Warner is a well known name in the eastern carribean eg St Kitts, Barbados. Is it possible one of your ancestors arrived via those islands and was a Warner? Richard Allicock wrote: > Hi Anthony, > > Yes it is quite possible that your grand-father came with the name Warner. > But then again he might not have. > > It was the practice of many Indians to take names from the gamut of names of > the Christianising group. So if your grand-father came with the name > Warner, he might have been Christianised by British Missionaries. If he had > come from a part of India colonised / christianised by the Portuguese he > might have had a Portuguese name, etc. > > But then again he might have been Anglo-Indian from India, or he might have > descended from a former indentured Indian and some one in the West Indies by > the name of Warner. > > Or he might have come with an Indian name and got Christianised and changed > his name to Warner. Then you might have to find out if there were any > Warners on the Plantation that he worked, what were the names of the > missionaries, overseers, doctors, teachers etc. If he was a Christian, after > he came, maybe you can find a record of his Baptism, which would say what > his previous name was etc. > > Then again he might have had an Indian name which was Anglicised by himself > after he came to make it more English sounding, or it may have been > Anglicised by some-one writing the records, or from the way that he was > addressed on the Estate. So you may have to consider the gamut of Indian > names and try to figure out which one might have been transformed to Warner > by the accent or ears or spelling of an English, Scots or Irish clerk or > overseer. > > But to get more help you should say how old your grand-father was when he > died and the year that he died. Then one can say for sure if he came during > the indentureship period. And if you can establish that he came for sure > during that period the first thing to do is to find to go and try to find > his indentureship contract, by using the year that he came, by working back > from the year that he died, how old he was when he died, and how old he was > when he came etc.. From there you can find a record of his landing by which > ship, port etc. and to which Plantation he was assigned. Old family members, > or family lore, or people who might have been descended from the group with > which he came, or even members of the group with which he came (if any are > still alive) might give you some info. or clues to find more information. > > I hope this helps. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R.Anthony Warner" <rawarner@vecollective.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: Jamaica-Indian Indentured labourer > > > I have been reading your post and you strike me as a very knowledgeable > > person. I am having the hardest time placing my grandfather who was of > east > > Indian descent (indentured labourer headman) with the name Warner. Is it > > possible that he came from some other place with the name Warner, of > course > > it is possible, but does anyone have any information that could guide me > in > > this way. > > Thanking the group, > > Anthony > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > What is a Mailing List? > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked

Philippe I haven't looked into this in detail ... and I'm sure that others on the list can explain more authoritatively. The term poor settlers was frequently used to denote indentured servants and transported people (eg criminals, political and religious desenters, 'enemies of the state', unwanted tenants etc). Indentured servants were supposed to be entitled to a few acres once their term had been completed but this was not always upheld. If the lists showed land owners they should include 'poor settlers' who held more than a certain amount of land - these may not include tenants. I notice that many so called lists of land holders were actually subscription lists - where people paid to get their name onto the document and to arrange for the map and list to be printed - such lists are unlikely to include the poor. Guy Grannum Dans l'article <000a01c30455$6c32b6a0$bee486d9@tinykncwubxl>, guy@gcgrannum.freeserve.co.uk ("Guy Grannum")a écrit : > >The plan of Dominica surveyed by John Byres, 1776 is held by The National >Archives (Public Record Office) under the reference CO 700/Dominica6. >According to 'Maps and Plans in the Public Record Office, vol 2 America and >West Indies' a printed reference book is attached containing a key to the >owners and the areas of lands. > >I've no idea about the other 2 questions you ask although you can apply for >an estimate for the cost of copying online via >http://www.pro.gov.uk/recordcopying/default.htm > >Hope that this helps > Bonjour Guy Merci beaucoup. I have a (bad) copy typescript of the reference book attached. I try to translate it in Word but I have to verify with the original list because the french names are sometimes wrong. An other questions : Some places are hold by "Poor Settlers". I never saw this in the french WI. Does that mean poors could have place ? Who gave it ? Or are they too poor to have their names recorded on the document ? Cordialement Philippe Rossignol ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/

Richard Copies of these maps are held by The National Archives (Public Record Office) under the following references: Bermuda by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 CO 700/Bermuda6 St Kitts by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 CO 700/CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS4 - taken from the PRO catalogue St Kitts by Samuel Baker, 1753 CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS5 - again taken from the PRO catalogue It is worth checking the PRO catalogue at http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk and 'Maps and Plans in the Public Record Office. Vol 2 America and West Indies' for early manuscript and published maps of the British American colonies - the Colonial Office and War Office created quite detailed map collections which have been transferred to The National Archives (PRO). Hope that this helps. Guy Grannum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:49 AM Subject: St. Kitts Maps > Does any-one have a copy of these maps? Please let me know. Thanks. > > > (1) A new and accurate map of Bermudas or Sommer's Islands: taken from an actual survey; wherein the errors of former charts are corrected; An accurate map of the Island of St. Christopher, vulgarly called St. Kitts. Containing all the towns, parishes and forts etc. > > Author: Emanuel Bowen. > > Published London 1750. > > (2) A new and exact map of St. Kitts in America: according to an actual and accurate survey made in the year 1753. Describing the several parishes, wit their respective limits, contents, & churches; also the high ways, the situation of every gentleman's plantation, mills, and houses; with rivers, and guts. Likewise the bays, roads, rocks, shoals and soundings that surround the whole. > > Authors: Samuel Baker, J. Mynde, Carington Bowles. Robert Wilkinson. > > Published London 1753 > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > >

Hi Guy, Thanks very much for the PRO refs. to the Maps. I also asked about any St. Kitts Censuses from 1700-1820. Any iformation to offer on this. Thanks. Looking forward to hearing from you. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Grannum" <guy@gcgrannum.freeserve.co.uk> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps > Richard > > Copies of these maps are held by The National Archives (Public Record > Office) under the following references: > > Bermuda by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > CO 700/Bermuda6 > > St Kitts by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > CO 700/CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS4 - taken from the PRO catalogue > > St Kitts by Samuel Baker, 1753 > CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS5 - again taken from the PRO catalogue > > It is worth checking the PRO catalogue at http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk and > 'Maps and Plans in the Public Record Office. Vol 2 America and West Indies' > for early manuscript and published maps of the British American colonies - > the Colonial Office and War Office created quite detailed map collections > which have been transferred to The National Archives (PRO). > > Hope that this helps. > > Guy Grannum > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:49 AM > Subject: St. Kitts Maps > > > > Does any-one have a copy of these maps? Please let me know. Thanks. > > > > > > (1) A new and accurate map of Bermudas or Sommer's Islands: taken from an > actual survey; wherein the errors of former charts are corrected; An > accurate map of the Island of St. Christopher, vulgarly called St. Kitts. > Containing all the towns, parishes and forts etc. > > > > Author: Emanuel Bowen. > > > > Published London 1750. > > > > (2) A new and exact map of St. Kitts in America: according to an actual > and accurate survey made in the year 1753. Describing the several parishes, > wit their respective limits, contents, & churches; also the high ways, the > situation of every gentleman's plantation, mills, and houses; with rivers, > and guts. Likewise the bays, roads, rocks, shoals and soundings that > surround the whole. > > > > Authors: Samuel Baker, J. Mynde, Carington Bowles. Robert Wilkinson. > > > > Published London 1753 > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Hi Anthony, Yes it is quite possible that your grand-father came with the name Warner. But then again he might not have. It was the practice of many Indians to take names from the gamut of names of the Christianising group. So if your grand-father came with the name Warner, he might have been Christianised by British Missionaries. If he had come from a part of India colonised / christianised by the Portuguese he might have had a Portuguese name, etc. But then again he might have been Anglo-Indian from India, or he might have descended from a former indentured Indian and some one in the West Indies by the name of Warner. Or he might have come with an Indian name and got Christianised and changed his name to Warner. Then you might have to find out if there were any Warners on the Plantation that he worked, what were the names of the missionaries, overseers, doctors, teachers etc. If he was a Christian, after he came, maybe you can find a record of his Baptism, which would say what his previous name was etc. Then again he might have had an Indian name which was Anglicised by himself after he came to make it more English sounding, or it may have been Anglicised by some-one writing the records, or from the way that he was addressed on the Estate. So you may have to consider the gamut of Indian names and try to figure out which one might have been transformed to Warner by the accent or ears or spelling of an English, Scots or Irish clerk or overseer. But to get more help you should say how old your grand-father was when he died and the year that he died. Then one can say for sure if he came during the indentureship period. And if you can establish that he came for sure during that period the first thing to do is to find to go and try to find his indentureship contract, by using the year that he came, by working back from the year that he died, how old he was when he died, and how old he was when he came etc.. From there you can find a record of his landing by which ship, port etc. and to which Plantation he was assigned. Old family members, or family lore, or people who might have been descended from the group with which he came, or even members of the group with which he came (if any are still alive) might give you some info. or clues to find more information. I hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.Anthony Warner" <rawarner@vecollective.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Jamaica-Indian Indentured labourer > I have been reading your post and you strike me as a very knowledgeable > person. I am having the hardest time placing my grandfather who was of east > Indian descent (indentured labourer headman) with the name Warner. Is it > possible that he came from some other place with the name Warner, of course > it is possible, but does anyone have any information that could guide me in > this way. > Thanking the group, > Anthony > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Anyone interested in what is currently be done about Spam email, or what they can do to help the anti-spam movement, go to the website: http://www.cauce.com Legislation is currently before Congress and AOL and several others are jointly pursuing litigation against some of the biggest spammers. C.J. =============== Heather Figueroa wrote: First of all, the date on this message was last September!! 7 months ago!! Why are you just discovering it now?? And more importantly, why are you publishing it in all its ugliness once again??? This guy is a well-known spammer, whose name escapes me at the moment, but he regularly spams the news groups.....which is how it got into your Inbox....via the gateway from the West Indies news group. The giveaway as to who is doing it is the 'gibberish' he spews after the hate message. He has been around news groups for years. And we have all (mostly) learned to ignore him. Please don't spread his messages again after 7 months. They are inflammatory and don't belong on here. Sorry Dean........the List Admin in me came out (as well as the anti-spam crusader). He hates the anti-spammer organizations who try to put him out of business. For the past year he has been branching out into hate posts, which include his gibberish as well. Cheers.......Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dot Hodge" <DotH@gbc.co.uk> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:28 AM > i've just discovered this in my in-box and am a little concerened... How did it get onto the list? > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: 18 September 2002 15:06 ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/

I have been reading your post and you strike me as a very knowledgeable person. I am having the hardest time placing my grandfather who was of east Indian descent (indentured labourer headman) with the name Warner. Is it possible that he came from some other place with the name Warner, of course it is possible, but does anyone have any information that could guide me in this way. Thanking the group, Anthony

When I found out about this book for the group, I sent for it and received it last Thursday. I have finished reading it and find it to be very informative. I would highly recommend it. Anthony

Highest Blessings! To locate, to identify the ancestry of the Sancho family, to account for every member of the Sancho family. Ma Omni's children are: Clarence Thomas - deceased, whose children are: Harold, Bridget, Lilian, Asquith, Leonard, Kenneth. They live in the USA. Henry Thomas - known as striking Henry - a boxer - deceased Albert is the descendent of Henry, who died before Albert was born Sonny Thomas - known as Sonny Shark - deceased Dora Samuels, whose children are: Emerson, Maybel. Maybel married Kingston, and had 15 (yes 15) children, some of whom are in the US and one in Dutch Guyana. Dora has 13 Grandchildren, 54 great grandchildren, 21 great, great grandchildren. Dora dies in her 92nd year in December 2001, in NY. If you are aware of folks who have Guyanese connection and have the following surnames you are hereby asked to inform them to contact the Sancho family researchers immediately. Surnames Associated with the Sancho Family. Abrams, Adams, Adkins, Agard, Alden, Alexander, Andries, Applewaite, Assanah Barnwell, Bastianni, Bayne, Baynes, Benn, Bradshaw, Brown Caines, Campbell, Carryl, Charles, Clarke, Cobb, Cosbert, Crawford, Cuffy, Cumberbatch David, Denbow, Denny, Dowridge, Duguid Ellcock, Elliott Frazier Gamble, Gill, Gillis, Glasglow, Graveande, Greene, Grovesnor Hamer, Haywood, Hinds, Hope, Hoppie, Hughes, Huntley Insole Jack, James, Johnson, Joseph, Joyce Kendall, Khan, King, Klein, Kowlessar Lake,Lambert, Lancaster, Lashley, Lawrence, LeJeune, Luke, Lutchman Mapp, Marious, Matthews, McIntosh, Mckenzie, Michael, Moore, Moses, Munro Oden, Ogle, Oxley Parkinson, Patterson, Peters, Phillips Ralph, Ramalho, Ramsey, Rasmussen, Richmond, Roberts, Robertson, Rodney, Rodrigues, Ross Samuels, Sancho, Sandy, Seales, Scotland, Sharper, Shell, Simmonds, Simmons, Sinclair, Singletary, Staurt, Stewart, St.Kitts, Sumner Tanner, Thomas, Tolbert, Trotman Valentine Weatherspoon, Willis, White. Subscribe to Sancho Mailing Lists at sancho-L-request@rootsweb.com For forums on Sancho family, balck life and culture, and the community of Sancho family adopted ancestral home in Guyana. log on to the following; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalsanchos http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldengrovenabaclis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/descendantsofsancho For the major Sancho Researchers Email Address Desmond Roberts email:jpdtrjude@aol.com Kenneth Robertson email:kajrob@aol.com Sidney Marious email:smariou@utnet.utoledo.edu Chioma Robertson-Phillips email:choway@aol.com Thanking you is Selwyn H. Ross a.k.a. M'lilwana Osanku - son of Muriel, brother of Mariette, great grandson of Tuckness Sancho.

The following, are groups of Roberts families who are associated with Sancho. If you know and or can assist in connecting the leaves stem and branches of the Sancho family tree please do assist. 1.Sarah Johnson a.k.a. Limmie Sancho of Golden Grove, married Creig Roberts and the union issued the following sons; Frederick, Stephen, and Winston Roberts. Derrick Roberts and Clothilde Roberts belong to this group of the Roberts family. 2.Auntie Mama Sancho - daughter of Tuckness Sancho, mother of Belle, Archie, and Ilene Kaiser George Roberts. Ann Richmond and Violence - who is known around Congress Place - belongs to this group 3. Stanley Roberts and Gertie Moses-Roberts of Victoria, the parents of Burch and MacLean Roberts. 4.The mother of Alexander Sancho - son of Tuckness Sancho - a Miss Roberts; a white woman, perhaps from Scotland, who went to Venezuela - one of her sons, Mr. Roberts, owned a lumber yard and lived near the Astor Cinema in Georgetown, British Guiana. 5.Cecil 'Skip' Roberts (Law enforcement officer,Guyana Police Force) married a daughter of Albert DeCastro of Golden Grove, East Coast Demerara. 6.Desmond Roberts (Guyana Defence Force, commissioned Officer) connected to the Roberts of Mahaica Subscribe to Sancho Mailing Lists at sancho-L-request@rootsweb.com For forums on Sancho family, balck life and culture, and the community of Sancho family adopted ancestral home in Guyana. log on to the following; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalsanchos http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldengrovenabaclis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/descendantsofsancho For the major Sancho Researchers Email Address Desmond Roberts email:jpdtrjude@aol.com Kenneth Robertson email:kajrob@aol.com Sidney Marious email:smariou@utnet.utoledo.edu Chioma Robertson-Phillips email:choway@aol.com Thanking you is Selwyn H. Ross a.k.a. M'lilwana Osanku - son of Muriel, brother of Mariette, great grandson of Tuckness Sancho.

I have just finished a web based Genealogy application that runs on a database back end. Login in as demo for all non changeable functions with sample data installed. http://www.assoft.com.au/genealogy/ Some points that may be of interest. 1) Uses a style sheet for all layout so is fully customisable from one file for all styles, fonts and colors. 2) User level access to all functions. 3) Demo mode to allow people to look but not change. 4) Multiple families able to access from one database. 5) Written in pure asp / html with no 3rd part controls for ease of editing. 6) Upload of genealogical images. 7) Full documented source with application. 8) Runs on Windows based servers. 9) one configuration file to change complete application If anyone or site is interested please contact me on: dgrover@assoft.com.au

thanks Ann,thats what I thought but had to be sure.Tony Ann Whiting <aqw8326@hotmail.com> wrote:Yes Tony, Sponsors are godparents, and on the marriage certificate, they would be the witnesses. Ann >From: tony figueroa >Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: sponsors..what are they? >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) > >Are names listed as sponsors on baptism certificate same thing as >godparents?.What about sponsors listed on marriage certificates? What are >tey?Tony Figueroa > >Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), >RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Yes Tony, Sponsors are godparents, and on the marriage certificate, they would be the witnesses. Ann >From: tony figueroa <tfiggytoo@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: sponsors..what are they? >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) > >Are names listed as sponsors on baptism certificate same thing as >godparents?.What about sponsors listed on marriage certificates? What are >tey?Tony Figueroa > >Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), >RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I am visiting ceneteries in Trenton, Belleville, Kingston and Brockville and area in Ontario for someone.If anyone needs anything from these areas let me know within a couple days. Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Are names listed as sponsors on baptism certificate same thing as godparents?.What about sponsors listed on marriage certificates? What are tey?Tony Figueroa Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Anyone know if this source is still available? Email doesn't work. Joan > History of Eastern Jamaica by "Christopher M. Codrington" > <coopcod@village.ios.com> --

Valentine Morris also owned Piercefield House in Wales. He was once Gov. of St. Vincent. Admiral Horatio Nelson and his companion are thought to have been sometime guests of the house while Morris owned it. Vincies might enjoy looking for the following book, which treats the surrender of St. Vincent to the French in 1779 by this Welshman: "A Vindication Of My Conduct" by Dr. Todd E. Harburn and Rodger Durham Heritage Books, Inc., 2002. ISBN 0-7884-2092-5 Paperback, 195 pages, several dozen illustrations, bibliography and index. Tian

Well, I found him, and he has an interesting history. The source of the following is an abstract of an article by John Evans, member of the Gwent County History Assoc. which can be found at: http://gwent-county-history-association.newport.ac.uk/newsletter/piercefield.html Nathaniel Wells, b. St. Kitts 1779 a black man, son of William Wells, sugar merchant and planter of Cardiff and one of his house slaves, whose name was Juggy. He later became Britain's only black sheriff (appointed Monmouthshire 1818). He died in Bath, England in 1852.

Following a herring here and would appreciate any leads: Piercefield House, Monmouthshire, South Wales, part of an older estate, which was sold in 1802 to someone called Nathaniel Wells, "who had inherited his fortune from his father, a merchant of St. Kitts in the Caribbean. Wells added to the estate until it reached a size of almost 3,000 acres." (from John Weston, Data Wales website at http://www.data-wales.co.uk/soane.htm) Anybody ever heard of this St. Kitts merchant? Tian Uddenberg

First of all, the date on this message was last September!! 7 months ago!! Why are you just discovering it now?? And more importantly, why are you publishing it in all its ugliness once again??? This guy is a well-known spammer, whose name escapes me at the moment, but he regularly spams the news groups.....which is how it got into your Inbox....via the gateway from the West Indies news group. The giveaway as to who is doing it is the 'gibberish' he spews after the hate message. He has been around news groups for years. And we have all (mostly) learned to ignore him. Please don't spread his messages again after 7 months. They are inflammatory and don't belong on here. Sorry Dean........the List Admin in me came out (as well as the anti-spam crusader). He hates the anti-spammer organizations who try to put him out of business. For the past year he has been branching out into hate posts, which include his gibberish as well. Cheers.......Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dot Hodge" <DotH@gbc.co.uk> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:28 AM > i've just discovered this in my in-box and am a little concerened... How did it get onto the list? > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: 18 September 2002 15:06