Hello Kevin: many thanks indeed for that wonderful transcription of your ancestor's St. Vincent Diary. My own late father was a Methodist minister, whose first posting overseas after the seminary, was St. Vincent, and we arrived there when I was three, just abut 125 years after your great great grandfather! I am finding it a fascinating read, since as a child of the Manse myself, all the places he names bring back wonderful childhood memories. Thank you so much for sharing this delightful journal with us. Ernest M. Wiltshire Friends of the Barbados Archives 38 Inglewood Place, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1Y 4C7

Dear Ann, Thank you for the help I guess what I don't understand is if I go to the website familysearch and look for the name I am searching for and nothing comes up has it searched through theses films we are discussing as well or does the LDS not have everything since they have such an immense collection on computer? Would these films contain separate information? Also if you do find it online if you order the microfilm does it contain more information than what is online or is the same information. I had found one relative listed having a child we did not know about and I saved the film number but now when I go to the same reference on familysearch they have deleted the film number. I am sorry for all the questions but I think because of my lack of knowledge on this matter I am probably overlooking a vital resource. Thank you and best wishes, Karen Lombard ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Whiting To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Re: name question Dear Jeff, If you have access to a LDS/Family History Library, go to www.candoo.com, under Microfilms, you will see St. Lucia, I believe in the Leeward Islands, it should have all the film numbers for what the LDS/FHL has available for St. Lucia. Then go to the library, armed with your film numbers, (it cost about $3.75 to rent it, if it is not in your location), and you can view it at your libraty for a month. Hope this helps. Ann >From: "Jeff Lombard" <thelombards@attbi.com> >Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: name question >Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:30:12 -0400 > >First I want to thank everyone for their responses. >Bonjour Philippe, > >Please excuse my ignorance but I really have not worked with LDS microfilms >at all. What is Le Mouillage is a village? Can I ask what you are looking >at that lets you know there are a lot of records on Renault in St Lucia. >When we went it was hard to gather information and I finally had the >archives do a search for me looking for my Bonnets and Jennings clan and >the baptismal certificate for a Marie Therese Bonnet has the mother as >Marianne Sophie Parigau married to Felix Bonnet, also mentioned Bernard >Parigau, Pierre Parigau married to Ambroise Sophie Renault grandmother and >grandfather to Pierre Felix Bonnet, Felix Bonnet son of Felix Bonnet and >Dame Assee Parigau marries Elizabeth Clemence Noel, Charles Denis Bonnet >Cadet (not sure what the Cadet means) godfather Charles Parigau and >godmother Laurence Euphrasie Parigau listed as great aunt and uncle. Any >ideas and help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the >time to look this over. > >Best wishes, >Karen Lombard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RossignolP > To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:02 AM > Subject: Re: name question > > > Dans l'article <002001c30e4e$c8064d40$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, > thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > > > On a few of the birth certificates I received from St Lucia a new >family > >name had appeared Parigau from Martinique does this name mean anything >to > >anyone or sound familiar? It is the only time I have entered a general > >search on the computer through Google and come up with basically no >mentions > >of this last name except my posts. Any ideas? > > > > Bonjour > I have : > Laurence Euphrosine PARIGAU, born 1790, married Pierre Joseph BENECH >(dead 16 > feb. 1866 St Pierre, Le Mouillage) > In the french records of St Lucia for some death appear PARIGAU(D) père > (father) négociant (merchant) and PARIGAU(D) fils (son) but without >first > names. > I think you will find something in the LDS' microfilms at St Pierre, Le > Mouillage. > Could you give me the informations recorded on the birth certificate ? > > About RENAULT : a lot of records in St Lucia. > > Regards > Philippe Rossignol > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES What is a Mailing List? http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html

Dear Nevilla, Was Jennings the name of the estate? Do you know their reason for naming it this way? Best wishes, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: Nevilla E. Ottley To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: OTTLEY in BARBUDA I have been searching for information on the Ottley family in the island of Barbuda. Tim Anderson sent me the following statements: "I have 2 copies of a book that is essentially a catalog of letters -- The Codrington Correspondence. This branch of Codringtons had some estates in Antigua -- notably Betty's Hope-- and essentially all of Barbuda (I thought this was an overstatement, but it is not). Over 500 documents are cataloged and summarized from the 1740s to the 1840s. I have been more interested in the period after manumission (where my personal collection of Antigua correspondence picks up). The early letters certainly mention buying slaves as well as consideration of freeing slaves (in the 1700s in Barbuda). The main concern of the 18th C letters were sea battles in the West Indies with France and Spain. "Two letters in 1814-15 from a slave John Edwards seeking to buy his freedom in the first letter and sending thanks in the second -- the second letter endorsed by "CBC" [Christopher Bethell Codrington] 'My servant when I am in Antigua whom I manumitted' "I found an Ottley letter in the book 1809 George W. Ottley of Parham House gives his advice on the selling of Codrington estates, Bolans and Jennings." The note was signed, "Tim in Gaithersburg" Does anyone have any further information on the activities of George W. Ottley and Christopher Bethell Codrington in the island of Barbuda or Antigua? Nevilla E. Ottley ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/

No problem, The following is from the Guadaloupe page.:- Ste-Lucie (Saint Lucia): recensements 1730 - 1789 1098215 What it means is the census records for St. Lucia for the years 1730-1789 are on film # 1098215 of the Latin American film collection. Here's some background, the Mormans have filmed/microfilmed original documents all over the world, of census, church, civil records, etc, pertaining to genealogy. That information is housed in Salt Lake, Utah. At any Family History Libraries, you can rent a copy of any of their film for viewing at their sites, (they have viewers). You can view the original document on film. So, if your relative was in St. Lucia at that time, and was counted in the census, then you will find them, and any other information that was gathered at that time, re their census. I also gave you another link to St. Lucia, but I had forgotten that It was a French possession at one time. Let me know if this helps. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dear Jim, Thanks for your comments. In order to make the transcription more useful, I have added a query facility to the home page that will allow you to search for any specific text that interests you. Best wishes, Kevin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James W Cropper" <jameswcropper@sympatico.ca> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Diary of a St Vincent Missionary > Hi Kevin, > > Thank you for posting your transcription of the diary of your great, great > grandfather, the Rev. William FIDLER. It was a lot of work but must have > been a labour of love studying and transcribing your ancestor's writings. > There are many religious reflections, however, it provides an excellent > description of the life and times in St. Vincent in the 1820's. > > It will take many visits to the site to thoroughly absorb the all > information and identify the names and places. Your mention of J. D. > QUESTEL is of interest. This must be James Dolbert QUESTEL, Esquire (ca > 1772 - 19 Apr 1828) - a Planter and owner of Mount Alexander Estate 300 > acres in St David's Parish - met/married Mary Letise OTTLEY. They had seven > children of which two tie in to my Family. > > Jim C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Laurence" <kml@kevinlaurence.net> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:14 PM > Subject: Diary of a St Vincent Missionary > > > > Dear List, > > > > Last autumn I discovered the diary of my great, great, great grandfather, > the Rev. William Fidler, in the archives of the School of Oriental and > African Studies (SOAS) at the University of London. > > > > The diary, which covers the period 1825-1827, describes his voyage from > Bristol to St Vincent accompanied by his wife Anna and other Methodist > missionaries, and contains detailed descriptions of events and places during > his first two years in the West Indies. > > > > He mentions several estates on St Vincent (Palmiste Park, Peruvian Vale, > Cane Grove Estate, Spring Estate, Mount Wynne), and the owners or managers > (Robert Gordon, Col. Edward Jackson, J. D. Questel). > > > > I have recently transcribed the text, and published it on the web. Anyone > interested in this period of St Vincent's history might find the diary > interesting. It can be viewed at the following address: > > > > http://www.kevinlaurence.net/genealogy/fidlerdiary/index.html > > > > Kevin Laurence > > London. > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin > boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html

Hi, fellow searchers, Does anyone happen to have any experience searching the archives of the university in Edinburgh or can put me in contact with anyone who does? I would like to look for my g-g-g grandfather, Charles Woods, b. abt. 1750, to see if he received his education and/or medical degree from there. (He died in 1810 in St. Croix). The U. library has a website, but the cost of just looking to see if he were a student or not seems really steep. Anyone have friends in Edinburgh? Please contact me directly at lwa101@bellsouth.net. Thanks in advance. Best, Laura Nothin' could be finah than to be in Carolina in the springtime!

The following is part of a reply from the PRO on the East Indians to the West Indies The biographical information relating to indenture labourers can be found in the Colonial Office: West Indies original correspondence in record series reference of the National Archives (TNA) PRO CO 318. It contains specific sections devoted to Indian labour and migration to the West Indies for the period 1843 to 1873; these are continued in (TNA): PRO CO 323 and later in the Immigration Department records (TNA): PRO CO 571 for the period 1913-1920. From the 1870's the records of the Land Board and Emigration Department (TNA): PRO CO 384-CO 386 with registers in (TNA): PRO CO 428) are concerned with emigration to the West Indies and include information on Indian migrant labour. The (TNA): PRO CO 384 and (TNA): PRO CO 385 includes surgeon's reports sometimes give details of the births and deaths of Indians on the ships. Only first names of the Indian labourers have been noted in these records. These are not complete. There is no name index to these records, therefore searching for information on individuals are extremely difficult. Emigration agents were appointed in India to recruit labourers. The indenture labourers had to fill the contract of service forms. It is possible that the records created by these agents if they had survived may be found in the State Archives of India. In India, the ports of Calcutta, Bombay, and Madras were the main platforms used to transport the labourers to colonies. Please contact the appropriate State Archives in India if you know, the origin of their place from which they left to St Lusia. The State archives addresses are as follows. Government of West Bengal State Archives 6, Bhowani Dutta Lane Kolkatta (Calcutta)- 700 007 India Tamil Nadu State Archives 28/29, Gandhi-Irwin Road Egmore Chennai - 600 008 Tamil Nadu India Telephone +91 (0)44 825 43 38 Fax +91 (0)44 825 60 47 http://www.tanap.net/archives/archives/tamil.htm Mumbai Archives, Department of Archives, Government of Maharashtra, 156,Elphinstone College Building, M.G. Road, Fort Mumbai - 400032. India. Phone No: 0091-22-2843971, 0091-22-2844268 Fax no: 0091-22-2844268 Because of our very limited resources of staff and time, and the nature of the material in question, we are unable to undertake research for you. If you are able to visit the office in person, we are happy to advise you further on this subject There is much information about the records and the services we provide available on our web site at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk If you are unable visit the office, you may care to hire an Independent Researcher to do the work on your behalf. A list of researchers who undertake family history research can be printed from our website. To do this, please follow the link to http://www.pro.gov.uk/research/irlist/default.htm I trust this information will be of assistance to you Yours sincerely Abi Husainy (Ms) Research and Editorial Services Department

The first issue of my new quarterly publication 'Caribbean Roots' is now available. Aimed primarily at the researcher living in the U.K., but relevant to anyone interested in West Indian ancestry, the sixteen page magazine costs £10 a year (£15 Overseas) inclusive of postage. If you require more details or want to subscribe, please email me at john.prior3@ntlworld.com Articles in the current issue include: Researching African-Caribbean Family History Six Simple Steps for Starters Ancestors: Tracing Family History - The Crookses of Jamaica Sunbury - The History of a Plantation House A View of Antigua, 1775 - Impressions of the White Population. John Prior john.prior3@ntlworld.com

First I want to thank everyone for their responses. Bonjour Philippe, Please excuse my ignorance but I really have not worked with LDS microfilms at all. What is Le Mouillage is a village? Can I ask what you are looking at that lets you know there are a lot of records on Renault in St Lucia. When we went it was hard to gather information and I finally had the archives do a search for me looking for my Bonnets and Jennings clan and the baptismal certificate for a Marie Therese Bonnet has the mother as Marianne Sophie Parigau married to Felix Bonnet, also mentioned Bernard Parigau, Pierre Parigau married to Ambroise Sophie Renault grandmother and grandfather to Pierre Felix Bonnet, Felix Bonnet son of Felix Bonnet and Dame Assee Parigau marries Elizabeth Clemence Noel, Charles Denis Bonnet Cadet (not sure what the Cadet means) godfather Charles Parigau and godmother Laurence Euphrasie Parigau listed as great aunt and uncle. Any ideas and help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the time to look this over. Best wishes, Karen Lombard ----- Original Message ----- From: RossignolP To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:02 AM Subject: Re: name question Dans l'article <002001c30e4e$c8064d40$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > On a few of the birth certificates I received from St Lucia a new family >name had appeared Parigau from Martinique does this name mean anything to >anyone or sound familiar? It is the only time I have entered a general >search on the computer through Google and come up with basically no mentions >of this last name except my posts. Any ideas? > Bonjour I have : Laurence Euphrosine PARIGAU, born 1790, married Pierre Joseph BENECH (dead 16 feb. 1866 St Pierre, Le Mouillage) In the french records of St Lucia for some death appear PARIGAU(D) père (father) négociant (merchant) and PARIGAU(D) fils (son) but without first names. I think you will find something in the LDS' microfilms at St Pierre, Le Mouillage. Could you give me the informations recorded on the birth certificate ? About RENAULT : a lot of records in St Lucia. Regards Philippe Rossignol ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/

Jeff, Here is a better link, right to St. Lucia: http://www.candoo.com/genresources/stknevang.htm Ann >From: "Jeff Lombard" <thelombards@attbi.com> >Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: name question >Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:30:12 -0400 > >First I want to thank everyone for their responses. >Bonjour Philippe, > >Please excuse my ignorance but I really have not worked with LDS microfilms >at all. What is Le Mouillage is a village? Can I ask what you are looking >at that lets you know there are a lot of records on Renault in St Lucia. >When we went it was hard to gather information and I finally had the >archives do a search for me looking for my Bonnets and Jennings clan and >the baptismal certificate for a Marie Therese Bonnet has the mother as >Marianne Sophie Parigau married to Felix Bonnet, also mentioned Bernard >Parigau, Pierre Parigau married to Ambroise Sophie Renault grandmother and >grandfather to Pierre Felix Bonnet, Felix Bonnet son of Felix Bonnet and >Dame Assee Parigau marries Elizabeth Clemence Noel, Charles Denis Bonnet >Cadet (not sure what the Cadet means) godfather Charles Parigau and >godmother Laurence Euphrasie Parigau listed as great aunt and uncle. Any >ideas and help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the >time to look this over. > >Best wishes, >Karen Lombard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RossignolP > To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:02 AM > Subject: Re: name question > > > Dans l'article <002001c30e4e$c8064d40$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, > thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > > > On a few of the birth certificates I received from St Lucia a new >family > >name had appeared Parigau from Martinique does this name mean anything >to > >anyone or sound familiar? It is the only time I have entered a general > >search on the computer through Google and come up with basically no >mentions > >of this last name except my posts. Any ideas? > > > > Bonjour > I have : > Laurence Euphrosine PARIGAU, born 1790, married Pierre Joseph BENECH >(dead 16 > feb. 1866 St Pierre, Le Mouillage) > In the french records of St Lucia for some death appear PARIGAU(D) père > (father) négociant (merchant) and PARIGAU(D) fils (son) but without >first > names. > I think you will find something in the LDS' microfilms at St Pierre, Le > Mouillage. > Could you give me the informations recorded on the birth certificate ? > > About RENAULT : a lot of records in St Lucia. > > Regards > Philippe Rossignol > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dear Jeff, If you have access to a LDS/Family History Library, go to www.candoo.com, under Microfilms, you will see St. Lucia, I believe in the Leeward Islands, it should have all the film numbers for what the LDS/FHL has available for St. Lucia. Then go to the library, armed with your film numbers, (it cost about $3.75 to rent it, if it is not in your location), and you can view it at your libraty for a month. Hope this helps. Ann >From: "Jeff Lombard" <thelombards@attbi.com> >Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: name question >Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:30:12 -0400 > >First I want to thank everyone for their responses. >Bonjour Philippe, > >Please excuse my ignorance but I really have not worked with LDS microfilms >at all. What is Le Mouillage is a village? Can I ask what you are looking >at that lets you know there are a lot of records on Renault in St Lucia. >When we went it was hard to gather information and I finally had the >archives do a search for me looking for my Bonnets and Jennings clan and >the baptismal certificate for a Marie Therese Bonnet has the mother as >Marianne Sophie Parigau married to Felix Bonnet, also mentioned Bernard >Parigau, Pierre Parigau married to Ambroise Sophie Renault grandmother and >grandfather to Pierre Felix Bonnet, Felix Bonnet son of Felix Bonnet and >Dame Assee Parigau marries Elizabeth Clemence Noel, Charles Denis Bonnet >Cadet (not sure what the Cadet means) godfather Charles Parigau and >godmother Laurence Euphrasie Parigau listed as great aunt and uncle. Any >ideas and help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the >time to look this over. > >Best wishes, >Karen Lombard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RossignolP > To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:02 AM > Subject: Re: name question > > > Dans l'article <002001c30e4e$c8064d40$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, > thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > > > On a few of the birth certificates I received from St Lucia a new >family > >name had appeared Parigau from Martinique does this name mean anything >to > >anyone or sound familiar? It is the only time I have entered a general > >search on the computer through Google and come up with basically no >mentions > >of this last name except my posts. Any ideas? > > > > Bonjour > I have : > Laurence Euphrosine PARIGAU, born 1790, married Pierre Joseph BENECH >(dead 16 > feb. 1866 St Pierre, Le Mouillage) > In the french records of St Lucia for some death appear PARIGAU(D) père > (father) négociant (merchant) and PARIGAU(D) fils (son) but without >first > names. > I think you will find something in the LDS' microfilms at St Pierre, Le > Mouillage. > Could you give me the informations recorded on the birth certificate ? > > About RENAULT : a lot of records in St Lucia. > > Regards > Philippe Rossignol > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin >boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I returned from St. Croix this morning, where I found the following concerning East Indians sent to Guadeloupe. From the St. Croix Avis Tue 12 Feb 1867 Guadeloupe - January 14. The Barham [italicized] from India, with 465 immigrants, arrived on the 2nd, at Pionte-a-Pitre. The Commercial [italicized] states that a dysenteric death having occurred a day before the ship arrived, she was placed into quarantine d'observation [italicized], for seven days, as a measure of prudence. The captain of the Glenlora [italicized], which arrived about a month ago with a batch of coolies has been getting into a scrape with the Guadeloupe Authorities. The papers say that, on arrival, both himself and the surgeon of the ship reported that no sickness existed on board, nor had there been any deaths on the passage. But, afterwards, their assertions proved untrue, and they were brought before the Police Magistrate and sentenced to 5 days' imprisionment, and to pay a fine of 60 francs. The Commercial [italicized] remarks on this subject:- "Let us thank heaven, that these fraudulent declarations, made with the view of escaping the ennui [italicized] of a long quarantine, are not permitted. This novel lesson will not be lost. It proves that danger prowls continually around us, and, far from our sleeping at our post, let us redouble our precautions."

Hi Kevin, Thank you for posting your transcription of the diary of your great, great grandfather, the Rev. William FIDLER. It was a lot of work but must have been a labour of love studying and transcribing your ancestor's writings. There are many religious reflections, however, it provides an excellent description of the life and times in St. Vincent in the 1820's. It will take many visits to the site to thoroughly absorb the all information and identify the names and places. Your mention of J. D. QUESTEL is of interest. This must be James Dolbert QUESTEL, Esquire (ca 1772 - 19 Apr 1828) - a Planter and owner of Mount Alexander Estate 300 acres in St David's Parish - met/married Mary Letise OTTLEY. They had seven children of which two tie in to my Family. Jim C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Laurence" <kml@kevinlaurence.net> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: Diary of a St Vincent Missionary > Dear List, > > Last autumn I discovered the diary of my great, great, great grandfather, the Rev. William Fidler, in the archives of the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) at the University of London. > > The diary, which covers the period 1825-1827, describes his voyage from Bristol to St Vincent accompanied by his wife Anna and other Methodist missionaries, and contains detailed descriptions of events and places during his first two years in the West Indies. > > He mentions several estates on St Vincent (Palmiste Park, Peruvian Vale, Cane Grove Estate, Spring Estate, Mount Wynne), and the owners or managers (Robert Gordon, Col. Edward Jackson, J. D. Questel). > > I have recently transcribed the text, and published it on the web. Anyone interested in this period of St Vincent's history might find the diary interesting. It can be viewed at the following address: > > http://www.kevinlaurence.net/genealogy/fidlerdiary/index.html > > Kevin Laurence > London. > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ >

Dans l'article <002001c30e4e$c8064d40$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > On a few of the birth certificates I received from St Lucia a new family >name had appeared Parigau from Martinique does this name mean anything to >anyone or sound familiar? It is the only time I have entered a general >search on the computer through Google and come up with basically no mentions >of this last name except my posts. Any ideas? > Bonjour I have : Laurence Euphrosine PARIGAU, born 1790, married Pierre Joseph BENECH (dead 16 feb. 1866 St Pierre, Le Mouillage) In the french records of St Lucia for some death appear PARIGAU(D) père (father) négociant (merchant) and PARIGAU(D) fils (son) but without first names. I think you will find something in the LDS' microfilms at St Pierre, Le Mouillage. Could you give me the informations recorded on the birth certificate ? About RENAULT : a lot of records in St Lucia. Regards Philippe Rossignol

Here is a link to that information.. http://www.caribbeanconsulting.com/Saba/Will/Appendix5.htm Henry Hassell -----Original Message----- From: MReilly169@aol.com [mailto:MReilly169@aol.com] In the back of one of the editions of Will Johnson's "Saban Lore," there is a list of freed slaves (I thought it dated from 1867 rather than 1863) with family names and numbers in household but not first names. It used to be posted on the Internet and I have it somewhere.

Richard, Thank you for that. 'Ugo was a bad one. Remember all the trees across the roads? And how long were the power lines down? Jason Carpenter, NYC

In the back of one of the editions of Will Johnson's "Saban Lore," there is a list of freed slaves (I thought it dated from 1867 rather than 1863) with family names and numbers in household but not first names. It used to be posted on the Internet and I have it somewhere.

A is for Auto with a dent in its side B is for Bond who can't go for a ride C is for Cruzans stuck without any phones D is for Dengue ill the breaker of bones E is for Engineers that match happy Corps F is for Farelley who plugs other isles to tour G is for Generators that roar on all night H is for Humvees looking like they spoil for fight I is for Insurors without the money to last J is for Jailhouse whose inmates drive past K is for Keystone which provides our cops L is for Looters who raid all of our shops M is for Monument to Cepeda the lineman N is for Neighbors the greedy St. Thomians O is for Overcharges leaving us in shock P is for Pierless so the big boats cant dock Q is for Quick just like the MPs withdrawl R is for Realtors whose market has stalled S is for Salt pouring down out of the sky T is for Trees to which we waved fond good bye U is for 'Ugo smash house leaving us live V is for Videostore choice just...Jason part five W is for Weather brought us what ya know X is for 'Xcellent chance problems to follow Y is for Yachts washed up on our city streets Z is for Zealots who remain praying no repeats As I am talking with West Indians only F for Governor Farrelly and M for monument to a volunteer electrician who died need explaining

An idea about the meaning of the name "Ma Pysan". If it was used in St Vincent, could it be said to be in French creole patois? Would it be pronounced sounding almost like "paysan", which is the French word for peasant, rustic, country-man or country-woman. That may refer to her peasant origin. Jan Bousse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nneka X" <cheryl_nneka@hotmail.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: Fidler Diary, slaves on Saba & the name Pysan > Hi Kevin, > snip > > By the way, does anyone know of Saba slave records? When was slavery > abolished there? My great great grandmother, Present Derrick, was said to > have come to St Vincent via Saba and was known affectionately as "Ma" Pysan. > Does anyone know the origins of this name or if it was a familiar one on > either Saba, Bequia, or St Vincent. Could it have been a place name? She > came to the West Indies from Africa when she was 7 years old, circa > 1820-1840 >

Hello: From Dr. Hartog's "History of Saba" Emancipation on Saba took place on July 1 1863 with the Abolition of Slavery Act of the Netherlands. The preliminaries had already taken place. With out any ceremony Moses Leverock (Administrator or Lt. Gov of Saba) informed the 730 Saban slaves that they were free. The former owners were indemnified with 200 guilders per slave. Henry Hassell -----Original Message----- From: Nneka X [mailto:cheryl_nneka@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:55 AM By the way, does anyone know of Saba slave records? When was slavery abolished there? My great great grandmother, Present Derrick, was said to have come to St Vincent via Saba and was known affectionately as "Ma" Pysan. Does anyone know the origins of this name or if it was a familiar one on either Saba, Bequia, or St Vincent. Could it have been a place name? She came to the West Indies from Africa when she was 7 years old, circa 1820-1840