The results to date seem heavily weighted to the period of civil registrationonwards omitting many earlier church records.Does anyone know what years are included so far? And of course records missing from the original films are also missing from the online results. What would be really helpful would be a project returning to the original source records in Spanish Town or the Archives and filling in the gaps. I'll join a volunteer group for that! On admin matters; Why if one is looking for a death/burial does one have to plough through pages of births/baptisms first? Why isnt there a "jump to page (eg) 40" --one has to hit the next button all the time to get there. But it is progress nevertheless!

Folks, I hope you listers don't mind my meager finds; I am hoping they might someday make someone's day. The latest find is that there appear to be, at National Archives in Washington, D.C., the "Proceedings of the Frederiksted Probate Court, Estate of Johannes and Mary Jackson, 1903, as well as the "Certificate of Citizenship (Borgebrev) for Malcolm M. Skeoch, 1903. These entries are found on page 203 of the Record Group 55 Finding Aid published in 2001. On page 204 of the same guide: "Records Concerning the Reumert Estates, 1835-1849," and "Christiansted Sheriff, Case of Patrick Murphy, 1845-1849." On page 205 of the finding aid: Box 7 - Records Concerning the Deaths of Foreigners 1841, 1848-1849. I've not been to visit these boxes, but I would be interested in exchanging emails with anyone who has been there. Cheers, all, Laura

Alba Dunlop wrote: Thanks Cathy for informing the list. I have been doing arbitration and indexing on the Jamaican records and have been appalled at the errors I have seen. For example the mothers occupation - higgler or cook was listed as the surname. Some of the members of my family are there and I knew it was them but the names have been changed dramatically. So be aware. Alba >Hello Everyone, > >In case you are not aware www.familysearch.org has just added many new >names this week. I found a lot for Grenada and Jamaica that hadn't >been there before. There are the usual kinds of transcription errors, >so get creative with your search! > >Thanks to all the folks who worked hard and are still working hard on >this project. > >Cathy A. > > >

Hello Everyone, In case you are not aware www.familysearch.org has just added many new names this week. I found a lot for Grenada and Jamaica that hadn't been there before. There are the usual kinds of transcription errors, so get creative with your search! Thanks to all the folks who worked hard and are still working hard on this project. Cathy A. Here was the notice on the Family Search Wiki: Over 300 Million New Names Added Online There were over 150 new collections added or enhanced this week at FamilySearch.org. FamilySearch volunteers indexed over 120 million records--over 300 million new names--from original source documents to accomplish this great feat. The massive release was annouced this past week at the National Genealogical Society annual conference in Salt Lake City, Utah. The records can be found at FamilySearch's Record Search pilot (FamilySearch.org, click Search Records, and then click Record Search pilot) or Beta.FamilySearch.org. Be sure to share the good news with family and friends.

Just a small find, but someone may be looking just for her! http://files.usgwarchives.org/ga/cobb/cemeteries/citizen.txt Mrs. Margaret Potter Tatem b. Isle of St. Martin, West Indies Sept. 12, 1810 d. Atlanta, Ga., Feb. 5, 1863 Cheers, everyone, Laura

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> I have added a section in my dissertation about the women in the Haitian Revolution; and during my research, I came upon some information about women workers in Haitian Salt Mines, which I thought was interesting. > > Can anyone on the list give me some leads on where to find more information on this subject, and whether or not there are still women working in salt mines in Haiti? Any particular women leaders? Do salt mines still exist today? I've been told that there are, but the person wasn't able to give me much more information than that. > > Thanks, > ~ Clare ~

>I have added a section in my dissertation about the women in the >Haitian Revolution; and during my research, I came upon some >information about women workers in Haitian Salt Mines, which I >thought was interesting. > >Can anyone on the list give me some leads on where to find more >information on this subject, and whether or not there are still >women working in salt mines in Haiti? Any particular women >leaders? Do salt mines still exist today? I've been told that >there are, but the person wasn't able to give me much more >information than that. > >Thanks, >~ Clare ~

For those of you who subscribe to Footnote, I came upon a 47 July 1840 letter signed by owners of estates in St. John's. It is catalogued within "Overview of the Votes by The Planters of St. Croix," but the St. John's letter is tucked in at the end, beginning on page 80. The handwriting is difficult, but the estate names & owners can probably be made out by those more familiar with St. John's. http://www.footnote.com/image/179173102/#179174144 Happy hunting all, Laura

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Hi lister, The Royal Danish American Gazette is available at the royal Danish Library, Site link is : http://primo-7.kb.dk/primo_library/libweb/action/display.do?tab=default_tab&fromLogin=true&dum=true&fn=search&dscnt=0&dstmp=1271349122294&ct=display&vid=KGL&indx=1&vl(freeText0)=Royal%20Danish%20American%20Gazette,&doc=KGL01_PRIMO002164754&vl(14133430UI0)=any&vl(14750036UI1)=all_items&vid=KGL Most often the copying service is able to provide anyone with a scanning on a CD of the documents Two years ago I ordered a 650 pages english book on a CD, the price amounted to 500 Danish Kroner ( about 70 euros) all inclusive Mrs Birgitte Oerneborg was the one in charge of digitising the document at The Royal Library,Copenhagen University Library Req-Post : req@kb.dk I noticed that there was another newspaper available at the danish Library: The Royal Saint Croix Gazette. Published by Authorithy. Aug. 14, 1813-March 29, 1815. [St. Croix. Christiansstæd] Fol. Hope this helps, GOOD LUCK Philippe CLERC (France) ----- Original Message ----- From: <LAlderson@nc.rr.com> To: "Caribbean List" <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: [Carib] [CARIB] Newspapers, Antigua, Tortola, St. Croix, St. Thomas,late 1700s-mid1800s > > Hello, Listers, > Is there anyone on the list who has accessed any of the microfilm (or > physical copies) of the newspapers? I'm esp. interested in the Avis > aka Royal Danish American Gazette, but am having trouble finding the > microfilm in the continental US. Any ideas very welcome. > > Laura in a pollen-dusted NC > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Listers, Is there anyone on the list who has accessed any of the microfilm (or physical copies) of the newspapers? I'm esp. interested in the Avis aka Royal Danish American Gazette, but am having trouble finding the microfilm in the continental US. Any ideas very welcome. Laura in a pollen-dusted NC

Thanks to all for their answers on my question on the Crook boys and girls. I've always enjoyed this group and the knowledge that this list possesses. Based on the answers that I got, I take it to mean that these children were in charge of taking care of livestock, pasturing them, loading them up, driving them, etc. There was a fair amount of livestock on these estates inventory. In the 1850 St. Croix census searching by occupation, there were a little over 100 'Crooks'- all adolescent with only a couple in their young 20's. I do recall seeing a photo from St. Croix from 1871 with a pack of ladened donkeys being led by young boys (no adults). In the 1837 inventory that I was reviewing, all the slaves between age 12 and 17 were on the 'Crook gang' except for one girl who was a 'House girl' (house servant). If you were a slave, being a crook boy or girl was your station in life at this age on these plantations. The inventory is from 1 July 1837 for Estates St. George, Sally's Fancy and Hope in St. Croix, Danish West Indies. As such, the slaves are listed out by name (first name only), age, occupation and ability to work- In effect, it is a slave census for these plantations. Unfortunately, they are not listed by family groups, but rather by male or female, occupation, and age. If anyone thinks their ancestors may be in this inventory, let me know and I'll take a look for you. Dante

[Note: This revision, using the 93 flag & 0=Sun, and adding further parameters to cover certain Old Style Julian dates, adds two references to make it evident the original method was created as a user-friendly alternative to Mike Keith's in 1990. Since then it wasn't extended to calculate & show Old Style dates & calendars--until now via a newly defined Doomsdate parameter. Some awkward lines have been reworded. Please post comments, if any, via Usenet or ccnet. Thanks.] HOW TO CALCULATE THE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR JULIAN DATES AS OF 1.iii.IV - via Hans' E-Z Wondrous 2-Fold 3-Step 4-Function Calculator Method - This is a less involved method to calculate the day of the week for dates on Julian calendars from 1.iii.IV and as far into the future as workable using standard four-function calculators and certain mobile phones via a generalised formula requiring fewer key-clicks than any previous method (not relying on tables). Given: Day.Month.Year as a Date on the Julian Calendar (starting with 01.march.0004 as the earliest Date to be converted); & YLJLD as the 'Year in which the Last Julian Leap Day occurred' before the given Date for a Julian Calendar whose years begin on January 1st (starting at IV A.D, so that YLJLD is a positive multiple of 4); or Y2MB as the (historical) Julian 'Year 2 Months Before' the given Date whereby YLJLD/4 = Integer(Y2MB/4); one can convert the given Date into a day of the week after completing the 3 steps below using a standard four-function calculator with less than 3 dozen key-clicks (or at most 3 dozen using RPN & algebraic ones). STEP 1. Calculate the given Date's MonthIndex: Month * 2.56 + 93 (or 94 for certain old-style dates) and then drop the fraction, and the hundreds digit, if any, e.g. 123.72 becomes 23, to get an integer less than 100. STEP 2. Apply the generalised formula for converting the Date: (YLJLD/4 + Year + MonthIndex + Day) / 7 (If one knows YLJLD, one may use that for Y2MB, which in effect is identical to applying Hans' older formula of 1990's vintage.) 2.a. Calculate YLJLD/4 Divide Y2MB by 4. If the result has a decimal portion, re- -enter just the integer portion; 2.b. Continue with the remainder of the formula STEP 3. Apply Hans' keypad mapping: Take the first digit after the decimal point (if none, use 0) and map that to a day using the following patterns: +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Fri | Sat | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 7 | 8 | 9 | | Mon | Tue | | +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Wed | Thu | | | 4 | 5 | 6 | | 4 | 5 | 6 | | Wed | Thu | | +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Mon | Tue | | | 7 | 8 | 9 | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | Fri | Sat | | +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Sun | | 0 | | 0 | | Sun | +-----+ +-----+ (This is equivalent to assigning days to remainders of divisions by 7 as for: Sun=0 Mon=1 Tue=2 Wed=3 Thu=4 Fri=5 Sat=6.) The use of a value of IV A.D. for YLJLD in Hans' Method remains valid, even if IV A.D. was not a leap year as claimed by some historians, if it is used just for dates after February IV, whereby a value of IV A.D. for YLJLD is a boundary condition for valid conversions on later (historical) Julian dates. If IV A.D. is a leap year, Hans' Method is historically correct for Julian dates as far back as 1.iii.N by allowing, as do astronomers, a value of 0 for YLJLD as well as Julian year 'N'--the improvised Roman numeral for 0. EXAMPLE N. December 12th, 287 Y2MB = 287 12 * 2.56 + 93 = 123.72 (MonthIndex = 23) 287 / 4 = 71.75 71 + 287 + 23 + 12 Divide by 7 = 56.142857... first decimal = 1 Day of Week = Mon EXAMPLE I. October 13th, 1307 Y2MB = 1307 10 * 2.56 + 93 = 118.6 (MonthIndex = 18) 1307 / 4 = 326.75 326 + 1307 + 18 + 13 Divide by 7 = 237.714285... first decimal = 7 Day of Week = Fri EXAMPLE II. June 15th, 1215 Y2MB = 1215 6 * 2.56 + 93 = 108.36 (MonthIndex = 8) 1215 / 4 = 303.75 303 + 1215 + 8 + 15 Divide by 7 = 220.142857... first decimal = 1 Day of Week = Mon EXAMPLE III. February 8th, 1587 Y2MB = 1586 2 * 2.56 + 93 = 98.12 (MonthIndex = 98) 1586 / 4 = 396.5 396 + 1587 + 98 + 8 Divide by 7 = 298.428571... first decimal = 4 Day of Week = Wed EXAMPLE IV. January 30th, 1649 Y2MB = 1648 2.56 + 93 = 95.56 (MonthIndex = 95) 1648 / 4 = 412 (no need to re-enter) + 1649 + 95 + 30 Divide by 7 = 312.285714... first decimal = 2 Day of Week = Tue MODIFICATION FOR YEARS BEGINNING AFTER 1.i With just one modification, Hans' method is adaptable to Old Style dates too, such that it still is easy to do with a standard calculator, if not mentally. Because Julian & Old Style years overlap, Lag is zero from March 25th till December 31st; afterwards, Lag is +1 till the end of the Old Style year on March 24th for the common English usage of 'Old Style' as below. Including this lag into Step 1 replaces the Julian flag of 93 by 94. Y2MB remains defined in terms of the historical (Julian) calendar. (For the usage of 'Old Style' applicable to Anglo-Saxon times, include a lag of -1 after Step 1 is completed--an exercise left to the Reader.) EXAMPLE V. March 15th, 1751 Y2MB = 1752 3 * 2.56 + 94 = 101.68 (MonthIndex = 1) 1752 / 4 = 438 (no need to re-enter) + 1751 + 1 + 15 Divide by 7 = 315. first decimal = 0 Day of Week = Sun EXAMPLE VI. March 28th, 1752 Y2MB = 1752 3 * 2.56 + 93 = 100.68 (MonthIndex = 0) 1752 / 4 = 438 (no need to re-enter) + 1752 (+ 0) + 28 Divide by 7 = 316.857142... first decimal = 8 Day of Week = Sat EXAMPLE VII. February 8th, 1586 Y2MB = 1586 2 * 2.56 + 94 = 99.12 (MonthIndex = 99) 1586 / 4 = 396.5 396 + 1586 + 99 + 8 Divide by 7 = 298.428571... first decimal = 4 Day of Week = Wed EXAMPLE IIX. January 30th, 1648 Y2MB = 1648 2.56 + 94 = 96.56 (MonthIndex = 96) 1648 / 4 = 412 (no need to re-enter) + 1648 + 96 + 30 Divide by 7 = 312.285714... first decimal = 2 Day of Week = Tue (the day Charles I met his doom) And just when you thought that all's well, there lurks... AN OLD STYLE DOOMSDAY SLIDING CALENDAR a..mJ.o..aJ.sD.jF.mN.a..mJ.o..aJ.sD.jF u..aA.c..pU.eE.uE.aO.u..aA.c..pU.eE.uE g..yN.t..rL.pC.nB.rV.g..yN.t..rL.pC.nB su mo tu we th fr sa ......................1..2..3..4..5..6 .1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9.10.11.12.13 .8..9.10.11.12.13.14.15.16.17.18.19.20 15.16.17.18.19.20.21.22.23.24.25.26.27 22.23.24.25.26.27.28.29.30.31 29.30.31 This table will give calendars that are the same as for mar-dec of the historical Year, and for the following jan & feb of the Old Style year. Each Month is displayed vertically in its own column, usually in lower case, or in pairs, in which case the later month will be ALL CAPS. The column of dates underneath are those of all corresponding "Doomsdates"- -defined as all dates for which MonthIndex + Day is divisible by 7. Thus, all Old Style January 30ths are a Doomsdate. "Doomsday" is defined as the weekday on which Doomsdates occur in said twelve-month span. Because MonthIndex + Day is divisible by 7, one may simplify Step 2 by omitting both terms from that calculation, and so find the Doomsday, as in Step A below. This Doomsday is used in Steps B & C to display calendars just by sliding the row of weekdays--by adding or deleting spaces to the left of 'su'. Copy & paste the table into a text-editor with a monospaced font, e.g. Courier, and do as follows: A. Calculate Doomsday: For the given Year in the Old Style calendar, calculate the weekday of its Doomsdates using (YLJLD/4 + Year) / 7, and then applying Step 3's keypad mapping. B. Display the calendar for March & November: Slide the row of weekdays so that the weekday of Doomsday rests over 28 to show the calendar for the March that begins the Year with Lady Day. One has as well the calendar for the following November. C. Display calendars for the other 10 months: for any month other than March or the following November: slide the row of weekdays to put Doomsday under the month to be displayed. D. Display calendars for months in Century 21: if you're patient and can wait until 1.iii.MMC, the foregoing will also work for the remainder of that Century in the Gregorian calendar. (Why?) Q. How would you modify Step A for any earlier Gregorian Century? (There's more than one right answer.) -- REFERENCES: http://oz.ccnet.us/dayofweek/ http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/zel-like.htm#Keith http://www.angelfire.com/my/zelime/calendarslide.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_rule#Overview_of_all_Doomsdays

On Apr 8, 10:49 pm, jrbolibuss <lloydharra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Laura is correct, but the crook itself is a sort of saw-horse > placed on a cushion (grass stuffed in a jute bag) on the animal's > back. The sambwa which i think is pannier in English are hung from the > crook. > In Trinidad you crook your cocoa to the cocoa house. And the noun > became a verb meaning "to carry" > I suspect that all these kids were doing is picking up the cane and > loading it on the carts. This work was usually > done by women, with the kids helping out sometimes. > > H > On Apr 7, 10:18 am, LAlder...@nc.rr.com wrote: > > > Very interesting question, Dante. From a book online entitled   > > Dictionary of Caribbean English Usage: crook n (StVn) Box-crook (Dmca)   > > catacou 2. (Angu) crock (Dmca)( donkey-box (Antg) a double carrier   > > consisting of two side-baskets, or made of light, curved, iron bars or   > > wood (box-crook) slung across the back of a donkey, for transporting   > > ground-provisions, etc. ) . . earliest cit 1657 f. Ligon Barbadoes. > > > This reminds me of those bucolic etchings depicting a worker walking   > > alongside a thus-loaded pack animal. > > > Cheers, > > Laura > > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:00 AM, caribbean-requ...@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:39:48 -0500 > > From: Dante Beretta <dbere...@meltel.net> > > Subject: [Carib] Slavery- Crook boys and girls > > > I'm reviewing an 1837 inventory for a plantation on the island of St.   > > Croix, Danish West Indies (now U.S. Virgin Islands).  The slaves are   > > categorized as to their different jobs.  Most of the boys and girls   > > between age 7 and 11 are on the 'Grass Gang' which I understand to be   > > supplying grass/forage to the livestock.  Between age 12 and 17, most   > > of the boys and girls are listed as 'Crook Boy' or 'Crook Girl'.  I   > > can't find this term anywhere, but I assume it was outside work   > > preparing one for field work which was the work of the majority of the   > > adult slaves.  Does anyone have a clearer idea of what the term 'Crook   > > Boy' entailed when it came to life on the estates? > > > Dante > > > End of CARIBBEAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 37 > > **************************************** Drawings and explanations at http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/crook_moor.htm 1841 St. Croix census at http://stx.visharoots.org/db.html (search occupation contains "crook") lists some young crook girls and older male "crook drivers".

Laura is correct, but the crook itself is a sort of saw-horse placed on a cushion (grass stuffed in a jute bag) on the animal's back. The sambwa which i think is pannier in English are hung from the crook. In Trinidad you crook your cocoa to the cocoa house. And the noun became a verb meaning "to carry" I suspect that all these kids were doing is picking up the cane and loading it on the carts. This work was usually done by women, with the kids helping out sometimes. H On Apr 7, 10:18 am, LAlder...@nc.rr.com wrote: > Very interesting question, Dante. From a book online entitled   > Dictionary of Caribbean English Usage: crook n (StVn) Box-crook (Dmca)   > catacou 2. (Angu) crock (Dmca)( donkey-box (Antg) a double carrier   > consisting of two side-baskets, or made of light, curved, iron bars or   > wood (box-crook) slung across the back of a donkey, for transporting   > ground-provisions, etc. ) . . earliest cit 1657 f. Ligon Barbadoes. > > This reminds me of those bucolic etchings depicting a worker walking   > alongside a thus-loaded pack animal. > > Cheers, > Laura > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:00 AM, caribbean-requ...@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:39:48 -0500 > From: Dante Beretta <dbere...@meltel.net> > Subject: [Carib] Slavery- Crook boys and girls > > I'm reviewing an 1837 inventory for a plantation on the island of St.   > Croix, Danish West Indies (now U.S. Virgin Islands).  The slaves are   > categorized as to their different jobs.  Most of the boys and girls   > between age 7 and 11 are on the 'Grass Gang' which I understand to be   > supplying grass/forage to the livestock.  Between age 12 and 17, most   > of the boys and girls are listed as 'Crook Boy' or 'Crook Girl'.  I   > can't find this term anywhere, but I assume it was outside work   > preparing one for field work which was the work of the majority of the   > adult slaves.  Does anyone have a clearer idea of what the term 'Crook   > Boy' entailed when it came to life on the estates? > > Dante > > End of CARIBBEAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 37 > ****************************************

I have a family history story of Jamaica which site users might find interesting. Its re the Ffrench's there and you can find it at http://sites.google.com/site/ffrenchfamily/ffrench-s-in-jamaica As you will read we have a few brickwalls to deal with eg--How/why did the Ffrench's of Jamaica get there in the 1700's from Ireland and Mary Seacole's sister(s) All help appreciated! PS its 75 pages! Nancy (Nee Ffrench)