Thanks Chris I will do some digging on those references. No I do not believe he is related to those Lyons. His family either stayed in the UK or some went to Australia- my wife's connection. He had a habit of getting into trouble as in the war of 1812 he was captured by the Brig Yankee and had his ship confiscated. He was placed on a Portugese ship wiht most of his crew and let go having given his parole. Cheers Paul On 19/11/2010 11:39 PM, CM Codrington wrote: > Hi Paul > > There are any number of reasons a ship captain or master might be in jail > particularly relating to trade legalities such as "trading under neutral > flag" failure to pay duties, ad infinitum. > You might get lucky with George by doing a search online at British History > Online. Do a text search on "Calendar of State Papers Colonial" and see if > mention is not made in correspondence. Because his surname is quite common > in official matters over the history of the west Indies, you will probably > have to weed through a lot of hits.... Often if his situation was a matter > of debate pleas might be directed to the Committee on Trade and Plantations > in England. That correspondence comprises the mass of the "Calendars" > > Do you know if he is related to any of the Lyons who had interests in > Antigua and Barbados? That family had mercantile interests and spread out a > lot. There is material on them in History of Antigua, VL Oliver and various > other references. I'll poke around abit tonight and see if anything rings a > bell > > The Calendars provide all sorts of information on all sorts of things if one > has the patience to explore them > > Good Luck > ChrisCod > > >

Chris, glad to be able to pass it on. I'd like to pass on Happy Thanksgiving wishes to all the listers, in the U.S. and elsewhere! Augusta -----Original Message----- From: CM Codrington Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 06:02 To: caribbean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Carib] Fw: Digital Copies of Cases in Jamaica, 1774-1787 Thanks Augusta, good stuff! ChrisCod *************************** The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Augusta, good stuff! ChrisCod

This was a cross-post from the H-Caribbean list. Hope some of you find it useful. It's a tad too early for the French in Kingston. Augusta Elmwood Saint-Domingue Special Interest Group -----Original Message----- From: Audra A. Diptee Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 02:27 To: H-CARIBBEAN@H-NET.MSU.EDU Subject: Digital Copies of Cases in Jamaica, 1774-1787 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Editor's Note: The email below provides an updated link to the Jamaican Reporter and the Notes on Cases adjudged in Jamaica from 1774-1787 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi John, Many thanks for you kind words regarding our digitization of the Jamaican Reporter: http://etseq.law.harvard.edu/index.php/site/852_rare_18th_century_jamaican_reporter_digitized/ Best wishes, David Warrington CA Librarian for Special Collections Harvard Law School Library Cambridge, MA 02138 617-496-2115 warringt@law.harvard.edu >Subject: ANN: Digital Copies of Cases in Jamaica, 1774-1787 >From: "David Warrington" <warringt@law.harvard.edu> >Date: Thu, November 11, 2010 12:33 am > >Readers of H-Carribean may be interested to learn that the Harvard Law >School Library has digitized its copy of Notes of cases adjudged in >Jamaica, May 1774 to Dec. 1787 (Edinburgh : Printed by Adam Neill and >company, 1794). To our knowledge, the Library owns the only recorded >copy of this work. > >David Warrington >Librarian for Special Collections >Harvard Law School Library

Caribbean Cunninghams Possibly Markoe related. Listed as leads for further research. regarding the possibility that Elizabeth – born ca 1703 and widow of Peter Markoe born ca 1702 – was born Cunningham, not Ferrall, as shown on traditional histories. As of 2010 there is no documentation regarding her maiden name. There is much circumstantial evidence. There were many Cunynghams on St. Kitts in the late 1600's but so far no connections found. They are the only Cunningham clan so far found in the West Indies. They were Scots and some say associated with the Huguenots by marriage. They are detailed in Oliver’s Caribbeana. Surname variously spelled: Conningham, Conningheem, Conyngham, Konningham, etc etc. 1708 St. Thomas, DVI, John Cunningham of Spanishtown BVI at baptism of daughter Elizabeth along with baptisms of Crequis and Markoes of Spanishtown same date. John's wife was Elizabeth, no last name. 1700's John Cunningham married Susanna Markoe possibly St Eustatius. Not documented, From traditional history. Susannah shown as daughter of Jan Markoe Sr. 1716-1717 Spanishtown (Virgin Gorda BVI) James Cunningham on inhabitants list with wife Elizabeth, seven children and five slaves. Shows from ST. Eustatius. Markoes and Crequis also there. 1717-1718 Spanishtown (Virgin Gorda BVI) John Cunningham listed in petition to move to St. Croix. James Cunningham also listed. Markoes and Crequis also signed. 1727 Spanishtown (Virgin Gorda BVI) James Cunningham signs allegiance letter at accession of King George II of England. Markoes and Crequis also signed. 1731 Dutch St. Eustatius William Cunningham of Anguilla living Spanishtown marries Johanna Barens. His mother shown as widow Elizabeth Jong (AKA Young), Johanna's parents listed as Willem Barens and Johanna Langmeet 1736 Jannis Conningham, who in 1736 was residing on British Tortola, had an estate at Green Cay, Danish St. Croix, and Thomas Huus was living there. 1737 Spanishtown (Virgin Gorda BVI) James Cunningham's will mentions wife Elizabeth, son James, daughter Elizabeth and "Father" Philip Markoe and "brother" John Markoe. Will written at Greenwich, Rhode Island. 1743 Jacob Cunningham of Spanishtown (Virgin Gorda BVI) mentioned as cousin by William Young in will. Young's sister, Frances, had married a Francis Crequi 1745 Danish St. Croix JOHN CUNNINGHAM PROBATE 1745 ST CROIX 1748 Danish St. Croix EVANS Isaac marr. the widow Judith Cunningham St. Cr. 1748 1751 James Cunningham and Company received title to estates 5 & 6 Northside A Quarter, Danish St. Croix, on 30 March 1751, and they occupied the land in September 1751 1753 Danish St.Croix Leek Elisabeth marr. James Cunningham St. Cr. 1753 1767 Danish St Croix plantation owners Kunyngham James Nord side quarter Lit A 35 Kuyningham Printsens Quarter 36 N 3/4 Might be Smitt & Kuyningham 1768 Danish St. Croix JAMES CUNNINGHAM PROBATE 31 OCT FREDERIKSTED 1768 Danish St. Jan (St. John) WILLIAM CUNNINGHAM D PROBATE ST JAN 1773 Danish St. Croix Mrs.Elizabeth Ferrall (widow of Peter Markoe) names brother William Cunningham's daughter Elizabeth Cunningham in her will.

Hmmmmmmm......? Rather a sweeping statement Cod ! I take it you don't have personal experience of the time period <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Only so long as we may be positioned UP wind.... > > Although not universally necessary due to certain cultures bathing > frequently :) > > (unlike my English ancestors.....) > > Cod

No personal experience I can ah recall... But the literature suggests a strenuous olfactory workout where Europeans are congregating in the 17th, 18th, and substantial portion of the 19th. Just as an encounter with the chamber pots arrayed in the stairways of Versailles might be somewhat disillusioning to those of us spoiled by modern plumbing Cod

Only so long as we may be positioned UP wind.... Although not universally necessary due to certain cultures bathing frequently :) (unlike my English ancestors.....) Cod

Begin forwarded message: From: LAlderson@nc.rr.com Date: November 21, 2010 12:37:52 PM EST To: caribbean@rootsweb.com Subject: [Carib] What ancestor would you invite to a family dinner? Another list started this, and I thought it an excellent idea. I'd surely like to chat up Charles Woods, physician, of St. Croix (ca 1750-1810). Or perhaps his granddaughter Mary Jane Woods (1829-1892). My dear mother, who is 91, told me once that she fervently hoped there would be a kind of receiving line in heaven, so that when one arrives, one might finally meet one's ancestors. "How do you do? You know, I've always wondered about you . . . " Not a bad concept, no? Cheers everyone. Laura in a balmy North Carolina

Dear Laura - Sorry - I meant George Lyons with family connections to Isaacs and Salmon - First mistake in a long time! - Regards Richard

Hi, Richard, Just wondering what century he would be in? Cheers, Laura On Nov 20, 2010, at 3:00 AM, caribbean-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:44:50 EST From: RLYMAN3529@aol.com Subject: Re: [Carib] George Lyons died Jamaica 1820 To: caribbean@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <79f9b.6a5eed53.3a180382@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" To Whomever - Do we have any further information on George Isaacs? - Possible connections to the Isaacs and Salmon families of Jamaica - Thank you - Richard

George Lyons was the captain of the James and Mary and according to a Liverpool newspaper he died in Jamaica in 1820 of the fever ( yellow?) that was prevalent. His son George also died at that time. According to one descendant he was in prison at the time, which is odd being the master of a ship. Can anyone help me find any death record in Jamaica or any details of his death and imprisonment if indeed he was in prison. Thanks Paul

To Whomever - Do we have any further information on George Isaacs? - Possible connections to the Isaacs and Salmon families of Jamaica - Thank you - Richard

Hi Paul There are any number of reasons a ship captain or master might be in jail particularly relating to trade legalities such as "trading under neutral flag" failure to pay duties, ad infinitum. You might get lucky with George by doing a search online at British History Online. Do a text search on "Calendar of State Papers Colonial" and see if mention is not made in correspondence. Because his surname is quite common in official matters over the history of the west Indies, you will probably have to weed through a lot of hits.... Often if his situation was a matter of debate pleas might be directed to the Committee on Trade and Plantations in England. That correspondence comprises the mass of the "Calendars" Do you know if he is related to any of the Lyons who had interests in Antigua and Barbados? That family had mercantile interests and spread out a lot. There is material on them in History of Antigua, VL Oliver and various other references. I'll poke around abit tonight and see if anything rings a bell The Calendars provide all sorts of information on all sorts of things if one has the patience to explore them Good Luck ChrisCod

Dear Listers Although I was only on your list for a short time I would like to thank people for their help in my search for information on William Shaw who died at Carriacou in 1864. Unfortunately I have found that the person in question was not the member of the SHAW family from Crathie in Aberdeen that I am searching having found that his sister, Jane, who I was originally searching for was not the correct Jane in my research, so back to the drawing board in Scotland. Thank you once again for your help. Kind regards Joan in NSW, Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1084 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thank you so much for this, Dorothy! I was sure someone on this list would have some ideas for me. You seem to have given me two excellent leads which I will investigate. Once again, many thanks! Marie Cameron On 24/10/2010, at 5:00 PM, caribbean-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Baptisms in Bermuda? (Marie Cameron) > 2. Re: Baptisms in Bermuda? (Dorothy Kew) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:30:12 +1000 > From: Marie Cameron <mcameron@icr.com.au> > Subject: [Carib] Baptisms in Bermuda? > To: caribbean@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <18BAEE21-40CD-4E1E-A7AE-FC35135EE02E@icr.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I've just discovered that my ggggrandfather Lieut. John Cameron was > serving with his battalion in Bermuda at about the time his son Donald > Charles was probably born (1813-1814). I have not been able to find > any trace of a baptism in Britain, so I am thinking that he may have > been baptised in Bermuda. > > Can anyone give me any clues on how I might search for the baptism? I > believe that the family was Episcopalian/C of E. > > Any information gratefully received!! > > Thanks > > Marie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 10:15:18 -0400 > From: "Dorothy Kew" <dkew@cogeco.ca> > Subject: Re: [Carib] Baptisms in Bermuda? > To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D6EB5ECD9F324135B62482C98A1ADCFB@dkewmay09> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Marie: > > Bermuda vital statistics have not been microfilmed by the LDS. You > would > need to contact the Bermuda Archives, though they do not appear to do > in-depth research, but suggest you contact a researcher. Their > website is > at > http://www.gov.bm/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=429&mode=2&in_hi_userid=2&cached=true > > I suggest that you also take a look at the Bermuda Genealogy and > History > page at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bmuwgw/bermuda.htm which > is part > of the Caribbena Genweb. > > I hope that helps. > > Dorothy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marie Cameron" <mcameron@icr.com.au> > To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:30 AM > Subject: [Carib] Baptisms in Bermuda? > > >> I've just discovered that my ggggrandfather Lieut. John Cameron was >> serving with his battalion in Bermuda at about the time his son >> Donald >> Charles was probably born (1813-1814). I have not been able to find >> any trace of a baptism in Britain, so I am thinking that he may have >> been baptised in Bermuda. >> >> Can anyone give me any clues on how I might search for the >> baptism? I >> believe that the family was Episcopalian/C of E. >> >> Any information gratefully received!! >> >> Thanks >> >> Marie >> *************************** >> The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and >> Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1144 / Virus Database: 422/3213 - Release Date: >> 10/22/10 >> > > > > End of CARIBBEAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 114 > *****************************************

I've just discovered that my ggggrandfather Lieut. John Cameron was serving with his battalion in Bermuda at about the time his son Donald Charles was probably born (1813-1814). I have not been able to find any trace of a baptism in Britain, so I am thinking that he may have been baptised in Bermuda. Can anyone give me any clues on how I might search for the baptism? I believe that the family was Episcopalian/C of E. Any information gratefully received!! Thanks Marie

Hi Marie: Bermuda vital statistics have not been microfilmed by the LDS. You would need to contact the Bermuda Archives, though they do not appear to do in-depth research, but suggest you contact a researcher. Their website is at http://www.gov.bm/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=429&mode=2&in_hi_userid=2&cached=true I suggest that you also take a look at the Bermuda Genealogy and History page at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bmuwgw/bermuda.htm which is part of the Caribbena Genweb. I hope that helps. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Cameron" <mcameron@icr.com.au> To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:30 AM Subject: [Carib] Baptisms in Bermuda? > I've just discovered that my ggggrandfather Lieut. John Cameron was > serving with his battalion in Bermuda at about the time his son Donald > Charles was probably born (1813-1814). I have not been able to find > any trace of a baptism in Britain, so I am thinking that he may have > been baptised in Bermuda. > > Can anyone give me any clues on how I might search for the baptism? I > believe that the family was Episcopalian/C of E. > > Any information gratefully received!! > > Thanks > > Marie > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1144 / Virus Database: 422/3213 - Release Date: 10/22/10 >

Hi Cathy Many thanks for the list of LDS records available for Carriacou as part of Grenada. No deaths for 1864 it appears, but I will check the LDS library catalogue for St George in Grenada. I will check the old newspapers at the British Library and see what is available for Grenada & St George. Kind regards and thank you again for your interest. Joan in NSW, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy A." Hello, The LDS Family History Library does have records for Carriacou as part of Grenada. Here is what they have for Anglican parish records for Carriacou. Baptisms, marriages and burials 1842-1849 (transcript) FHL INTL Film 1523767 Item 5 Baptisms Oct. 1877-1888, Aug. 1900-1930 FHL INTL Film 1523767 Items 6-12 Marriages 1903-1930 FHL INTL Film 1523767 Item 13 Banns 1903-1930 FHL INTL Film 1523767 Item 14 As you can see, there are many gaps in the records. You may also want to check the parish records for St. George in Grenada. You can check the library catalog at www.familysearch.org For newspapers, the British Library has some old papers of the The St. George’s Chronicle and Grenada Gazette. There are also some papers at the American Antiquarian Society in Worcester, Massachusetts. I'm sure there are other locations too. Hope this helps, Cathy

Hi Marcos Thank you for your interest and reply and together with other members of the list I have some new search options to follow up on. I am doing this research on behalf of a close friend whose ancestors like yours were from Aberdeenshire as I mentioned. I actually found the reference to Carriacou through the burial records of the William's parents in Craithie, Abd where it stated William was in Grenada and stated William died in Carriacou. You never know what you can find on burial records!! I have also been advised of the records for the Anglican Church through the LDS centres but it appears these are few and far between which I don't doubt after reading the website for the Caribbean with the various catastrophes over the years. Thank you again Joan in NSW, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Reilly" > Carriacou is today politically part of Grenada. I think in the 19th > century it would have been part of the Windward Islands and records might > be found from St. George's Cathedral in Kingstown, St. Vincent (which are > available through the LDS centers), the administrative center of the > Windward Islands. My ancestors from other islands in the Grenadines show > up there, presumably because it was the nearest church of any size. I'm > not sure how far the records for Grenada go but I would check there as > well. > > > My ancestors in the Grenadines were also Scots from Aberdeenshire, by the > way. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1075 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message