On Nov 5, 7:05 am, "Emanuel, Yvonne E CIV USA AMC" <[email protected]> wrote: > Cathy, > I belong to the > roost web group. We (Grenada/St Vincent/Trinidad/Panama etc.etc. > Researchers) > may be able to shed some light on your inquery. What surmanes are you > researching. > > Yvonne aka Cuzin' Choli > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Grenada Researcher > > Hello All, > > Does anyone out there know a researcher in Grenada who might be > interested in searching for some Catholic birth, marriage, death > information for me? > > Failing that, does anyone know a priest who for a donation to the church > would be willing to look up a few things in the records? > > This is not information that is available on the LDS microfilms. > > Any suggestions or ideas would be much appreciated. Travelling to do it > myself is not feasible at the moment. > > Cathy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi Yvonne, Thanks for your reply. I'm researching the name "Aquart" and I have some specific information that I'm looking for from the Catholic Records. I'm using the LDS microfilms for what I can get from those. If you can help out that would be great. Please feel free to contact me privately. Cathy

Cathy, I belong to the roost web group. We (Grenada/St Vincent/Trinidad/Panama etc.etc. Researchers) may be able to shed some light on your inquery. What surmanes are you researching. Yvonne aka Cuzin' Choli -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Grenada Researcher Hello All, Does anyone out there know a researcher in Grenada who might be interested in searching for some Catholic birth, marriage, death information for me? Failing that, does anyone know a priest who for a donation to the church would be willing to look up a few things in the records? This is not information that is available on the LDS microfilms. Any suggestions or ideas would be much appreciated. Travelling to do it myself is not feasible at the moment. Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Hodges are numerous in the BVI too. One of our longest serving legislators bears that name. Bezaliel Hodge was the largest landowner in the (British) Virgin Islands in the late 1700s and one of the richest men in the Caribbean. The 1798 Tortola Plantation Map shows that he left to his "Heirs" about 20 estates scattered around the island and that William Ronan Hodge and Arthur Hodge also owned some. Arthur Hodge is notorious as the only slave owner in the British West Indies to be have been executed for murdering one of his slaves. The wide publicity given his appalling cruelty revitalised the British anti-slavery movement, which had paused for breath after the abolition of the slave trade. John Andrew's /The Hanging of Arthur Hodge - A Caribbean Anti-Slavery Milestone/ (2000) is partly based on a contemporary report of the case, which is downloadable from Google Books. Peter Moll Tortola BVI vettie finch wrote: > Hello gary hodge, > > I'm relatively new to searching myself. I am from St. Thomas, now the U.S. > Virgin Islands, which is comprised of a chain of islands called St. John, > St. Croix and St. Thomas We are located in the southern Caribbean. Your > family name (Hodge) is a very prominent name here. Prior to becoming a > territory of the United States in 1917, these islands Virgin Islands, were > owned by the Denmark and was called the Danish West Indies. According to > census records, your family migrated here in the early 1800's. Today, they > are among our judges, doctors, lawyers, and well to put it simply, > successful business men/women in our community. The Hodge's are also from a > small island called Anguilla, even more prominent that those in St. Thomas. > You can go to ancestors.com and look up the census for the early 1900's and > see where it leads. The history of our ancestors is amazing and even though > you might get frustrated with the search, don't give up. I've been able to > trace my ancestors back to 1772. I'm hoping to go back even further - to > Ghana, where I believe I'll find what tribe my ancestors were from. Keep > the faith. > > Vettie from St. Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of J hodge > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Spam:*****, matthew hatchett > > Hi List > > I am a newcomer to this list , I have an ancestor by the name of Matthew > sidesman HATCHETT ,born according to census as West Indies, I have > located another researcher of same name looking for same in west indies, > but cannot contact him, from what information he gives he states Matthew > was born in St Thomas. > > Can anyone help me with this place and whereabouts it is , and or if any > other listers are researching the same surname ,can you please get in > touch with me. > > I live in england. > > Gary Hodge

Thanks Cecilia, I think you are, again, quite right. David On Nov 4, 2007, at 2:29 PM, cecilia wrote: > David Daniell wrote: >> a majority of them were his very near relations by blood or alliance, >> Mr. Wyke being Mr. Fry's own nephew, Mr. Irish married his neice, and >> is also his relation in blood, Mr. Cook and Mr. Hodges are his cozin >> Germans ; which if I shou'd have openly mention'd wou'd have been >> accusing them of partiallity; . . . " >> [...] seems to be saying they are all related to my ancestor Wm >> Irish! > > Not necessarily. > > It would still fit the above if Cook, Hodges and Irish were on > different sides of the Fry family and not related to each other. > Similarly (and I forgot this before <sorry>) they need not have been > related to the Wykes if Fry and his sister(s) were half-siblings. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hello All, Does anyone out there know a researcher in Grenada who might be interested in searching for some Catholic birth, marriage, death information for me? Failing that, does anyone know a priest who for a donation to the church would be willing to look up a few things in the records? This is not information that is available on the LDS microfilms. Any suggestions or ideas would be much appreciated. Travelling to do it myself is not feasible at the moment. Cathy

Many thanks for that listing Ernest. Its most interesting but I found it very confusing. I would be very grateful for that info in a Gedcom file and then I might better understand the many links. How on earth did it happen that you made the mistake of stating that Sarah Wyke had no children by William Irish!!? Here's one of my own dodgy trees, this one for Byam and it includes a Thomas Tudor Tucker RN as I see you have an interest in Tudors. with kind regards, David ========================================== Rev Lawrence Byam | Rev Edward Byam | | William Byam (9 Mar 1623 - ) & Dorothy Knollys | | | Lieut-Colonel Willoughby Byam ( - 1690) & Rebecca Winthrop | | | | Colonel William Byam & Mary Yeamans | | | | | Edward Byam (1712 - 1768) & Lydia Byam ( - 5 Dec 1767) | | | | | | William Byam ( - 1779) & Martha Rogers | | | | | | | Edward Byam (1767 - 1795) & Christiana Matilda Ryan (1769 - 20 Jan 1847) | | | | | | | | Sir William Byam & Martha Rogers | | | | | | | | | Edward Gamage Byam (30 Jun 1823 - ) | | | | | | | | | William Byam (10 Feb 1826 - ) | | | | | | | | | Lydia Byam & Francis Shand | | | | | | | | | Martha Anne Byam | | | | | | | | | Elizabeth Christiana Byam | | | | | | | | Lt-General Edward Byam (1794 - bef 1878) & Elizabeth Augusta Temple (1802 - 15 Apr 1878) | | | | | | | | | Willoughby Temple Byam (1832 - ) | | | | | | | | | Henry Edward Byam (1835 - ) | | | | | | | | | Arthur Merick Byam | | | | | | | | | Edward Willoughby Grenville Byam | | | | | | | | | Matilda Augusta Anne Byam | | | | | | | | | Agnes welthian Byam | | | | | | | | | Maria Christiana Elizabeth Byam | | | | | | | | | Augusta Temple Byam | | | | | | | | | Ellen Gladys Byam | | | | | | | Rev Samuel Byam D D (2 Sep 1769 - 24 Apr 1816) & Jane Akers Welsh ( - 26 Nov 1847) | | | | | | | | William George Munton Byam | | | | | | | | Capt Adolphus Elizabeth Byam | | | | | | | | Henry James Byam | | | | | | | | Cornelia Rachel Byam & Baron Augustus De Firkes | | | | | | | | Augusta Louisa Anne Byam & Frederick Shallet Lomax | | | | | | | Lydia Byam (abt 1772 - ) | | | | | | Lydia Byam (1752 - ) | | | | | John Sampson Byam ( - 1766) | | | | | Rev Dr Henry Byam D D ( - 1760) | | | | | | Anne Byam | | | | | | Hester Byam & Anthony Manton | | | | | | Mary Gunthorpe Byam & Colonel William Dundas | | | | | Mary Byam & Warner Tempest | | | | | | Henrietta Tempest & Marmaduke Dayrell | | | | | Anne Byam & Crooke Thomas | | | | | Rebecca Byam & Thomas Freeman | | | | | | Arthur Freeman ( - 1780) & Margaret Thomas | | | | | | | Inigo Freeman \ Thomas* & Charlotte Peirce | | | | | | | Inigo Freeman \ Thomas* & Frances Middleton | | | | | | | Lieut-Colonel George Thomas Freeman ( - Nov 1827) | | | | | | Thomas Freeman ( - 1815) & Anne Wickham | | | | | | | Thomas Freeman & Christiana Ffry ( - 23 Feb 1808) | | | | | | | | Thomas Inigo Wickman Freeman | | | | | | | Arthur Freeman | | | | | | Byam Freeman & Anne Watkins | | | | | | | Harriet Freeman & Thomas Oliver | | | | | | | | Alice Oliver & Captain Haynes R N | | | | | | | | Emily Oliver & Elton | | | | | | Robert Freeman | | | | | | Charles Freeman | | | | | | Elizabeth Freeman | | | | | | Rebecca Freeman | | | | | | Charlotte Freeman & Major-General Sherrington Talbot (1699 - ) | | | | | | | Indiana Talbot (28 Jul 1751 - ) & Lewis Peake Garland ( - 1780) | | | | | | | | Nathaniel Garland | | | | | | | | Peake Garland | | | | | | Mary Freeman | | | | Samuel Byam | | | | | Samuel Byam | | | | | | Phillis Byam* ( - Feb 1829) & Charlton Wollaton | | | | | | Phillis Byam* ( - Feb 1829) & James Frampton (Oct 1711 - 28 Oct 1784) | | | | | | | James Frampton (4 Sep 1769 - ) & Harriott Fox-Strangways ( - 6 Aug 1844) | | | | | | | | James Frampton | | | | | | | | Henry Frampton | | | | | | | | William Charlton Frampton | | | | | | | | Harriet Georgiana Frampton | | | | | | | | Louisa Charlotte Frampton | | | | | | | Mary Frampton | | | Brigadier General Edward Byam* (9 Jan 1662 - 4 Dec 1741) & Sarah or Mary Winthrop | | | | Edward Byam | | | | Mary Byam & Colonel Thomas Williams | | | Brigadier General Edward Byam* (9 Jan 1662 - 4 Dec 1741) & Lydia Thomas ( - 2 Dec 1744) | | | | George Byam (24 Apr 1704 - before 21 Feb 1734/1735) & Henrietta Maria Frye | | | | | George Byam ( - Nov 1779) & Louisa Bathurst ( - 1779) | | | | | | Selina Byam (1760 - 3 Jul 1846) & Rev. William Hony ( - 7 Jan 1795) | | | | | | | William Edward Hony Ven Archdeacon & Margaret Earle | | | | | | Elizabeth Byam ( - 1830) & Mark Balt | | | | | | George Byam ( - 1774) | | | | | | Louisa Byam | | | | | | Henrietta Byam | | | | | Mary Byam* & Joseph Lyons | | | | | Mary Byam* & Daniel Mathew (abt 1719 - 1777) | | | | | | Daniel Byam Mathew ( - 25 Apr 1838) & Elizabeth Dering | | | | | | | Daniel Dering Mathew | | | | | | | Eliza Mathew & W Roe | | | | | | | | Fanny Roe & Chaloner Ogle | | | | | | George Mathew & Euphemia Hamilton | | | | | | Elizabeth Mathew ( - 1801) & Robert Monckton 4th Viscount Galway (1758 - 1810) | | | | | | | William George Monckton | | | | | | | Henrietta Maria Monckton & Robert Pemberton Milnes | | | | | | Louisa Mathew & Admiral Lord Gambier | | | | | | Jane Mathew & Samuel J Gambier | | | | | | Mary Mathew | | | | Colonel William Byam (3 Jul 1706 - 26 Sep 1755) & Anne Gunthorpe ( - 3 Dec 1779) | | | | | Martin Byam (29 Sep 1742 - Jun 1805) & Elizabeth Blizard | | | | | Lieutenant Edward Byam R N (15 Sep 1743 - Sep 1782) & Lydia Byam Gunthorpe | | | | | | Captain William Henry Byam R N (16 Feb 1776 - 26 Nov 1838) & Alicia Wyke | | | | | | Louisa Byam ( - 1835) | | | | | Capt William Byam (17 Nov 1753 - 27 Apr 1830) & Mary Burgh | | | | | | Martin William Byam (1783 - 22 Apr 1836) & Elizabeth Bull | | | | | | Rev Richard Burgh Byam (26 Jan 1785 - ) | | | | | | Edward Samuel Byam (5 Aug 1788 - ) & Eleanor Prior | | | | | | | Edward de Montmorency Byam (6 Aug 1819 - 6 Oct 1819) | | | | | | Martha Byam | | | | | | Anna Maria Byam | | | | | | Alicia Juliana Byam & William Leeves | | | | | Anne Byam & Anthony Wyke | | | | | | Capt George Wyke | | | | | | Anne Byam Wyke & Daniel Hill ( - 16 Jun 1811) | | | | | | | Martin Byam Hill | | | | | | | Henry Munton Hill | | | | | | | George Hill | | | | | | | Thomas Kerby Hill | | | | | | | Major-General Sir William Hill ( - 24 Aug 1886) & Sibylla Philpotts | | | | | | | Anne Wyke Hill (21 Jan 1790 - ) & Rear-Admiral Thomas Tudor Tucker R N | | | | | | | Alicia Hill & John Osborne | | | | | | Louisa Wyke ( - May 1801) & Captain Henry Mitford R N (12 Sep 1769 - 24 Dec 1803) | | | | | | | William Reveley Mitford | | | | | | | Frances Mitford & Bertram Osbaldeston-Mitford (17 Dec 1777 - 27 Feb 1842) | | | | | | | Louisa Mitford ( - 1826) | | | | | | Alicia Wyke & Captain William Henry Byam R N (16 Feb 1776 - 26 Nov 1838) | | | | | Alice Byam & Samuel Eliot | | | | | | Anne Eliot & Lieutenant General Henry Cosby | | | | | | Elizabeth Eliot ( - 3 Jul 1848) & Sir Thomas Stapleton 6th Baronet 12th Lord le Despenser (10 Nov 1766 - 3 Oct 1831) | | | | | | | Thomas Stapleton (24 Apr 1792 - 1 Jun 1829) & Maria Wynne Bankes ( - 15 Oct 1823) | | | | | | | | Mary Frances Elizabeth Stapleton Baroness le Despenser ihor (24 Mar 1822 - 20 Nov 1891) & Evelyn Boscawen 6th Viscount Boscawen (18 Mar 1819 - 6 Nov 1889) | | | | | | | Lieutenant William Stapleton (2 Dec 1797 - 26 Sep 1826) | | | | | | | Rev Miles John Stapleton (21 Jan 1801 - 11 Jun 1830) & Anne Byam Kerby ( - 14 Nov 1842) | | | | | | | | Adelaide Stapleton | | | | | | | | Anne Byam Stapleton | | | | | | | | Jane Elizabeth Stapleton | | | | | | | Sir Francis Stapleton 7th Baronet (6 Aug 1807 - 11 Feb 1874) & Margaret Airey ( - 7 Feb 1880) | | | | | | | Maria Frances Catherine Stapleton (22 Sep 1794 - 25 Feb 1861) & Robert Jocelyn 3rd Earl of Roden (27 Oct 1788 - 20 Mar 1870) | | | | | | | Emma Stapleton (27 Feb 1796 - 29 Dec 1879) & Charles Brodrick 6th Viscount Midleton (14 Oct 1791 - 2 Dec 1863) | | | | | | | Emily Stapleton & Lieut.-General Hon Sir Hercules Robert Pakenham ( - 8 Mar 1850) | | | | | | | Anna Frances Esther Stapleton (15 Apr 1805 - 20 Aug 1861) & Henry Maxwell 7th Lord Farnham (9 Aug 1799 - 20 Aug 1868) | | | | | | | Elizabeth Mary Stapleton ( - 30 Dec 1823) | | | | | | | Frances Stapleton ( - 1835) | | | | | | Mary Eliot & Lieut-Colonel Robert Camden Cope | | | | | | | Arthur Cope (1814 - 1844) | | | | | | Alicia Eliot ( - 24 Apr 1812) & William Hay \ Carr \ Hay 17th Earl of Erroll (12 Mar 1772 - 26 Jan 1819) | | | | | | | William George Hay 18th Earl of Erroll (21 Feb 1801 - 19 Apr 1846) & Elizabeth Fitzclarence (17 Jan 1801 - 16 Jan 1856) | | | | Rev Francis Byam (8 Aug 1709 - 1757) & Jane Warner | | | | | Brigadier-General Edward Byam (21 Dec 1740 - 8 Feb 1817) & Rebecca Blizard | | | | | | Jane Byam ( - 2 Dec 1837) & Thomas Norbury Kerby | | | | | | | Anne Byam Kerby ( - 14 Nov 1842) & Rev Miles John Stapleton (21 Jan 1801 - 11 Jun 1830) | | | | | | | | Adelaide Stapleton | | | | | | | | Anne Byam Stapleton | | | | | | | | Jane Elizabeth Stapleton | | | | | Sir Ashton Warner Byam ( - 1 Jun 1744) | | | | | Richard Scott Byam (24 Dec 1753 - 1832) | | | | | Grace Johnson Byam & Thomas Ottley | | | | Alice Byam & Robert Freeman | | | | Lydia Byam ( - 5 Dec 1767) & Edward Byam (1712 - 1768) | | | | | William Byam ( - 1779) & Martha Rogers | | | | | | Edward Byam (1767 - 1795) & Christiana Matilda Ryan (1769 - 20 Jan 1847) | | | | | | | Sir William Byam & Martha Rogers | | | | | | | | Edward Gamage Byam (30 Jun 1823 - ) | | | | | | | | William Byam (10 Feb 1826 - ) | | | | | | | | Lydia Byam & Francis Shand | | | | | | | | Martha Anne Byam | | | | | | | | Elizabeth Christiana Byam | | | | | | | Lt-General Edward Byam (1794 - bef 1878) & Elizabeth Augusta Temple (1802 - 15 Apr 1878) | | | | | | | | Willoughby Temple Byam (1832 - ) | | | | | | | | Henry Edward Byam (1835 - ) | | | | | | | | Arthur Merick Byam | | | | | | | | Edward Willoughby Grenville Byam | | | | | | | | Matilda Augusta Anne Byam | | | | | | | | Agnes Welthian Byam | | | | | | | | Maria Christiana Elizabeth Byam | | | | | | | | Augusta Temple Byam | | | | | | | | Ellen Gladys Byam | | | | | | Rev Samuel Byam D D (2 Sep 1769 - 24 Apr 1816) & Jane Akers Welsh ( - 26 Nov 1847) | | | | | | | William George Munton Byam | | | | | | | Capt Adolphus Elizabeth Byam | | | | | | | Henry James Byam | | | | | | | Cornelia Rachel Byam & Baron Augustus De Firkes | | | | | | | Augusta Louisa Anne Byam & Frederick Shallet Lomax | | | | | | Lydia Byam (abt 1772 - ) | | | | | Lydia Byam (1752 - ) On Nov 4, 2007, at 2:53 AM, Ernest M. Wiltshire wrote: > Some of the Antigua families you mention (esp. Byam, Martin, Warner) > are > quite central to my research, as they tie in to my Barbados families > the > others peripheral, and I have not studied them in great detail. I > dont have > time to respond more fully now, as to day I am going walkabout... > I attach a bit of Frye & Wyke (footnotes & sources not included) > until I > finish walkabout, and might be more help! Hope this is useful in the > meantime. There is much more, but probably better done off-list as I > think > this is too long already. > Ernest Wiltshire

David Daniell wrote: >a majority of them were his very near relations by blood or alliance, >Mr. Wyke being Mr. Fry's own nephew, Mr. Irish married his neice, and >is also his relation in blood, Mr. Cook and Mr. Hodges are his cozin >Germans ; which if I shou'd have openly mention'd wou'd have been >accusing them of partiallity; . . . " >[...] seems to be saying they are all related to my ancestor Wm >Irish! Not necessarily. It would still fit the above if Cook, Hodges and Irish were on different sides of the Fry family and not related to each other. Similarly (and I forgot this before <sorry>) they need not have been related to the Wykes if Fry and his sister(s) were half-siblings.

hi Cecilia, Thank you for putting me right. Does this make sense now? a majority of them were his very near relations by blood or alliance, Mr. Wyke being Mr. Fry's own nephew, Mr. Irish married his neice, and is also his relation in blood, Mr. Cook and Mr. Hodges are his cozin Germans ; which if I shou'd have openly mention'd wou'd have been accusing them of partiallity; . . . " this is what I know including that imputed from the above passage: FRY(e) - William Frye a member of the Council (brother of the wife of Edward Wyke so uncle of the next) [can any other arrangement fit? I think not.] WYKE - George Wyke a son of Edward Wyke 1682-? sometime lieutenant- governor of the Island [I agree with your comments. Also Sarah and George might have same father but different mothers] IRISH - William Irish, abt 1690-1725 spouse of Sarah Wyke, abt 1708-1748 d/o Edward above. Widowed she married Col. Samuel Martin COOK and HODGES - first cousins to William Frye (= cousins german) and so the same to Wyke? Because, it seems to me, all the relationships are to Wm Frye, the man in trouble. I know this is not quite the way you analysed it but do you now disagree with any part of it? This is quite important to me - the statement seems to be saying they are all related to my ancestor Wm Irish! Sorry to be a nuisance. cheers, David On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:05 AM, cecilia wrote: > David Daniell wrote: >> " . . . Upon which I suspended the said Fry from setting any more in >> . . . . . . > FRY is uncle of WYKE, not nephew. > > COOK and HODGES would be related to WYKE, first cousins to his mother > so first cousin once removed to him. > > If Sarah Wyke is a child of Edward Wyke, it is possibly that WYKE is > also, or Sarah and WYKE may be first cousins with their mothers being > sisters, nee Fry, who married two (one each) men named Wyke that need > not have been brothers, but (given the size of the community) were > probably related. > > There is no indication above how FRY and IRISH are related. I think > it likely to be more distant than first cousin once removed, or it > would have been spelled out, unless the point was felt to have already > been adequately made. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Chris, I'm very sorry I found your message when I was at least 50% asleep and deteriorating rapidly. That was a great opportunity and if you get the chance to make the offer again I'd really like to know what can be found there. Particularly as it seems - as Cecilia points out - I must be a Frye descendant. There seems to be no copy of V L Oliver's History of Antigua (but there is a Caribbeana) in New Zealand in a public library or our National Library. I've just re-checked that. Six or seven years ago I rented the LDS film and after several hours at a microfilm reader decided my Irish family featured so little it was not worth the hassle. Now on a re-visit and with wider horizons I realise the within-W-I family relationships were much more involved than I'd realised. Back to your generous offer. While transcripts would be great and would be shared with the List, scans are a better use of time. However sometime soon I will rent The History of Antigua film again so I'd be grateful for a steer towards the parts likely to be of most interest. I didn't realise THoA had will transcripts in it. I've cobbled up from published sources not totally reliable trees for the following families. If these trees are of interest to anyone else I can put them on a personal website. Then it would be great if people told me where I'm wrong and where bits might be added. I only go up to the end of the 18th century thereafter being plain sailing. Blake Byam Cruikshank Freeman Frye Gibbes Hutchinson Irish Martin Stapleton Warner Webb Wyke Cheers David On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:08 AM, C.M. Codrington wrote: > Hi David > > I have The History of Antigua laid out with morning coffee and I'm > looking > over the will of William Fry, president of the Council of Montserrat > etc. > Gov Hart and he had a disagreement and in typical fashion Hart had > snit fit > and suspended the proceedings. > > I think Oliver has most of the relations in here...will try and jot > it all > down. Have you seen this? > > ChrisCod > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 385 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Dear Emily, I found some information on Ancestry - under 'Immigration' Passenger Lists (an entry in 1922, when he was about 2, and another in Nov. of 1941). I attempted to send you a link from the site. If this failed, I will be happy to try another way. Pat Quoting Emily Cheseborough <[email protected]>: > Thanks that would be good. > > On 10/30/07, Nevilla E Ottley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I will put you in touch with a Cheeseboro I know from Trinidad. > > > > Nevilla Ottley > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Emily Cheseborough > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:25 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: > > > > I am looking for anyone who has any information on a Edwin Cheseborough > > (an > > spelling variation) and/or a Zillah E Ryan. I have hit a block wall and > > will take any help offered. > > Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I do hope that you quaffed some ale upon that discovery !!!! Barb.

Thank you Barb That is a good one and they had their information straight....I tracked that fellow and his father's path through Brittany with my French wife in 1996...it was fascinating....Englishmen in France during the revolution. William's fathers first wife was executed in Dinan on the Guillotine...quite accidently my wife and I took a room in a Dinan café one night situated on a square near a very old church....it turned out to be the location of her execution......ooooooh! Who says Gen isn't fun Thanks again ChrisCod -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 389 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

**From a newspaper which I am transcribing for the Google-Cumberland, UK Group; thought it might be useful** Barb, Ontario, Canada ________________________________________________ PENRITH HERALD AND EAST CUMBERLAND & WESTMORLAND NEWS., January 3, 1874. / Death of a Baronet/CODRINGTON No. 433. - First Week in Quarter. PRICE ONE PENNY. Registered for Transmission Abroad =========================================== DEATH OF A BARONET./CODRINGTON The death of Sir WILLIAM RAIMOND CODRINGTON, Bart., took place at Chateau de la Boullaye, his residence at Montfort, in Brittany, on the 17th Dec., at the age of 67 years. The deceased was the only son of the late Sir WILLIAM CODRINGTON, third baronet (who died in 1816), by his wife ELEANOR KIRKE, and was born at Rennes, in Brittany, in the year 1806. In 1828 he married ANNE MARY, daughter of Mons. JOSEPH LE FER BONABON, of St. Maloes, his eldest son by her being WILLIAM CODRINGTON, who now becomes fifth baronet. The new baronet was born in 1829, and married, in 1866, MARY, daughter of ROBERT ROSKELL, Esq., of Park House, Fulham. The title was created in 1721, and the first baronet's cousin, who was Governor of the Leeward Islands, left the sum of £10,000 to All Soul's College, Oxford, to erect and furnish a libarary. He also bequeathed an estate of £2000 per annum to the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, in order to erect and endow a college at Barbadoes, which bears his name.

Some of the Antigua families you mention (esp. Byam, Martin, Warner) are quite central to my research, as they tie in to my Barbados families the others peripheral, and I have not studied them in great detail. I dont have time to respond more fully now, as to day I am going walkabout... I attach a bit of Frye & Wyke (footnotes & sources not included) until I finish walkabout, and might be more help! Hope this is useful in the meantime. There is much more, but probably better done off-list as I think this is too long already. Ernest Wiltshire Frye Generation One 1. John1 FRYE (Planter) was born in of Antigua B.W.I. He and Katherine Tuck married. He and Mary King married. Children of John1 Frye (Planter) and Katherine Tuck were: 2. i. Col. John2 FRYE The Elder was born in of Antigua B.W.I. He and Frances married. He and Henrietta Warner married before 1696. He and Mary Blackman married before 1724. Children of John1 Frye (Planter) and Mary King were: 3. i. Samuel2 FRYE and Mary married. Generation Two 2. Col. John2 FRYE The Elder (John1) was born in of Antigua B.W.I. He and Frances married. He and Henrietta Warner married before 1696. He and Mary Blackman married before 1724. He died on 14 Aug 1747 in Antigua B.W.I.3 Children of Col. John2 Frye The Elder and Frances were as follows: i. William3 FFRYE. 4. ii. Frances FFRYE was born in 1713. She and Hon. Maj. John Duer married on 26 Apr 1739 in St. Philip's, Antigua B.W.I. Children of Col. John2 Frye The Elder and Henrietta Warner were as follows: i. Rowland3 FRYE. ii. Samuel FRYE. 5. iii. John FRYE Jun. Esq. was born in 1697. He and Elizabeth Morris married. 6. iv. Henrietta Maria FRYE was born in 1703. She and George Byam (merchant) married. Mary BLACKMAN died on 11 Jun 1769. There were no children of Col. John2 Frye The Elder and Mary Blackman. 3. Samuel2 FRYE (John1) and Mary married. Children of Samuel2 Frye and Frye Mary were: 7. i. Francis3 FRYE and Dorothy Doig married. Generation Three 4. Frances3 FFRYE (John2 Frye, John1) was born in 1713. She and Hon. Maj. John Duer married on 26 Apr 1739 in St. Philip's, Antigua B.W.I. She died on 3 Jul 1787. Hon. Maj. John DUER was born in 1697; he was of Duers, Antigua B.W.I. & of Fulham, London, Middlesex, England. He died on 1 Dec 1764. Children of Frances3 Ffrye and Hon. Maj. John Duer were as follows: i. Mary4 DUER. 8. ii. Theodora DUER was born between 1743 and 1744. She and Rt. Hon. George Rose married on 7 Jul 1769. iii. Henrietta DUER was born in 1746. She died on 11 May 1811. iv. Frances DUER was born in 1751. She died on 20 Sep 1835. v. Elizabeth Grace DUER was born in 1757. She died on 15 Sep 1835. 5. John3 FRYE Jun. Esq. (John2, John1) was born in 1697. He and Elizabeth Morris married. He died in 1745. Elizabeth MORRIS was born in 1710 in of Antigua B.W.I. She died on 6 Aug 1768 in Fulham, London, Middlesex, England. She was the daughter of Colonel Valentine Morris of Antigua. Children of John3 Frye Jun. Esq. and Elizabeth Morris were: i. Rowland4 FRYE was born in 1745 in Antigua B.W.I. 6. Henrietta Maria3 FRYE (John2, John1) was born in 1703. She and George Byam (merchant) married. She died in 1796. George BYAM (merchant) was christened on 29 Apr 1704 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. He died in 1733. He left a will on 29 Sep 1733 in Antigua B.W.I.4 Children of Henrietta Maria3 Frye and George Byam (merchant) were as follows: i. Lydia4 BYAM. ii. John BYAM. 9. iii. Mary BYAM LYONS-MATHEW was christened on 27 Jul 1730 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. She and Col. Joseph Lyons married on 21 Jun 1748 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. She and Daniel Mathew Esq. married on 8 May 1750 in St. Philip's, Antigua B.W.I. iv. Elizabeth BYAM was christened in 1731 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. v. Henrietta Maria BYAM was christened on 10 Apr 1733 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. vi. George BYAM was christened on 31 May 1734 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. 7. Francis3 FRYE (Samuel2, John1) and Dorothy Doig married. Children of Francis3 Frye and Dorothy Doig were as follows: 10. i. Christiana4 FRYE and Thomas Freeman married circa 1785? 11. ii. Dorothy FRYE and Thomas Warner married on 12 Feb 1790 in St. Mary's, Bridgetown, St. Michael, Barbados B.W.I. Wyke Generation One 1. Edward1 WYKE (Lieut. Gov. of Montserrat). Children of Edward1 Wyke (Lieut. Gov. of Montserrat) include: 2. i. Sarah2 WYKE IRISH-MARTIN was born in of Montserrat B.W.I. She and Col. Samuel Martin married. She and William Irish married. Generation Two 2. Sarah2 WYKE IRISH-MARTIN (Edward1) was of Montserrat B.W.I. She and Col. Samuel Martin married. She and William Irish married. She died in 1748. She was the daughter of Edward Wyke, Lieutenant Governor of Montserrat. Col. Samuel MARTIN was christened in 1694 in St. John's, Antigua B.W.I. He and Mrs. Martin Frances Yeamans married. He died in Nov 1776. He inherited Green Castle plantation, Antigua from his father. Children of Sarah2 Wyke IRISH-MARTIN and Col. Samuel Martin were: 3. i. Sir Henry3 MARTIN Bart. was born on 29 Aug 1733 in Shroton House, Dorset, England. He and Lady Martin Eliza Anne Parker married in Mar 1761. William IRISH was born in of Montserrat B.W.I. There were no children of Sarah2 Wyke IRISH-MARTIN and William Irish. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of David Daniell Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: MONTSERRAT families WYKE IRISH FRYE COOK HODGES ... I've cobbled up from published sources not totally reliable trees for the following families. If these trees are of interest to anyone else I can put them on a personal website. Then it would be great if people told me where I'm wrong and where bits might be added. I only go up to the end of the 18th century thereafter being plain sailing.Blake Byam Cruikshank Freeman Frye Gibbes Hutchinson Irish Martin Stapleton Warner Webb Wyke Cheers David No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1107 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 11:22 AM

Thank you Cecilia and Chris, Its 2:40 am here - back tomorrow! David On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:05 AM, cecilia wrote: > David Daniell wrote: >> " . . . Upon which I suspended the said Fry from setting any more in >> H.M. Council till His Royal pleasure was known thereon : This I did >> by >> vertue of the last clause of my 13th Instruction ; for these reasons >> which I cou'd not communicate to the Council, (vizt.) That a majority >> of them were his very near relations by blood or alliance, Mr. Wyke >> being Mr. Fry's own nephew, Mr. Irish married his neice, and is also >> his relation in blood, Mr. Cook and Mr. Hodges are his cozin >> Germans ; >> which if I shou'd have openly mention'd wou'd have been accusing them >> of partiallity; . . . " >> this is what I know including that imputed from the above passage: >> FRY(e) - William Frye a member of the Council (son of a sister of the >> next?) >> WYKE - apparently a brother of Edward Wyke 1682-? sometime >> lieutenant- >> governor of the Island >> IRISH - William Irish, abt 1690-1725 spouse of Sarah Wyke, abt >> 1708-1748 d/o Edward above. Widowed she married Col. Samuel Martin >> COOK and HODGES - first cousins to William Frye (= cousins german) >> and >> so the same to Wyke? >> How is Frye "a relation in blood" to Irish? > > FRY is uncle of WYKE, not nephew. > > COOK and HODGES would be related to WYKE, first cousins to his mother > so first cousin once removed to him. > > If Sarah Wyke is a child of Edward Wyke, it is possibly that WYKE is > also, or Sarah and WYKE may be first cousins with their mothers being > sisters, nee Fry, who married two (one each) men named Wyke that need > not have been brothers, but (given the size of the community) were > probably related. > > There is no indication above how FRY and IRISH are related. I think > it likely to be more distant than first cousin once removed, or it > would have been spelled out, unless the point was felt to have already > been adequately made. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Listers, Can anyone tell me with confidence the full names / identities of all these people mentioned in the following passage? "March 16. (1724) 91 . Governor Hart to the Council of Trade and Plantations. . . . . (concerning the disrespectful - to him- behaviour of William Fry a member of the Council of the Island) " . . . Upon which I suspended the said Fry from setting any more in H.M. Council till His Royal pleasure was known thereon : This I did by vertue of the last clause of my 13th Instruction ; for these reasons which I cou'd not communicate to the Council, (vizt.) That a majority of them were his very near relations by blood or alliance, Mr. Wyke being Mr. Fry's own nephew, Mr. Irish married his neice, and is also his relation in blood, Mr. Cook and Mr. Hodges are his cozin Germans ; which if I shou'd have openly mention'd wou'd have been accusing them of partiallity; . . . " this is what I know including that imputed from the above passage: FRY(e) - William Frye a member of the Council (son of a sister of the next?) WYKE - apparently a brother of Edward Wyke 1682-? sometime lieutenant- governor of the Island IRISH - William Irish, abt 1690-1725 spouse of Sarah Wyke, abt 1708-1748 d/o Edward above. Widowed she married Col. Samuel Martin COOK and HODGES - first cousins to William Frye (= cousins german) and so the same to Wyke? How is Frye "a relation in blood" to Irish? I'd be very glad to know anything more about these families even if it only confirms what I know. David Daniell Auckland New Zealand

David Daniell wrote: >" . . . Upon which I suspended the said Fry from setting any more in >H.M. Council till His Royal pleasure was known thereon : This I did by >vertue of the last clause of my 13th Instruction ; for these reasons >which I cou'd not communicate to the Council, (vizt.) That a majority >of them were his very near relations by blood or alliance, Mr. Wyke >being Mr. Fry's own nephew, Mr. Irish married his neice, and is also >his relation in blood, Mr. Cook and Mr. Hodges are his cozin Germans ; >which if I shou'd have openly mention'd wou'd have been accusing them >of partiallity; . . . " >this is what I know including that imputed from the above passage: >FRY(e) - William Frye a member of the Council (son of a sister of the >next?) >WYKE - apparently a brother of Edward Wyke 1682-? sometime lieutenant- >governor of the Island >IRISH - William Irish, abt 1690-1725 spouse of Sarah Wyke, abt >1708-1748 d/o Edward above. Widowed she married Col. Samuel Martin >COOK and HODGES - first cousins to William Frye (= cousins german) and >so the same to Wyke? >How is Frye "a relation in blood" to Irish? FRY is uncle of WYKE, not nephew. COOK and HODGES would be related to WYKE, first cousins to his mother so first cousin once removed to him. If Sarah Wyke is a child of Edward Wyke, it is possibly that WYKE is also, or Sarah and WYKE may be first cousins with their mothers being sisters, nee Fry, who married two (one each) men named Wyke that need not have been brothers, but (given the size of the community) were probably related. There is no indication above how FRY and IRISH are related. I think it likely to be more distant than first cousin once removed, or it would have been spelled out, unless the point was felt to have already been adequately made.

Hi David I have The History of Antigua laid out with morning coffee and I'm looking over the will of William Fry, president of the Council of Montserrat etc. Gov Hart and he had a disagreement and in typical fashion Hart had snit fit and suspended the proceedings. I think Oliver has most of the relations in here...will try and jot it all down. Have you seen this? ChrisCod -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 385 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Thank you Ann The spelling issue is a problem for all of us...In this case Coddingtion is a legitimate surname with members active from Mass and Rhode Island early on. They had mercantile interests as many in those states did and thus move in and out of the picture. On occasion one arrives Antigua then leaves. But ya neva know! Cod

List, I post this for the record in hopes it will be picked up by people researching in depth on this topic -----Original Message----- Greetings to the Antigua and Barbuda Museum and Historical Society; Just a note of appreciation for the wonderful work on the web-site. I hope it has generated interest and participation on all levels I wondered if you might know of anyone who has been working on the Cod Mss at the Archives or has occasion to study there on any kind of regular basis. I am currently summarizing my research on the Codringtons and without the resources to travel was hoping I might find someone who shares an interest in these things to compare notes and perhaps do some research. At this point some of the information is very basic such as what material survives from the period 1698-1750. I know it is sparse. Below is a list of points I am looking at and I include them on the off chance someone may have an insight or suggestion for further study or a contact who may be of help. 1. Are there surviving Chancery records from the period 1698-1750 which are not noted in “The History of Antigua”(Oliver) 2. Does information on the Codrington estate called “The Garden” exist, including any maps or sketches of its layout. 3. Are there surviving records of Deeds and Conveyances for the same period 4. What if any records of Release from Indenture or Bond exist for the period? 5. Are there any lists of servants and freeman on the Codrington Estates including Barbuda for the period especially prior to 1721? 6. What if any original sources led to the description of the death of Col John Codrington as before 1645 on Barbuda? (I found nothing in the Calendar of State Papers refering to the episode) I will not belabor this further these are obscure points of history but important to my narrative. Prior to setting out my story of the lesser Codrington branch which relocated to Jamaica circa 1741 I must lay as definitive a background as possible on the real movements and composition of the family as a whole. There is so much misinformation and confusion in prior literature that it seems needful to substantiate that history once and for all. No small thing by itself! If you would be so kind as to circulate this to people who might take interest I would be very appreciative and be etc and….. continue to encourage the contributions of others to it’s good work Kind Regards Chris Codrington Boynton Beach, Fl USA