Back, after a long absence!.... .... with a book recommendation. Recently published, a reviewer comments: "The Scottish author James Robertson was much praised for his first novel, The Fanatic. His second, Joseph Knight, is a book of such quality as to persuade you that historical novels are the true business of the writer, that it's through the past that we might understand ourselves best, that it's in the past that the imagination can be most free, but also most authentic. Based on fact, and built out of hefty chunks of alternately tender and shocking fiction, the novel revolves around an 18th-century incident in which a black slave brought to Scotland from Jamaica fled his master and was subsequently set free by the courts on the grounds that the slave laws of Jamaica had no place in Scotland. The slave, Joseph Knight, had been the property of Sir John Wedderburn, a former Jacobite, who as a teenager had fled the butchery of Culloden and sailed to the West Indies with his brothers to rebuild the family fortune......". And from another... "Exiled to Jamaica after Culloden, Sir John Wedderburn makes a fortune as a sugar planter. On returning to Scotland, he brings with him Joseph Knight, one of the first slaves in Scotland. Changes in the intellectual, social and political climate in Scotland lead master and slave to engage in a court battle: one man trying to retain his property, the other to gain his freedom. Ranging from the back streets of Dundee to a mining community in Fife and the heart of Enlightenment Edinburgh, this beautifully constructed and paced novel illuminates an almost forgotten episode in Scottish history......" Sir John Wedderburn, first son of the executed Sir John, (lifeguard of Bonny Prince Charlie at Culloden), was considered one of the more 'lenient' members of the Jamaican plantocracy. His younger brother Dr. James was not so well disposed to his slaves, as his illegitimate son Robert Wedderburn describes in his autobiographical account "The Horrors of Slavery". Two excellent reads... "James Knight" £10.99, by James Robertson is published by Fourth Estate (Harper Collins) ISBN: 0-00-715024-5 http://www.fireandwater.com/Books/default.asp?id=25996 "The Horrors of Slavery" by Robert Wedderburn, Markus Wiener Publishers. ISBN 1-55876-050-4 and ISBN 1-55876-051-2. (£10 from Amazon) Iain McCalman, Australian National University, the author of Radical Underworld Prophets, Revolutionaries and Pornographers in London, 1795-1840, edited and introduces the texts. (Robert Wedderburn) "This colourful, disreputable character is important to the African-American tradition. He became a leading proponent not only of abolition, but of what would be termed today a black theology of liberation, and a major figure in England's republican underground of the Georgian and Regency periods. He was at once a witness and victim of West Indian slavery. His autobiography is a vivid indictment of an execrable system; its accounts burn themselves into the reader's mind like the sting of the slaver's whip." -Publishers Weekly Peter The Wedderburn Pages : www.wedderburn.ws - including the G.H.O.S.T. glossary : Genealogy: Help with Old Scottish Terms

Dear Listers, Recent information from the Montserrat National Trust, regarding Montserrat records, reveals that the only records that have been destroyed are the ones that were lost in the Courthouse fire in 1972. Quite a numbers of records were destroyed such as birth records, marriage licenses and death records. No records to their knowledge were lost in the Volcano. The Courthouse and the Public Library managed to retrieve all of their records and documents before any real damage was done and so did the Trust. I have not as yet heard from the Courthouse or the Public Library but will let the List know when I do. Alannah

Does anyone know when the earliest Marriage Records in Grenada were recorded? Thanks, Lenora

Good morning, Joyce The Lyell surname has intrigued us as well but to no avail. We have much of the family back to 1700 and there are no Lyell ancesters. There are some Lyalls and I have conjectured that this may be a mispelling. The only two instances are this John Lyell (b. Scotland 1856) and his brother named a son John Lyell (b. Liverpool 1885). Regards, John -- -- John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa

Hello John I read your mail on this subject with great interest because the name LYELL is one that crops up in my tree as follows; John Ronaldson Lyell b 1845 was the son-in-law of C.W.Williams who owned two plantations in Jamaica. John was a solicitor and worked at Thames Magistrates Court. John had a son named James Patrick Ronaldson LYELL who was also a solicitor. He handled the affairs of Harriet WILLIAMS who was the beneficiary of C.W.Williams estate. John and son James lived in Hampstead London until John died Hampstead 1911. James then married, he died Oxford 1948. Regards Terry -----Original Message----- From: John Middleton [mailto:jmcpa@planetkc.com] Sent: 26 April 2003 03:46 To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: John Lyell Middleton Good evening, Thanks to Richard and Guy for their help. I am *very* unfamiliar with Jamaican research so it may take me a while to catch on. I will need some time to properly frame some relavant questions. I have been unable to locate John Lyell Middleton in the 1901 Census in England. That leads me to believe that he was out of the England then. Is there a 1901 census for Jamaica? Regards, John -- -- John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked

Hi John, Here is some information from "Monumental Inscriptions of Jamaica" by Philip Wright: JAMES ROBERT STEWART, son of James Stewart of Shaw Park, Ocho Rios, born 21 Nov. 1851, died 2 March 1895. Placed by his sister Wilhelmina Ann Middleton and his brother-in-law John Lyell Middleton. WILLIAM NORCOTT LAW STEWART, died at Shaw Park, Ocho Rios, Jamaica, 23 August 1877, aged 30. JAMES STEWART, formerly of the 22nd Regiment, and sometimes Member of the House of Assembly, Jamaica, son of James Law Stewart; born at Bath, England, 26 May 1814, died at Shaw Park, Ocho Rios, 1 April 1892. MIDDLETON, BOSWELL, Esq., of the Parish of St. Catherine, late Advocate General of this island, died at Spanish Town during the great cholera epidemic, 16 May 1854. Buried at the Spanish Town Parish Cemetery. I hope this is of help. Joyce Falink

Hello everyone! I promised to let the List know when I have obtained information regarding Montserrat records. Apparently there are indeed certain records in Montserrat to this date. I have been in touch with the Montserrat National Trust and received the following reply: 'The only information we have in our resource library as far as families are concerned is records the plantation owners kept of the number of slaves they had, birth recordings, marriage recordings, and death recordings, how many were young, old, male or female. We don't have information on everyone who may have lived in Montserrat. There are some original logs of plantation owners and some of it is material that was probably researched by someone like yourself and copies were left with the Trust. I am not even sure how we received most of the information we have. You are free to come and browse through any information that might be helpful to you.' I have also written to the Archivist at the Public Library in Montserrat whose email address I received from Dr. Blair of Antigua. And I have also written to the Court House. I will let the List know what information they might send. I am hoping to find someone who will be able to visit Montserrat and will do lookups and I would certainly pay them for such services. If anyone is interested in joining me in seeking information then please let me know. I will be back! Regards, Alannah Austin, Texas

Good evening, Thanks to Richard and Guy for their help. I am *very* unfamiliar with Jamaican research so it may take me a while to catch on. I will need some time to properly frame some relavant questions. I have been unable to locate John Lyell Middleton in the 1901 Census in England. That leads me to believe that he was out of the England then. Is there a 1901 census for Jamaica? Regards, John -- -- John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa

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To add to Richard's message - colonial civil service pensions were paid for by the individual governments where he worked - and pensioners are listed in the Blue Books. If someone worked in many colonies during their career it would have been impractical to receive money individually from each colony. I haven't followed this up but the Pay Master General's department was responsible for paying departmental pensions, not the Treasury, and there are ledgers for the Colonial Office and Board of Education in PMG 27 or PMG 28 in The National Archives (PRO). If I get round to checking these I'll post a message. Guy Grannum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:44 AM Subject: Re: Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica > Hi John, > > You need have no doubt as to whether your G-Uncle was in Jamaica as that is > what it says on his death cerificate. Have you searched the web for the > terms Middleton & Jamaica? I have found a website with the 1840 Jamaica > Alamanac. There are Middletons there with land ownership and parish details. > I also came across another Middleton as a founder of one of the Colleges. > There might be some relationship there even if he was born in the UK. The > Almanac points to one source of information, so you will need to formulate > your request to the group in terms of Almanacs and Directories of Jamaica > for the period. That is if any-one has copies or access to them. > > As it is stated that he was Inspector of Government Schools (and you think > most likely between 1881 and 1907), he is sure to be mentioned in one of > those Almanacs or Directories. On this basis also, he would be mentioned in > the Civil List or Civil Service Establishment employees of the Government of > Colony Jamaica for the period. There would be annual repetition of lists of > employees and their posts. These were usually Gazetted, so you would be > looking for some periodical of Jamaica with Gazette in the title. The > Government Gazettes were usually called Royal gazettes. If as Inspector he > would make some pronouncement or decree that would also be gazetted and his > title and name appear under the notice. > > But since you are in Kansas .. > > You might also search the PRO using his full name. If he retired from the > Service he would have received a pension. He would also receive that pension > in the UK from the British Colonial Government of Jamaica. Such incoming > funds would be noticed or approved by the Department of Treasury in the UK. > So chances are that you might find some reference to him in the PRO records > of the department of Treasury. > > There is also the A2A which links local archives (municipal, and university) > and record offices (of counties). You might also want to search the A2A > using his name. There might be a mention of a Will or papers relating to > him. Who knows there may even be an unpublished or published memoir that > might turn up. > > I hope this helps. > > Richard Allicock > Toronto, Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Middleton" <jmcpa@planetkc.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:27 PM > Subject: Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica > > > > Good evening, > > > > I am a new subscriber. I recently received a copy of my grand uncle's > > death certificate. His name was John Lyell Middleton and he died in 1936 > > in London. His death registration shows his occupation as "former > > Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica". I have a good track of his > > whereabouts from his birth in 1859 to the 1881 census (Liverpool) and > > from 1907 to his death (London). If he was in Jamaica, it had to be > > between 1881 and 1907. It also appears that during that time he acquired > > considerable wealth, possibly by marriage. > > > > Are there any records available that might help me confirm that he was > > in Jamaica during that time frame? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Middleton > > > > -- > > -- > > John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 > > Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, > 1759-1900; > > Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 > > Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin > boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

John If you can get hold of a copy of my guide (Tracing Your West Indian Ancestors) I describe the colonial civil service in some detail with examples of documents. The first place to start is the colonial Blue Books of statistics for Jamaica (TNA: Public Record Office series CO 142) - these annual returns as well as giving general statistics on the state of the country include details of civil servants (local and colonial) - they are arranged by department and give date of appointment, by whom, salary and date first appointed to the colonial government. It is important to recognise the difference between colonial civil servant and local civil servant - if he was appointed by the local department or governor then any surviving papers will be in Jamaica; if he was appointed by the governor or by the Colonial Office, the Board of Education or higher then there may be papers in The National Archives (Public Record Office) - such papers may include application forms and correspondence (most will be in CO 137 or ED series for the Board of Education). Another series to check is the colonial Government Gazettes for Jamaica (series CO 141) which often include details of appointments, transfers, promotions, leave etc for both colonial and local civil servants. All of these series are available at The National Archives (PRO) in the UK. The government gazettes and Blue Books will also be in the Jamaican archives; they were published so may be available in other archives or national libraries. The annual printed Colonial Office List shows colonial civil servants and most senior local civil servants - at the end of each volume there are potted biographies of senior colonial civil servants. Hope that this helps. Guy Grannum ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Middleton" <jmcpa@planetkc.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:27 AM Subject: Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica > Good evening, > > I am a new subscriber. I recently received a copy of my grand uncle's > death certificate. His name was John Lyell Middleton and he died in 1936 > in London. His death registration shows his occupation as "former > Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica". I have a good track of his > whereabouts from his birth in 1859 to the 1881 census (Liverpool) and > from 1907 to his death (London). If he was in Jamaica, it had to be > between 1881 and 1907. It also appears that during that time he acquired > considerable wealth, possibly by marriage. > > Are there any records available that might help me confirm that he was > in Jamaica during that time frame? > > Regards, > > John Middleton > > -- > -- > John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 > Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; > Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 > Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

Hi John, You need have no doubt as to whether your G-Uncle was in Jamaica as that is what it says on his death cerificate. Have you searched the web for the terms Middleton & Jamaica? I have found a website with the 1840 Jamaica Alamanac. There are Middletons there with land ownership and parish details. I also came across another Middleton as a founder of one of the Colleges. There might be some relationship there even if he was born in the UK. The Almanac points to one source of information, so you will need to formulate your request to the group in terms of Almanacs and Directories of Jamaica for the period. That is if any-one has copies or access to them. As it is stated that he was Inspector of Government Schools (and you think most likely between 1881 and 1907), he is sure to be mentioned in one of those Almanacs or Directories. On this basis also, he would be mentioned in the Civil List or Civil Service Establishment employees of the Government of Colony Jamaica for the period. There would be annual repetition of lists of employees and their posts. These were usually Gazetted, so you would be looking for some periodical of Jamaica with Gazette in the title. The Government Gazettes were usually called Royal gazettes. If as Inspector he would make some pronouncement or decree that would also be gazetted and his title and name appear under the notice. But since you are in Kansas .. You might also search the PRO using his full name. If he retired from the Service he would have received a pension. He would also receive that pension in the UK from the British Colonial Government of Jamaica. Such incoming funds would be noticed or approved by the Department of Treasury in the UK. So chances are that you might find some reference to him in the PRO records of the department of Treasury. There is also the A2A which links local archives (municipal, and university) and record offices (of counties). You might also want to search the A2A using his name. There might be a mention of a Will or papers relating to him. Who knows there may even be an unpublished or published memoir that might turn up. I hope this helps. Richard Allicock Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Middleton" <jmcpa@planetkc.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica > Good evening, > > I am a new subscriber. I recently received a copy of my grand uncle's > death certificate. His name was John Lyell Middleton and he died in 1936 > in London. His death registration shows his occupation as "former > Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica". I have a good track of his > whereabouts from his birth in 1859 to the 1881 census (Liverpool) and > from 1907 to his death (London). If he was in Jamaica, it had to be > between 1881 and 1907. It also appears that during that time he acquired > considerable wealth, possibly by marriage. > > Are there any records available that might help me confirm that he was > in Jamaica during that time frame? > > Regards, > > John Middleton > > -- > -- > John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 > Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; > Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 > Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

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Like to forward this from a Caribbean lit group - Peepal Tree Press http://www.peepaltreepress.com/home.asp which publishes "Caribbean, Black British and some South Asian titles. ------------ a wealth of information about books, authors and Caribbean writing. " has begun a website. The titles are mostly "literary" as opposed to "historical" , but today's literature is how our descendants will get some of their info about us! I did notice several titles on Indo-Guyanese indenture. Lisa J

Hi Guy, Thanks again. I have also asked the same queston of the St. Kitts Archivist. I will put the same question to the archivist in Antigua. I guess I also have to take a second look at your guide as well as Oliver's History of Antigua. Best regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Grannum" <guy@gcgrannum.freeserve.co.uk> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:57 AM Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps/Censuses 1700-1820 > Richard > > I have only come across a few 'censuses' for St Kitts and Antigua for the > period you are interested in. I put censuses in inverted commas because most > are headcounts and those with names tend to only list the head of household > and the numbers of women, children, servants and slaves in the household. > > Here are the few 'nominal' censuses I have found - there may be more (these > are listed in my guide): > Antigua > 1753 - TNA: PRO CO 152/27, fos 271-303 (printed in Oliver's 'History of > Antigua', vol 1pcix) > > St Kitts > 1707 - TNA: PRO CO 152/7, fo 47 - includes age of head of household (printed > in 'Caribbeana' vol 3, p132 > 1707/8 - TNA: PRO CO 152/6, no 47 (enclosures iv and v) > 1711 - TNA: PRO CO 152/9, fos 305-315 > > The TNA: PRO is the new way of citing Public Record Office references since > it became The National Archives. > > It is possible that there may be other nominal censuses among the Colonial > Office records at The National Archives and in the island archives. > > Guy Grannum > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:03 AM > Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps/Censuses 1700-1820 > > > > Hi Guy, > > > > Thanks very much for the PRO refs. to the Maps. > > > > I also asked about any St. Kitts Censuses from 1700-1820. > > > > Any iformation to offer on this. Thanks. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Guy Grannum" <guy@gcgrannum.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:04 PM > > Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > Copies of these maps are held by The National Archives (Public Record > > > Office) under the following references: > > > > > > Bermuda by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > > > CO 700/Bermuda6 > > > > > > St Kitts by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > > > CO 700/CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS4 - taken from the PRO catalogue > > > > > > St Kitts by Samuel Baker, 1753 > > > CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS5 - again taken from the PRO catalogue > > > > > > It is worth checking the PRO catalogue at http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk > and > > > 'Maps and Plans in the Public Record Office. Vol 2 America and West > > Indies' > > > for early manuscript and published maps of the British American > colonies - > > > the Colonial Office and War Office created quite detailed map > collections > > > which have been transferred to The National Archives (PRO). > > > > > > Hope that this helps. > > > > > > Guy Grannum > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > > > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:49 AM > > > Subject: St. Kitts Maps > > > > > > > > > > Does any-one have a copy of these maps? Please let me know. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) A new and accurate map of Bermudas or Sommer's Islands: taken from > > an > > > actual survey; wherein the errors of former charts are corrected; An > > > accurate map of the Island of St. Christopher, vulgarly called St. > Kitts. > > > Containing all the towns, parishes and forts etc. > > > > > > > > Author: Emanuel Bowen. > > > > > > > > Published London 1750. > > > > > > > > (2) A new and exact map of St. Kitts in America: according to an > actual > > > and accurate survey made in the year 1753. Describing the several > > parishes, > > > wit their respective limits, contents, & churches; also the high ways, > the > > > situation of every gentleman's plantation, mills, and houses; with > rivers, > > > and guts. Likewise the bays, roads, rocks, shoals and soundings that > > > surround the whole. > > > > > > > > Authors: Samuel Baker, J. Mynde, Carington Bowles. Robert Wilkinson. > > > > > > > > Published London 1753 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > > > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > > What is a Mailing List? > > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin > boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > >

Good evening, I am a new subscriber. I recently received a copy of my grand uncle's death certificate. His name was John Lyell Middleton and he died in 1936 in London. His death registration shows his occupation as "former Government Inspector of Schools Jamaica". I have a good track of his whereabouts from his birth in 1859 to the 1881 census (Liverpool) and from 1907 to his death (London). If he was in Jamaica, it had to be between 1881 and 1907. It also appears that during that time he acquired considerable wealth, possibly by marriage. Are there any records available that might help me confirm that he was in Jamaica during that time frame? Regards, John Middleton -- -- John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas, TVFHS #4418 Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1700-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa

Richard I have only come across a few 'censuses' for St Kitts and Antigua for the period you are interested in. I put censuses in inverted commas because most are headcounts and those with names tend to only list the head of household and the numbers of women, children, servants and slaves in the household. Here are the few 'nominal' censuses I have found - there may be more (these are listed in my guide): Antigua 1753 - TNA: PRO CO 152/27, fos 271-303 (printed in Oliver's 'History of Antigua', vol 1pcix) St Kitts 1707 - TNA: PRO CO 152/7, fo 47 - includes age of head of household (printed in 'Caribbeana' vol 3, p132 1707/8 - TNA: PRO CO 152/6, no 47 (enclosures iv and v) 1711 - TNA: PRO CO 152/9, fos 305-315 The TNA: PRO is the new way of citing Public Record Office references since it became The National Archives. It is possible that there may be other nominal censuses among the Colonial Office records at The National Archives and in the island archives. Guy Grannum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:03 AM Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps/Censuses 1700-1820 > Hi Guy, > > Thanks very much for the PRO refs. to the Maps. > > I also asked about any St. Kitts Censuses from 1700-1820. > > Any iformation to offer on this. Thanks. > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy Grannum" <guy@gcgrannum.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps > > > > Richard > > > > Copies of these maps are held by The National Archives (Public Record > > Office) under the following references: > > > > Bermuda by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > > CO 700/Bermuda6 > > > > St Kitts by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > > CO 700/CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS4 - taken from the PRO catalogue > > > > St Kitts by Samuel Baker, 1753 > > CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS5 - again taken from the PRO catalogue > > > > It is worth checking the PRO catalogue at http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk and > > 'Maps and Plans in the Public Record Office. Vol 2 America and West > Indies' > > for early manuscript and published maps of the British American colonies - > > the Colonial Office and War Office created quite detailed map collections > > which have been transferred to The National Archives (PRO). > > > > Hope that this helps. > > > > Guy Grannum > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:49 AM > > Subject: St. Kitts Maps > > > > > > > Does any-one have a copy of these maps? Please let me know. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > (1) A new and accurate map of Bermudas or Sommer's Islands: taken from > an > > actual survey; wherein the errors of former charts are corrected; An > > accurate map of the Island of St. Christopher, vulgarly called St. Kitts. > > Containing all the towns, parishes and forts etc. > > > > > > Author: Emanuel Bowen. > > > > > > Published London 1750. > > > > > > (2) A new and exact map of St. Kitts in America: according to an actual > > and accurate survey made in the year 1753. Describing the several > parishes, > > wit their respective limits, contents, & churches; also the high ways, the > > situation of every gentleman's plantation, mills, and houses; with rivers, > > and guts. Likewise the bays, roads, rocks, shoals and soundings that > > surround the whole. > > > > > > Authors: Samuel Baker, J. Mynde, Carington Bowles. Robert Wilkinson. > > > > > > Published London 1753 > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > What is a Mailing List? > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

Doea anyone have these 'census'? I am interesting in these persons who lived in St Kitts pre 1800 BOWDEN or BODDEN PANTON WATLER or WALTERS thanks Rhona Guy Grannum wrote: > Richard > > I have only come across a few 'censuses' for St Kitts and Antigua for the > period you are interested in. I put censuses in inverted commas because most > are headcounts and those with names tend to only list the head of household > and the numbers of women, children, servants and slaves in the household. > > Here are the few 'nominal' censuses I have found - there may be more (these > are listed in my guide): > Antigua > 1753 - TNA: PRO CO 152/27, fos 271-303 (printed in Oliver's 'History of > Antigua', vol 1pcix) > > St Kitts > 1707 - TNA: PRO CO 152/7, fo 47 - includes age of head of household (printed > in 'Caribbeana' vol 3, p132 > 1707/8 - TNA: PRO CO 152/6, no 47 (enclosures iv and v) > 1711 - TNA: PRO CO 152/9, fos 305-315 > > The TNA: PRO is the new way of citing Public Record Office references since > it became The National Archives. > > It is possible that there may be other nominal censuses among the Colonial > Office records at The National Archives and in the island archives. > > Guy Grannum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:03 AM > Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps/Censuses 1700-1820 > > > Hi Guy, > > > > Thanks very much for the PRO refs. to the Maps. > > > > I also asked about any St. Kitts Censuses from 1700-1820. > > > > Any iformation to offer on this. Thanks. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Guy Grannum" <guy@gcgrannum.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:04 PM > > Subject: Re: St. Kitts Maps > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > Copies of these maps are held by The National Archives (Public Record > > > Office) under the following references: > > > > > > Bermuda by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > > > CO 700/Bermuda6 > > > > > > St Kitts by Emanuel Bowen, c1750 > > > CO 700/CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS4 - taken from the PRO catalogue > > > > > > St Kitts by Samuel Baker, 1753 > > > CO 700/ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS5 - again taken from the PRO catalogue > > > > > > It is worth checking the PRO catalogue at http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk > and > > > 'Maps and Plans in the Public Record Office. Vol 2 America and West > > Indies' > > > for early manuscript and published maps of the British American > colonies - > > > the Colonial Office and War Office created quite detailed map > collections > > > which have been transferred to The National Archives (PRO). > > > > > > Hope that this helps. > > > > > > Guy Grannum > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > > > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:49 AM > > > Subject: St. Kitts Maps > > > > > > > > > > Does any-one have a copy of these maps? Please let me know. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) A new and accurate map of Bermudas or Sommer's Islands: taken from > > an > > > actual survey; wherein the errors of former charts are corrected; An > > > accurate map of the Island of St. Christopher, vulgarly called St. > Kitts. > > > Containing all the towns, parishes and forts etc. > > > > > > > > Author: Emanuel Bowen. > > > > > > > > Published London 1750. > > > > > > > > (2) A new and exact map of St. Kitts in America: according to an > actual > > > and accurate survey made in the year 1753. Describing the several > > parishes, > > > wit their respective limits, contents, & churches; also the high ways, > the > > > situation of every gentleman's plantation, mills, and houses; with > rivers, > > > and guts. Likewise the bays, roads, rocks, shoals and soundings that > > > surround the whole. > > > > > > > > Authors: Samuel Baker, J. Mynde, Carington Bowles. Robert Wilkinson. > > > > > > > > Published London 1753 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > > > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > > What is a Mailing List? > > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin > boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked

Tony, Yes please! If you see a headstone for Robert Baylis Lieut. 2nd West India Regiment, who died in Jamaica in 1857?? and one would assume he is buried there. Dont know his wife or childrens names. Any information would be greatly appreciated as I live in Australia. Thanks. Christine Fensbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony figueroa" <tfiggytoo@yahoo.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: cemetery lookup > I am visiting ceneteries in Trenton, Belleville, Kingston and Brockville and area in Ontario for someone.If anyone needs anything from these areas let me know within a couple days. > > Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > >