Hi Cod, That is very interesting, I never heard my parents or Aunt or Uncle say anything about Christmas in Barbados now that you brought the subject up. We will have to see what everybody else has to say on this subject. Elaine **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Hi List; I was just watching a History Channel program on the history of Christmas and it occurred to me I have never run into much of how it may have been celebrated in the colonial islands..... Any input? Cod -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 48 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Dear Chris, I remember days of fragrances, as all the women were making Sweetbread, and Tarts, cocoanut, guava, guavaberry. There is pork or mutton roasting, Marbie bitters simmering on the stove and fermenting in bottles in any bit of sun. Dondosla(sp), a large twisted peppermint candy is made, potato stuffing, peas shucked for pigeon peas and rice, Saltfish is soaking, to make saltfish pick-up as an appetizer, or stewed with green banana. But it is the callaloo that is the star of the show, my mother and I would go into the 'bush' behind our house to look for Man better man, sassafras, or as it is known locally callaloo bush, to make a pot for the carolers. My dad would bring home the beer, rum and demijohns(sp) of Guavaberry wine, and a block of ice in a bathing pan. As soon as the sun goes down on Christmas eve, carolers would appear, some on foot and in cars and trucks, accompanied by violin, squeezbox, mandolin, harmonica, tambourine, scratchy, trumped or sax. The carolers would sing one song at each house that stopped to, since we lived at the top of Pollyberg hill, they had a captive audience, there were the Lewis', Mr. Clarence-the barber, my cousin the Benjamin's, Miss Emmy Williams, Miss Florie, J. A. Jarvis and Georges, so we got a full concert, between wetting their whistle, and bowls of callaloo w/fungi. The later it got into the evening the more rabid the songs became and the louder and more off key the singers were. We had a gentleman that lived across from us named Mr. Faulkner, he wore all white all the time, just like Hercules Perot, down to the hat and cane, and walked just like him. He would blast, yes I said blast,Handel's Messiah from his Victrola, trying to drown out the singers. The singers in turn, would drink more and sing louder, as they were joined by other carolers, and the children and the dogs of the neighborhood, a proper cacophony abound. But fun was had by all. The next morning was sunrise service, many of those same carolers had not been to bed, and the fumes in church, well, it was good smoking was not allowed in church. After church, presents were taken to elder relatives, then home to eat all those aromas that tormented us that whole week leading up to christmas. Merry Christmas from the VI! Ann"Sharing the information."Researching the USVI, St.Eustatius, St. Barths, Barbados

Confusing website but worth a look for Christmas in Jamaica. http://joyousjamtoo.moonfruit.com/ Celia ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.M. Codrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Christmas in Jamaica, Antigua, Barbados etc circa 1840-1870????? > > Hi List; > > I was just watching a History Channel program on the history of Christmas > and it occurred to me I have never run into much of how it may have been > celebrated in the colonial islands..... > > Any input? > > Cod > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 48 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In searching the London Gazette for Molls, I stumbled on notices regarding the registration of land titles by the Acting Keeper of the Public Records of British Honduras, on pp 24-27 of Issue 22512, 21May 1861, List of Applicants and lands include:. John Hodge and James Bartlett Hyde: Dr. Francis Young's Mahogany Works; John Young's Mahogany Work, Joshua Gabourel's Work; Stain's Mahogany Works, Ann Gabourel's Work, Richmond Hill Works; Broad Reach Works; Keefe's Work, Maskall's Mahogany Works; August's Work, Mary Hickey's Work, Edward Bennett's Mahogany Work, Burnbam Hill Works, Moll Punch Shoal Mahogany Works; Guinea Grass Mahogany Works, Hobson's Choice Mahogany Work, John Carmichael of Corosal: Pembroke, and other lands bounded on one side by Mahogany Works What other treasures lie hidden there? Peter Moll East End Tortola BVI Howard Mais wrote 21/11/2007 : > Hi Listers > > I have been researching my Mais ancestors in the London Gazette and found a series of Jamaican Government Notices relating to Henry Mais (1805 to c1888) stating that money deposited in the Treasury on account of his insolvent estate was to be claimed by the Government. I wondered if anyone could please advise me where any records declaring his estate to be insolvent would be archived. > > The Notices appeared in 1894/5 and contained the names of several other Jamaicans whose estates were insolvent and who other listers may be interested in. > > Jamaican researchers of landholders might also be interested to know that there were a number of Government Notices during the 1870/1880s listing many plantations, estates, etc, for which land taxes were in arrears. The website is at:- www.gazettes-online.co.uk > > Cheers > > Howard Mais > England > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Kerry Thanks for getting in touch. I am glad you made a productive trip to Tortola I will send you the names and addresses of the three Scatliffes living in Kingstown in 1831 as soon as I have found them again, but they probably derived the name from the master(s) (in Mrs Scatliffe's family?) to.whom they had been apprenticed (see below). There may have been other, unrelated, Scatliffes who had been slaves on Tortola before the "Liberated Africans" arrived. "Liberated Africans Although the slave trade was abolished on 1 May 1807 by virtue of the Slave Trade Act 1807, vessels which sailed before that date could under certain circumstances trade until 1 March 1808. Any vessels seized under the 1807 and subsequent acts for illegally carrying slaves were taken as prizes, the master was fined and the slaves became forfeited to the crown. Slaves became government property and many were enlisted into the Royal Navy or the army, especially the West India Regiments and the Royal African Corps. The trials of illegal slavers were held at Vice-Admiralty courts in Africa, Havana, Rio de Janeiro and the West Indies including Tortola. .. (That) court heard so many cases and so many Africans were released from illegal slavers that the island could not cope with the numbers freed. To remedy this situation the Colonial Office transferred the Vice-Admiralty court to Antigua, which could cope with the extra population, and considered transporting the liberated Africans to Trinidad; it is unknown if any did go." (The Newsletter of the Archives and Records Management Unit, June 2007) "The liberated Africans were offered the opportunity to serve in the military on larger islands; an opportunity that many accepted. However, a number stayed and settled in the Territory. They were made to serve an "apprenticeship" of 14 years, after which they were absolutely free. In 1828 they were given certificates of freedom, so as not to be confused with enslaved Africans. However, the problem of relocating the new arrivals arose and a decision had to be made as to where to settle them. In 1831 the area now known as Kingstown, on Tortola, which was then uninhabited, was put aside and subdivided, and each newly freed African was allocated a plot of land where they could build a house and grow provision crops". <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Phillip%27s_Church%2C_Tortola> The BVI Archives Unit is gradually acquiring from The UK National Archives microfilms of the plans of the Settlement, lists of settlers, deeds, leases and related correspondence. Best wishes Peter (Moll) East End Tortola BVI kerry coppin wrote 20/12/2007: > Peter, [snip} > > I am writing on this occasion as I have had opportunity to read your > correspondence identifying ³three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the > African Location in Kingstown in 1831 . . .² Is there any information on > those Scatliffe¹s that I would be able to gain access to? How would they > come by that name? Were they in anyway associated with "Mrs. Scatliffe's" > plantation? > > When I visited Tortolla in summer 2006 I met with Dr. Vincent Scatliffe of > Peebles Hospital. He was quite helpful, but had no knowledge of Simon > Scatliffe or how my branch of the family interfaced his ­ except to say that > ALL Scatliffes were related .[snip} It makes sense that there are so many Hodges when you see the 17 or 18 Hodge estates listed on the 1798 Plantation Map of Tortola. But Mrs. Scatliffes plantation is one of the smallest on the map. ­ I could not account for the number of Scatliffe¹s who are still presently living in Tortola. Is it possible that there were a significant Scatliffe population outside of Huntums Ghut? > > Well any insight that you have will be very welcome . . . > > Sincerely,

On Dec 18, 1:27 pm, Cindy Loadman <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know how I can find out more about this? My grandfather's > family came to Tobago from India in the early 1900s. I would like to > see if it is possible to trace his family back to India. Can anyone > help me? > > Thanks, > > Cindy It is unlikely that they went to Tobago. Tobago was a separate colony until 1898? and never imported Indian indentures. The group of choice is of course http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bhatchaman/ which you should join and where you can post your query. Someone may recognize your family. They will certainly tell you to go The National Archives in Trinidad and check for yourself. It is all well and good to recommend Shamshu Deen, but if you save his fees you can fly around the world twice, stop off in Trinidad, get the information, and on your second trip stop off in India. BTW the term of choice is coolie. We were not known by any other name in the 1800s, so use the term when doing searches. I don't think the East India Company had anything to do with it. Look on the British Library/Museum site for Charter Party documents. The Moving Here page http://www.movinghere.org.uk/default.htm has a lot of this type of information. Lots of surprises. The first coolie ship to Trinidad, the Fath Al Razack was owned by a ... coolie. We have put up a lot of information on the internet. Our main site is here http://www.indocaribbeanheritage.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/ The St Vincent site is here http://svgindianheritage.com/ If you do a search in this group for coolie you will get some interesting results... about 140 pages in fact. But I have already done that and the information is here http://www.esnips.com/web/lharradansWebResearch Lots of stuff there, go to the main page http://www.esnips.com/HomeAction.ns;jsessionid=EA0856BF7979ACE75B5D01AC9A68A375 With respect to the following My ggm was indentured in the Virgin Islands, which was administered by A Dutch company for the Danish Govn't. I am assuming that the VOC brought in the indentured to the islands they were associatedd with. Unfortunately, she died before my mother was born, so we just have the oral history of ggm's children and contempories. Some time ago I posted a list of coolies from St Croix. I have not found the ship's list of immigrants, but most went back to India, and some of those who remained are on my list. The document is on the e- snips page. I had also an article on the first migrants to St Croix, written by a Mrs Hayes, some time around 1870. That is somewhere in our newspaper, Indo-Caribbean Times. But this is of interest to us, because we have never been able to trace any of their descendants. Could you tell us your story sometime? I am not a member of this group and my posts tend to disappear. Can someone tag it with, say, "Eh Heh" or "Yeah Mon" so listers can get a chance to read it? Thank you. H

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Sources of BVI Family Records (continued) Inland Revenue Office records ownership of houses, land and other property. Tax lists containing pertinent information are published annually Land Registry holds property identifiers: indexes and maps from 1972 Public Library: Newspapers from 1959 and various name indexes; BVI history books Survey Department: Ordinance [Survey] 1953 Maps; Boundary Maps from 1975 The Archives Unit Deputy Governor's office Burhym Building 49 De Castro Street Road Town Tortola VG1110 British Virgin Islands Tel: (284) 468 2365 Fax: (284) 468 2582 Email: [email protected]** Deputy Governor's Office <http://www.dgo.gov.vg> (Newsletter available) Archives and Records: <http://www.dgo.gov.vg/index.php?mpageid=106&mmenuidf=6&mmenuids=34&mmenuidt=49> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: BVI Family records Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:59:08 -0400 From: Spring <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected], Dante <[email protected]> CC: Peter Moll <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Good morning, Dante This is the list compiled by the Archives Unit in the DGO - I was going to post a summary of it during the holidays, anyway:: "Sources of BVI Family Records The following Offices hold BVI records relevant to family research. Although they do not all have adequate space and staff to accommodate public searches, if you make an appointment, the appropriate officer would make a way to assist you..... The General Civil Registry Office is responsible for Civil Registration. It holds records of births, marriages, deaths and wills from 1859 to present. The Anglican and Methodist Churches hold records of baptisms, marriages and deaths.... Anglican Church: Baptisms, 1825-1861; Marriages, 1833-1946; Burials, 1819-1867 Methodist Church: Baptisms, 1815-1895; 1889 (?); Marriages, 1877-1934; Burials, 1845-1896 (to be continued after work :-)) Peter Moll BVI Dante wrote 21/12/07: > Peter, > > If the list of "Sources of BVI Family Records" is not too long, it may > be nice to post it to the list directly.

Good morning, Dante This is the list compiled by the Archives Unit in the DGO - I was going to post a summary of it during the holidays, anyway:: "Sources of BVI Family Records The following Offices hold BVI records relevant to family research. Although they do not all have adequate space and staff to accommodate public searches, if you make an appointment, the appropriate officer would make a way to assist you..... The General Civil Registry Office is responsible for Civil Registration. It holds records of births, marriages, deaths and wills from 1859 to present. The Anglican and Methodist Churches hold records of baptisms, marriages and deaths.... Anglican Church: Baptisms, 1825-1861; Marriages, 1833-1946; Burials, 1819-1867 Methodist Church: Baptisms, 1815-1895; 1889 (?); Marriages, 1877-1934; Burials, 1845-1896 (to be continued after work :-)) Peter Moll BVI Dante wrote 21/12/07: > Peter, > > If the list of "Sources of BVI Family Records" is not too long, it may > be nice to post it to the list directly. If it is a bit long and if > not too much trouble, I'd like to have you email me this info- I > could use all the help I can get with my Tortola people. Thanks. > > Dante > > On Dec 20, 2007, at 2:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> quick response, before going to bed! [snip} BVI records are scattered around various offices. The General Civil >> Registry holds records from 1859 onwards. I shall e-mail you a list of "Sources >> of BVI Family Records" compiled by The Archives Unit in the Deputy >> Governor's Office..... >> >> Peter Moll >> East End >> Tortola >> BVI

Peter, If the list of "Sources of BVI Family Records" is not too long, it may be nice to post it to the list directly. If it is a bit long and if not too much trouble, I'd like to have you email me this info- I could use all the help I can get with my Tortola people. Thanks. Dante On Dec 20, 2007, at 2:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > A quick response, before going to bed! > As you probably know, both Scatliffe and Todman are long-established, > common names in the BVI. > The 1798 Tortola Plantation Map shows three estates owned by Thomas > Todman and a Mrs Scatliffe growing sugar on another one, while there > were three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the African Location in > Kingstown in 1831. The current BVI white pages lists 47 Scatliffe > and 40 > Todman subscribers. > You really need to do some research in Tortola if you can, as BVI > records are scattered around various offices. The General Civil > Registry > holds records from 1859 onwards. I shall e-mail you a list of "Sources > of BVI Family Records" compiled by The Archives Unit in the Deputy > Governor's Office. The Public Library may hold a booklet produced for > the funeral of Theodocia Valeria Todman if she was buried here. They > are > often excellent sources of family history. > Good luck! > > Peter Moll > East End > Tortola > BVI

Dear Nevilla La Touche is one of the names that I am slowly researching as my grandmother was a Pilgrim/La Touche from Grenada. Might I be able to help/what do you already have? Best Jenni > Message Received: Dec 20 2007, 03:06 PM > From: "Nevilla E Ottley" > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Subject: RE: Grenada Researcher > > Thanks, Yvonne, I will follow through. > > Happy Holidays, > > Nevilla > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Emanuel, Yvonne E CIV USA AMC > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Grenada Researcher > > Nevilla, > > Correction Google Grenada handbook and you can flip through the 1897 > and the 1902 books. > > > Don't forget the church records. > Yvonne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emanuel, Yvonne E > CIV USA AMC > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Grenada Researcher > > > Nevilla, > > I don't recall seeing your surnames in my searches. Have you ordered > the micro films from the Latterday Saints or checked the Grenada > Record.. GOogle it andyou can review the 1897 and the 1920 books. There > is alot of information in those books. > > What path have you taken thusfar? > > Yvonne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nevilla E Ottley > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Grenada Researcher > > Hello, Yvonne, > > Could you please do some research on the names Ottley, Warner, and > Blaize in Grenada, please. I am trying to find if our my > great-grandfather, Thomas Ottley, born between 1815-1855 was born in > Grenada (or Saint Vincent) and migrated to Tobago. I am also looking > for his wife, and ancestors. My grandfather, Joseph Ethelbert Ottley was > born. There are so many Thomas Ottley's that could be my > great-grandfather, but I have not pinpointed the exact one. > > The names Warner, LaTouche and Blaize are also in the family mix. > > Thank you. > > Nevilla E. Ottley > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Grenada Researcher > > On Nov 5, 7:05 am, "Emanuel, Yvonne E CIV USA AMC" > wrote: > > Cathy, > > I belong to the > > roost web group. We (Grenada/St Vincent/Trinidad/Panama etc.etc. > > Researchers) > > may be able to shed some light on your inquery. What surmanes are you > > > researching. > > > > Yvonne aka Cuzin' Choli > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:03 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Grenada Researcher > > > > Hello All, > > > > Does anyone out there know a researcher in Grenada who might be > > interested in searching for some Catholic birth, marriage, death > > information for me? > > > > Failing that, does anyone know a priest who for a donation to the > > church would be willing to look up a few things in the records? > > > > This is not information that is available on the LDS microfilms. > > > > Any suggestions or ideas would be much appreciated. Travelling to do > > it myself is not feasible at the moment. > > > > Cathy > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Hi Yvonne, > > Thanks for your reply. I'm researching the name "Aquart" and I have some > specific information that I'm looking for from the Catholic Records. I'm > using the LDS microfilms for what I can get from those. > If you can help out that would be great. Please feel free to contact me > privately. > > Cathy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Peter, Hi, how you? We corresponded briefly, a little over a year ago, concerning my search for information about the Scatliffe's in Tortola. You were indeed very helpful in pointing me in the direction of the 1798 plantation map of Tortola. I was able to locate a copy of the map, and identify on Google Earth, the site of "Mrs. Scatliffe's" plantation . . . The difficulty is that the site is only listed as "Mrs. Scatliffe's", causing difficulty in making further identification . . . I was however able to identify Simon Scatliffe, who "bought the [Mount Healthy Windmill] mill from Augustus McClevity . . ." in 1872. This is the same Simon Scatliffe who is my Great, Great Grandfather. I was able to determine this from the 1899 marriage record of his son (my great, grandfather) John Joseph Scatliffe (referred to as captain John) in the Methodist church, in Road Town. I am writing on this occasion as I have had opportunity to read your correspondence identifying ³three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the African Location in Kingstown in 1831 . . .² Is there any information on those Scatliffe¹s that I would be able to gain access to? How would they come by that name? Were they in anyway associated with "Mrs. Scatliffe's" plantation? When I visited Tortolla in summer 2006 I met with Dr. Vincent Scatliffe of Peebles Hospital. He was quite helpful, but had no knowledge of Simon Scatliffe or how my branch of the family interfaced his ­ except to say that ALL Scatliffes were related. I am curious because I can identify a link with my grandmother Othelia Scatliffe and Antonio Scatliffe. An old, old bible, belonging to my grandmother, Othelia Scatliffe, was inscribed from her ³dear cousin . . . Antonio Scatliffe . . .² This told me that Antonio¹s father should be the, or one of the, brothers of Captain John Joseph Scatliffe. And, I was able to find the grave of Antonio Scatliffe in the Methodist Church cemetery (but not the grave of Amanda ­ Captain John¹s wife). In any event, I found your citation of ³three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the African Location in Kingstown in 1831 . . .² very provocative. One thing I cannot figure out is how did Simon Scatliffe come to have the funds to make purchase of the Mount Healthy Windmill? And, also, how did his son John Joseph come to be a sea captain. This is particularly perplexing as I have come to think that they were in some way associated with "Mrs. Scatliffe's" plantation (which is located very near to the windmill). Is it possible that Simon Scatliffe is descendent from one of the three Scatliffes living in the African Location in Kingstown in 1831? How would those persons come to have the Scatliffe name? I think I mentioned in previous correspondence that my great, grandmother, Amanda, was a Hodge. It makes sense that there are so many Hodges when you see the 17 or 18 Hodge estates listed on the 1798 Plantation Map of Tortola. But Mrs. Scatliffes plantation is one of the smallest on the map ­ I could not account for the number of Scatliffe¹s who are still presently living in Tortola. Is it possible that there were a significant Scatliffe population outside of Huntums Ghut? Well any insight that you have will be very welcome . . . Sincerely, Kerry Stuart Coppin Associate Professor of Visual Art Associate Professor of Africana Studies Brown University Department of Visual Art Box 1861 Providence, Rhode Island 02912 List Art Center 64 College Street Providence, Rhode Island 02912 Phone: 401. 863. 1076 Fax: 401. 863. 1680 E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.kerrycoppin.com On 12/20/07 2:20 AM, "Spring" <[email protected]> wrote: > A quick response, before going to bed! > As you probably know, both Scatliffe and Todman are long-established, > common names in the BVI. > The 1798 Tortola Plantation Map shows three estates owned by Thomas > Todman and a Mrs Scatliffe growing sugar on another one, while there > were three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the African Location in > Kingstown in 1831. The current BVI white pages lists 47 Scatliffe and 40 > Todman subscribers. > You really need to do some research in Tortola if you can, as BVI > records are scattered around various offices. The General Civil Registry > holds records from 1859 onwards. I shall e-mail you a list of "Sources > of BVI Family Records" compiled by The Archives Unit in the Deputy > Governor's Office. The Public Library may hold a booklet produced for > the funeral of Theodocia Valeria Todman if she was buried here. They are > often excellent sources of family history. > Good luck! > > Peter Moll > East End > Tortola > BVI > > > SLG wrote 20/12/07: >> I'm looking for members of the Scatliffe family of the British Virgin >> Islands. My great great grandmother's maiden name was Laura Agnes >> Scatliffe, unfortunately I don't have her DOB. She married John >> Charles Todman, their daughter was Theodocia Valeria Todman >> 1894-1980. Who were Laura's her parents? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, Hi, how you? We corresponded briefly, a little over a year ago, concerning my search for information about the Scatliffe's in Tortola. You were indeed very helpful in pointing me in the direction of the 1798 plantation map of Tortola. I was able to locate, and identify on Google Earth, the site of "Mrs. Scatliffe's" plantation . . . The difficulty is that the site is only listed as "Mrs. Scatliffe's", causing difficulty in making further identification . . . I was however able to identify Simon Scatliffe, who "bought the [Mount Healthy Windmill] mill from Augustus McClevity . . ." in 1872. This is the same Simon Scatliffe who is my Great, Great Grandfather. I was able to determine this from the 1899 marriage record of his son (my great, grandfather) John Joseph Scatliffe (referred to as captain John) in the Methodist church, in Road Town. I am writing on this occasion as I have had opportunity to read your correspondence identifying ³three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the African Location in Kingstown in 1831 . . .² Is there any information on those Scatliffe¹s that I would be able to gain access to? How would they come by that name? Were they in anyway associated with "Mrs. Scatliffe's" plantation? When I visited Tortolla in summer 2006 I met with Dr. Vincent Scatliffe of Peebles Hospital. He was quite helpful, but had no knowledge of Simon Scatliffe or how my branch of the family interfaced his ­ except to say that ALL Scatliffes were related. I am curious because I can identify a link with my grandmother Othelia Scatliffe and Antonio Scatliffe. An old, old bible, belonging to my grandmother, Othelia Scatliffe, was inscribed from her ³dear cousin . . . Antonio Scatliffe . . .² This told me that Antonio¹s father should be the, or one of the, brothers of Captain John Joseph Scatliffe. And, I was able to find the grave of Antonio Scatliffe in the Methodist Church cemetery (but not the grave of Amanda ­ Captain John¹s wife). In any event, I found your citation of ³three Scatliffes and a Todman living in the African Location in Kingstown in 1831 . . .² very provocative. One thing I cannot figure out is how did Simon Scatliffe come to have the funds to make purchase of the Mount Healthy Windmill? And, also, how did his son John Joseph come to be a sea captain. This is particularly perplexing as I have come to think that they were in some way associated with "Mrs. Scatliffe's" plantation (which is located very near to the windmill). Is it possible that Simon Scatliffe is descendent from one of the three Scatliffes living in the African Location in Kingstown in 1831? How would those persons come to have the Scatliffe name? I think I mentioned in previous correspondence that my great, grandmother, Amanda, was a Hodge. It makes sense that there are so many Hodges when you see the 17 or 18 Hodge estates listed on the 1798 Plantation Map of Tortola. But Mrs. Scatliffes plantation is one of the smallest on the map ­ I could not account for the number of Scatliffe¹s who are still presently living in Tortola. Is it possible that there were a significant Scatliffe population outside of Huntums Ghut? Well any insight that you have will be very welcome . . . Sincerely, On 12/20/07 2:13 AM, "Spring" <[email protected]> wrote: Kingstown > Kingstown

Here is some information that was shared with me about a Scatliffe the other day. I wish I had more to share with you. Did you get my email? Re: Scatliffe Family angeliaweekes_usvi (View posts) Posted: 16 Dec 2007 4:58PM GMT Classification: Query Surnames: SCATLIFFE, NIBBS, CALLWOOD Sarah, Anna Scatliffe was my husband's g-grandmother. See below: Anna Scatliffe b.1892 Tortola, BVI d.1994 St.Thomas, USVI Parent: Frances Callwood Siblings: Unknown Spouse: James Archibald Nibbs Children: Diana, Constancia, Henrietta, Etalia, Ina, Camelita,Lillian,James,Cardinal,Delbert, Maxwell, Obel, and Raymouth Nibbs Good luck on your search:-)

hi, by any chance do you of any CHRISTIAN in the British V.I.? My ggfather was Richard Christian, my father used to tell me he was born in England, but I have my doubts. I guess that Richard was born around the early 1800s. He married my ggmother around 1830s more or less in Puerto Rico. thank you for any info. Macky Lebron Montalban Orange, CA **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

THIS IS EXCITING... I am so happy for you guys... I see a brealthrough coming.. your ancestors are at work... Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kerry coppin Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Scatliffe family of the British Virgin Islands I too am looking for information regarding the Scatliffe family . . . My grandmother was born Othelia Scatliffe . . . I am attaching a copy of the Hodge family Reunion, July 31 - August 16, 1988 (documentation was too large to attach to this correspondence - this is the 2nd time I am sending). It shows documentation of Amanda Elnora Hodge, married to Joseph Scatliffe (in 1899). However the name you are looking for is not shown on this family tree, and I am NOT sure that I have come across it in my searches. I was in Tortolla during the summer of 2006, and did some searching through the national arhives. I plan another trip, as I am now better prepared and have some leads of what I should be looking for. It is surprising, because the 1798 plantation map of Tortolla shows one very small sugar plantation being owned by a Mrs. Scatliife, that there are so many scatliffe's still residing in Tortolla. But a Luther Scatllife is known for having 23 children with his wife and mistresses . . . - I can't identify him along my famly tree, although I am told that ALL Scatliife's are related, and that there ARE three ain branches of the Scatliffe family. I actually met with Dr. Vincent Scatliffe, one of Luther's sons during my trip to Tortola . . . In any event, I would love to talk to you, if you should find it desirable, to share my information and to learn what you have dicovered . . . Sincerely, Kerry Stuart Coppin Associate Professor of Visual Art Associate Professor of Africana Studies Brown University Department of Visual Art Box 1861 Providence, Rhode Island 02912 List Art Center 64 College Street Providence, Rhode Island 02912 Phone: 401. 863. 1076 Fax: 401. 863. 1680 E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.kerrycoppin.com On 12/20/07 12:35 AM, "SLG" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm looking for members of the Scatliffe family of the British Virgin > Islands. My great great grandmother's maiden name was Laura Agnes > Scatliffe, unfortunately I don't have her DOB. She married John > Charles Todman, their daughter was Theodocia Valeria Todman > 1894-1980. Who were Laura's her parents? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I too am looking for information regarding the Scatliffe family . . . My grandmother was born Othelia Scatliffe . . . I am attaching a copy of the Hodge family Reunion, July 31 - August 16, 1988 (documentation was too large to attach to this correspondence - this is the 2nd time I am sending). It shows documentation of Amanda Elnora Hodge, married to Joseph Scatliffe (in 1899). However the name you are looking for is not shown on this family tree, and I am NOT sure that I have come across it in my searches. I was in Tortolla during the summer of 2006, and did some searching through the national arhives. I plan another trip, as I am now better prepared and have some leads of what I should be looking for. It is surprising, because the 1798 plantation map of Tortolla shows one very small sugar plantation being owned by a Mrs. Scatliife, that there are so many scatliffe's still residing in Tortolla. But a Luther Scatllife is known for having 23 children with his wife and mistresses . . . - I can't identify him along my famly tree, although I am told that ALL Scatliife's are related, and that there ARE three ain branches of the Scatliffe family. I actually met with Dr. Vincent Scatliffe, one of Luther's sons during my trip to Tortola . . . In any event, I would love to talk to you, if you should find it desirable, to share my information and to learn what you have dicovered . . . Sincerely, Kerry Stuart Coppin Associate Professor of Visual Art Associate Professor of Africana Studies Brown University Department of Visual Art Box 1861 Providence, Rhode Island 02912 List Art Center 64 College Street Providence, Rhode Island 02912 Phone: 401. 863. 1076 Fax: 401. 863. 1680 E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.kerrycoppin.com On 12/20/07 12:35 AM, "SLG" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm looking for members of the Scatliffe family of the British Virgin > Islands. My great great grandmother's maiden name was Laura Agnes > Scatliffe, unfortunately I don't have her DOB. She married John > Charles Todman, their daughter was Theodocia Valeria Todman > 1894-1980. Who were Laura's her parents? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

A little more info? grand mother's name, any dob's. There are many Christians in the US VI, and the families are related. Richard is such a common first name more details will help. Ann"Sharing the information."Researching the USVI, St.Eustatius, St. Barths, Barbados> From: [email protected]> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:24:35 -0500> Subject: Re: British Virgin Islands> To: [email protected]> > hi, by any chance do you of any CHRISTIAN in the British V.I.? My ggfather > was Richard Christian, my father used to tell me he was born in England, but > I have my doubts. I guess that Richard was born around the early 1800s. He > married my ggmother around 1830s more or less in Puerto Rico. > > thank you for any info.> > Macky Lebron Montalban> Orange, CA > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Yvonne, I am researching family in Grenada also. My great-grandmother, Gwendolyn Cobham, was born in 1897, and her brother, Marcus Cobham, born in 1893. Both Marcus and Gwendolyn went to NY. Marcus stayed there, and Gwendolyn moved to Barbados. Their father's name was William, and records place him on Lucas Street in St George's around 1923, but that is as far as I can get. I do not know their mother's name, and there are so many William Cobhams. My grandfather, Gwendolyn's son, didn't even know his grandfather's name. He knows that somewhere along the line, we came from the UK, but he doens't know when, so it may be that William was born in the UK. I have written to the registrar in Grenada for some help with this matter, but I don't expect an answer anytime soon. If any of you can help me with any of these four people (Gwendolyn, Marcus, William, or his wife), that would be fantastic! Thanks so much! Cindy