Jean-Marie -- Thanks for your help. I was not able to find a thing until I started searching alternative spellings. There is a small piece of current Angola, called Cabinda, that is nestled in between Congo-Brazzaville and Congo-Kinshasa. I believe that 18th century Port of Loango (Lawango or Luango) is located in Cabinda and that this is immediately next to Pointe-Noire in Congo. I found more information at the following web site: http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/migrations/four2.html. Tim On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 20:58:28 +0200, "Jean-Marie Baltimore" <jean-marie.baltimore@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >Your Lawango must be LOANGO, a small village 15 miles away from nowadays >Pointe-Noire in Congo. One of the main points in the slave trade. >"Tim Anderson" <timuna@starpower.net> a écrit dans le message de news: >j4v8gv0aa1auevimu7gltfufpmlp0kui0k@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I have just been going over the current offerings at the University of the West Indies Press (www.uwipress.com). I found a few books that are germane to this issue including: Trinidad Yoruba From Mother Tongue to Memory by Maureen Warner-Lewis Tim On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 20:39:42 +0200, "Jean-Marie Baltimore" <jean-marie.baltimore@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >The mandingo empire used to cover areas such as part of Mali, Guinea, Guinea >Bissau, Senegal and Mauritania. Some of the Mandingo tribes are Malinké, >Bambara, Soninké, Peuls and Dioulas >"Dean de Freitas" <caribgw@bellsouth.net> a écrit dans le message de news: >7D69CCE8-ADB2-11D7-9918-000A9588C052@bellsouth.net... >> I posted this a while back, but it's pertinent to the current thread. >> >> TRINIDAD SLAVE CENSUS OF 1813 >> Number of slaves 25,696 >> Creole (i.e born in the West Indies) 11,633 (46% of total) >> African 13,984 (54% of total) >> >> BREAKDOWN OF AFRICAN BORN SLAVES >> Ibo (S.E. Nigeria) 2,863 - 20% of African >> Congo (Congo) 2,450 - 20% >> Moco (Cameroons) 2,240 - 17% >> Mandingo (Senegambia) 1,421 - 10% >> Kormantyn (Ghana - includes Fanti, Ashanti & others) - 1,068 - 7% >> Kwakwa (Ivory Coast) 473 - 3% >> Sierra Leone (Temne 169, Sisu 145, Kissi 63) - 377 2.5% >> Ibibio (Nigeria) 371 - 2.5% >> Raddah (Dahomey) 281 - 2% >> Chamba (Nigeria?) 275 - 2% >> Fulani (N. Sierra Leone) 171 - 1.2% >> Popo (Dahomey) 112 - 1% >> Hausa (N. Nigeria) 109 - 1% >> Yoruba (W. Nigeria) 10 - 0.07% >> Various tribes under 1% 818 - 6% >> Only port of departure known - 8.73% >> >> Source: "Seven Slaves and Slavery - Trinidad 1777-1838", by Father >> Anthony de Verteuil C.S.Sp., Scrip-J Printers, Port-of-Spain, 1992. >> >> The book relates the life stories of seven slaves in Trinidad to >> illustrate how they lived. It contains a chapter on the slave trade, >> and many vignettes on slave life. >> >

On 7/6/03 5:23 PM, "Richard Bond" <RichardBond@webtv.net> wrote: > Wasn't there also a President of Liberia from Barbados who fought for > the British in the Boer War and settled in Liberia with a South African > wife Hey Richard As far as I'm aware, there are only two Liberian presidents from Barbados -- Arthur Barclay (b. 1854 - d. 1938) - from 4 Jan 1904 to 1 Jan 1912 and his nephew Edwin J. Barclay (b. 1882 - d. 1955) (acting to 4 Jan 1932) - from 3 Dec 1930 to 3 Jan 1944 Earl -- Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.

Wasn't there also a President of Liberia from Barbados who fought for the British in the Boer War and settled in Liberia with a South African wife?

In this posting I've provided the text of Borrowes' dissertation that deals with immigration to Liberia from the US and the West Indies. At the end is a quote from President Barclay whose family immigrated from Barbados. His, and the quote from other government officials at the time, gives an idea of the "quality" of the type of immigrants they were encouraging. Earl ------- Source: Burrowes, Carl Patrick, Ph. D. (1994). Press Freedom in Liberia, 1830-1970: The impact of modernity, ethnicity and power imbalances on government-press relations "From Pan-Africanism to Liberian Nationalism (pp. 413-419) "During the early years of this period [1900-1930] mass immigration of new world blacks became another basis for the polarization of local political leaders, a split that was reinforced by growing political differences among blacks in the United States. This split was sparked by an article in the African League which accused the U.S. Minister resident Lyons of inducing immigrant W.E. Watson, a medical doctor, to return to the United States in order to discredit the immigration drive. The League's editor also argued that Liberians would prefer a white consul at Monrovia, since black diplomats were unable to maintain their neutrality on local affairs -- an odd position for a black nationalist. Lyon responded by dispatching a letter to Watson in which he accused Dr. Faulkner -- Watson's host while in Monrovia -- of spreading the rumor and requesting Watson to confront Faulkner in the presence of a witness. Watson responded to Lyons, denying that he had been pressured or induced by the U.S. Envoy to leave Liberia and reporting that Faulkner had denied spreading the charge (African Agricultural World, November 1905) This attack on Lyons sparked a special issue of the African Agricultural World on 'The Immigration Question' in November 1905. The controversy had its origin in two dispatches to the U.S. Secretary of State from Lyons. The first, sent on September 23, 1903, informed the secretary that due to poor planning and inadequate provisions, 20 of the 56 blacks from Erwin County, Georgia, who left for Liberia under the leadership of B.J. Scott, had died, the others were sickly and destitute, and five were planning to return to the United States via Liverpool on the first English steamer. Lyons blamed " agitation now going [on] in the United States, on the subject of Negro immigration to Liberia, by irresponsible persons, whose literature has wide circulation among the innocent and poorer classes of Negroes" (African Agricultural World, November 1905) In a letter two week later, Lyons asserted on the basis of his own knowledge and a survey of Liberian leaders that the country was not ready for indiscriminate immigration, meaning by poorer blacks. In addition, he said he had began soliciting the opinions of Liberian leaders on immigration 13 months earlier after a letter from the Rev. W.H. Heard appeared in the African League, following an Immigrations Convention held in Montgomery, Alabama, on June 26, 1903, in which he claimed that large numbers of blacks were willing to leave for Liberia. On August 27, 1903, Lyons informed President G.W. Gibson of Liberia in a letter that some recent immigrants were about to return to the United States in "pitiable" conditions, likely to "excite attention" and although they were unlikely to say unfriendly things about Liberia, "yet newspaper men live by printing sensational reports." In addition, Lyons sent a letter to several Liberian leaders drawing their attention to the recently published statements of the Rev. Heard and soliciting their reactions (African Agricultural World, November 1905). Of those who responded to Lyons, only Episcopal Bishop S.D. Ferguson emphasized the need for changes on the part of the Liberian government, noting that "there should be an immigration bureau under government appointment, with whom all such persons would correspond before coming in order that information must be had and the necessary arrangements made for them. Respondents who were government officials, in contrast emphasized the need for "quality" immigrants. For example, Post Master S.T. Prout argued: "Men and women are wanted who are patriotic lovers of freedom, self-reliant men, men of push, men who can organize ideas and execute them, responsible men who come determined to stand by the Republic of Liberia and succeed as she succeeds, or fall as the Republic fails." In a similar vain, Secretary of Treasury Daniel E. Howard noted, "If those who were to immigrate have really gotten enough of all they can get our of America, the good and the bad, then, and not till then, let them come. ...an indiscriminate, heterogeneous, wholesale influx of Negroes or anybody else would be undesirable here or anywhere else." T.W. Howard added that "none but those who are capable of coming to assist us in solving the great problems of the state are needed." In forwarding these letters to his superiors in Washington, D.C., Lyons also cited a letter from E.W. Blyden to the Liberia Recorder of August 20, 1905, in which Blyden waxed philosophically, arguing that it might take Liberians another 300 years to transform the country into an appropriate receptacle for new world blacks (African Agricultural World, November 1905) President Barclay, himself an immigrant, noted: "There is a class of men slowly coming into the country who will prove a most useful acquisition. They are rather above the average. As the country develops and opportunities offer they will encourage their friends to come over. This class should zealously be encouraged. ... I am aware that our state must have accessions of civilized persons of Negro blood from America and the West Indies; but we must see the danger of the incoming at this critical period, when we are trying to place on a proper footing our relations with the tribal communities on the country of a greater number of people ignorant alike of the experience through which the older settlers have passed, and of their conclusions thereupon; and, for some years at least after settlements careless of both national organism and ideal. As one cannot do without the native citizen, so we must be careful that one do not unduly force pace (African Agricultural World, November 1905) -- Love doesn't make the world go around; Love is what makes the ride worthwhile. Franklin P. Jones

On 7/6/03 2:24 PM, "Henry N Hassell" <hhassell@tds.net> wrote: > Was this the individual from Petersburg, VA.? I have seen the Historical > marker on Sycamore and Wythe streets I believe. Henry -- I assume you're referring to JJ Roberts -- the other Virginian Republican president <grin> Here is some of the notes I have on him: As a boy in Petersburg, VA., J. J. Roberts received ³the elements of a plain English education.² He is reported to have been ³thoughtful² and ³very industrious.² As a young man J.J. navigated a small vessel up and down the Appomattox and James rivers; beginning as a cabin-boy on the Appomattox river. These ³Black Jacks² served not only as an information source to the black community along the rivers they navigated, they often helped in smuggling slaves to freedom. On arriving in Liberia with his mother and siblings, J.J. ³engaged in mercantile pursuits, and was very successful.² During this time he made several trips to the US for supplies -- at times chartering ³an entire vessel for his trading purposes.² Report on his credit rating in the US around this time is recorded as ³of the highest character.² When Roberts arrived in Liberia, at the age of 20, the colony already had a Constitution that had been hammered out between the society and the immigrants in 1824. A ³concise body of laws² was later developed and adopted by the immigrants in 1839. J.J. served as the first black governor of the Liberian colony from 1842 to 1848; he was also the last governor of the Commonwealth. During his final tenure as governor, Roberts administered the colony virtually independent of the American Colonization Society; relying totally on the administrative skills and expertise of the immigrants, and ³in 1846 the society dissolved all political connections with the people of Liberia.² Under J.J. Roberts¹ direction the ³people of Liberia² began their drive towards establishing Africa¹s first Republic. On August 24, 1847 he received and hoisted at Mamba Point the first Liberia flag -- fashioned after the flag of the Colonization Society, which itself was copied from the American flag. On the 5th of October the first national elections were held and J.J. Roberts was elected the Republic¹s first president -- serving from 1848 to 1856. He was again elected in 1872 and served an additional four years an the Republic¹s seventh president. During his tenure as president Roberts traveled internationally in securing recognition for Liberia. During his first visit to the US -- arriving in June 1849 -- he met with the President of the US and a number of departments in Washington D.C. According to the account in The National Magazine, Roberts was ³received with marked respect.² This visit resulted from increasing differences between the government of the new Republic and the ³commissioners² of the society. Following this trip to the US, Roberts traveled to Europe. In England he secured funds ($10,000) to purchase territory from Cape Mount to Sierra Leone in order to deny the area to slave traders who were then operating at Gallinas and Sherbro. While in England Roberts also argued the Liberian Government¹s case against the British consul to Liberia (a native of the Goal Coast) who was actively encouraging British traders in their efforts to undermine the government¹s authority. The traders, on the other hand, encouraged rebel leaders Grando and Boyer and ³facilitated the raising of forces, and furnished arms and ammunition² in their war against the immigrants. Following Roberts presentation (with the assistance of the American Minister to the Court of St. James -- a Lawrence) the British Government conceded the Liberian Government jurisdiction ³over all the territory she claimed² and ³promised to remove the consul from his office.² After public office he concentrated on establishing and administering Liberia college. Founder and Administrator of Liberia College (1862-1875); Grand Master of the Grand Lodge pf Masons. -- Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.

On 7/6/03 9:24 AM, "Bob Wilson" <rhjwwjd@btc-bci.com> wrote: > I would like to know how to get information from Liberia. My direct ancestor > from St. Croix, Rev. John SEYS, Hi Bob Rev. Syes is credited (or blamed -- depending you ones views of political parties) with starting the first political party in Liberia. Prior to his organized effort, political aspirants ran on their individual merits. The stories reads like the script for a movie. Here's some background to what would evolve into a major struggle that involved every sector of the young African state. Facing dwindling financial support from the US, the American Colonization Society (ACS) got the Liberian legislature (in 1840) to pass a law requiring that the ACS and all missionary societies pay duty on all imported goods that they used in trading. Rev. Seys, as head of the Methodist church, was later that year presented with a bill for $80.30 which he refused to pay. Seys argument was that imported goods used as payment for labor provided was not subject to duty and wrote the ACS in the US for clarification. The ACS decided unanimously that mission societies were only titled to duty free privileges for imported goods used for their own consumption. Seys then informed the (ACS appointed) governor that he had forwarded the matter to the managers of the Methodist Missionary Society in the US and that they would be taking up the matter with the ACS Head Office in Washington DC. Some settlers (and interestingly, the white ACS assigned governor) saw this as an affront to their efforts at establishing law and order. The governor even labeled Seys' action as disrespectful and seditious. Others saw this as an ongoing encouraging rebellion against the ACS that would speed up the establishment of a "free and independent state for people of color". As the tension built around this issue (with churches and citizens taking sides) the collector of customs sued the Methodist church and Rev. Seys for the unpaid duty. The trial was held on September 4th 1840. Serving as chief of the judiciary was the governor who would have also presided over the case had it gone to the Supreme Court. While asking the governor to recluse himself, Seys also went after the ACS by appealing to the "patriotism" of the 12 jurors who were all first generation settlers. Here is a portion of Seys' defense taken from Burrowes' book referred to earlier: ³Why this court? Why this jury? Why is the matter referred to 12 free citizens of the commonwealth of Liberia, if any other society, or body of men, could decide this case why appeal it to a jury of Liberians? No, gentlemen; you are supreme in this case. The Colonization Society may give or grant you a constitution; you may accept it; you make laws; they may revoke them; but they cannot interpret your laws, (when made or already approved of by themselves), they cannot interpret them to suit their own conveniences² (Africa's Luminary, Oct. 2, 1840). The jury deliberated for a day before advising the court that they were hopelessly divided (10 to 2) and unable to reach a unanimous decision. This was to begin Seys¹ historical journey into the arena of Liberian politics ‹ more to follow. Earl -- "Birds of a feather flock together." If you're an eagle, don't hang around chickens: Chickens Can't Fly!

Was this the individual from Petersburg, VA.? I have seen the Historical marker on Sycamore and Wythe streets I believe. Henry N Hassell 17251 Ingram Lane Amelia, VA 23002 USA 804-561-3060 K4LMY -----Original Message----- From: Bob Wilson [mailto:rhjwwjd@btc-bci.com] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 9:24 AM To: CARIBBEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: reverse immigration Subject: re: reverse immigration I would like to know how to get information from Liberia. My direct ancestor from St. Croix, Rev. John SEYS, then living in the USA, was appointed as Minister Resident/Consul General to Liberia in 1866. He maped the area of Careysburg. The map is now in the possession of The American Colonization Society. There is supposedly a monument honoring him in Liberia. He was a bishop in Liberia, also. There is a book, "VIRGINIA'S NINTH PRESIDENT: JOSEPH JENKINS ROBERTS" edited by C.W. Tazewell. It is about Mr. ROBERTS (1809-1876), a black man from Virginia, who became the first president of Liberia. Hester ==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== The CARIBBEAN-L FAQ can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~caribgw/mailinglistfaq.htm.

On 7/5/03 5:23 PM, "Ann Whiting" wrote: > In 1865, 346 blacks from Barbados immigrated to Liberia, does anyone have a > list or source of one? > Ann Hi Ann/List The family, from this group of immigrants, that was to become one of the most successful and influential in steering that country through some (other) troubled times were the Barclays. The Barclays immigrated from Bridgetown, Barbados in 1865 and the father died that same year leaving the mother (and the close knit West Indian community) to support and take care of the family. I've forwarded a copy of your email to the family historian just in case he would like to join this thread. Unfortunately I've loaned out what books I have that specifically deals with the "Barclay boys" (Arthur and Ernest, and Ernest' now famous son Edwin) monumental contribution to black history in general and Liberia in particular. As soon as I get them back I'll provide additional postings. From memory I recall that two brothers Arthur (1854-1938) and Ernest (1847-1894) Barclay served under Liberia's President Cheesseman: Arthur as Secretary of Treasury and Ernest as Secretary of State. Following in his father's footsteps Edwin Barclay (1882-1955) also served as Secretary of State (1920-30) under President King. I've summarized some information on the Barclays from the only source I currently have below: Burrowes, Ph. D. Carl Patrick. (1994) Press Freedom in Liberia, 1830-1970: The impact of modernity, ethnicity and power imbalances on government-press relations. Temple University. 1923 began one of the most trying period of Liberia's constitutional rule as Africa's first (and then only) Republic. At the time there was enormous political and economic tension brought on because of white (Firestone) control of the major sectors of the government, massive black immigration for which the government was not adequately prepared, and issues (and battles) relating to the incorporation of indigenous relations. In 1929 Thomas Faulkner (a People's Party candidate against King) charged the King administration with voters fraud and forced labor procurement. This led to a League of Nations investigation. Faced with the possibility of US or the League establishing a mandate over Liberia (effectively placing the entire government under US/European control) Liberians called for King's resignation. On October of 1930 King and his vice president tendered their resignation to the legislature. The legislature accepted their resignation and immediately swore in Edwin Barclay as Liberia's 18th President (1930-1944). Edwin completed King's term and was elected to his own term as President in 1931. As president, Edwin Barclay survived numerous colonial attempts to take over the country (including a outright conquest by France and a Firestone backed coup), and is credited by historians as saving Liberia's sovereignty through the 1980s. One interesting side note. In a recent documentary covering Liberia's recent slide into chaos, there is a portion of the film that shows hundreds of Liberians fleeing the on going fighting in vessels headed for Ghana. As the ships head out to sea the displaced nationals (men, women and children) burst out singing "The Lone Star, Forever" -- a song written over a hundred years ago by a then 19 year old Edwin Barclay. Earl -- Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.

Ann: there is someone in Barbados who is researching the Barbadian families who left for Liberia, but I have not been in touch with her for some time. In the past I have worked with her on researching some of those families, but I do not have a complete list of the names of all those who returned to Africa; however she probably does (I know she has actually met some of the Liberian descendants), so I shall try to contact her and find out as she is not on this List, and I wouldn't want to name her without her permission. I shall let you know if and when I find out more. Ernest Ernest M. Wiltshire Friends of the Barbados Archives 38 Inglewood Place, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1Y 4C7 -----Original Message----- From: Ann Whiting [mailto:aqw8326@hotmail.com] Subject: Reverse Immigration In 1865, 346 blacks from Barbados immigrated to Liberia, does anyone have a list or source of one? Ann

Subject: re: reverse immigration I would like to know how to get information from Liberia. My direct ancestor from St. Croix, Rev. John SEYS, then living in the USA, was appointed as Minister Resident/Consul General to Liberia in 1866. He maped the area of Careysburg. The map is now in the possession of The American Colonization Society. There is supposedly a monument honoring him in Liberia. He was a bishop in Liberia, also. There is a book, "VIRGINIA'S NINTH PRESIDENT: JOSEPH JENKINS ROBERTS" edited by C.W. Tazewell. It is about Mr. ROBERTS (1809-1876), a black man from Virginia, who became the first president of Liberia. Hester

Perhaps but there was a whole kingdom not just a village. Maybe a village is all that is left.

Your Lawango must be LOANGO, a small village 15 miles away from nowadays Pointe-Noire in Congo. One of the main points in the slave trade. "Tim Anderson" <timuna@starpower.net> a écrit dans le message de news: j4v8gv0aa1auevimu7gltfufpmlp0kui0k@4ax.com... > I believe that I found this reference. I have copied the entire footnotes, > which I think are interesting. I came across this trying to find Lawango. The > only reference to Lawango in Africa is the following and one other in which > Lawango is a song title. Calabar, city and seaport, southeastern Nigeria, > capital of Cross River State, on an estuary of the Gulf of Guinea. The city is > the market center for the surrounding area in which cacao, palm oil, piassava, > rubber, and timber are produced. (Calabar see: > http://www.greatestcities.com/Africa/Nigeria/Calabar_city.html) > > > Slave cargoes Footnotes (see: > http://www.mapesmonde.com/books/danish-west-indies/danish_bibliography.pdf) > 1 One hundred and eighty-seven "manquerons" were delivered back to the captain, > who sold one hundred and twentyseven > to private buyers for 5,459 rdl. Muller's cargo is put down as consisting of > Lawango negroes; those arriving in > July are called "Calabary" or Kalbarie" negroes.,----En English, Calabar. > 2 De Witte, being able to account only for three hundred and one when he should > have had three hundred and twelve, > was charged with the difference or "profit" of 35 rdl. each, or 385 rdl. The > Company bought two hundred and thirtyeight > (229œ Pies de Indies) at 65 rdl. each. Many of those remaining were delivered > back to the captain who sold them > to planters and paid the Company the four per cent. duty. N. J., St. Thomas, > 1709-1710. > 3 This includes men and women. Of the two hundred and twenty-nine, forty-nine > were sick or "manquerons" as were > six of the sixteen boys. Two hundred were bought first, and fifty-three later. > 4 Capt. S. died immediately after arrival and Capt. Anthony Warene (Vareny) took > his place. The remainder of the > cargo (six hundred and twenty-six on arrival at St. Thomas) that was unsold or > still alive was taken to Porto Bello and > Carthagena. > 5 Besides these, the Company received eight in duty. > 6 Jachumson's cargo consisted of Angola slaves. > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:17:29 +0000 (UTC), aqw8326@hotmail.com ("Ann Whiting") > wrote: > > >I have just began my Dutch/Danish Trading research, but I ran across the > >following. > > > >1/1709, Capt. H.C. Tonder arrived with slaves from Calabary, > >8/1709, Cpt. Muller, arrived with 187 slaves, 138-m, 22-w, 19-b, 3-g, from > >Lawango. > >6/1712, Cpt. Jpchumsen, arrived with 178 slaves from Angola. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > >

The mandingo empire used to cover areas such as part of Mali, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Senegal and Mauritania. Some of the Mandingo tribes are Malinké, Bambara, Soninké, Peuls and Dioulas "Dean de Freitas" <caribgw@bellsouth.net> a écrit dans le message de news: 7D69CCE8-ADB2-11D7-9918-000A9588C052@bellsouth.net... > I posted this a while back, but it's pertinent to the current thread. > > TRINIDAD SLAVE CENSUS OF 1813 > Number of slaves 25,696 > Creole (i.e born in the West Indies) 11,633 (46% of total) > African 13,984 (54% of total) > > BREAKDOWN OF AFRICAN BORN SLAVES > Ibo (S.E. Nigeria) 2,863 - 20% of African > Congo (Congo) 2,450 - 20% > Moco (Cameroons) 2,240 - 17% > Mandingo (Senegambia) 1,421 - 10% > Kormantyn (Ghana - includes Fanti, Ashanti & others) - 1,068 - 7% > Kwakwa (Ivory Coast) 473 - 3% > Sierra Leone (Temne 169, Sisu 145, Kissi 63) - 377 2.5% > Ibibio (Nigeria) 371 - 2.5% > Raddah (Dahomey) 281 - 2% > Chamba (Nigeria?) 275 - 2% > Fulani (N. Sierra Leone) 171 - 1.2% > Popo (Dahomey) 112 - 1% > Hausa (N. Nigeria) 109 - 1% > Yoruba (W. Nigeria) 10 - 0.07% > Various tribes under 1% 818 - 6% > Only port of departure known - 8.73% > > Source: "Seven Slaves and Slavery - Trinidad 1777-1838", by Father > Anthony de Verteuil C.S.Sp., Scrip-J Printers, Port-of-Spain, 1992. > > The book relates the life stories of seven slaves in Trinidad to > illustrate how they lived. It contains a chapter on the slave trade, > and many vignettes on slave life. >

In 1865, 346 blacks from Barbados immigrated to Liberia, does anyone have a list or source of one? Ann "Sharing the information." Researching the USVI, St.Eustatius, St. Barths, Barbados _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Lisa, I noticed the name Davis. I had an aunt, Edna Grosvenor (ca. 1905-1939) who married a Carl Davis in New York--his place of birth not known. They are both deceased, and I have lost contact with their children, Beverly Davis who would possibly be 67-68 years old, and her brother Carl Jr. who would be possibly 60 or so. My aunt, Edna, was born in Trinidad to two Barbadians, Frederick Grosvenor and his wife, Georgiana Hunt. Does any of this have anything to do with your Davis family? Nevilla E. Ottley Lisa wrote: >My goodness! My great grandfather! I feel like someone just walked on my >grave - or his. Joseph Carter Clarke. The man was a carpenter. I don't >know where Content was. And Ian's Joseph Davis ( who heaven know's might >be mine too if I ever find out who my grandfather was.) I wonder who Ann & >Sarah are & could they lead to who Joseph was? hmm & will have to check >the other Clarkes too. You have to be careful when you send me this stuff >as I then have so many questions! > >Was St Joe different in having so many small landowners? Or was this just >the time? or was it everywhere that had a "below the cliff"?? Seems to >have been a lot of shifting going on at the time. I have a copy of the >Will of Robert James Haynes ( I think a son of the one who owned Frizer's at >the time my GGgrandfather was buried "in the vault") The will says - c >1848 - that Frizer's was leased, & had been for 9 years - to Nathaniel >Jones Pile, Francis King, and I believe Francis Hodgkinson. Frizer's was >to be sold if they didn't want to renew the lease for another 10yrs in 1849. >( BTW --- RJHaynes had departed and lived in St Michael. He left all his >household goods & £ 9000 to a "coloured" (whatever that means - I guess >that someone could still remember you had some black in you ) Elizabeth Ann >Gibson - likely from St Joe as she was a laborer on Frizer's at one >baptism - & the 5 children she bore him.) > > >I have to remember that any profession - carpenter, cooper, fisherman was a >necessary part of the economy and of some importance. Can't have barrels >for the sugar without the cooper. > >I am just really suprised - I was thinking he roamed the parish being a >carpenter & eventually got a few roods - by not till later. He was a >long-lived man - did not die till 1890, outlived many of his peers, & >produced 17 children of 3 wives, my grandmother the youngest. Must have >seen a lot of changes. > >You're a peach - thanks --- &&&& when is the case scheduled to be >heard? Who all is going to UK? > >Happy 4th of July -- the day after which we didn't care about "the other >guy's history" anymore !! No work till Monday & my oldest son's birthday - a >firecraker they said, although I don't exactly remember it that way. >Lisa > >>From: "Applied Technologies Inc." <apt@caribsurf.com> >>Date: 2003/07/03 Thu PM 10:00:38 CDT >>To: "Sales Consultants of Middlesex County, Inc." >> ><scmidlsx@bellatlantic.net> > >>Subject: Re: Is this yours? >> >>Lisa >> >>Thanks again fo the list. >> >>Was at the archives today and was looking at an 1847 list of landowners >> >who > >>owned greater than one acre in each parish. Extracted the following >> >>St. John: John McCollins Attempt 14 acres >> Robert Clarke Coach Hill 3 acres >> Thomas Clarke dec. Below Cliff 14 acres 2 foods >> Rev. RNB Clarke Haynes Hill 121 acres 3 roods >> >>St. Joseph Joseph B. Davis Near Bathsheba 4 acres 2 roods >> Ann S. Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre >> Sarah E. Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre >> John & Charles Davis Near Bathsheba 1 acre >> George W. Clarke Near Mount wilton 2 acres >> Joseph C. Clarke Near Content 2 acres >> Richard Clarke Near Cambridge 1 acre >> >>Looked for Glenburnie but did not see it listed. In St. Joseph it looks >>like almost the whole parish was owned by about 200 persons. In 1817 there >>were a few thousand slaves registered and heaven only knows how many >>landless whites. >> >>Rate books seem not to be available prior to the early 1900's but imagine >>there would be a wealth of info in them. >> >>John >> >> > > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >Before posting a query, check to see if the question has already been asked on the List. All messages posted to CARIBBEAN-L are archived by date or thread at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CARIBBEAN. You can search the archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CARIBBEAN. > >

"Ewe" is also a language from Ghana, West Africa. My husband's family speak Ewe. Would that tribal name have anything to do with the people who immigrated to Guiana in centuries gone by? Nevilla Richard Bond wrote: >Tribal names in monograph on Guiana with French spellings > >Mallais, Mahlay...Mali three months inland > >Jaquin, Shakwa > >Ayois, Ahywah...Ewe > > >==== CARIBBEAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the list send the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) as the only text in the body of an email message to CARIBBEAN-L-request@rootsweb.com for the list mode or CARIBBEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com if you are subscribed to the digest. > >

Bonsoir , je renouvelle ma demande Je recherche des renseignements sur CARBONNEL Françoise lucie nee 1865 en france , et decedee tres certainement a CUBA , dans les annees 1930 Merci d'avance Veronique .ROCAFULLE

Tribal names in monograph on Guiana with French spellings Mallais, Mahlay...Mali three months inland Jaquin, Shakwa Ayois, Ahywah...Ewe

List -- I mistakenly cross-posted a personal email to the list, & ask that you please ignore etc - very embarrassing - sorry - Lisa