Life in three countries : China, Jamaica and England by Lien-Li Tie Cambridge: 1991. Biography. The Chinese in Jamaica by Tom Yin Lee Kingston: Get For Co. 1957. 329 p. illus.; Maps. From the Middle Kingdom to the New World : aspects of the Chinese experience in migration to British Guiana by Margery Kirkpatrick Georgetown, Guyana: M. Kirkpatrick. 1993. The Chinese in British Guiana by Cecil Clementi. The Argosy Press. Georgetown. British Guiana.1915 Chinese Labour. The Transvaal Ordinance analysed, together with the British Guiana Ordinance. by Sydney Charles Buxton London: Liberal Publication Department. 1904. pp. 23. The Chinese in Trinidad by Trevor M. Millett Port of Spain: Imprint 1993. 321p. The Chinese in Guyana: The making of a Creole Comunity. by Laura Jane Hall Ph.D. Thesis. University of California. Berkeley. 1995. Scenes from the history of the Chinese in Guyana. by Marlene Kwok Crawford Demerara Publishers. Georgetown. Guyana. 1989. Ch'ing Policy Toward the Coolie Trade, 1847-1878. by Robert L. Irick Chinese Materials Center.Taiwan. 1982. The Organization of Chinese Emigration 1846-1888. by Sing-Wu Wang Chinese Materials Center Inc. San Francisco. 1978.

500 years in the Jewish Caribbean : the Spanish and Portuguese Jews in the West Indies by Harry A. Ezratty. Rev. ed., Baltimore, Md.: Omni Arts, 2002. 197 p. Includes bibliographical references and index Previous ed.: 1997 Merchants and Jews : the struggle for British West Indian commerce,1650-1750 by Alexander Stephen Fortune Latin American monographs; 2nd ser., 26. Gainesville : University Presses of Florida, c1984; 244 p. : maps; Bibliography included, p. 171-235 Notes on the history of the Jews in the W. Indies by Darnell N. Davis. American Jewish Historical Society, N.Y. 1910 Reprinted from Publications of the American Jewish Historical Society, No.19, 1910 Material for the History of the Jews in the British West Indies. by Herbert Friedenwald Published 1893. Spanish and Portuguese Jews in the Caribbean and the Guianas: a bibliography. by Dennis Channing Landis & Ann Phelps Barry & Mordehay Arbell. The John Carter Brown Library. Providence, R.I. ; New York, N.Y. 1999. 160p.

Spanish and Portuguese Jews in the Caribbean and the Guianas: a bibliography by Dennis Channing Landis & Ann Phelps Barry & Mordehay Arbell. The John Carter Brown Library. Providence, R.I. ; New York, N.Y. 1999. 160p.

China: Correspondence and returns respecting the emigration of Chinese coolies 1852-58 Great Britain Parliament House of Commons Area studies series, British Parliamentary papers Documents selected from the nineteenth century British House of Commons sessional and command papers Shannon : Irish University Press. 1971. 494p. China: Correspondence, dispatches and other communications respecting the emigration of Chinese coolies 1858-92. Great Britain Parliament House of Commons Area studies series, British Parliamentary papers Documents selected from the nineteenth century British House of Commons sessional and command papers Shannon : Irish University Press. 1971. 524p. Chinese emigration to the West Indies: a trip through British Guiana. Lobscheid William Demerara: Royal Gazette. 1866. 53 p. Stress of weather : a collection of original source documents relating to a voyage from China to Trinidad, West Indies, in 1862 : in conjunction with a family chronicle. by Helen & Phillip Atteck St. Catharines, Ont. : Wanata Enterprises. 2000. 289 p. : ill. (some col) : maps. The Chinese in the West Indies, 1806-1995 : a documentary history by Walton Look Lai Kingston, Jamaica : The Press, University of the West Indies.1998 338 p : ill., maps Bibliography (p.333-338) Ethnic minorities in Caribbean society by Rhoda Reddock [Contains: The creolization of the Chinese community in Jamaica by Patrick Bryan; & Beyond profit and capital : a study of the Sindhis and Gujaratis of Barbados by Peter Hanoomansingh]. University of the West Indies Institute of Social and Economic Research St. Augustine, Trinidad and Tobago : I.S.E.R., The University of the West Indies. c1996. 383 p. Indentured labor, Caribbean sugar : Chinese and Indian migrants to the British West Indies, 1838-1918 by Walton Look Lai Johns Hopkins studies in Atlantic history and culture Baltimore ; London : Johns Hopkins University Press, c1993. 370p. Bibliography included. Cane Reapers: Chinese Indentured Immigrants in Guyana. by Trev Sue-A-Quan. Riftswood Publishing. Vancouver. British Columbia. Canada. 1999. Maps; Photographs; Statistics; Chinese names; Select Bibliography; 334p. Letters on coolie emigration to the West Indies [On Chinese in the West Indies] by Otto von Wenckstern & Louis Alexander Chamerovzow The Nineteenth Century, General Collection ; title no. N.1.1.1381 Cambridge: Chadwyck-Healey Ltd. 18591microfiche; 11x15 cm Letters by Wenckstern and Chamerovzow Original imprint: London : Effingham Wilson, Royal Exchange, 1859. London: Savill and Edwards, Printers, Chandos Street, Covent Garden Suggestions arising from the abolition of the African slave trade : for supplying the demands of the West India colonies with agricultural labourers by Robert Townsend Farquhar Grey tracts ; 67. London : Printed for John Stockdale.1807. 66 p.

In the research on East Indian immigration, has anyone come upon the name, "Turobunsing" in St. Vincent in the 1800s? Nevilla Richard Allicock wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. > >I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." > >I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. > >So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. > >Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. > >Here's the list of places done and not done: > >Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad] > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

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Christal, Thank you, every bit of information helps in the search, I just found a directory to the holdings of the Moravian records of the Virgin Islands, and I am trying to decipher it, it is is danish!. So I know what you mean about language. Ann ----Original Message Follows---- From: monsanto@interneeds.net (Christel) Reply-To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Moravian Records in West Indies continue Date: 6 Jun 2003 16:52:27 -0700 Hi, my two cents for what it is worth. I have done research in 19th century Moravian records, not in the United States, but in Holland. But the German is probably the same. I am German, but it was extemely difficult to read the records. I was rather succesful in the baptism records, they kept there of different relatives I was looking for, and I had an enormous break, with one slave grgrgrmother, but their other records of the visits to the different places and their conferences: almost not to be read. I went for weeks, every week for one day. The tip of getting relevant information from the archivaris before you go, seems to be very good. Find out, if they have baptism records from the Virgin Islands and ask how they are arranged. By plantation or by church. Consider, if the people were still slaves there exist probably two different sets of names: the ones they had before baptism and the ones they received at baptism. I was looking for a family on a plantation owned by English owners. The names of their slaves were a little different from the surrounding plantations owned by the Dutch. Finally I found the mother and grandmother of the whole group: her name in the slave records was Hebe, what do you think the Moravian brothers made of that? "Ibi", they spelled what they heard. Be prepared. Success in your endeavors Christel ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ "Sharing the information." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi, my two cents for what it is worth. I have done research in 19th century Moravian records, not in the United States, but in Holland. But the German is probably the same. I am German, but it was extemely difficult to read the records. I was rather succesful in the baptism records, they kept there of different relatives I was looking for, and I had an enormous break, with one slave grgrgrmother, but their other records of the visits to the different places and their conferences: almost not to be read. I went for weeks, every week for one day. The tip of getting relevant information from the archivaris before you go, seems to be very good. Find out, if they have baptism records from the Virgin Islands and ask how they are arranged. By plantation or by church. Consider, if the people were still slaves there exist probably two different sets of names: the ones they had before baptism and the ones they received at baptism. I was looking for a family on a plantation owned by English owners. The names of their slaves were a little different from the surrounding plantations owned by the Dutch. Finally I found the mother and grandmother of the whole group: her name in the slave records was Hebe, what do you think the Moravian brothers made of that? "Ibi", they spelled what they heard. Be prepared. Success in your endeavors Christel

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Dear Ernest, From Maurice Bateman Hutt's "Exploting Historic Barbados" copyright 1981, p.79 from the Chapter "Exploring St. George's Parish" " The road turns north-eastwards through the rolling rounded hills covered with sugar cane, but soon ther is a choice of routes. A road runs off to the right, southwads, past the Hope to Free Hill and around to Workman's. Hilbury and across to Walker's. ........"Continue alont hte main road eastwards. On the left is a place named Moscow on the large survey map but named New Zealand on the 1873 chart. .........Near Moscow is Supurlative, apparently a maodrn name. " Lisa

Thank you Lisa! I did not know about this book, so I shall have to try and find a copy. Capt. Hutt was my very first history teacher in first form, and then again in fifth form at Harrison College. Marvellous man. Generations of HC boys I am sure remember him well: he always did the announcements on sports day: without a megaphone! His voice carried clearly across Weymouth playing fields with no need for amplification! -----Original Message----- From: Lisa [mailto:ljj5@optonline.net] Subject: Re: "Superlative" (sugar estate) - Barbados Dear Ernest, From Maurice Bateman Hutt's "Exploring Historic Barbados" copyright 1981, p.79 from the Chapter "Exploring St. George's Parish"

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This discussion has been extremely useful - in terms of bibliographies. I wonder if anyone can offer advice on a question I posed a while ago - that of vital records for the East Indian community. Many, if not most, of the East Indian immigrants predated civil registration and as most were not Christians would not be recorded in the usual Caribbean sources - namely parish registers. What was the practice for recording their births, marriages and deaths/burials, if at all? May be this was oral tradition as practiced in India. I understand that in Trinidad Muslim marriages were not recognised until about 1936 and Hindu marriages until about 1946 - this meant that such 'married' couples were considered common-law relationship and were basically single from a legal point of view and any children were illegitimate, this also effected laws of probate for intestacy (dying without leaving a valid will) and later British citizenship and belonging (as citizenship passed through legitimate fathers). However, for such marriages not to be recognised must mean that these marriages occurred. Were such events written down? I have tried numerous social histories and websites - there is plenty describing the migrations, immigration controls and working conditions but really there is nothing of serious use to the genealogist. Another non-Christian group of post emancipation labourers, which again predate civil registration, are the Chinese labourers. They first arrived in Trinidad in 1806 although the next waves were not until the 1840s in Guyana, Jamaica and Trinidad. Was anything recorded about their life events? However, very few Chinese women migrated until the 1860s and I understand that the normal practice was for Chinese men to return to China in order to marry and would remain. But after 1860 some 'marriages' must have taken place according to homeland practices - may be their numbers were too small to establish their own places of worship and that births and marriages went unrecorded. I assume that burials would occur but in the municipal cemeteries rather than church yards. There is an excellent site relating to the Chinese in Guyana by Trev Sue-A-Quan at http://www.rootsweb.com/~guycigtr/ I welcome any thoughts and advice. Thanks Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> To: <CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: East Indian Indenture Immigration W.I. > Hi Listers, > > I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. > > I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." > > I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. > > So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. > > Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. > > Here's the list of places done and not done: > > Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad] > > > ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== > For information on individual islands, research aids, island bulletin boards or history please visit the CaribbeanGenWeb project at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/ > >

> Bonjour Philippe, Please excuse my lack of French - I am interested in any background of Hugues (French Revolution and up to him coming back to the Caribbean and masterminding the uprisings in Grenada and St. Vincent). Any references to books, websites, archives - would be helpful (even if they are in French - I can stumble through). I'm off to Grenada in about an hour's time, so will be catching up in a couple of weeks. Best regards, Cindy > > Bonjour > What is the original message about Victor Hugues ? I have missed it > because the > subject was different. About action of V H and FEDON in Grenada you > can read > "Grabuge ‡ la Grenade" (in french) at > http://www.GHCaraibe.org/bul/ghc018/p0166.html > I shall be pleased to have the "english version" of this event > Regards > Philippe Rossignol > > >

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Hi Listers, I think I have come to the end of the research material for East Indian Indenture Immigration to the West Indies. I took a look at Chedie's List on his Website "East Indian Laborers in the Caribbean 1838 to 1930." I have produced some material for the places in Brackets. The places that are unbracketed are yet to be provided for in terms of historical research material. So others are free to pitch in and hlep to complete the List and the thread. Please stick to the Subject line. Thanks. Here's the list of places done and not done: Belize, Fr. Guiana, Grenada, Guadaloupe, [Guyana], [Jamaica], Martinique, Nevis, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, [St. Vincent], [Surinam] and [Trinidad]

'Tiger in the stars' : the anatomy of Indian achievement in British Guiana, 1919-29 by Clem Seecharan. Warwick University Caribbean studies London : Caribbean/Macmillan 1996, 401p. Bibliography : p375-392 The East Indian immigrant society in British Guiana. by Dale Bisnauth Peepal Tree. 1996 A question of labour: indentured immigration into Trinidad and British Guiana, 1875-1917. by K.O. Laurence. Kingston, Jamaica : Ian Randle ; London : James Currey, 1994. 648p : maps. Centenary History of the East Indians in British Guiana 1838-1938 by Peter Ruhomon East Indians 150th Anniversary Committee. 1988. 260p First published, Georgetown: Daily Chronicle, 1947, as no. 10 in their Guiana edition series. Benevolent neutrality : Indian government policy and labour migration to British Guiana 1854-1884 . by Mangru Basdeo London : Hansib.1987. 267p. Bibliography: p254-261. The development of the East Indian community in British Guiana,1920-1950 by Clem Shiwcharan Clem University of the West Indies History Dept. St. Augustine.1982. 61 p. Presented at a staff/graduate seminar A history of Indians in Guyana by Dwarka Nath. 2nd revised ed.London : D. Nath, 1970 281, [1] p. (1 fold.), 17 plates : illus., map. Former edition called A history of Indians in British Guiana.

Thanks for the info, Tim. Will follow through and also pass it on. Nevilla Tim Anderson wrote: >Nevilla -- >Cheryl Hazell pointed out to me the Ellis Island site when we were >helping each other with her Ollivierres from Bequia and my Wilsons >from Carriacou. The site requires registration but no fee; it is >www.ellisisland.org. I have used it almost every day since Cheryl >brought it to my attention. I always read the complete (original >manifest) which is normally 2 pages. I check the enitire manifest to >see who the passenger that I have found may have been traveling with. >I also keep note of the destination addresses. I get the impression >that certain addresses were like stops on the underground railroad: W. >99th Street in New York; Perth Amboy, NJ; certain streets in >Philadelphia; small towns like Attleboro, Massachusetts. If you have >relatives that came to the US between 1892 and 1924, you will find >this very interesting. >Note, I originally wrote the web site as "dot COM"; it is definitely >"dot ORG". There is another site at ellisisland.com that is >interesting but will not give you the paggenger lists and information. > >On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 05:50:10 +0000 (UTC), clasebon@erols.com ("Nevilla >E. Ottley") wrote: > >>WOW!!!!! Thanks, Tim for this information and the following copy of the >>manifest. I will send it off immediately, and I am sure they will be >>pleased. >> >>Nevilla >> >> >> >> >>Tim Anderson wrote: >> >>>Nevilla -- >>>I have found a Fitzdonald Hunt sailing on the Hubert from Barbados >>>arriving in New York August 14, 1895. The manifest was filled out in >>>manuscript (the same hand for all names which might explain HUNT >>>rather than HUNTE). His age was reported as 22 years and 4 mos. That >>>appears off by two years; still I feel that it is likely to be the >>>same person. The information is given as: >>>0019. Hunt, Fitzdonald M 22y 4m U Barbados >>>His destination was listed as Philadelphia. I am sending the original >>>manifest to you by email >>>Tim >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 02:28:25 +0000 (UTC), clasebon@erols.com ("Nevilla >>>E. Ottley") wrote: >>> >>>>Dear List, >>>> >>>>Nevilla Ottley here. A recent acquaintance asked me about his Hunt(e) >>>>line, and I don't have the answers, even though I am a Hunt. I have >>>>directed him to join the list, but in the meantime, does anyone have an >>>>answer for him. He says: >>>> >>>>I contacted the Barbados musuem regarding my great-grandfather months >>>>ago but they have yet to respond. I was wondering if you might be able >>>>to help me. My great-grandfather was Fitzdonald Isley Sinclair Hunte >>>>and was born in Barbados in 1871. He married after arriving in >>>>Philadephia. His parents were Thomas Nathaniel Hunte and Elizabeth >>>>Harris. Thomas had been in jail so family tales are scarce. Fitzdonald >>>>had a brother named Arthur and two sisters named Lilian and >>>>Ethel. Would you have any information on this family? I am willing to >>>>pay for services. Thank you for your consideration. >>>> >>>> >>>>Sincerely, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Charles Assadourian >>>> >>> >>>==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >>>all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >>>Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked >>> >>> > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >all messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Before posting a query, see if the question has already been asked > >

In place of slavery : a social history of British Indian and Javanese laborers in Surinam. by Rosemarijn Hoefte Gainesville : University Press of Florida. 1998, 275 p. Contracten voor Suriname : arbeidsmigratie vanuit Brits-Indië onder het indentured-labourstelsel, 1873-1916. by Rajinder Bagwanbali. Nijmegen : Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen.1996.263 p . Includes summary in English Thesis (doctoral)--Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen, 1996 Plantation labor after the abolition of slavery : the case of plantation Marienburg (Suriname) 1880-1940 by Rosemarijn Hoefte. Ann Arbor, Mich. : U.M.I. 1990. 500p Thesis (Ph.D.) - University of Florida, 1987 East India (indentured labour) : Report to the Govt. of India on the conditions of Indian immigrants in four British colonies and Suriname by James McNeill & C. Lal. London, 1915. 2 vols.Pt. I: Trinidad and Brit. Guiana.--Part. II. Surinam, Jamaica, Fiji.