My baby sister married a Newfie Saunders. His name is Richard Darryl Saunders. I believe his father was Adam Saunders. If you wish, I can see if i can get any info from him to see if there is a connection. I guess "screech" may not be the only Jamaican export to Newfoundland. Tony Figueroa Dean de Freitas <caribgw@bellsouth.net> wrote:Along the same lines, I happen to have a VERY small connection the the Saunders of NF. One of the NF Winters in the peripheral branches of my tree married a Saunders. Jane Mary Winter, born abt 1802, died in Quebec City, Quebec on 29 Jul 1882; she was 80. Jane Mary married John William Saunders. Jane Mary was a daughter of George Winter, my GGGG Grandfather. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony figueroa" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Family in Jamaica > Hi Jim, > Do you have any connection to the Saunders family in Newfoundland? > Tony Figueroa > > > > Jim Saunders wrote:I'm new to genealogy and I'm looking for leads to Saunders and Phillippo > families in Jamaica. Have information on the Saunders Family in Canada. > > Jim > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES What is a Mailing List? http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html Researching FIGUEROA,WHORMS, DEPASS, ABSALOM, INNERARITY, MARKS(MARQUES), RITCHIE from Jamaica, CARVALHO from Jamaica, Brooks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Along the same lines, I happen to have a VERY small connection the the Saunders of NF. One of the NF Winters in the peripheral branches of my tree married a Saunders. Jane Mary Winter, born abt 1802, died in Quebec City, Quebec on 29 Jul 1882; she was 80. Jane Mary married John William Saunders. Jane Mary was a daughter of George Winter, my GGGG Grandfather. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony figueroa" <tfiggytoo@yahoo.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Family in Jamaica > Hi Jim, > Do you have any connection to the Saunders family in Newfoundland? > Tony Figueroa > > > > Jim Saunders <Jim-Saunders@shaw.ca> wrote:I'm new to genealogy and I'm looking for leads to Saunders and Phillippo > families in Jamaica. Have information on the Saunders Family in Canada. > > Jim > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Hi Listers, Further to the information on the Moravian Records from the West Indies - FHL INTL Film 1162485 Item 5. There is NO detailed information on individuals in the 13 pages. It is about the condition and collection of Moravian records in the West Indies. The only people mentioned are the Moravian Bishops, Ministers, and their wives visited on the various Islands in the mid 1960's. No records are included but there is a Bibliography of Moravian and other records which may be of interest. "A SELECT BIBLIOGRAPHY E.C. Baker. A GUIDE TO RECORDS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. Basil Blackwell: Oxford, 1965. 102 pp. Contains descriptions of the Antigua and St. Kitts records which are now located in Bethlehem. M.J. Chandler. A GUIDE TO RECORDS IN BARBADOS. Basil Blackwell: Oxford, 1965. 204 pp. Contains descriptions of the Moravian records on Barbados. Also contains a list of the Moravian records which have been microfilmed. G. Oliver Maynard. A HISTORY OF THE MORAVIAN CHURCH, EASTERN WEST INDIES PROVINCE. Yuille's Printerie Limited: Port-of-Spain, Trinidad, 1968. 175 pp. The first comprehensive study of the Moravian Church in the Eastern West Indies. Vernon H. Nelson. "Samuel Isles, First Moravian Missionary on Antigua" in TRANSACTIONS OF THE MORAVIAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY, Volume XXI, Part 1. Nazareth, Pa., 1966. pp. 2-27. A lecture delivered at the 1965 Annual Vesper of the Moravian Historical Society. W.J. Plumbe. THE PRESERVATION OP BOOKS IN TROPICAL AND SUB-TROPICAL COUNTRIES. Oxford University Press: Hong Kong and London, 1964. 72 pp. An excellent treatment of what can be done to protect books in the tropics. REPORT OF THE CARIBBEAN ARCHIVES CONFERENCE held at the University of the West Indies, Mona, Jamaica, September 20-27, 1965. Under the joint Sponsorship of the Government of Jamaica and the University of the West Indies. 510 pp. The most comprehensive treatment available concerning records Brad record-keeping in the Caribbean." I have seen the last item on a LDS film - very long and detailed. The E.C. Baker item is of interest as apparently his Windward Guide has reference to some CROPPERANA on St. Vincent. Some ended up it the UWI in Mona, Jamaica - the rest unknown. Jim C.

Hello Jim, Is there any information on Hansen Family, St Thomas; Ruan and Heyliger Families, St Croix? Thanks in advance, Hilda.

Hi Jim, Do you have any connection to the Saunders family in Newfoundland? Tony Figueroa Jim Saunders <Jim-Saunders@shaw.ca> wrote:I'm new to genealogy and I'm looking for leads to Saunders and Phillippo families in Jamaica. Have information on the Saunders Family in Canada. Jim ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

I am delighted to be back with my friends from Caribbean-L rootsweb.com as I was turned off after we moved to tesco.net. We are going out to Anguilla this Friday so if anyone has any messages to give to anyone out there who hasn;t got the Internet bug, this is your opportunity. Does anyone out there have any knowledge of a Jewish community /synagogue of any kind, in Anguilla or St Maartens please? Sadie Weiss ----- Original Message ----- From: "James W Cropper" <jameswcropper@sympatico.ca> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: Moravian Records from the West Indies > Hi Listers, > > Regarding the information on the Moravian Records from the West Indies - FHL INTL Film 1162485 Item 5. There is bad news and good news! Bad news - I made no notes on the film. Good news - I made hard copies of the 13 pages! Too much detail to provide to the List especially the day after a long weekend here in Canada. > > Vernon H. NELSON, Archivist, made an illustrated lecture on "Records From The West Indies" on 23 Nov 1968 and this must have been his handout. Additional info appears to be added in Feb 1969 as he notes to "The Archives of the Moravian Church, Bethlehem" and "something wrong with duplicating method". There were 38 slides mainly taken by the author with additional ones by Robert T. BROWN, Treasurer of the Archives and not included. > > He and his wife Jane left for the Islands 27 Dec 1965 to take inventory for 3 weeks. They visited St. Thomas, St. Croix, Antigua, and Barbados finding records in various states of condition. Bottom line is - by Jan 1968, they retrieved 69 cartons in 8 shipments of materials from Antigua, St. Kitts, St. Croix and St. Thomas. Barbados records left at the Lazaretto Building, Black Rock, St. Michael with agreement to receive microfilm copy. Unsure how they obtained St. Kitts. Unsure of his maths as he has total weight 749 KG, or somewhat less than a ton! > > He says :- "The chronological scope of the records is great; it starts about 1730 and continues almost to the present (1968). Some series of the records have long gaps; others are relatively complete." > > Additional information can be provided if of interest. > > Jim C. > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ >

From Eastman's Onlline Genealogy Newsletter for May 19, 2003. - Spammer Arrested, Charged With Felony Howard Carmack, the notorious "Buffalo Spammer" accused of sending more than 825 million unsolicited e-mails from illegal EarthLink accounts, has been arrested and arraigned in New York on four felony and two misdemeanor counts. New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer heralded the case as the first criminal prosecution of a spammer under New York's six-month-old identity-theft statute. "Spammers who forge documents and steal the identity of others to create their e-mail traffic will be prosecuted," Spitzer said at a press conference. Attorney General Spitzer stated that his office will seek jail time for this spammer. You can read more about this at: http://boston.internet.com/news/article.php/2206311 To discuss this story further, please visit the newsletter Discussion Board at http://www.RootsForum.com and click on "Discussio Board"

Ok folks, thanks for all the info on the viruses, spam etc., but let's get back on topic shall we? Dean

Hi Heather, And don't forget file-sharing portals for viruses. Also it seems almost the case that just visiting any website would attract subsequent spam. But maybe there is some hope yet. I will the link to a story about one guy who is being prosecuted in the US for sending out 825 million spam mail. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Figueroa" <heatherfig@rogers.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re: A real virus warning > Hi Richard..... > > I agree with you 100%. I fought with Sprint Canada for a couple of > years over putting in antivirus measures......and got nowhere. I am now > on Rogers cable and have learned from my past mistakes. I still have > Sprint dialup on here and every day get a minimum of 20-30 porn and spam > emails.......I use Mailwasher to delete them. (www.mailwasher.com) > > My mistake was naivete!! I used my Sprint address on news groups and > when signing up for things. Never again!! I now use (as Ann Whiting > does) a Hotmail address for everything. I check it every day for real > questions, but get some spam. > > In other words.......NEVER use your personal email address anywhere on > the 'net. Spambots continually roam thru the news groups and gather > them up. Unfortunately, this List is gatewayed to the > soc.genealogy.west-indies news group and I get the occasional one thru > that 'hole in the dyke'. But short of changing my return address every > time I post to this List, there is nothing I can do about it. > > Just following up......and another thought. I report all spam I receive > via Rogers thru www.spamcop.net and they dig down and get the REAL ISP > and send a letter of reproof to them. It is a free service and I have > used it for years. It is completely anonymous. > > Just a couple of tips to stay ahead of those durned spammers.......grin. > > Cheers.........Heather > List Admin - ENG-CUL > http://www.british-genealogy.com > > Researching FIGUEROA, RITCHIE, COOPER, McINTOSH and TOUZALIN in > Jamaica..... > And BOWNESS and ALLANBY in Cumberland, England. > > > Hi Heather, > > > > Thanks for the input. I was more interested in spreading preventative > > computer practices in regard to viruses, rather than bashing either > ISPs > > which do not install anti-virus shields, or implicating companies > which > > produce anti-virus soft-ware. > > > > Richard > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > >

Hi James. Thanks. Every detail helps, beginning with knowing what is where. I was hoping for a more detailed Chronological and Geographical break-down. But this is a start, and it is clear that most/all the Moravian Church records from 1730-1968, for St. Croix, St. Thomas, St. Kitts, Antigua and Barbados (the last probably in micro-film) is in the city of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Moravian Church Archives. Since much of the older documents can be expected to be fragile and would not have stood up to even a few uses, I wonder if the Bethlehem folks went ahead and micro-filmed the most fragile ones? I hope they did it seeing that they have had it for over 30 years. This would make access that much easier. The math in regard to the boxes, comes out at 11kgs. per box. Not unreasonable, since I am sure at least half the weight would be of the box itself. Thanks again. Please let me know if the lecture/photocopy that you have includes more Geographical and Chronological detail/breakdowns. Cheers!!!! Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "James W Cropper" <jameswcropper@sympatico.ca> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Moravian Records from the West Indies > Hi Listers, > > Further to the information on the Moravian Records from the West Indies - FHL INTL Film 1162485 Item 5. There is NO detailed information on individuals in the 13 pages. It is about the condition and collection of Moravian records in the West Indies. No records are included but he says :- > > "WHAT DO THESE RECORDS CONSIST OF? > I brought along a few items to illustrate the type of thing that is here. I would have liked to bring more, but unfortunately much of the West Indies material is fragile and should not be handled unless necessary. > 1. Rules of the Mission in Santa Cruz [St. Croix], adopted 1860. There are similar books of rules for most of the missions. > 2. Diary, Friedensberg [Frederiksted], St. Croix, started October 1, 1922. Of course there are earlier diaries of the conventional type, but this one illustrates the combined service book-diary type, in which the minister "filled in the blanks" in a pre-printed format. > 3. Cassa Book, Friedensthal [Christiansted], St. Croix, 1841-1845. This is typical of many books dealing with financial matters. > 4. Plantation Book, Male, about 1835, St. Croix. This book lists the men according to the plantations to which they belonged. From the plantation books and from the church registers and catalogs one can determine the African (or other) origin of most of the members, where they lived, who they married (often someone on a different plantation). who their children were, and, frequently, where they moved to. > The chronological scope of the records is great; it starts about 1730 and continues almost to the present. Some series of records have long gaps; others are relatively complete." > > Jim C. > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Hi Ann, Thanks, let's hope that the Caribbean records have the same level of detail. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Whiting" <aqw8326@hotmail.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Moravian Caribbean Records, Herrnhutt Germany > Richard and All, > > Now that Richard have me back on the Moravian trek, I have been going > through the bits and pieces of my files and documents for possible leads to > obtaining the documents. > I found an extraction I copied and it reminded me why I started the pursuit > of these records. > > For those of us who want to make the 'African Connection' this is an example > of what can be found in their records. > > In 1762 the Following: Marriage Register. > > Jan .21 ANDREAS, a Negro from Ibo, Guinea, W. Africa; he was > presented to Spangenberg by Thomas Noble of New York; d Apr. 13, > 1779 in Bethlehem. > MAGDALENA, a Negress from Popo, Guinea. > By Brother Nathanael > > Ann > "Sharing the information." > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html > >

Hello, I am deep into the Streeper family research. My research tells me that an Isaac Streaper went to the West Indies in 1796. He would have been about 19 years old. He may have had some money to buy property. His family was of Quaker heritage and of German/Dutch/Palatine descent. Later, his brother, Richard, is a confectioner, not a baker, at the port of Philadelphia. It sounds like he handled sugar. How could I learn more about Isaac? Streeper can be spelled many ways. This branch of the family spelled it Streaper most often. Thanks so much for any help or advice that anyone can give. Sincerely yours, Joan Higgins

Hi Listers, Further to the information on the Moravian Records from the West Indies - FHL INTL Film 1162485 Item 5. There is NO detailed information on individuals in the 13 pages. It is about the condition and collection of Moravian records in the West Indies. No records are included but he says :- "WHAT DO THESE RECORDS CONSIST OF? I brought along a few items to illustrate the type of thing that is here. I would have liked to bring more, but unfortunately much of the West Indies material is fragile and should not be handled unless necessary. 1. Rules of the Mission in Santa Cruz [St. Croix], adopted 1860. There are similar books of rules for most of the missions. 2. Diary, Friedensberg [Frederiksted], St. Croix, started October 1, 1922. Of course there are earlier diaries of the conventional type, but this one illustrates the combined service book-diary type, in which the minister "filled in the blanks" in a pre-printed format. 3. Cassa Book, Friedensthal [Christiansted], St. Croix, 1841-1845. This is typical of many books dealing with financial matters. 4. Plantation Book, Male, about 1835, St. Croix. This book lists the men according to the plantations to which they belonged. From the plantation books and from the church registers and catalogs one can determine the African (or other) origin of most of the members, where they lived, who they married (often someone on a different plantation). who their children were, and, frequently, where they moved to. The chronological scope of the records is great; it starts about 1730 and continues almost to the present. Some series of records have long gaps; others are relatively complete." Jim C.

Hi Jim, If there is anything pertaining to JOHNSON in Antigua, in particular Richmond James Johnson or Samuel Bott Johnson, I would appreciate your passing along any info. Thanks, David (Bladen)

Hi Richard..... I agree with you 100%. I fought with Sprint Canada for a couple of years over putting in antivirus measures......and got nowhere. I am now on Rogers cable and have learned from my past mistakes. I still have Sprint dialup on here and every day get a minimum of 20-30 porn and spam emails.......I use Mailwasher to delete them. (www.mailwasher.com) My mistake was naivete!! I used my Sprint address on news groups and when signing up for things. Never again!! I now use (as Ann Whiting does) a Hotmail address for everything. I check it every day for real questions, but get some spam. In other words.......NEVER use your personal email address anywhere on the 'net. Spambots continually roam thru the news groups and gather them up. Unfortunately, this List is gatewayed to the soc.genealogy.west-indies news group and I get the occasional one thru that 'hole in the dyke'. But short of changing my return address every time I post to this List, there is nothing I can do about it. Just following up......and another thought. I report all spam I receive via Rogers thru www.spamcop.net and they dig down and get the REAL ISP and send a letter of reproof to them. It is a free service and I have used it for years. It is completely anonymous. Just a couple of tips to stay ahead of those durned spammers.......grin. Cheers.........Heather List Admin - ENG-CUL http://www.british-genealogy.com Researching FIGUEROA, RITCHIE, COOPER, McINTOSH and TOUZALIN in Jamaica..... And BOWNESS and ALLANBY in Cumberland, England. > Hi Heather, > > Thanks for the input. I was more interested in spreading preventative > computer practices in regard to viruses, rather than bashing either ISPs > which do not install anti-virus shields, or implicating companies which > produce anti-virus soft-ware. > > Richard

Hi Listers, Regarding the information on the Moravian Records from the West Indies - FHL INTL Film 1162485 Item 5. There is bad news and good news! Bad news - I made no notes on the film. Good news - I made hard copies of the 13 pages! Too much detail to provide to the List especially the day after a long weekend here in Canada. Vernon H. NELSON, Archivist, made an illustrated lecture on "Records From The West Indies" on 23 Nov 1968 and this must have been his handout. Additional info appears to be added in Feb 1969 as he notes to "The Archives of the Moravian Church, Bethlehem" and "something wrong with duplicating method". There were 38 slides mainly taken by the author with additional ones by Robert T. BROWN, Treasurer of the Archives and not included. He and his wife Jane left for the Islands 27 Dec 1965 to take inventory for 3 weeks. They visited St. Thomas, St. Croix, Antigua, and Barbados finding records in various states of condition. Bottom line is - by Jan 1968, they retrieved 69 cartons in 8 shipments of materials from Antigua, St. Kitts, St. Croix and St. Thomas. Barbados records left at the Lazaretto Building, Black Rock, St. Michael with agreement to receive microfilm copy. Unsure how they obtained St. Kitts. Unsure of his maths as he has total weight 749 KG, or somewhat less than a ton! He says :- "The chronological scope of the records is great; it starts about 1730 and continues almost to the present (1968). Some series of the records have long gaps; others are relatively complete." Additional information can be provided if of interest. Jim C.

Thank you, Tian- it's certainly worth a shot. Regards, Dick in Princeton, NJ -------------------- > Although the book you asked about is out of print, it is available for > consultation at some libraries in North America. > I was able to use it awhile ago by inter-library loan through my local > public library. Ideally, put together all the publication info you have > and go talk to the librarian, usually in History or Government sections. > I think the copy I used came from Univ. of FL. > I had to pay a fee to the lending library, but it was minimal.

Richard and All, Now that Richard have me back on the Moravian trek, I have been going through the bits and pieces of my files and documents for possible leads to obtaining the documents. I found an extraction I copied and it reminded me why I started the pursuit of these records. For those of us who want to make the 'African Connection' this is an example of what can be found in their records. In 1762 the Following: Marriage Register. Jan .21 ANDREAS, a Negro from Ibo, Guinea, W. Africa; he was presented to Spangenberg by Thomas Noble of New York; d Apr. 13, 1779 in Bethlehem. MAGDALENA, a Negress from Popo, Guinea. By Brother Nathanael Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I use hotmail, and it checks any incoming mail with attachment with McAfee, it will quarantine anything with a virus, germ or cold, and send me a message. It also allows me to crate a 'contact list' for the people I want to hear form, the rest goes into the'junk folder' so I can weed/delete or designate a 'contact' It also scans my outgoing mail with an attachment and notify the receiver with a McAfee note that it has been checked and is virus-free. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Bonjour Hard for me to explain in english. I shall try. Tables décennales : for ech town or parish lists in alphabetic order (1st letter) of acts (Birth or Batism, marriage, death or burial) with type of act (N = naisssance birth, M mariage, D = Décès death or S sépulture burial), the name with or without first name, the date (DDMMYYYY) and the page were the record is (folio Recto or Verso sometimes). One list covers 10 years. One film of tables décennales covers often 2 or 3 or more towns or parishes. In french colonies (West Indies for example) the registers were written by catholic priest only before Révolution. In France l'état civil (civic state) starts in 1792. In West Indies later : Guadeloupe 1793 and Martiniquie 1812 (or around) because the english occupation. Year 1776 Louis XVI asked for all the old registers be copied and the copies sent to Versailles. But... hurricanes and others earthquake had destroyed some registers. The priests who must copy the acts have or not do the job. It is the reason why registers of Guadeloupe are oldest than those of Martinique. You can look at http://members.aol.com/GHCaraibe/geo/communes.html Sorry this page is in french. If somebody could translate... So for a search you must start with films of tables décennales, note the pages of acts and go to th film containing the acts. What are the problems encountered ? About Tables décennales which were made years after the copies of registers. 1° Some acts are missing in the tables particularly for free colored people (Remenber the registers do not have acts of slaves) 2° The tables were made fom some registers now losts and the pages' number is not corresponding to the registers available. 3° Some names are mispelled, even the first letter 4° You must look at each part of names eg : REVERCHON de LA CROIX look at R, D, L and C If the person you are looking for has only first names you have to look at each first letter eg : Uranie Pierre Moyse : look at U, P and M About Acts 1°) A lot of missing acts 2°) The copist had not copy all the act : lines are missing. 3°) The copist has replaced a name by an other 4°) The copist had tried to copy what he read without understandins the meaning. You must read aloud to understand. Last thing : In the films some pages are missing or unreadable I do not know the references of LDS films because they have been renumbered in the french Archives. After the acts you have to look at "notariat". Have a good time and go to Martinique or Aix en Provence in the "old european country" (:-((( Philippe Rossignol Dans l'article <19d.151c4849.2bf94063@aol.com>, PennyKilbane@aol.coma écrit : > >I think the "tables décennales" are the civic / state records (rather than >Church records), is this correct? I looked on the family search web site and >found thousands of records for films related to "tables décennales". Could >you guide me a little further please? > >Where do I find the references to the films of the "tables décennales" where >I can search to order the correct one from the LDS? Is there anywhere else >that I should be looking? >