Listers, With permission of the writer, I am posting this short account of naming patterns in Portugal at present. The writer is D. Kleber, and it was posted at Madeira Exiles -L I found it informative. Tian In answer to the question: "Can someone explain a bit about Portuguese naming patterns?" D. Kleber replies: In Portugal/Madeira: 1. Multiple surnames are common. Two or three is normal. One surname is odd. I don't know anyone with just one surname up here in Northern Portugal. I have a 29 year old friend named Isabel Maria dos Santos Barbosa de Oliveira Lopes Pereira da Silva. (Pereira da Silva comes from her husband.) Her family is from Lisbon. 2. If I am not mistaken, prior to 1920 it wasn't even a legal requirement to have a surname. (circa 1920 "Regulamento relativo à identificação dos portadores de Bilhete de Identidade) That is, your legal name could just be MARIA... and nothing else. After 1920, once you either reached adulthood or requested an official document, you had to "choose" a family name. It could be any of the surnames that your family had carried and/or given you. Using the example above, you can see that if Isabel was one of your relatives AND the others had names like hers then you had many choices for your own, personal family name: It could be Barbosa, it could be Barbosa de Oliveira, perhaps just Lopes, etc, etc. 3. It was, and is, common for mothers to give their children their surnames as well as their father's surname. Thus the usual minimum of two surnames. Often they also throw in some other favorite surname from a grandparent. 4. Devotional names are popular, too. Maria das Dores (literally Mary of the Pains, one of my personal favorites), Ana de Conceição, Maria de Jesus, Maria dos Santos... These devotional names are used in addition to surnames. 5. The de/do/da isn't really part of the name, unless it is sandwiched between two other names. That is, "de Freitas" is officially just "Freitas" (But "Nunes de Viveiros" is officially "Nunes de Viveiros.") 6. Nowadays it seems that siblings up here in Northern Portugal *USUALLY* all have the same "main" (usually the father's?) surname, as well as a few other surnames which may vary between siblings. In the old days, siblings could, and did, have totally different surnames. That is, no common surname was required among all siblings. 7. UPON ENTERING AMERICA: (a) most Exiles chose to use just one of their surnames. Our "Nunes de Viveiros" became NUNES in America, even though, on Madeira, Nunes de Viveiros identified a very specific family group... very different from someone named just Nunes. (b) Sometimes the "de/da/do" was incorporated into the surname. DeFreitas = de Freitas. (c) And, of course, the spellings often changed considerably. This can all be very confusing but I hope that this helps somewhat. In a subsequent posting, the question was asked "Why would syblings of the same family have different surnames?" The reply from D. Kleber: I can only give you my opinion, because I don't "know" the reason... In the USA, going back at least two centuries, you can often use a single surname to track your family. It was inherited through the fathers and connoted (varying amounts of) familial importance. Example: My grandfather, after a nasty property dispute, renounced his family and changed his surname. This was considered the gravest insult and says a lot about the depth of dispute. Such was the power of a surname in the USA in the early 1900s. In Portugal, particularly prior to 1920, I get the impression that a surname was used to honor your relatives and/or bless a child. They were not used to "track" a family. You will definitely find siblings with different surnames and you might even find that sometimes your Chris Nunes de Sousa is legally recorded as Chris Nunes or perhaps even Chris Sousa. It makes things tougher for us budding genealogists but it's a lovely idea, once you get used to it. (I think I read somewhere--but I could DEFINITELY be wrong as I can't find/quote a source--that you had to have a family link to any surnamed used. That is, you could give your child a surname from a parent, grandparent, perhaps great-grandparent but not some random surname. Anyone know more about this?)

> ... Richard, in case you don't know this title, i think you'd find it interesting (and anyone else in the medical talk here) - Limeys by Davis Harvie, Sutton Publishing, 2002. It's about the Scottish naval surgeon, James Lind, and his discovery of a cure for scurvy. ... John, thank you for posting these deaths in Grenada from your Scottish notes. I've been trying to pinpoint the number of Dumfries-Galloway-Ayr crowd heading towards St. Vincent to Grenada for awhile and these really help. Thanks. Just for a bit of trivia - John La Grenade's father, Louis, was the first planter to have nutmegs although a "white" planter was later given credit in 1843. best wishes all, Cindy > > Penicillin was not disovered until 1928 by Alexander Fleming. Until > 1942, it was used to treat mainly military injuries. After the Boston > Fire of that year when two hundred people were treated for extensive > burns it came into general use. > > Malaria was long known by the Chinese, East Indians and Egyptians and > mentioned in ancient manuscripts. In 1640 that Cinchona bark was used > by Huan del Vego to treat it, but this was long used by Peruvian > natives to treat fevers. By 1696 Morton gave a detailed description of > it, but no-one yet knew what caused it. By 1717, Lancisi linked it to > poisonous vapours of swamps or bad air, hence the name Malaria. It was > not until between 1880 and 1897 that the parasites were identified, > and linked to the mosquito and to the female anopheles in particular, > and methods developed to identify the parasite and a treatment with > methylene blue proved effective. It was not until between 1928 and > 1944 that compounds were synthesized for treatment malaria and > eradication of mosquitos. > > It was not until literally the turn of the century that Walter Reed, > was certain that it was the aedes egypti mosquito was the vector of > yellow fever. It was not until the 1930's that methods were developed > which enabled the identification of a broad range of viruses that > caused human disease, although from the time of Pasteur it had been > known that some-thing smaller than a bacterium could cause disease. > > Cheers! Richard > > ____ > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > For what they are worth, here are a few deaths relating to > Grenada, > jotted down in Scotland many years ago. > John > > GRENADA DEATHS > > Linton, David Dr died before July 1818; physician in > Grenada; > dau Mary R Linton [d 19.7.1818] was buried Ayr. > [Ayr Auld Kirk] > > Beattie, John died 5 Feb 1773 age 28 'in Grenada', > son of William B in Todhillwood. > [Canonbie Ch MI] > > Beattie, William died 7 Sept 1776 'in Grenada', > son of William B in Todhillwood. > [Canonbie Ch MI] > > Paterson, William died 5 Feb 1812 'planter in the island of > Grenada', > son of William P, merchant in Stirling. > [Dumfries & Galloway Courier 26/5/1812] > > Douglas, John died 31 July 1838 age 36 'in the Island of > Grenada', > eldest son of Robert D [d 17.4.1830 age 57 at Castle > Douglas]. > [Kelton Ch MI] > > Todd, James died 11 Aug 1853 'at Belmont, Grenada' age 44, > 4th son of William T in High Curghie [1774-1863] who died > at Drumore, Mull of Galloway. > [Kirkmaiden Ch MI] > > La Grenade, John died 30 May 1824 in his 17th yr, > son of Louis La Grenade 'of the Island of Grenada' > [Lancaster St Leonard with St Anne Churchyard MI]. > > Telfer, William d 18 Aug 1789 'at Granada..where..interred' > in his 33rd yr. > Some years Surgeon in RN then doctor in Grenada; > son of John Telfer, late tenant in Waulkmilln. > [Westerkirk/Bentpath: Westerkirk Ch MI] > > Wilson, Alexander died 1845 at Retreat Cottage, Grenada in > 37th year, > no date, formerly of Stranraer. > [Wigtown Free Press 1845; 31/07 1f] > > Ritchie, Alexander d 22 Aug 1855 age 34 in Grenada; > late Ch Engineer RMSS Eagle - 'comrades have erected > a stone .. his grave there' > son of William R, tenant in Wiston Mains [d 10.7.1864 age > 76]. > [Wiston Ch MI] >

Hi Cheryl, Did you get Giraud (Grenada) from me or are you on to something new? Also Carpenter Street is all I have for you .... I'd get a phone book and look up Adams, Hazell and Ollivierre and see if any of them have a Carpenter Street address. It was an Adams that gave me that info. If I see him in a couple of weeks I'll inquire further. In the meantime, I'm sure you have this, but I wrote it down anyway (Anglican Church, Bequia): In Loving Memory of John Hercules Hazell who died at the Island of Mustique. 22nd November 1886, and was buried at St. Georges Cathedral, Kingstown, aged 70. In Memoriam Hecules Hazell who died in September 1833 at the age of 84 years, and Elizabeth, his wife, we're among the early settlers in this island. Their son, Hercules Hazell died in September 1848 aged 63 years. and with his parents is buried in this Churchyard. Elizabeth, his wife, died in August 1869, aged 83 years and is buried in St. Georges Churchyard, Kingstown. This tablet is erected to their memory by John H. Hazell in 1876. IF you do the math, Hercules Hazell was born 1749 - won't be on these islands. Hope there's something new here. best wishes, Cindy Marcos - I knew as soon as I hit the "send" button on that British (Scots, English, Irish) doodah, somebody was gonna catch me. Glad it was you, although I'd be disappointed if it'd simply slipped by. Jim - just had a DeFreitas slip through my hands - someone related to Cheryl's info I think - will get back on that as soon as I refind it. I've got to quit trying to clear my desk. I lose things that way! > > pense aussi que l'ancienne famille Ollivierre a un connection avec les > Gerauds/Girauds de Grenade. > > Merci, > > Cheryl Hazell > Toronto > recherche encore Hazell, Ollivierre, Adams > > Cindy, > > Finding my relatives on Carpenter Street is going to be my June > project. > There are literally thousands of Adams in that city. Were you able to > get a > first initial or name for me to start with whom the fellow from Union > will > be visiting? This is going to be exciting I hope! >>

Does anyone have information on the FERGUS surname for Martinique? I know there is/was a FERGUS Mountain on the island, but I believe that it has been destroyed or perhaps is inaccessible due to the pyroclastic flows. Was there a Fergus Plantation in the 1700's or 1800's? If so, where did the folks come from? Ireland? Scotland? Looking for any FERGUS information on Martinique, please! Cynthia N. Russell Researcher, scribe, communicator, keeper-of-FERGUS records! 6113 Edmar Drive Traverse City, MI 49686 TCrussell@chartermi.com or fergus@one-name.org FERGUS, Francis Descendants beginning in 1752, Co Tyrone, Ireland, "my" lineage Please sign this Guest Book if you are a Francis FERGUS descendant! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fergusfamilyworldwide/index.htm FERGUS Family Worldwide, many Fergus lineages - and Guest Book for all FERGUS folk http://www.traverse.net./people/crussell/fergus_family.htm Member 3313 of the Guild of One Name Studies www.one-name.org ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

This extract of a letter from Port of Spain, Trinidad dated December 1903 might add something to this subject. "We are just coming through a very trying and anxious time. Poor little Sheila had a fall from the steps and a day or two afterwards took ill with what we thought was the flue [sic]. We doctored her “a la creole” with rum & candle grease etc. but as she got no better we called in Pollonais who treated her for bronchitis & cured her. We told him she was complaining of pains in her left knee & thigh & told him of the fall but he pooh poohed the idea & gave us a harmless linament to rub her. She limped about the bed room for 2 days & took ill again. He came again with reluctance & said she had malaria. The pains in her leg continued very badly & she had a temp. all the time of 105o. Pollonais came once & never returned, and knowing he was in charge of the case, we could not call in another Dr. while he was supposed to be attending. Anyway, I could stand it no longer & called in Dr. Morolejo, who at once diagnosed it as paratyphoid “A” and “B” (2 sorts). The funny part was that altho' he was treating her for it, and the blood test showed she had it (according to Drs at least) yet he himself told me he was not sure she had it. Peggy told him about the fall (and also of another fall which she had outside, of which a policeman told her) but he also pooh poohed the idea of any dislocation & said that the leg was a case of infantile paralysis due to the typhoid & that she would have to be in splints for 2 years!! So he suggested a damned fool of a Dr. called Campbell – an apache – who had an electrical apparatus for treating paralysis & Peggy (being stunned at the news) did not tell him no, unitl when he returned 2 days after. But he said he had already made arrangements with Campbell to come & could not put him off. When the buffoon came he said “Oh, it's tuberculosis of the hip she has”etc. Etc. Even Morolejo himself refused to believe this. Amyway when Morolejo went down the Islands I left the case in Campbell's hands & Campbell did not turn up for 5 days although Sheila would screech for hours with pain. Peggy rang up his office and dispensed with his services. We called in Milne, who confirmed what Morolejo said, that is that she should be X-rayed. Unfortunately Dr. Arthur Reid was down the Islands also. But when he came up he X-rayed her leg & showed the greatest interest in the case. The X-ray showed what Peggy said was the metter all the time – a common dislocation of the hip; and Read gave us a long certificate showing that there was no disease at all of the bone, but a dislocation due to external injury. Next thing was an operation to put the leg in place. Drs. Scheult, Read & Milne performed it, but it was discovered that as such a length of time had elapsed, there had been “adhesions” i.e. A false joint was being formed, which the Drs were afraid to try and break down, because they might injure her bones, which, being an infant, were soft. The alternative was an operation with the knife, but they were loth to perform so delicate a job, which requires a specialist. So they suggested the “gradual extension” process, i.e. Weights tied to herlegs, over a pulley, in the hopes that the adhesions would break down & the bone would get in place, but a faint hope. Sheila's leg was ¾ inch shorter than the other. It was tried & when they came again to operate 3 weeks later they were over-joyed to find that their fondest expectations had been more than realized, that what they had longed for as possibly might happen, did in fact happen and that the thigh bone- though not actually inside the socket – was yet in the proper position for this to happen in time. The 3 of them were like school-boys over the result but they had to make assurance doubly sure by taking another X-ray picture & when this was taken, it was found that the bone was in position. But the trouble is, that Sheila is not to press or kneel on the floor for 3 weeks again, until the sinews are properly knit – and this is the hardest part, for when the poor little thing found that her foot was not tied down with weights, she refused to stay in bed any more. She now wanders about the house on her bum, with the aid of her 2 hands & we can push her about on her pram. The 3 weeks will be up in about 10 days time. Roger McCracken > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Saunders [mailto:Jim-Saunders@shaw.ca] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 5:27 AM > To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Doctors of Physic and Surgery in the BWI > > > Hi. Just to add a little imformation to the medical dicsussion. I > come from > a long line of doctors (I'm not one though) in the UK, BWI and Canada. The > proper training for doctors in the new world was limited to a very few > places and both the New World and Old World med schools were very > expensive. > It was common-place to apprentice to a doctor for a year or two > and then you > could set up your own practise. The flaw in that method was you could only > be as good as the doctor who taught you and the medical profession did not > begin to be controlled until the late 19th century, although > country doctors > were still apprenticed until around the turn of the century. > Jim > > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island > bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003

Hi. I am relatively new to geneaolgy and so far I've dedicated most of my search to my side of the family. I actually started to search to (eventually) create a somewhat complete, professionally documented and published collection to present to my daughter when she gets older. Since she's only two now, I've have loads of time :)!! Anyway, your topic interested me because I have found that some of my maternal grandmother's family is from St. Barts and possibly Martinque (ZINGUE). My daughter's family, on her father's side is almost entirely from St. Lucia (CAMSEL and KING, FORTUNELLE/FONTANELLE, ST. CATHERINE). Have any of you run by any of these surnames or can offer any tips on researching the LDS to find Caribbean/French heritage? Monie <PennyKilbane@aol.com> wrote in message news:148.11af2e71.2bf7ee08@aol.com... > Hi Dick, Philippe and Karen (please see note to you at the end of this mail), > > I noted with great interest the discussions between Karen Lombard, Dick > Meyers and Philippe Rossignol on St.Lucia and Martinique families. So far I > have focused my research primarily on St.Lucia and have gone through a number > of LDS films etc. However, I have not yet started to look at Martinique, > which is where I hope you can help, if you are able and have the time to do a > couple of look-ups for me. Otherwise any advice would be most appreciated, > to get me moving in the right direction. Here are my areas of interest: > > 1) Uranie-Pierre SYLVESTRE, born Ducos, Martinique. I have no DOB, but she > was married in St.Lucia in 1871 (to Samuel BERNEZ), so estimate born 1840 to > 1850? > 2) Samuel BERNEZ, born in France, but residing in Martinique around 1860. > 3) ALCEE (Alcée). I have very little information, but understand that there > were two brothers who came to St.Lucia 1740 to 1780 from Martinique > (originally from France). > 4) Rene Louis MORTEAU. In St.Lucia the mid to late 1700''s. Not sure > whether there is a connection with Martinique here. > > Karen, > We've been in touch before, as we both research the name BONNETT / BONNET. > Please note that on the LDS film 1093929 ~ 1764 there are a lot of DE > BERNARDS. Also on the same film there are lots of BONNETS in Soufriere ~ > 1751 to 1788 (I have no detail, but just made a brief note on some surnames > I recognised). > > Looking forward to your response, > Many thanks in advance, > Penny >

Help! Can anyone remind me about how I go about changing my e-mail address for this service! Dot -----Original Message----- From: PennyKilbane@aol.com [mailto:PennyKilbane@aol.com] Sent: 18 May 2003 19:37 To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Martinique & St.Lucia - SYLVESTRE, BERNEZ & ALCEE Hi Dick, Many thanks for checking for me. If I get lucky enough to get as far back as your source, I will be thrilled!!! I have now begun to focus on Martinique, so hope I make some progress once I understand the various sources available. Also thanks for the info on Edwin Alcee. You did send me that a while ago now (must be 2 years or so) and at the time I did not have a connection, as the only Edwin I was aware of was a couple of generations out. However, I do now know the Edwin Alcee you have. He is part of another branch of the family, who I am now in touch with. Much appreciated. Regards, Penny ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked

Finally, after much searching (and headaches) I was saved by a fellow researcher who was able to tell me the name of the only ship to have transported East Indian indentured laborers to St. Croix, Danish West Indies. On June 15, 1863, the steamship Mars (not a sail ship) arrived at Croix from Calcutta, after being on the high seas for about 3 months, with 318 indentured servants. (Another source said the total was 326). I was very excited to have received this information. For a listing of other ships that transported East Indians to the Caribbean Basin, visit my site at www.geocities.com/yuddh1

ARE WE COUSINS? :-) Send me some names and let's compare! Monifa "Richard Bond" <RichardBond@webtv.net> wrote in message news:4992-3EC95F79-767@storefull-2115.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Yes they are kin and I recognize the name George as well for being two > surnames found among my maternal cousins. >

Ann, what records are these? Sorry I'm not up to date with Richard's and your conversation. Fill me in! I'd love to find records like the one mentioned below for my family. So far I've found one decendant, of Tortola, BVI, that may be of direct African decesent (he's actually the grandson of an African and my great, great, great grandfather). Monifa ""Ann Whiting"" <aqw8326@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BAY7-F87vFfVm85IWLt0003d00d@hotmail.com... > Richard and All, > > Now that Richard have me back on the Moravian trek, I have been going > through the bits and pieces of my files and documents for possible leads to > obtaining the documents. > I found an extraction I copied and it reminded me why I started the pursuit > of these records. > > For those of us who want to make the 'African Connection' this is an example > of what can be found in their records. > > In 1762 the Following: Marriage Register. > > Jan .21 ANDREAS, a Negro from Ibo, Guinea, W. Africa; he was > presented to Spangenberg by Thomas Noble of New York; d Apr. 13, > 1779 in Bethlehem. > MAGDALENA, a Negress from Popo, Guinea. > By Brother Nathanael > > Ann > "Sharing the information." > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >

It could have traveled with the Dutch sailors and settlers of the caribbean. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Hi All, I am still searching for information on John James Haddock who was a burger on St. Thomas in the 1830s. What was a burger? Where can I write to get birth, death, marriage and census records for St. Eustatius and St. Thomas? Can this info be found anywhere online? I would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Winniey@aol.com

Petronella was quite common in the English speaking world in the 1700 and 1800's. I have come across many in Jamaica and north america Lenora Anderson wrote: > Hi,, in browsing Online Documents from UK, ( what a great site). after > looking for ancestors just for the heck of it I put in name Petronella. Grt. > Grandmothers names was Anna Petronella de Freitas.. so I had searched this > name for a long time.. there is a quite extensive history on that family > name, Royalty. Now I am told that is was unusual and not used very often,, > unless family connections.. after all its not a "pretty" girls name and it > would not have been common usuage at the time we were in Grenada.. Searched > Grenada high and low and there were none, except for a slave that had that > name and was buried at Douglaston when the deFreitas had it.. I assume > child was young and had no family. > I know the Petronella originated in the Netherlands...so how and why did > this name travel to West Indies and around what year? > Always a challenge! > Lenora > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > ROOTSWEB MAILING LIST HELP PAGES > What is a Mailing List? > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/mail1.html

Hi,, in browsing Online Documents from UK, ( what a great site). after looking for ancestors just for the heck of it I put in name Petronella. Grt. Grandmothers names was Anna Petronella de Freitas.. so I had searched this name for a long time.. there is a quite extensive history on that family name, Royalty. Now I am told that is was unusual and not used very often,, unless family connections.. after all its not a "pretty" girls name and it would not have been common usuage at the time we were in Grenada.. Searched Grenada high and low and there were none, except for a slave that had that name and was buried at Douglaston when the deFreitas had it.. I assume child was young and had no family. I know the Petronella originated in the Netherlands...so how and why did this name travel to West Indies and around what year? Always a challenge! Lenora

Checking 'List of the names of Inhabitants of the Danish Westindian Islands(VirginIslands)' 1650-1825, I do not see a the name, or any spelling close to it. Maybe he was a Burger in Stacia. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

A burger is a councilman, 1830 St. Thomas records, will be in Denmark, and St. Eustatius, I believe someone else on the list might be able to help. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Religion was available to the africans or mulattos's in the West Indies, until the Moravians came there. The first mission was in St. Thomas, New Herrnhutt, named after Herrnhutt, Bavaria, where the sect had their revival of popularity. A minor noble, Count Nicholas Zinzendorf, a Lutheran clergy,in 1731 met at Danish King Christian VI's court a slave from St.Thomas, Anthony Ulrich, who told him of the conditions in the VI, but he told him to preach to the slaves, one had to become a slave. In 1732 Leonard Dober and a few of the single Brethren, went to St. Thomas, bought property and began a quasi-plantation/school/church for the slaves. As you can see from the post, they kept meticulous records, ie. the tribe or birth place of the slaves. Those documents are in either Germany or Bethlehem, Pa, and not microfilmed. It was several years before the other religions began to allow blacks to become members. most of the original black families are Moravian. Where the cross over comes in, is with marriage. Ann "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Bonjour cheryl Je vais regarder au AD jeudi. amicalement aline charles guadeloupe cheryl_nneka@hotmail.com ("Nneka X") wrote in message news:<Sea2-F6nhdAHxNzFiPN00017b94@hotmail.com>... > Aline, > > Merci beaucoup pour votre offre de recherche. Si j'ai besoin d'aide avec mon > histoire de famille la-bas, je vais vous contacter. Pour le moment, je sais > que ma famille a des connections francaises, alors j'ai un petit question. > Savez-vous si le nom Ollivierre etait present sur le Guadeloupe entre > 1700-1830? Il y'a beaucoup de personnes de cette famille sur Bequia, St > Vincent qui peut tracer ses racines au France, Grenade, ou Portugal. Je > pense aussi que l'ancienne famille Ollivierre a un connection avec les > Gerauds/Girauds de Grenade. > > Merci, > > Cheryl Hazell > Toronto > recherche encore Hazell, Ollivierre, Adams > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Cindy, Finding my relatives on Carpenter Street is going to be my June project. There are literally thousands of Adams in that city. Were you able to get a first initial or name for me to start with whom the fellow from Union will be visiting? This is going to be exciting I hope! For those of you who have or haven't perused the Ellis Island passenger records as yet in search of your immigrant ancestors, please take note that the original ship manifests cover many pages. So when you click on the button that brings you to the manifest, usually it starts on the second page of the selected passenger's info. If you click Next or Previous you'll get to the page starting with Column 1. On that page you'll find, among other things, the passenger's parent's name, their occupation, and their abiliy to read and write English. www.ellisislandrecords.org You'll need to register for free in order to do searches and the like. It's a great resource and has opened up my eyes especially in regard to the living patterns and mobility of my ancestors. Cheryl Hazell Toronto, ON still researching Hazell and Adams in Philadelphia _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Aline, Merci beaucoup pour votre offre de recherche. Si j'ai besoin d'aide avec mon histoire de famille la-bas, je vais vous contacter. Pour le moment, je sais que ma famille a des connections francaises, alors j'ai un petit question. Savez-vous si le nom Ollivierre etait present sur le Guadeloupe entre 1700-1830? Il y'a beaucoup de personnes de cette famille sur Bequia, St Vincent qui peut tracer ses racines au France, Grenade, ou Portugal. Je pense aussi que l'ancienne famille Ollivierre a un connection avec les Gerauds/Girauds de Grenade. Merci, Cheryl Hazell Toronto recherche encore Hazell, Ollivierre, Adams _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail