(resending as my first one did not reach the List......unless the Listowner held it up........) If so Dean, please let me know. Heather See interspersed comments......and I just noticed your follow-up, Denis. I am not sending it there until I read what has been said. It is not one I am using at the moment.......alt.comp.virus, GRC security, and the MS groups is where I operate out of. But I have now put some comments out on that group.......and I was blunt (what else, grin). The problem was on this List......not on soc.genealogy.computing.....so posting the warnings on here is the place they should be posted. Hmm, blunt again. But that is my middle name!! "Denis Beauregard" <spam-is-rejected@genealogie.com.invalid> wrote in message news:d1c7bv0e4cspks6p58evp56hstn21pot6t@4ax.com... > (follow-up set to soc.genealogy.computing which is thew > newsgroups to discuss that subject) > > On Fri, 2 May 2003 22:59:04 +0000 (UTC), dialincc@tpg.com.au ("Di > Coghlan") wrote in soc.genealogy.west-indies: > > >to students and friends. I have downloaded and run AdAware which found 6 > >"infections", mainly in the Cookies folder, but one in the registry. > > cookies can't be "infected", i.e. they will keep > information to track you, but only information you already > gave them. Cookies are not infected.......right. But they can contain spyware that reports back to 'home base' on your web interests and conceivably your banking numbers and so on. As I use Zone Alarm Firewall 100% of the time, not one of them is able to 'phone home' and report back. For a long time I handpicked them out and also rigged the security section of Internet Explorer to not allow them to download. My 'cookie jar' (cute phrase) contains roughly 20-30 when I clean them out (usually every day). I get rid of the harmless ones as well.....the ones from every website you visit.......and YES.........that is where you get them from. Every website, good or bad, drops a cookie onto your machine to facilitate a return visit with the information. I never take off my banking ones for instance. My cookies jar for example has 86 cookies or 55 > unique ones if I removed duplicates. Some obvious "spies" are: > > .2o7.net > .advertising.com > .bfast.com > .doubleclick.net > server.iad.liveperson.net Add some more here........fastclick, mediaplex, atdmt, and so on and so on. All of these are causal factors for spam.....they report back on your surfing habits......you get spam re those areas of interest. BUT, I have never been on a porn site (huge grin).......so I am not getting the 'male enhancer or viagra' ones from my surfing habits.....I get them from mass spambots scouring the news groups......which this list is gatewayed to. So......think on that one. > > None is from a site I visited. They can track sites you > visited to better target you, but otherwise, they are not > vicious. > It was not a cookie that I had in the Registry.......the browser hijacker had hidden itself in there in 3 places/keys and I used Spybot to find them. I then downloaded a special program called "Hijack This" and sent the resulting reports to a Spyware Forum and they were amazed that I had totally gotten rid of it myself.....manually. It is a common one apparently. Everyone should have an up-to-date antivirus......and also Zone Alarm or some other firewall, which keeps intruders out and cookies or trojans from phoning home. And I see you are inferring that an antivirus is not enough. You are right.........it isn't. And FWIW......I used a special program to view the website in question and it was chock full of popup ad instructions......this should be reported to the Max pages owner!! If he gives a damn!! But it is also down now and will give you a '404 - not found' error. > If you use safer products (avoid MS Internet Explorer, > MS Mail, Outlook, etc.) and know what you do, then you can survive > to the net. Otherwise, you can't without anti-virus but anyway, > anti-virus are not enough. But I totally disagree with you on MS OE/IE and so on. I have used it for 7 years and it normally is pretty malware proof. This one slipped by me because my security was lowered as someone else was also using this computer who was a newbie. And things will happen from time to time even with all the security precautions in the world........my ActiveX happened to be a bit loose for the above person's usage. Ergo, I got the browser hijacker. Properly configured.......Microsoft products CAN be just as safe as any other mail or news program. You just have to know what to do to make it safe. And I also practice 'safe hex'.........which is basically common sense, with some security features of my own I have thrown in. Yes......I am OT again. But I have had some interesting off List emails and one in particular sounds like she has a hijacker problem.....but she is not on this List and hadn't been on the Max Pages website. I will be sorting her out in 2 minutes. Microsoft Troubleshooter can be your best friend at times........I used it in part to sort this mess out. Along with Spybot, a registry cleaner and a final check with my antivirus. (and a few other tweaks in between.....grin). So again.......if you folks need help, you know where I am. Computer security and antivirus work are my alternate passion. As well, I answer 'problem' questions when I can on the MS WinME news groups. And if I can't help you, I have a lot of people I can call on to do so. Cheers from Brampton on a bright sunny cold day..........Heather

See interspersed comments......and I just noticed your follow-up, Denis. I am not sending it there until I read what has been said. It is not one I am using at the moment.......alt.comp.virus, GRC security, and the MS groups is where I operate out of. But I have now put some comments out on that group.......and I was blunt (what else, grin). The problem was on this List......not on soc.genealogy.computing.....so posting the warnings on here is the place they should be posted. Hmm, blunt again. But that is my middle name!! "Denis Beauregard" <spam-is-rejected@genealogie.com.invalid> wrote in message news:d1c7bv0e4cspks6p58evp56hstn21pot6t@4ax.com... > (follow-up set to soc.genealogy.computing which is thew > newsgroups to discuss that subject) > > On Fri, 2 May 2003 22:59:04 +0000 (UTC), dialincc@tpg.com.au ("Di > Coghlan") wrote in soc.genealogy.west-indies: > > >to students and friends. I have downloaded and run AdAware which found 6 > >"infections", mainly in the Cookies folder, but one in the registry. > > cookies can't be "infected", i.e. they will keep > information to track you, but only information you already > gave them. Cookies are not infected.......right. But they can contain spyware that reports back to 'home base' on your web interests and conceivably your banking numbers and so on. As I use Zone Alarm Firewall 100% of the time, not one of them is able to 'phone home' and report back. For a long time I handpicked them out and also rigged the security section of Internet Explorer to not allow them to download. My 'cookie jar' (cute phrase) contains roughly 20-30 when I clean them out (usually every day). I get rid of the harmless ones as well.....the ones from every website you visit.......and YES.........that is where you get them from. Every website, good or bad, drops a cookie onto your machine to facilitate a return visit with the information. I never take off my banking ones for instance. My cookies jar for example has 86 cookies or 55 > unique ones if I removed duplicates. Some obvious "spies" are: > > .2o7.net > .advertising.com > .bfast.com > .doubleclick.net > server.iad.liveperson.net Add some more here........fastclick, mediaplex, atdmt, and so on and so on. All of these are causal factors for spam.....they report back on your surfing habits......you get spam re those areas of interest. BUT, I have never been on a porn site (huge grin).......so I am not getting the 'male enhancer or viagra' ones from my surfing habits.....I get them from mass spambots scouring the news groups......which this list is gatewayed to. So......think on that one. > > None is from a site I visited. They can track sites you > visited to better target you, but otherwise, they are not > vicious. > It was not a cookie that I had in the Registry.......the browser hijacker had hidden itself in there in 3 places/keys and I used Spybot to find them. I then downloaded a special program called "Hijack This" and sent the resulting reports to a Spyware Forum and they were amazed that I had totally gotten rid of it myself.....manually. It is a common one apparently. Everyone should have an up-to-date antivirus......and also Zone Alarm or some other firewall, which keeps intruders out and cookies or trojans from phoning home. And I see you are inferring that an antivirus is not enough. You are right.........it isn't. And FWIW......I used a special program to view the website in question and it was chock full of popup ad instructions......this should be reported to the Max pages owner!! If he gives a damn!! But it is also down now and will give you a '404 - not found' error. > If you use safer products (avoid MS Internet Explorer, > MS Mail, Outlook, etc.) and know what you do, then you can survive > to the net. Otherwise, you can't without anti-virus but anyway, > anti-virus are not enough. But I totally disagree with you on MS OE/IE and so on. I have used it for 7 years and it normally is pretty malware proof. This one slipped by me because my security was lowered as someone else was also using this computer who was a newbie. And things will happen from time to time even with all the security precautions in the world........my ActiveX happened to be a bit loose for the above person's usage. Ergo, I got the browser hijacker. Properly configured.......Microsoft products CAN be just as safe as any other mail or news program. You just have to know what to do to make it safe. And I also practice 'safe hex'.........which is basically common sense, with some security features of my own I have thrown in. Yes......I am OT again. But I have had some interesting off List emails and one in particular sounds like she has a hijacker problem.....but she is not on this List and hadn't been on the Max Pages website. I will be sorting her out in 2 minutes. Microsoft Troubleshooter can be your best friend at times........I used it in part to sort this mess out. Along with Spybot, a registry cleaner and a final check with my antivirus. (and a few other tweaks in between.....grin). So again.......if you folks need help, you know where I am. Computer security and antivirus work are my alternate passion. As well, I answer 'problem' questions when I can on the MS WinME news groups. And if I can't help you, I have a lot of people I can call on to do so. Cheers from Brampton on a bright sunny cold day..........Heather

What may be of side interest is land arrangements... I believe Codrington never owned Barbuda outright but was assigned it on a 99-year least by the Crown for a nominal sum. This was a common arrangement and I believe continues to this day. My understanding is that current-day Barbudans do not own the land they live on but it is their to use as long as they continue to live there. So it is near impossible to be an off-shore homeowner unless special arrangements are made or a family member remains in residence. Even now Barbudans routinely knock down walls (of any height) erected by foreign investors - such as in exclusive clubs - who seek to keep locals away from their properties. This land lease arrangement was also the case in places like Mustique and Palm Island, where the islands were made available on a nominal-fee long lease which reverts to the Crown (or local national government, of course) when the lease expires. All subject to correction, of course, but these are my understandings in my travels across the eastern Caribbean as a pilot. -- At 01:54 PM 5/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: >A book, entitled "Codrington Correspondence" catalogs over 500 letters >having to do with estate matters of the Codrington holdings in Antigua >and Barbuda. Betty's Hope was the main estate on Angtigua and the >Codringtons virtually owned the whole of Barbuda at one time. >In this book are two letters written by John Edwards. The following >is the complete information contained in the book. John Edwards was a >slave of Codrington's in Antigua and wrote the next two letters. >Letter dated Dec. 26, 1814 from John Edwards to Christopher >Codrington: Seeks to purchase his freedom and still remain in the >Codrington's employ >Letter dated October 23, 1815 from John Edwards to Christopher >Codrington: A grateful letter of thanks endorsed by Codrington "my >servant when in Antigua whom I manumited. C.B.C" > >The only thing that I omitted above were the postal markings and the >rate paid to send the letters. I find the book a very good reference >but that is all that is there on John Edwards. The correspondence >runs out about 1840 and so no possible information on CD Butler. >Tim > > >On Sat, 3 May 2003 00:07:50 +0000 (UTC), ANDREADRAMSEY@cs.com wrote: > > >I'm interested in any information on Betty's Hope as my paternal > grandfather, > >Charles David BUTLER, was born there ca. 1890's. Also of interest are the > >letters pertaing to slave John Edwards, as I have EDWARDS ancestors from > >Barbuda. Unfortunately, the few vital records I've found for Barbuda are > >mixed in with those of Antigua making research a slow process. > >Andrea > > > >In a message dated 5/2/2003 4:42:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >CARIBBEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >> "Two letters in 1814-15 from a slave John Edwards seeking to buy his > >> freedom in the first letter and sending thanks in the second -- the > >> second letter endorsed by "CBC" [Christopher Bethell Codrington] > >> 'My servant when I am in Antigua whom I manumitted' > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked Regards, James C. "Jim" Lynch 510 Conley Street, Thornhill, ON L4J6T8, CANADA 905-760-2413 (direct, message machine) 905-738-3599 (not direct, voice mail) http://www.candoo.com/

A book, entitled "Codrington Correspondence" catalogs over 500 letters having to do with estate matters of the Codrington holdings in Antigua and Barbuda. Betty's Hope was the main estate on Angtigua and the Codringtons virtually owned the whole of Barbuda at one time. In this book are two letters written by John Edwards. The following is the complete information contained in the book. John Edwards was a slave of Codrington's in Antigua and wrote the next two letters. Letter dated Dec. 26, 1814 from John Edwards to Christopher Codrington: Seeks to purchase his freedom and still remain in the Codrington's employ Letter dated October 23, 1815 from John Edwards to Christopher Codrington: A grateful letter of thanks endorsed by Codrington "my servant when in Antigua whom I manumited. C.B.C" The only thing that I omitted above were the postal markings and the rate paid to send the letters. I find the book a very good reference but that is all that is there on John Edwards. The correspondence runs out about 1840 and so no possible information on CD Butler. Tim On Sat, 3 May 2003 00:07:50 +0000 (UTC), ANDREADRAMSEY@cs.com wrote: >I'm interested in any information on Betty's Hope as my paternal grandfather, >Charles David BUTLER, was born there ca. 1890's. Also of interest are the >letters pertaing to slave John Edwards, as I have EDWARDS ancestors from >Barbuda. Unfortunately, the few vital records I've found for Barbuda are >mixed in with those of Antigua making research a slow process. >Andrea > >In a message dated 5/2/2003 4:42:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, >CARIBBEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >> "Two letters in 1814-15 from a slave John Edwards seeking to buy his >> freedom in the first letter and sending thanks in the second -- the >> second letter endorsed by "CBC" [Christopher Bethell Codrington] >> 'My servant when I am in Antigua whom I manumitted'

In a message dated 05/03/2003 8:50:31 AM Central Daylight Time, tony.whittingham@sympatico.ca writes: > I'm looking for information on these two families in Jamaica. The > Gregg's used to live in Mandeville, then St. Andrew. The Levy's were > possibly from Black River. One Mr. Charles Levy ( my Grandfather) ran a > drugstore at Half Way Tree until his death in the mid 1960's.Any ideas > where > I should look for this?I'm new to this group, so I'm not sure where to go > for info. > Tony: Donald Lindo's CD on Jamaican Genealogy lists a Charles Brandford LEVY who died Sep 4, 1966 and who was married to Vera Constance GREGG. Are these members of the families you are looking for? Rupert Bodden

Hi Andrea, I am currently working with the "Triennial Slave Returns" that we ordered through our local FHC. My reseach covers "Betty's Hope" as well as the entire Island of Barbuda, for 1824 - 1832. I will look for the surname BUTLER and will happily share any information that I find. And you are right when you say - "Unfortunately, the few vital records I've found for Barbuda are mixed in with those of Antigua making research a slow process." :>) Sincerely, Pat > I'm interested in any information on Betty's Hope as my paternal grandfather, Charles David BUTLER, was born there ca. 1890's. Also of interest are the letters pertaing to slave John Edwards, as I have EDWARDS ancestors from Barbuda. Unfortunately, the few vital records I've found for Barbuda are mixed in with those of Antigua making research a slow process. Andrea

Thanks for the info. Kind regards Christine Fensbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Figueroa" <heatherfig@rogers.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: WARNING!! Browser Hijacking...... > Hi All...... > > I am sure a lot of you know that my other passion is security and > viruses. But spyware and browser hijacking are relatively new and I > doubt that most of you are aware of this rising phenomenom......but you > should be. > > I had clicked on an old link in Genealogy.com for Patsy's site as she > described and after 8 popups and a nasty spyware program called GATOR > trying to download, I got the heck out of there......but the damage had > been done. > > The next day my home page was changed to "Find the Website You Need" and > among other things, I couldn't update my computer at Windows Update > because it interfered with that as well. > > There are two good programs out there for spyware (and spyware can be > 'benign' or 'malignant' to use medical terms.....this one was a bad one. > AdAware 6 is a bit more user friendly.....I happen to use Spybot Search > and Destroy, which is not. It scares me at times (G). > > It found 3 entries hidden in my Registry for this hijacker and I deleted > them. I am now in the process of running a specialized program for > hijacking and it is being evaluated by the experts!! So this is not > something that is minor. This is majorly serious. And if any of you > ever have your home page hijacked, write me immediately. > > DO NOT GO TO MAX PAGES!! As far as I can see, that is where I picked up > this sneaky hijacker. That site showed up as the first line in the > specialized Hijack analyzer....so I don't doubt this. Some *%&^ has > taken over the page and will cause you nothing but grief!! > > Patsy had nothing to do with this......it was done behind her back and I > wrote her this morning when I had enough information and the cleanup > process almost completed. > > I will give you the links for AdAware and Spybot, but suggest you use > the first one.......it is more user-friendly. I run it every day to > take out the spyware cookies that land on here. Usually 3 or 4 per day. > I happened to have it off temporarily for a reason and that is how I got > hijacked. > > http://www.lsfileserv.com/index.html - this is the one for the new > version 6 of AdAware......read the first page, click on the free one and > download it. > > http://security.kolla.de/ - this is the Spybot Search and Destroy and > for the 'everyday user', it is a little complicated, so stick with > AdAware. > > I hope I have covered everything.......but it seems no matter what > defence mechanisms the experts come up with, the 'black hats' invent > newer ones. If you want to write me off-List........no problem. > > If there is anything further I will post it......but because this was > Pat Jackson's old website that was involved, I felt that you all needed > a warning and an explanation. And check your Favourites and delete any > "Max Pages" sites you might have...... > > Now......think I will go have a drink!! (G) And it won't be just > Pepsi!! > > Cheers.....Heather > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

Sharing the data for all === I found the following in the St. Croix Avis of 20 Jan 1865: 19 Jan 1865 Axel Hjalmar Bue Brahde, age 22, who had arrived on 10 Jan 1865 died of yellow fever. He was the son of the late Judge Brahde of St. Johns ===

Hi All, I'm looking for information on these two families in Jamaica. The Gregg's used to live in Mandeville, then St. Andrew. The Levy's were possibly from Black River. One Mr. Charles Levy ( my Grandfather) ran a drugstore at Half Way Tree until his death in the mid 1960's.Any ideas where I should look for this?I'm new to this group, so I'm not sure where to go for info. Thanks in advance, Tony Whittingham

Heather Thank you for sharing this information and the resources to combat the problems that we are all experiencing. I am a teacher of IT in adult education and will pass on your warnings, experiences and the resource sites to students and friends. I have downloaded and run AdAware which found 6 "infections", mainly in the Cookies folder, but one in the registry. Previously I have taken to reloading Windows about every 6 months to overcome this problem, so I will be interested to see how effective AdAware is. Thanks again for your advice. Regards Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Figueroa" <heatherfig@rogers.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: WARNING!! Browser Hijacking...... > Hi All...... > > I am sure a lot of you know that my other passion is security and > viruses. But spyware and browser hijacking are relatively new and I > doubt that most of you are aware of this rising phenomenom......but you > should be. > > I had clicked on an old link in Genealogy.com for Patsy's site as she > described and after 8 popups and a nasty spyware program called GATOR > trying to download, I got the heck out of there......but the damage had > been done. > > The next day my home page was changed to "Find the Website You Need" and > among other things, I couldn't update my computer at Windows Update > because it interfered with that as well. > > There are two good programs out there for spyware (and spyware can be > 'benign' or 'malignant' to use medical terms.....this one was a bad one. > AdAware 6 is a bit more user friendly.....I happen to use Spybot Search > and Destroy, which is not. It scares me at times (G). > > It found 3 entries hidden in my Registry for this hijacker and I deleted > them. I am now in the process of running a specialized program for > hijacking and it is being evaluated by the experts!! So this is not > something that is minor. This is majorly serious. And if any of you > ever have your home page hijacked, write me immediately. > > DO NOT GO TO MAX PAGES!! As far as I can see, that is where I picked up > this sneaky hijacker. That site showed up as the first line in the > specialized Hijack analyzer....so I don't doubt this. Some *%&^ has > taken over the page and will cause you nothing but grief!! > > Patsy had nothing to do with this......it was done behind her back and I > wrote her this morning when I had enough information and the cleanup > process almost completed. > > I will give you the links for AdAware and Spybot, but suggest you use > the first one.......it is more user-friendly. I run it every day to > take out the spyware cookies that land on here. Usually 3 or 4 per day. > I happened to have it off temporarily for a reason and that is how I got > hijacked. > > http://www.lsfileserv.com/index.html - this is the one for the new > version 6 of AdAware......read the first page, click on the free one and > download it. > > http://security.kolla.de/ - this is the Spybot Search and Destroy and > for the 'everyday user', it is a little complicated, so stick with > AdAware. > > I hope I have covered everything.......but it seems no matter what > defence mechanisms the experts come up with, the 'black hats' invent > newer ones. If you want to write me off-List........no problem. > > If there is anything further I will post it......but because this was > Pat Jackson's old website that was involved, I felt that you all needed > a warning and an explanation. And check your Favourites and delete any > "Max Pages" sites you might have...... > > Now......think I will go have a drink!! (G) And it won't be just > Pepsi!! > > Cheers.....Heather > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ >

(follow-up set to soc.genealogy.computing which is thew newsgroups to discuss that subject) On Fri, 2 May 2003 22:59:04 +0000 (UTC), dialincc@tpg.com.au ("Di Coghlan") wrote in soc.genealogy.west-indies: >to students and friends. I have downloaded and run AdAware which found 6 >"infections", mainly in the Cookies folder, but one in the registry. cookies can't be "infected", i.e. they will keep information to track you, but only information you already gave them. My cookies jar for example has 86 cookies or 55 unique ones if I removed duplicates. Some obvious "spies" are: .2o7.net .advertising.com .bfast.com .doubleclick.net server.iad.liveperson.net None is from a site I visited. They can track sites you visited to better target you, but otherwise, they are not vicious. But the one in the registry is vicious. No web site should be able to modify your register and if one does, then you should find where you got it. If it is a genealogy site, you should say which key was changed. Many netters never use anti-virus for the mere reason if a virus is propagated from day 1, and the anti-virus is updated at day + 10, then you are unsafe during 9 days. If you use safer products (avoid MS Internet Explorer, MS Mail, Outlook, etc.) and know what you do, then you can survive to the net. Otherwise, you can't without anti-virus but anyway, anti-virus are not enough. Denis -- 0 Denis Beauregard http://www.genealogie.com (français) /\/ Genealogy Web site: http://www.francogene.com (English) |\ >>Adresse modifiée souvent/email changed frequently<< / | Relationniste - www.sgcf.com - 60 ans en 2003 ! oo oo Société généalogique canadienne-française

This was sent to me by a contact off the Irish Co Mayo List, & many of the name abbreviations are common in that area, but I know that anyone who makes use of these tips will benefit by Joe's suggestions & I'm sure won't mind me sharing it with others. Cheers, Merril ************************************ I have been looking at church microfilms for the last seven years. I have encountered many different problems trying to read these microfilms so I have developed a list of helpful hints over time. I'm sure you are aware of most of them, but maybe there is one or two that might help. 1. In all probability the microfilm you will be using is 16 mm. Some records are microfilmed on 35 mm. If you have the 16mm film, ask the FHC if they have any microfilm viewers that have an enlarging capability. Use the reader that gives you the greatest magnification. 2. Some of the pages will be faint and hard to read. Put a sheet of yellow paper or light yellow cardboard on the surface where the image is being projected. This, for some reason, makes the writing a little easier to see. 3. Sometimes the entry you want is at the bottom of the page and is hard to read because oil and dirt from the hands of people turning the pages of the original document turned the paper dark. Get the most light possible on his portion of the page. The reader does not evenly distribute the light coming through the lens. Move the portion you are trying to read to the middle of the surface receiving the image from the microfilm. Sometimes this will make the difference in being able to read the entry. 4. Do not spend more than 30 minutes at a time viewing the records. You need to give your eyes and mind frequent breaks. After 30 minutes, get up, walk around, focus on things off in the distance, get a drink of water, etc. You will miss fewer entries this way. Its amazing how you can look at something and pass right by not realizing it is a name you are looking for. 5. Plan on making more than one pass through the microfilm. You never find them all on the first pass. On my third pass through the Ballysakeery Parish records, I still found two Egan entries I had missed on the first two passes. A few months later, I made another pass but did not find anything I missed. See if you can put this microfilm on permanent loan at your FHC. This costs about $7.00 U.S. but you will always have it available for future reference. You will find new family names, by marriage, from that parish as your research progresses. You will want to see if you can find these new names in the parish records. 6. Get a high powered hand held magnifying glass. This will help you a lot in reading some entries and the glass throws additional light on the subject matter, which is helpful on very dark records. Also, a light gathering magnifier, which is dome shaped, will put a lot more light on a dark area and usually make the writing readable. 7. When you get to the portions of the records where the priest had a terrible handwriting, you may have a hard time recognizing the names you are researching. You have to take time to analyze his handwriting. Find out how he forms the different letters in the names you are looking for by finding them in words you recognize. 8. The priest will very often use an abbreviation for a first name. Patrick is often "Patt"; Michael will be "Mich" with a squiggly line going from the "h" in Michael at a 45 degree angle to the right. Thomas will be "Thos" with the squiggly line; James will be "Jas" without the squiggly. 9. It helps to become familiar with the script variations of that time. One in particular comes to mind. I had several entries with the first name of Bepsy, which really threw me. After reading about script variations of that time I found out that Europeans made a double "s" with the first "s" looking something like a backward "p". So Bepsy was actually Bessy and my mystery was solved. Check this site on the Internet "http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html" for some good hints. ( this doesn't appear to be working any longer, Merril ) 10. If a name is difficult, turn your head away and see what it looks like *immediately* on looking back at the film (and without magnification) - names one has agonized over at close quarters sometimes jump out at you at first glance. View the word at different angles and distances, sometimes this helps. 11. Write down the page number and entry number for each extraction you make. This will help you to get quickly back to the entry if you need to recheck the information. Sometimes the records are in such bad shape you can't read the page number or sometimes they never bothered to number the pages. There was little standardization in how the information is entered or what is contained in the entry. 12. Go to "http://www.seanruad.com/" and get a list of all the townlands in the parish you are reviewing. Very often you can figure out the handwritten townland if you have a printed list of the townlands handy. 13. If you have access to the Griffith Valuation Index CD, print out all the surnames for the parish of interest. If you have a hard time reading the surname on the microfilm you may be able to figure it out if you have a list of the surnames in that parish handy. I'd appreciate any helpful hints you might have developed through your experience. Regards, Joe Egan

Dear Karen, I have just re subscribed to the Caribbean List, so haven't followed this line of correspondence, however I would like to add something that may not have been covered, & my apologies if I am repeating what has been said before. I am not a member of the Mormon Church, but have done quite a bit of research over the past 20yrs & where there were never any films of use to me in those earlier years, I know the LDS are continually filming around the world & had been to Grenada, prior to a visit that I had in 1998 & now many of the records I viewed in hard copy are available through the LDS system. I think that much of what you will access online from the LDS records will be from the IGI ( International Genealogical Index ) This is an Index only, mostly compiled from the names found on Parish Registers that have been microfilmed & is considered a finding aid. The LDS have a massive amount of material that has not & no doubt will never be indexed, due to the magnitude of the task, so the best option is to look to see what films there are available for the areas you have your research interests. LDS Site http://www.familysearch.org/ A Search for Thomas Bell Grenada = 37 results, 3 from 1881 UK Census, 9 from the IGI & the remainder from various websites, which I doubt will even give me a Thomas Bell in Grenada, but just brings up sites that have all 3 words in them. However a search for Films of records from Grenada reveals an unbelieveable number of Films that can be ordered for viewing. If you are not sure how to search for them, go to the Library Link at the top of the page then click on Family History Library Catalogue, then Place Search. Often the obvious search for St Lucia may not give any results, but if you think of other ways to find how it might be filed you will get results. Always check Related Places & View Film Notes I did these tests Place Part of Result St Lucia Nothing Found St Lucia Leeward Islands Nothing Found Leeward Islands 2 Hits with 12 Topics as below, but sadly there don't seem to be any films for Church Registers, or any Civil Registration of Births etc. Archives and libraries Archives and libraries - Inventories, registers, catalogs Cemeteries Census - Bibliography Church directories Church records Court records Emigration and immigration Gazetteers History - Sources Maps Military records Many of the original documents are in very poor conditions, so naturally the film copies are poor too, but I guess anything is better than nothing. There are ways of getting the best from these films, even though hard to read & I'll send a seperate Email with some tips for accessing the information on the films. Many of the Caribbean films require a High Magnification Reader to view them, so it is advisable to ask at your local FHC if they have such a machine & when your film arrives, request that machine when wishing to view the films. Good Luck. Cheers, Merril Bourne, New Zealand.

Dans l'article <00be01c31007$52425440$05c71f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com>, thelombards@attbi.com ("Jeff Lombard")a écrit : > >Please excuse my ignorance but I really have not worked with LDS microfilms >at all. What is Le Mouillage is a village? Can I ask what you are looking >at that lets you know there are a lot of records on Renault in St Lucia. >When we went it was hard to gather information and I finally had the archives >do a search for me looking for my Bonnets and Jennings clan and the baptismal >certificate for a Marie Therese Bonnet has the mother as Marianne Sophie >Parigau married to Felix Bonnet, also mentioned Bernard Parigau, Pierre >Parigau married to Ambroise Sophie Renault grandmother and grandfather to >Pierre Felix Bonnet, Felix Bonnet son of Felix Bonnet and Dame Assee Parigau >marries Elizabeth Clemence Noel, Charles Denis Bonnet Cadet (not sure what >the Cadet means) godfather Charles Parigau and godmother Laurence Euphrasie >Parigau listed as great aunt and uncle. Any ideas and help is greatly >appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the time to look this over. > Bonjour Karen First excuse my bad "old european" english. The town of St Pierre in Martinique had 2 parishes : Le Mouillage (harbour) were lived the merchants. Le Fort French records of St Lucia are hold in Centre des Archives d'Outre-Mer in Aix en Provence. They were microfilmed by LDS. Look at http://members.aol.com/GHCaraibe/geo/geosluc1.html Our association has recorded marriages and burials not births. I can send you what I have about BONNET, RENAULT, PARIGAU families in St Lucia but in french. It is difficult for me to understand your genealogy. A page in english is at http://members.aol.com/GHCaraibe/pub/pubquea.html Could you give me (possible) dates for Sophie Ambroise. I found a Ambroise RENAULT dead 1778 who could be a godmother of Sophie Ambroise This family was from Angers Pierre PARIGAU père et fils (father and son) in St Lucia 1785 But these records are probably too "old" for an easy connection. Regards Philippe Rossignol What is our association ? http://members.aol.com/GHCaraibe/pub/pubgena.html

Hi Di....... You are more than welcome. It is a never-ending battle to keep up with all the exploits that are out there. And I usually run a pretty tight computer, so to speak. And I always had Spybot on here......but had taken it off to check out a possible problem. I used AdAware for a long time too, but the new one seemed to cause some problems with my Windows Millenium, so took it off and kept Spybot. But AdAware is an excellent proggie and you will like it. One other thing........a spyware-fighting friend checked out the website in question and he said.......... >>>The site is heavily loaded with embedded adserver stuff, which generates the popups. Durn near sucked all my RAM out when I uncloaked my defences.<<< I have a lot of little free programs that are very helpful with annoying things and another one I forgot to mention is Popup Stopper which I put on when surfing. There is a free version and I just looked thru the website for the link for it. It is on the right hand side at the bottom of the chart at....... http://www.panicware.com/popupstoppercompare.html It works beautifully at stopping the pop up ads. But I didn't have it on for a genealogy link. 8-(( I will write you off List if you would like to know the program I used to make sure the hijacker was off here. And it was. Sorry for the OT posts, but this was a potentially serious problem had a *newbie* clicked on the same link. They would not have realized what it was. Worse.....they could have blamed the former website person and Patsy had absolutely nothing to do with it. I think that the person in charge of that website should be hauled up on the carpet and I will be looking into that for sure. Cheers.........Heather List Admin - ENG-CUL http://www.british-genealogy.com > Heather > Thank you for sharing this information and the resources to combat the > problems that we are all experiencing. I am a teacher of IT in adult > education and will pass on your warnings, experiences and the resource sites > to students and friends. I have downloaded and run AdAware which found 6 > "infections", mainly in the Cookies folder, but one in the registry. > Previously I have taken to reloading Windows about every 6 months to > overcome this problem, so I will be interested to see how effective AdAware > is. > Thanks again for your advice. > Regards > Di > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather Figueroa" <heatherfig@rogers.com> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:34 AM > Subject: WARNING!! Browser Hijacking...... > > > > Hi All...... > > > > I am sure a lot of you know that my other passion is security and > > viruses. But spyware and browser hijacking are relatively new and I > > doubt that most of you are aware of this rising phenomenom......but you > > should be. > > > > I had clicked on an old link in Genealogy.com for Patsy's site as she > > described and after 8 popups and a nasty spyware program called GATOR > > trying to download, I got the heck out of there......but the damage had > > been done. > > > > The next day my home page was changed to "Find the Website You Need" and > > among other things, I couldn't update my computer at Windows Update > > because it interfered with that as well. > > > > There are two good programs out there for spyware (and spyware can be > > 'benign' or 'malignant' to use medical terms.....this one was a bad one. > > AdAware 6 is a bit more user friendly.....I happen to use Spybot Search > > and Destroy, which is not. It scares me at times (G). > > > > It found 3 entries hidden in my Registry for this hijacker and I deleted > > them. I am now in the process of running a specialized program for > > hijacking and it is being evaluated by the experts!! So this is not > > something that is minor. This is majorly serious. And if any of you > > ever have your home page hijacked, write me immediately. > > > > DO NOT GO TO MAX PAGES!! As far as I can see, that is where I picked up > > this sneaky hijacker. That site showed up as the first line in the > > specialized Hijack analyzer....so I don't doubt this. Some *%&^ has > > taken over the page and will cause you nothing but grief!! > > > > Patsy had nothing to do with this......it was done behind her back and I > > wrote her this morning when I had enough information and the cleanup > > process almost completed. > > > > I will give you the links for AdAware and Spybot, but suggest you use > > the first one.......it is more user-friendly. I run it every day to > > take out the spyware cookies that land on here. Usually 3 or 4 per day. > > I happened to have it off temporarily for a reason and that is how I got > > hijacked. > > > > http://www.lsfileserv.com/index.html - this is the one for the new > > version 6 of AdAware......read the first page, click on the free one and > > download it. > > > > http://security.kolla.de/ - this is the Spybot Search and Destroy and > > for the 'everyday user', it is a little complicated, so stick with > > AdAware. > > > > I hope I have covered everything.......but it seems no matter what > > defence mechanisms the experts come up with, the 'black hats' invent > > newer ones. If you want to write me off-List........no problem. > > > > If there is anything further I will post it......but because this was > > Pat Jackson's old website that was involved, I felt that you all needed > > a warning and an explanation. And check your Favourites and delete any > > "Max Pages" sites you might have...... > > > > Now......think I will go have a drink!! (G) And it won't be just > > Pepsi!! > > > > Cheers.....Heather > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin > boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked >

I'm interested in any information on Betty's Hope as my paternal grandfather, Charles David BUTLER, was born there ca. 1890's. Also of interest are the letters pertaing to slave John Edwards, as I have EDWARDS ancestors from Barbuda. Unfortunately, the few vital records I've found for Barbuda are mixed in with those of Antigua making research a slow process. Andrea In a message dated 5/2/2003 4:42:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, CARIBBEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > "Two letters in 1814-15 from a slave John Edwards seeking to buy his > freedom in the first letter and sending thanks in the second -- the > second letter endorsed by "CBC" [Christopher Bethell Codrington] > 'My servant when I am in Antigua whom I manumitted'

Does anyone know of a detailed map of Barbuda that I can access either on-line or from another source? I've found many detailed maps of Antigua, but not of Barbuda. Andrea

Hi All...... I am sure a lot of you know that my other passion is security and viruses. But spyware and browser hijacking are relatively new and I doubt that most of you are aware of this rising phenomenom......but you should be. I had clicked on an old link in Genealogy.com for Patsy's site as she described and after 8 popups and a nasty spyware program called GATOR trying to download, I got the heck out of there......but the damage had been done. The next day my home page was changed to "Find the Website You Need" and among other things, I couldn't update my computer at Windows Update because it interfered with that as well. There are two good programs out there for spyware (and spyware can be 'benign' or 'malignant' to use medical terms.....this one was a bad one. AdAware 6 is a bit more user friendly.....I happen to use Spybot Search and Destroy, which is not. It scares me at times (G). It found 3 entries hidden in my Registry for this hijacker and I deleted them. I am now in the process of running a specialized program for hijacking and it is being evaluated by the experts!! So this is not something that is minor. This is majorly serious. And if any of you ever have your home page hijacked, write me immediately. DO NOT GO TO MAX PAGES!! As far as I can see, that is where I picked up this sneaky hijacker. That site showed up as the first line in the specialized Hijack analyzer....so I don't doubt this. Some *%&^ has taken over the page and will cause you nothing but grief!! Patsy had nothing to do with this......it was done behind her back and I wrote her this morning when I had enough information and the cleanup process almost completed. I will give you the links for AdAware and Spybot, but suggest you use the first one.......it is more user-friendly. I run it every day to take out the spyware cookies that land on here. Usually 3 or 4 per day. I happened to have it off temporarily for a reason and that is how I got hijacked. http://www.lsfileserv.com/index.html - this is the one for the new version 6 of AdAware......read the first page, click on the free one and download it. http://security.kolla.de/ - this is the Spybot Search and Destroy and for the 'everyday user', it is a little complicated, so stick with AdAware. I hope I have covered everything.......but it seems no matter what defence mechanisms the experts come up with, the 'black hats' invent newer ones. If you want to write me off-List........no problem. If there is anything further I will post it......but because this was Pat Jackson's old website that was involved, I felt that you all needed a warning and an explanation. And check your Favourites and delete any "Max Pages" sites you might have...... Now......think I will go have a drink!! (G) And it won't be just Pepsi!! Cheers.....Heather

In 1999 I created a "free" webpage at http.maxpages.com/jamaicanfamily (I have purposely omitted the // so that no one uses this is a link). I am now warning you NOT to try going to that website. Here is the reason why. The way that maxpages finances the "free" websites is to load them with ads and popups. Some months ago they gave website holders the option to pay an annual fee so as to have the ads removed. For some reason the popup ads remained, despite payment. On Thursday, April 24, I went to the website to make a periodic check of messages in the Guest Book. I was barraged by popup ads. Several messages in the Guest Book complained of the same problem. It took me two days to delete my website, the popups were so bad that they were locking up my computer. As of now I HAVE DELETED THE WEBSITE. There is no longer any Jamaican genealogy information there. I apologize for the inconvenience. I have now been informed by Heather Figueroa that if you try to go to that website you will be automatically forwarded to some other site, and your browser will be subject to attack. Heather is going to write a message explaining the process. The bottom line is DO NOT GO TO MAXPAGES.COM/JAMAICANFAMILY. Sorry for the capital letters, but I do not want anyone to be exposed to this problem. The information that was on the site I erased can also be found in the free pages at <A HREF="http://jamaicanfamilysearch.com">http://jamaicanfamilysearch.com</A>, where there are no ads and no popups. Patricia Jackson

I had to travel to St. Croix to find this one. It was not so easy to find it. So allow me to share it with all of you: http://www.library.gov.vi/ The public Library in St. Croix lost quite a bit of reference material from both Hurricanes Hugo and Marilyn. They are greatly in need of funds to replace most of their work. The head librarian at the Florence A. Williams Library in St. Croix is Mr. William Wallace. It would be a shame to have so much records lost forever. The library is accepting donations.