Lenora: Here is a currency converter website to help assess the cost: http://www.xe.com/ucc/ C.J. Lenora Anderson wrote: > Lisa.. thank you so much.. I have not done searches in UK much as I don't > have enough iformation regards certain families.. Thought I would look any > way. Imagine my surprise when I did the Quick search for Wills and on the > first page up came the ancestors of my mothers family from the 1600's! so of > course I did Quick search for the other familys and I find that there are > possibly many of mine there.. Thanks! > In sending away for the Wills, how do I know how much it costs in American > money?? and what time span am I looking at?? I didnt have time to go > through the whole site but it appears you could make requests directly from > this site? I am anxious to obtain these documents, unless it is cost > prohibitive of course...anyway it is so great to have these records on hand > to use and search through. > Thanks so much! > Lenora

Hi Rich, Yes please. I wouldn't expect them to do any research for me, but if they could point me in the right direction for records from the periods I am looking at, it would be most appreciated. Regards, Penny

Hi Dick, Many thanks for checking for me. If I get lucky enough to get as far back as your source, I will be thrilled!!! I have now begun to focus on Martinique, so hope I make some progress once I understand the various sources available. Also thanks for the info on Edwin Alcee. You did send me that a while ago now (must be 2 years or so) and at the time I did not have a connection, as the only Edwin I was aware of was a couple of generations out. However, I do now know the Edwin Alcee you have. He is part of another branch of the family, who I am now in touch with. Much appreciated. Regards, Penny

Looking for info on Emma Shelley. She married Henry Worms (Whorms). I believe her madien name was Douglas(?) . Anyone with info please help. Thank You Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Hi Penny, My source for Martinique census records covers only the 1600s thru abt 1730, and none of your names of interest appear. The only name even close is a Flamand BERNES, 35y, in the 1680 census (while your BERNEZ family was, I gather, still in France). Nevertheless, BERNES is in the Compagnie du Sr. DE VERPRE and resides in the house of Pierre ALBERT & family. (In the index, the name BERNES is followed by "N!" I can't find an explanation for this in the book, and my French is too poor for me to infer what it might mean.) I do have an Edwin ALCEE who was a witness at the 1902 marriage in Castries, St. Lucia between my wife's granduncle James DE JORNA and Wilhelmina LEVEXIER. Sorry I wasn't able to be more helpful. Regards, Dick in Princeton, NJ

Hi Penny, I have just been in touch with some-one who has just returned from Paris, doing research on Martinique records. Let me know if you would like me to pass on your email. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <PennyKilbane@aol.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: Martinique & St.Lucia - SYLVESTRE, BERNEZ & ALCEE Hi Dick, Philippe and Karen (please see note to you at the end of this mail), I noted with great interest the discussions between Karen Lombard, Dick Meyers and Philippe Rossignol on St.Lucia and Martinique families. So far I have focused my research primarily on St.Lucia and have gone through a number of LDS films etc. However, I have not yet started to look at Martinique, which is where I hope you can help, if you are able and have the time to do a couple of look-ups for me. Otherwise any advice would be most appreciated, to get me moving in the right direction. Here are my areas of interest: 1) Uranie-Pierre SYLVESTRE, born Ducos, Martinique. I have no DOB, but she was married in St.Lucia in 1871 (to Samuel BERNEZ), so estimate born 1840 to 1850? 2) Samuel BERNEZ, born in France, but residing in Martinique around 1860. 3) ALCEE (Alcée). I have very little information, but understand that there were two brothers who came to St.Lucia 1740 to 1780 from Martinique (originally from France). 4) Rene Louis MORTEAU. In St.Lucia the mid to late 1700''s. Not sure whether there is a connection with Martinique here. Karen, We've been in touch before, as we both research the name BONNETT / BONNET. Please note that on the LDS film 1093929 ~ 1764 there are a lot of DE BERNARDS. Also on the same film there are lots of BONNETS in Soufriere ~ 1751 to 1788 (I have no detail, but just made a brief note on some surnames I recognised). Looking forward to your response, Many thanks in advance, Penny ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "panton" <panton@telus.net> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: Re: PRO > You need to use a credit card and it is transmitted to you in orignal handwritting (scribble in some cases and illegible) immediately > > The cost is three britsh pounds per will. One pound is about US $1.50-$2 dependant on the exchange rate the day and time you purchase > > Have fun -- have done this in past and found a tresure trove -- other times wasted my $$ or the info on what island was referred to was > incorrect (in that case they gave me my $$ back) > > > Lenora Anderson wrote: > > > Dear Lisa,, and what a dear you are.. I have not done and research in PRO > > yet but I thought I would take a look.. by putting in Surnames only of the > > main family members I needed to see.. I was amazed as the first page that > > came up listed my grandfathers Will of 1675, followed by about five others > > in his lineage I believe! What are the aproximate costs of a Will,( > > Amercian money), as I have five I need, and what time frame am I > > looking into for receiving them??? > > THANKS! > > > > Lenora > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lisa" <ljj5@optonline.net> > > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:58 PM > > Subject: PRO > > > > > The Public Records Offices has changed it's online doc center to > > > http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk/ > > > > > > and have recently added a bunch of wills. By typing in a county name the > > > search was quite successful - Barbados - 600+ entries, and Grenada 155. > > > The 3 L charge works with Visa and you the have 7 days to view/download to > > > pdf - Acrobat. Lisa > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > > What is a Mailing List? > > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked

Lisa.. thank you so much.. I have not done searches in UK much as I don't have enough iformation regards certain families.. Thought I would look any way. Imagine my surprise when I did the Quick search for Wills and on the first page up came the ancestors of my mothers family from the 1600's! so of course I did Quick search for the other familys and I find that there are possibly many of mine there.. Thanks! In sending away for the Wills, how do I know how much it costs in American money?? and what time span am I looking at?? I didnt have time to go through the whole site but it appears you could make requests directly from this site? I am anxious to obtain these documents, unless it is cost prohibitive of course...anyway it is so great to have these records on hand to use and search through. Thanks so much! Lenora

Hi Dick, Philippe and Karen (please see note to you at the end of this mail), I noted with great interest the discussions between Karen Lombard, Dick Meyers and Philippe Rossignol on St.Lucia and Martinique families. So far I have focused my research primarily on St.Lucia and have gone through a number of LDS films etc. However, I have not yet started to look at Martinique, which is where I hope you can help, if you are able and have the time to do a couple of look-ups for me. Otherwise any advice would be most appreciated, to get me moving in the right direction. Here are my areas of interest: 1) Uranie-Pierre SYLVESTRE, born Ducos, Martinique. I have no DOB, but she was married in St.Lucia in 1871 (to Samuel BERNEZ), so estimate born 1840 to 1850? 2) Samuel BERNEZ, born in France, but residing in Martinique around 1860. 3) ALCEE (Alcée). I have very little information, but understand that there were two brothers who came to St.Lucia 1740 to 1780 from Martinique (originally from France). 4) Rene Louis MORTEAU. In St.Lucia the mid to late 1700''s. Not sure whether there is a connection with Martinique here. Karen, We've been in touch before, as we both research the name BONNETT / BONNET. Please note that on the LDS film 1093929 ~ 1764 there are a lot of DE BERNARDS. Also on the same film there are lots of BONNETS in Soufriere ~ 1751 to 1788 (I have no detail, but just made a brief note on some surnames I recognised). Looking forward to your response, Many thanks in advance, Penny

You need to use a credit card and it is transmitted to you in orignal handwritting (scribble in some cases and illegible) immediately The cost is three britsh pounds per will. One pound is about US $1.50-$2 dependant on the exchange rate the day and time you purchase Have fun -- have done this in past and found a tresure trove -- other times wasted my $$ or the info on what island was referred to was incorrect (in that case they gave me my $$ back) Lenora Anderson wrote: > Dear Lisa,, and what a dear you are.. I have not done and research in PRO > yet but I thought I would take a look.. by putting in Surnames only of the > main family members I needed to see.. I was amazed as the first page that > came up listed my grandfathers Will of 1675, followed by about five others > in his lineage I believe! What are the aproximate costs of a Will,( > Amercian money), as I have five I need, and what time frame am I > looking into for receiving them??? > THANKS! > > Lenora > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa" <ljj5@optonline.net> > To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:58 PM > Subject: PRO > > > The Public Records Offices has changed it's online doc center to > > http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk/ > > > > and have recently added a bunch of wills. By typing in a county name the > > search was quite successful - Barbados - 600+ entries, and Grenada 155. > > The 3 L charge works with Visa and you the have 7 days to view/download to > > pdf - Acrobat. Lisa > > > > > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > > What is a Mailing List? > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/

Dear Lisa,, and what a dear you are.. I have not done and research in PRO yet but I thought I would take a look.. by putting in Surnames only of the main family members I needed to see.. I was amazed as the first page that came up listed my grandfathers Will of 1675, followed by about five others in his lineage I believe! What are the aproximate costs of a Will,( Amercian money), as I have five I need, and what time frame am I looking into for receiving them??? THANKS! Lenora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa" <ljj5@optonline.net> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: PRO > The Public Records Offices has changed it's online doc center to > http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk/ > > and have recently added a bunch of wills. By typing in a county name the > search was quite successful - Barbados - 600+ entries, and Grenada 155. > The 3 L charge works with Visa and you the have 7 days to view/download to > pdf - Acrobat. Lisa > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html

Thanks Laura. Actually they allow any-one to look up the documents with the usual precautions against damage to the materials. You have to discuss the nature of your research with the staff before beginning. No food and drink allowed, no ink pens. Cameras are allowed but no flash. Photcopying of bound material not allowed. Much of the material is in old German script, so one will have to get some-one who understands old German, and even most young Germans don't. They can do a look-up for you and this will cost $50, every time you ask. Any detailed research has to be negotiated in relation to cost. Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Alderson" <lwa101@bellsouth.net> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Moravian documents > My great great grandmother from St. Croix and her brother attended the > Moravian schools in Bethlehem and Nazareth in the 1840s.Several years > ago, the keepers of the records in Bethlehem were very helpful in > confirming the years they attended, etc. If I am not mistaken, the > records are in old German script, though I have not seen them myself. I > am not certain who is allowed to view the actual documents themselves, > but the people I asked were super in their help and very fast. > > Happy hunting, > Laura in NC > > > On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 08:25 PM, > CARIBBEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> > > Date: Thu May 15, 2003 11:20:46 PM US/Eastern > > To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Moravian Caribbean Records > > > > > > Hi Ann, > > > > Thanks for all the info. You are making a good case for offering Dean > > your > > services to do the write-up for the Caribbean Gen Web site. > > > > Meanwhile, I have heard from the Archives in Winston-Salem, North > > Carolina. > > They are referring me back to Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Because of this > > and > > in the light of what you and Ernest has just written, the documents > > are most > > likely there, so I may have been rather premature in my expectation. > > > > I would prefer to get a copy or notes on the contents of the document > > mentioned by Ernest before > > thinking of going there, or asking some-one to go there or even asking > > the > > Archivist there about the documents. > > > > Best regards, > > Richard. > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Hi Ann, Thanks again. Looking forward to see what you and James can dig up. I do recall using a general book some years ago that dealt with all the Missionary efforts in the Caribbean, South and Central America. There was some material in there on the Moravians. I will have to go through my files and look-up that book again. Meanwhile I have also written the Moravian Archives in Germany. I will see what they have to say. Cheers! Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Whiting" <aqw8326@hotmail.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Moravian archive websites > Those sites, have only mention of the caribbean missions, it does not have > the and a few names of the Moravian Brethren that were sent to the > caribbean, there is no mention of the black members, marriages, > christenings, deaths or dates, I could not find any information on the > actual history of the caribbean churches. > Prof. Highfield has done some work with this, and I am reaching out to him, > will post as soon as I have something. > Ann > > "Sharing the information." > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Hi Camilla-Marlene, I have heard from Ivan. He says that records of the Ships Tickets issued comes right down to the present, and that copies can be obtained from the PRO. If you have an actual Ships Ticket and you have a scanner, can you send a copy of your ancestor's so I can see what an actual one looks like. I can send you what a copy looks like. I also have a link to website that has a 56 page document of Danish/Dutch West Indian archival material. Let me now if you have seen it. If not I can send the link to you. Regards, Richard.

Dorothy, This is extremely useful! Just what I need to get more and more results and satisfaction from my research. Thank you very much. BTW, how was your trip to Jamaica? I'll get back to you directly, in the near furture. Best regards, Jan Bousse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Kew" <dkew1@ca.inter.net> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: Article on searching the Internet with Google > Hi Listers: > > The following is an item I found in an online genealogy newsletter. I hope > you'll find it useful. > > Dorothy > > Article on Using the Google Search Engine for Genealogy > > Kimberly Powell, a professional genealogist and member of the Association of > Professional Genealogists has written on article on how to use the Google > search engine. It is located at > http://genealogy.about.com/library/weekly/aa052902a.htm > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > > >

Those sites, have only mention of the caribbean missions, it does not have the and a few names of the Moravian Brethren that were sent to the caribbean, there is no mention of the black members, marriages, christenings, deaths or dates, I could not find any information on the actual history of the caribbean churches. Prof. Highfield has done some work with this, and I am reaching out to him, will post as soon as I have something. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

There is useful information on the holdings and research conditions on the Moravian church websites: Northern Province, Bethlehem - http://www.moravianchurcharchives.org/ Southern Province, Winston-Salem - http://moravianarchives.org/ Guy Grannum

Hi Listers: The following is an item I found in an online genealogy newsletter. I hope you'll find it useful. Dorothy Article on Using the Google Search Engine for Genealogy ======================================================= The Internet is one big encyclopedia if you know how to find the information being sought. This is especially true of genealogical research. What databases are on the web relating to my family history research? How do I order records from the British Public Records office? Is there any information on my ancestral towns? One of the best search engines is Google at http://www.google.com. Using a search engine is a skill. Often you must judiciously choose key words to assure that sites of interest to you appear on the first page of the search results. Kimberly Powell, a professional genealogist and member of the Association of Professional Genealogists has written on article on how to use the Google search engine. It is located at http://genealogy.about.com/library/weekly/aa052902a.htm

Dorothy,, thanks you so much.. I am at a dead end in my searches.. maybe there are more options here...Thanks! Lenora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Kew" <dkew1@ca.inter.net> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 6:24 AM Subject: Article on searching the Internet with Google > Hi Listers: > > The following is an item I found in an online genealogy newsletter. I hope > you'll find it useful. > > Dorothy > > Article on Using the Google Search Engine for Genealogy > ======================================================= > The Internet is one big encyclopedia if you know how to find the information > being sought. This is especially true of genealogical research. What > databases are on the web relating to my family history research? How do I > order records from the British Public Records office? Is there any > information on my ancestral towns? > > One of the best search engines is Google at http://www.google.com. Using a > search engine is a skill. Often you must judiciously choose key words to > assure that sites of interest to you appear on the first page of the search > results. > > Kimberly Powell, a professional genealogist and member of the Association of > Professional Genealogists has written on article on how to use the Google > search engine. It is located at > http://genealogy.about.com/library/weekly/aa052902a.htm > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/

The Public Records Offices has changed it's online doc center to http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk/ and have recently added a bunch of wills. By typing in a county name the search was quite successful - Barbados - 600+ entries, and Grenada 155. The 3 L charge works with Visa and you the have 7 days to view/download to pdf - Acrobat. Lisa