad and > Demerara. I cannot tell wehther this is John Jr. or Sr., but I suspect > the former. The bankruptcy documents may reveal specific holdings in > the islands. > > And, finally, there are many Tarletons list in the Index to the Wills > and Inventories Now Preserved in the Court of Probate, at Chester, > From A.D. 1701 to 1720, which was printed in 1889 and is a Google Book. > > I hope this is somewhat helpful. The papers in Liverpool might be well > worth a try. > > Best, > Laura > > On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Robert Clarke wrote: > >> Hello listers >> >> I am interested in finding out details of the Tarleton family >> estates in the 18th century. The Tarleton family of Liverpool, >> England operated considerable trading enterprises, including a major >> role in the slave trade. >> >> I understand they had estates in various parts of the general region >> including Dominca and Carriacou (I don't know this one) as well as >> other commercial bases in Grenada and possibly Jamaica. >> >> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I might find details >> of these estates and the records that accompany them. I am >> particularly interested in the involvement of the Tench family who >> were related to the Tarletons by marriage. >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Robert Clarke > > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message