Also, if you read his e-mail address, it consistently changes, makes difficult to screen. I bounce all this mail, hopefully, it will fill his inboxes. Best regards, Denis Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard Shaw On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:16 AM, C.M. Codrington wrote: > Hi List > > The Mi5 guy is dispersing his paranoid drivel across hundreds of > lists....I > just checked abit to see if we were the only victims and no...he is > everywhere. > > Anyway just delete the stuff or set up your filters to pull his > messages > until RootsWeb figures how to filter most of it... it must put a > huge strain > on their servers when this happens..... > > Cod > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:caribbean- > [email protected]] > On Behalf Of Joan Seymour > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:29 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: M I-5,Perse cution the ir m ethods an d tactics > > Please,I do beg you, webmaster try to get this writer off the site, > thanks Joan > > Joan T.Seymour, > Consultant > > > > [email protected] wrote: >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> -= MI5:. methods and tactics -= >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> They deliberately set out to harass. in a way that would resemble the >> symptoms of schizophrenia, so that any. report of the harassment >> would be >> taken as indicating mental illness. and "treated" accordingly. >> They never >> show their own faces; they. only work through proxies, in the >> media, among >> the public, and by manipulating people. in the workplace. Since >> they do > not >> declare their identity. there is no evidence to initiate legal action >> against the security services or anyone. else. The only people you >> can >> prosecute are the proxies and. they will deny knowledge of any >> conspiracy. >> >> By repeatedly humiliating and abusing the victim, they. induced >> mental >> illness. This is the worst. form of human rights violation: making >> any >> statement of the harassment appear to be. symptomatic of the >> illness which >> they cause through the harassment. That this. can happen, and people > collude >> by silence,. is absolutely horrifying. >> >>> From the. beginning in June 1990 they set a pattern of harassment >>> which > they >> have followed without change for the last six years. They. paint >> me as a >> "threat" to which people must "react" (shades of Nazi. persecution > methods), >> while simultaneously portraying their. hate campaign on which they >> have >> spent over a. million pounds of taxpayers' money as a "joke". >> >> The MI5 that breaks the law. with the silent complicity of the >> police is > the >> same agency that is now seeking a role in the fight against crime.. > Perhaps >> the real joke is the proposed involvement in. the implementation of > justice >> of an organisation which commits criminal acts with secrecy. and > disinterest >> for the legal. process. >> >> 838 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: > 12/30/2007 11:27 AM >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 106 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List The Mi5 guy is dispersing his paranoid drivel across hundreds of lists....I just checked abit to see if we were the only victims and no...he is everywhere. Anyway just delete the stuff or set up your filters to pull his messages until RootsWeb figures how to filter most of it... it must put a huge strain on their servers when this happens..... Cod -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Seymour Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M I-5,Perse cution the ir m ethods an d tactics Please,I do beg you, webmaster try to get this writer off the site, thanks Joan Joan T.Seymour, Consultant [email protected] wrote: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -= MI5:. methods and tactics -= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > They deliberately set out to harass. in a way that would resemble the > symptoms of schizophrenia, so that any. report of the harassment would be > taken as indicating mental illness. and "treated" accordingly. They never > show their own faces; they. only work through proxies, in the media, among > the public, and by manipulating people. in the workplace. Since they do not > declare their identity. there is no evidence to initiate legal action > against the security services or anyone. else. The only people you can > prosecute are the proxies and. they will deny knowledge of any conspiracy. > > By repeatedly humiliating and abusing the victim, they. induced mental > illness. This is the worst. form of human rights violation: making any > statement of the harassment appear to be. symptomatic of the illness which > they cause through the harassment. That this. can happen, and people collude > by silence,. is absolutely horrifying. > > >From the. beginning in June 1990 they set a pattern of harassment which they > have followed without change for the last six years. They. paint me as a > "threat" to which people must "react" (shades of Nazi. persecution methods), > while simultaneously portraying their. hate campaign on which they have > spent over a. million pounds of taxpayers' money as a "joke". > > The MI5 that breaks the law. with the silent complicity of the police is the > same agency that is now seeking a role in the fight against crime.. Perhaps > the real joke is the proposed involvement in. the implementation of justice > of an organisation which commits criminal acts with secrecy. and disinterest > for the legal. process. > > 838 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 106 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -= MI5:. methods and tactics -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= They deliberately set out to harass. in a way that would resemble the symptoms of schizophrenia, so that any. report of the harassment would be taken as indicating mental illness. and "treated" accordingly. They never show their own faces; they. only work through proxies, in the media, among the public, and by manipulating people. in the workplace. Since they do not declare their identity. there is no evidence to initiate legal action against the security services or anyone. else. The only people you can prosecute are the proxies and. they will deny knowledge of any conspiracy. By repeatedly humiliating and abusing the victim, they. induced mental illness. This is the worst. form of human rights violation: making any statement of the harassment appear to be. symptomatic of the illness which they cause through the harassment. That this. can happen, and people collude by silence,. is absolutely horrifying. >From the. beginning in June 1990 they set a pattern of harassment which they have followed without change for the last six years. They. paint me as a "threat" to which people must "react" (shades of Nazi. persecution methods), while simultaneously portraying their. hate campaign on which they have spent over a. million pounds of taxpayers’ money as a "joke". The MI5 that breaks the law. with the silent complicity of the police is the same agency that is now seeking a role in the fight against crime.. Perhaps the real joke is the proposed involvement in. the implementation of justice of an organisation which commits criminal acts with secrecy. and disinterest for the legal. process. 838

Please,I do beg you, webmaster try to get this writer off the site, thanks Joan Joan T.Seymour, Consultant [email protected] wrote: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -= MI5:. methods and tactics -= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > They deliberately set out to harass. in a way that would resemble the > symptoms of schizophrenia, so that any. report of the harassment would be > taken as indicating mental illness. and "treated" accordingly. They never > show their own faces; they. only work through proxies, in the media, among > the public, and by manipulating people. in the workplace. Since they do not > declare their identity. there is no evidence to initiate legal action > against the security services or anyone. else. The only people you can > prosecute are the proxies and. they will deny knowledge of any conspiracy. > > By repeatedly humiliating and abusing the victim, they. induced mental > illness. This is the worst. form of human rights violation: making any > statement of the harassment appear to be. symptomatic of the illness which > they cause through the harassment. That this. can happen, and people collude > by silence,. is absolutely horrifying. > > >From the. beginning in June 1990 they set a pattern of harassment which they > have followed without change for the last six years. They. paint me as a > "threat" to which people must "react" (shades of Nazi. persecution methods), > while simultaneously portraying their. hate campaign on which they have > spent over a. million pounds of taxpayers’ money as a "joke". > > The MI5 that breaks the law. with the silent complicity of the police is the > same agency that is now seeking a role in the fight against crime.. Perhaps > the real joke is the proposed involvement in. the implementation of justice > of an organisation which commits criminal acts with secrecy. and disinterest > for the legal. process. > > 838 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM >

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= my response to the harassment. -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My first reaction in 1990/91 was to assume that if I broke contact. then they would not be able to follow and would lose interest. So I did. the things that have been suggested by other people;. I sold my television, stopped listening to the radio and. tried to withdraw away from the sources of abuse as much as possible. I reasoned that they must. have more important things. to deal with and that normal people would simply leave me alone if it were made difficult for. them to continue their harassment. I reckoned without the sheer vindictiveness of the abusers.. They did not let up but instead "got to" people around me, mainly people at work,. to do their dirty work for them. I went to see my GP, who refused to believe. what he. was being told, and refused to direct me on to anyone who could be of practical assistance. It was not until. three years had passed that the GP admitted the matter was outside his competence and suggested going. to the police. In the summer of 1994 we called in. counter-surveillance experts from a private detective agency to sweep our house. and telephone for bugging devices. They conducted. a thorough search and found nothing; but as noted above, since the existence of surveillance was. being forced in my face by the harassers, you would. expect them to have taken the possibility of a counter-surveillance. sweep into account when planning the type of devices to be. employed. In Easter 1995 I made a complaint. to my local Police station in London, but the police have not expressed any intention to do anything about. the continuing harassment ("we're not saying it's happening and we're. not saying it isn't happening" were the words used). I think. the officer I spoke to at Easter wasn't aware of. it happening, although other members of the police force. obviously do know. >From April 1995 until the present. time the matter has been discussed in a lot of detail on the Usenet. (Internet) "uk.misc" newsgroup. That discussion has. given birth to the article which you are now reading. My hopes in posting to Usenet were that wider. publicizing would discourage the security services from. continuing their harassment, and "draw people out" into concurring with the truth of what was being said. Neither. of those have followed, but the. discussion has served a purpose in allowing this structured report to be. created. 8129

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -= purpose in publicizing it; censorship in uk.* newsgroups. -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The postings to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very defensive. reaction from Usenet readers in the UK. So much so,. that they tried strenuously to suppress. what was being said, both by breaking the rules of netiquette in their responses. on the forum, and directly by action to revoke the account from which. the postings were issued. Yet the postings were within the normal boundaries of behaviour. for uk.misc, and other less partisan spectators did not see justice in. the censorship which was effected, as the. following excerpt shows; :Karen Lofstrom. ([email protected]) wrote :>It does seem that the frequency and the size of his posts. are :>approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite there. yet. If :>his. postmaster were to act in this instance, it would raise troubling :>censorship. issues. The inescapable conclusion of the censorship effected. on the uk.* newsgroups is that. the British are intent on their wrongdoing remaining concealed, and therefore seek to subvert and suppress. freedom of speech, not only in their own country where. the media shows xenophobic bias and bile against all perceived enemies within and without, but. also in other countries which have their own. statutes to guarantee the basic human right of free. speech. It is absolutely. necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the open where it can be placed under scrutiny and the harassers seen for what. they are. That is the only way of making it impossible for the security. services to carry it out. There is a wider. dimension, though. Xenophobia as demonstrated by British people and institutions over the last. few years belongs to the same stable as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on. a Tube train made that racism explicit by referring to. their victim as a "soft toy,. not up to British Standards". Doubtless others victimize partly on the basis of race (isn’t it odd that they chose to torment. someone who is not ethnically English?) while expressing. their abuse in terms of another genetic attribute, namely. mental illness. All xenophobia on a genetic basis is. wrong, but while racial insults are illegal, abusing the mentally ill is neither against the law nor subject to. similar condemnation when it is. exposed. 5699

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= abuse. in set-up situations and in public -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Strangers in the. street have recognized me on sight many times, and shown awareness of the current thread of abuse. To give. you one example, in 1992 I was seriously ill, and a manager at work. somewhat humorously said that "it. wasn't fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later, I attended for the first time a clinic in London as. an outpatient, and on my way out was accosted by someone. who asked if "they had paid my fare", with emphasis on. the word "fare". He repeated the word several times in this different context; that they should have paid. my "fare", each time emphasizing the word. For two and a half years from. the time their harassment started until November 1992 I refused to see a psychiatrist, because I reasoned that. I was not ill. of my own action or fault, but through the stress caused by harassment, and. that a lessening of the illness would have to be consequent to a removal of its immediate cause,. in other words a cessation of harassment. I also reasoned that since they were. taunting me with jokes about. mental illness, if I were to seek treatment then the abusers would think that they. had "won" and been proved "right". Remember, the constant theme of any persecution is, "we must destroy you. because you're X", whether X is a. racial or other attribute. In this case the X was "we persecute you because. you have brain disease". The similarity of this logic to Nazi attitudes to the mentally. ill is striking. The same manager who'd said "it wasn't fair" asked me in. winter 1992 why I didn't seek help from. a psychiatrist; was it, he asked, because "they would think they had won" if I sought treatment? That. was something I'd never said at work... again, taken separately it proves nothing, but many. such things over a period of months proves. conclusively that people in the company knew what was going on, and in quite a lot of. detail. Usually harassment in public lacks the level of finesse. of "paying your fare". Most people's imagination does not go beyond. moronic parroting of the current term of denigration. That is not. surprising given the average level of the abusers; if they do not. have the intelligence to distinguish wrong from right then neither will. they have the capacity for anything other than mindless repetition of a. monosyllabic term calculated to fit into. their minds. The first incidents of verbal assault in public were in again in the. summer of 1990, although they increased. in frequency and venom with time. In July 1990 the first public incident occurred on a tube train. on the Northern line. Two men and their girlfriends recognised. me; the women sprang to my defence, saying "He looks perfectly normal,. he doesn't look ill". Their boyfriends of course knew better,. and followed the party line; one of them made reference to an "operation",. apparently to work at the tube station but implicitly to. a visit that I had made to hospital a couple of weeks previously. In August 1990 going home from. college, soon after getting on a tube train at Gloucester Road I was followed by a group of four. youths, who started a chant of abuse. That they were targeting me was confirmed. by other people in the carriage, one of whom asked the other. "who are they going on at, is it the. bloke who just got on?" to which the second replied "yes, I think so". I was tempted to. reply, but as in every other instance the abusers are enabled. in their cowardice by physically outnumbering the abused; any confrontation would result in my being beaten up,. followed by a complaint to the police that. "he attacked us", and of course he's ill, so he must have been imagining that we were getting at him. Shitty,. aren't they? But the shittiness of the four youths. on the tube train is as nothing compared to the episode on the National. Express coach to Dover in the summer of 1992. While going on holiday to the Continent. I was verbally set upon by a couple travelling sitting a. few rows behind. The boy did the talking, his female companion contributing only a continuous. empty giggling noise. He spoke loudly to ensure other people on the coach. heard, always about "they" and "this. bloke" but never naming either the abusers or the person he was talking about.. He said "they" had "found somebody from his school, and he was always really. stressed at school". They must have dug deep to find enemies there; perhaps. someone who dropped out of school, someone who didn't do too well later, who was jealous. and keen to get their own back? The boy also said "he was. in a bed and breakfast for only one night and they got him". By a not unexpected coincidence I had. been in a B&B in Oxford. a week previously, which had been booked from work; other things lead me to the conclusion that the company's offices were bugged. for most of the 2 1/2 years that I was there, so "they" would. have known a room in the B&B had. been booked. (But I'll bet "they" didn't tell the company's managers their offices were bugged,. did they?). After a few minutes of this I went back to where they. were sitting and asked where they were travelling.. The boy named a village in France, and the girl's giggling suddenly ceased; presumably it permeated to her. brain cell what the purpose of the boy's. abuse was. This and. other set-up situations are obviously calculated to provoke a direct confrontation which would bring in the. police, with the abusers claiming that they were the ones attacked.. Again in 1992, outside the house where I was living in Oxford I was. physically attacked by someone - not punched, just. grabbed by the coat, with some verbals thrown in for good measure. That was something the people at work shouldn't. have known about... but soon after a. couple of people were talking right in front of me about, "I. heard he was attacked". The UK police have a responsibility for preventing assault occurring,. but they do not seem to take any interest in meeting that. responsibility. I suppose their attitude is that harassment does not come within their remit unless. it involves physical assault, and they will only become involved once that happens. That is of. course quite the wrong attitude. for them to take, but as I now understand, the police investigate only the crime they. wish to investigate; if they do not take your complaints seriously then there is nothing you can do. to make them take. action. 3269

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= why. won't the British police do their job and put a stop to it? -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The British police obviously. do know what is taking place. Besides my interpretations of what. individual officers have said which forces that conclusion, it would be inconceivable for them. to be unaware of something on this. scale. If they know, then they will know. that the abusers have broken laws in the UK and abroad. Recently the UK introduced laws against electronic. spying which carry a penalty. of several years jail if caught. If the police know illegal harassment. is taking place, and do nothing about it, then they are failing in their. responsibilities. Last Easter (1995). I went into the local police station in London and spoke to an officer about the harassment against me. But. I couldn't provide tangible evidence; what people said, in many cases. years ago, is beyond proof, and without something to support my statements. I cannot expect a police officer to take the complaint. seriously. The current. situation with regard to the police is not one which allows a breakthrough in. dealing with the problem. On the one hand, most individual officers at a local police station may not know about the. ongoing assaults, so a complaint at that level will not. yield results. Yet the police as an organisation. do know of the harassment, and they must be aware that a complaint has been made at a police station. So it is clearly their duty. to take preventative action. against the continuing molestation, but because the criminals are. operating on behalf of a state agency, the police are not carrying out their. duty. 839

The article of which part is. reproduced below was penned by Bernard Levin for. the Features section of the Times on 21 September 1991. To my mind, it described the situation at the time and in. particular a recent meeting with a. friend, during which I for the first time admitted to someone other than my GP that I had been. subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the previous year and. a half. >There is a madman running loose about London,. called David Campbell; I have >no reason to believe that. he is violent, but he should certainly be >approached with caution. You may know him by the curious. glitter in his >eyes and a. persistent trembling of his hands; if that does not suffice, you >will find him attempting to thrust. no fewer than 48 books into your arms, >all hardbacks, with a promise. that, if you should return to the same >meeting-place next year,. he will heave another 80 at you. > >If, by now,. the police have arrived and are keeping a close watch on him, >you may. feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are >a model of uncluttered typography,. elegantly and simply laid out; there is >an unobtrusive colophon of a rising sun, probably not picked at. random. >Gaining confidence -. the lunatic is smiling by now, and the policemen, who >know about such things, have significantly. removed their helmets - you >could do worse than take the jacket off the. first book in the pile. The >only word possible to describe the binding is sumptuous; real. cloth in a >glorious. shade of dark green, with the title and author in black and gold >on the. spine. > >Look at it. more closely; your eyes do not deceive you - it truly does have >real top-bands and tail-bands, in yellow, and, for good measure, a. silk >marker ribbon. in a lighter green. The paper is cream-wove and acid-free, >and the. book is sewn, not glued. > >Throughout the encounter, I should. have mentioned, our loony has been >chattering away, although what he is trying to say is. almost impossible to >understand;. after a time, however, he becomes sufficiently coherent to make >clear that. he is trying to sell the books to you. Well, now, such quality >in bookmaking. today can only be for collectors' limited editions at a >fearsome price -. #30, #40, #50? > >No, no, he says, the glitter more. powerful than ever and the trembling of >his hands rapidly spreading throughout his entire body;. no, no - the books >are. priced variously at #7, #8 or #9, with the top price #12. > >At this, the policemen understandably. put their helmets back on; one of >them draws his truncheon and the other. can be heard summoning >reinforcements on his walkie-talkie. The madman bursts into. tears, and >swears. it is all true. > >And it. is. > >David Campbell has acquired the entire rights to. the whole of the >Everyman's Library, which died a lingering and shameful death. a decade or >so ago, and. he proposes to start it all over again - 48 volumes this >September and 80 more next year, in editions I have. described, at the >prices. specified. He proposes to launch his amazing venture simultaneously >in Britain and the United States, with. the massive firepower of Random >Century. at his back in this country, and the dashing cavalry of Knopf >across the. water, and no one who loves literature and courage will forbear >to. cheer. At the time this article was written I. had believed for some time that columnists in the. Times and other journalists had been making references to my situation. Nothing unusual about this you may. think, plenty of people have the same. sort of ideas and obviously the papers aren't writing about them, so why should my beliefs not be as false. as those of others? What makes this article so extraordinary is. that three or four days immediately preceding its publication,. I had a meeting with a friend, during the. course of which we discussed the media persecution, and in particular that by Times columnists.. It seemed to me, reading the article by. Levin in Saturday’s paper, that he was describing in some detail his "artist’s impression" of that meeting. Most. telling are the final sentences, when he. writes, "The madman bursts into tears, and swears it is all true. And. it is." Although I did not "burst into tears" (he seems to be using a bit. of poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try hard to convince my friend that it was. all true; and I am able to concur with Mr Levin, because, of course,. it is. At the beginning of the piece. Levin reveals a fear of being attacked by the "irrational" subject of his story,. saying "I have no reason to believe that he is violent, but he should certainly. be approached with caution". This goes back to the xenophobic propaganda of. "defence" against a "threat" which was seen at the very beginning of the harassment.. The impression of a "madman running loose" who needs to. be controlled through an agency which assigns to itself the mantle of the. "police" is also one which had been expressed. elsewhere. In the final paragraph of this extract, his reference to. Everyman’s Library as having "died a lingering and shameful death a decade or so ago". shows clearly what sort of conclusion they wish to their campaign.. They want a permanent solution, and as they are prevented. from achieving that solution directly, they waste significant resources on. methods which have been repeatedly shown to be ineffective. for such a purpose. 839

The article of which part is reproduced below. was penned by Bernard Levin for the Features section of the Times on 21 September 1991.. To my mind, it described the situation at the time and in particular a. recent meeting with a friend, during which I for the first time. admitted to someone other than my GP that I had. been subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the previous. year and a half. >There is a madman running loose about London, called David. Campbell; I have >no reason to believe that he is. violent, but he should certainly be >approached with caution. You. may know him by the curious glitter in his >eyes and a persistent trembling of his hands; if. that does not suffice, you >will find him attempting to thrust no fewer than 48 books into your. arms, >all hardbacks, with a promise that, if you should return to. the same >meeting-place next year,. he will heave another 80 at you. > >If, by now, the police have arrived and are keeping a. close watch on him, >you may. feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are >a model of uncluttered typography, elegantly and simply laid out; there. is >an unobtrusive colophon of. a rising sun, probably not picked at random. >Gaining confidence - the lunatic. is smiling by now, and the policemen, who >know about such things, have significantly removed their. helmets - you >could do worse than take the jacket off the. first book in the pile. The >only word possible to describe the binding is sumptuous; real cloth in. a >glorious shade of dark. green, with the title and author in black and gold >on the. spine. > >Look at it more closely; your eyes do not deceive you -. it truly does have >real top-bands and tail-bands,. in yellow, and, for good measure, a silk >marker ribbon in a lighter green. The paper is cream-wove and. acid-free, >and the. book is sewn, not glued. > >Throughout the encounter, I should have mentioned, our loony. has been >chattering away, although what he is trying to say is almost impossible. to >understand; after a time, however, he becomes sufficiently coherent. to make >clear that he is trying to sell the books to. you. Well, now, such quality >in bookmaking today can only be for collectors'. limited editions at a >fearsome price -. #30, #40, #50? > >No, no, he says, the glitter more powerful. than ever and the trembling of >his hands. rapidly spreading throughout his entire body; no, no - the books >are priced variously at #7, #8 or. #9, with the top price #12. > >At this, the policemen. understandably put their helmets back on; one of >them draws his truncheon and the other. can be heard summoning >reinforcements. on his walkie-talkie. The madman bursts into tears, and >swears it is. all true. > >And it. is. > >David Campbell has acquired the entire rights to. the whole of the >Everyman's Library, which died a lingering and shameful death a decade. or >so ago, and. he proposes to start it all over again - 48 volumes this >September and 80 more next year, in editions. I have described, at the >prices specified. He proposes to launch. his amazing venture simultaneously >in Britain and the United States, with the massive. firepower of Random >Century at his back in this country,. and the dashing cavalry of Knopf >across the water, and no one who loves. literature and courage will forbear >to. cheer. At the time this article was written I had believed. for some time that columnists in the Times and other journalists had been making references. to my situation. Nothing unusual about this you may think, plenty. of people have the same sort of ideas and obviously the. papers aren't writing about them, so why should my beliefs. not be as false as those of others? What makes this article so. extraordinary is that three or four days immediately preceding its publication, I had a meeting with a. friend, during the course of which we discussed the media. persecution, and in particular that by Times columnists. It seemed to me,. reading the article by Levin in. Saturday’s paper, that he was describing in some detail his "artist’s impression" of that meeting. Most telling. are the final sentences, when he writes, "The. madman bursts into tears, and swears it is all true. And it is." Although I did not "burst into tears" (he. seems to be using a bit of poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try. hard to convince my friend that it was all true; and I am able to concur with Mr. Levin, because,. of course, it is. At the beginning of the piece Levin reveals a fear. of being attacked by the "irrational" subject of his story, saying "I have no reason to. believe that he is violent, but. he should certainly be approached with caution". This goes. back to the xenophobic propaganda of "defence" against a "threat" which was seen at the very beginning of the harassment. The. impression of a "madman running. loose" who needs to be controlled through an agency which assigns to itself the. mantle of the "police" is also one which had been expressed. elsewhere. In the. final paragraph of this extract, his reference to Everyman’s Library as. having "died a lingering and shameful death a decade or so ago" shows clearly what sort of conclusion they wish to. their campaign. They want a permanent. solution, and as they are prevented from achieving that solution directly, they waste significant. resources on methods which have been repeatedly shown to. be ineffective for such a purpose. 5699

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= who. knows about it? =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Many people know, both in. the establishment and media, and among the general public. Despite an absence of its target. from the UK for more than two years, the echoes of paranoia can still be heard. loud and clear from across the water. When it started in 1990, the only people who knew. were those in BBC. television who were spying on my home, and a few radio broadcasters. There were a few cases of. public harassment, but very little compared to the. situation that developed a couple of years later. The. list today includes BBC TV staff (newsreaders such as Martyn Lewis, Michael Buerk, Nicholas Witchell), people from radio stations such. as Chris Tarrant of Capital and. Radio 1 DJs, people in the print media, but also many people in the. general public. All united in a conspiracy which breaks the laws which. the UK does have regarding harassment, and all completely uncaring. for any semblance of decency or elementary respect for individual. rights. The British police (obviously) do know the nature of. the harassment and in all probability the identity of those behind it.. Some time ago I made a complaint. to my local police station in London, without positive result. The UK police are failing in. their duty to see the law enforced in not checking. the abuse. 3269

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-= -=. Capital Radio - Chris Tarrant -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-= Capital Radio DJs have been "in on it" from the start. One. of the first things I heard in the summer of 1990 was from a Capital. DJ who said, "If he listens to Capital then. he can't be all bad" (supportive, you see. We're not bastards). Much of what. came over the radio in 1990 is now so far away the precise details have been. obliterated by time. No diary was kept of the details, and although. archives if they exist may give pointers, the ambiguity of what broadcasters said would leave. that open to re-interpretation. In spring 1994, Chris Tarrant on his Capital. morning show made an aside to someone else in the studio, about a person. he didn't identify. He said, "You. know this bloke? He says we're trying to kill him. We should be done for attempted. manslaughter". That mirrored something I had said a. day or two before. What Tarrant said was understood by the staff member in the. studio he was saying it to; they said,. "Oh no, don't say that" to Tarrant. If any archives exist of the morning show (probably unlikely) then it could be found there;. what he said was so out of context that he would. be very hard put to find an explanation. A couple of days later, someone at the site where I was. working repeated the remark although in a different way; they said there had been people in. a computer room. when automatic fire extinguishers went off and those people were. "thinking of suing for attempted manslaughter". Finally, this isn't confined. to the established radio stations. In 1990 after I had listened to a pirate radio. station in South London for about half an. hour, there was an audible phone call in the background, followed by total silence for a few moments, then shrieks of laughter. "So what. are we supposed to say now? Deadly. torture? He's going to talk to us now, isn't he?", which meant. that they could hear what I would say in my room. 5699

HI GUYS, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. WHERE IS THE LIST MODERATOR......MY IN BOX IS GETTING CLUTTERED WITH THE BELOW MESSAGES.. HELP PLEASE -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:19 Subject: M'I.5 Persecut ion Bernard L evin expre sses h is vi ews he article of which part is reproduced below. was penned by Bernard Levin or the Features section of the Times on 21 September 1991.. To my mind, it escribed the situation at the time and in particular a. recent meeting with friend, during which I for the first time. admitted to someone other than y GP that I had. been subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the revious. year and a half. >There is a madman running loose about London, called David. Campbell; I have no reason to believe that he is. violent, but he should certainly be approached with caution. You. may know him by the curious glitter in his eyes and a persistent trembling of his hands; if. that does not suffice, you will find him attempting to thrust no fewer than 48 books into your. arms, all hardbacks, with a promise that, if you should return to. the same meeting-place next year,. he will heave another 80 at you. If, by now, the police have arrived and are keeping a. close watch on him, you may. feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are a model of uncluttered typography, elegantly and simply laid out; there. is an unobtrusive colophon of. a rising sun, probably not picked at random. Gaining confidence - the lunatic. is smiling by now, and the policemen, who know about such things, have significantly removed their. helmets - you could do worse than take the jacket off the. first book in the pile. The only word possible to describe the binding is sumptuous; real cloth in. a glorious shade of dark. green, with the title and author in black and gold on the. spine. Look at it more closely; your eyes do not deceive you -. it truly does have real top-bands and tail-bands,. in yellow, and, for good measure, a silk marker ribbon in a lighter green. The paper is cream-wove and. acid-free, and the. book is sewn, not glued. Throughout the encounter, I should have mentioned, our loony. has been chattering away, although what he is trying to say is almost impossible. to understand; after a time, however, he becomes sufficiently coherent. to make clear that he is trying to sell the books to. you. Well, now, such quality in bookmaking today can only be for collectors'. limited editions at a fearsome price -. #30, #40, #50? No, no, he says, the glitter more powerful. than ever and the trembling of his hands. rapidly spreading throughout his entire body; no, no - the books are priced variously at #7, #8 or. #9, with the top price #12. At this, the policemen. understandably put their helmets back on; one of them draws his truncheon and the other. can be heard summoning reinforcements. on his walkie-talkie. The madman bursts into tears, and swears it is. all true. And it. is. David Campbell has acquired the entire rights to. the whole of the Everyman's Library, which died a lingering and shameful death a decade. or so ago, and. he proposes to start it all over again - 48 volumes this September and 80 more next year, in editions. I have described, at the prices specified. He proposes to launch. his amazing venture simultaneously in Britain and the United States, with the massive. firepower of Random Century at his back in this country,. and the dashing cavalry of Knopf across the water, and no one who loves. literature and courage will forbear to. cheer. At the time this article was written I had believed. for some time that olumnists in the Times and other journalists had been making references. to y situation. Nothing unusual about this you may think, plenty. of people ave the same sort of ideas and obviously the. papers aren't writing about hem, so why should my beliefs. not be as false as those of others? What makes this article so. extraordinary is that three or four days mmediately preceding its publication, I had a meeting with a. friend, uring the course of which we discussed the media. persecution, and in articular that by Times columnists. It seemed to me,. reading the article y Levin in. Saturday’s paper, that he was describing in some detail his artist’s impression" of that meeting. Most telling. are the final entences, when he writes, "The. madman bursts into tears, and swears it is ll true. And it is." Although I did not "burst into tears" (he. seems to be sing a bit of poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try. hard to convince y friend that it was all true; and I am able to concur with Mr. Levin, ecause,. of course, it is. At the beginning of the piece Levin reveals a fear. of being attacked by the irrational" subject of his story, saying "I have no reason to. believe that e is violent, but. he should certainly be approached with caution". This oes. back to the xenophobic propaganda of "defence" against a "threat" hich was seen at the very beginning of the harassment. The. impression of a madman running. loose" who needs to be controlled through an agency which ssigns to itself the. mantle of the "police" is also one which had been xpressed. elsewhere. In the. final paragraph of this extract, his reference to Everyman’s Library s. having "died a lingering and shameful death a decade or so ago" shows learly what sort of conclusion they wish to. their campaign. They want a ermanent. solution, and as they are prevented from achieving that solution irectly, they waste significant. resources on methods which have been epeatedly shown to. be ineffective for such a purpose. 5699 ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-= -= the BBC, television and. radio -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-= The first incident in June 1990. was when a BBC newsreader made what seemed to be a reaction to something which had happened. in my home, and out of context of what they were reading. My first reaction. was disbelief; nothing of the sort had ever happened. before, the idea that such a thing could occur had not crossed my mind, yet there was no. doubt of what had just taken place. My disbelief eroded as this. recurred time after time. Besides the news, offenders included. shows such as Crimewatch (!), Newsnight, and "entertainment" shows. There seems to be very. little moral understanding among the people who make these programmes; they just assume. they will never be caught, so they carry on without a. thought for the illegality or amorality of what they do. The only time. I ever heard a word raised in doubt was by Paxman being interviewed by someone else. (I think by Clive Anderson) back in 1990; referring to the "watching" he said. it troubled him, and when asked by. the host what you could do about it, replied "Well, you could just switch it off" (meaning the surveillance monitor in. the studio). He clearly didn't let. his doubts stand in the way of continued surreptitious spying from his own. or other people's shows, though. Now you're convinced this is a troll, aren't you? This story. has been the subject of much debate on the uk.* Usenet newsgroups for. over a year, and some readers believe it to be an invention (it has. even been suggested that a group of psychology students are. responsible!), others think it symptomatic of a derangement of the author, and a few give. it credence. Quite a few people do know part or all of. the story already, so this text will fill in the gaps in their knowledge. For. the rest, what may persuade you of the third possibility is that some of the. incidents detailed are checkable against any archives of radio and TV programmes. that exist; that the incidents involve named. people (even if those hiding in the shadows have not made their identity or affiliations. evident), and those people may. be persuaded to come out with the truth; and that the campaign of harassment. is continuing today both in the UK and on the American continent, in a none-too-secret fashion; by. its nature the significant risk of. exposure increases with time. On several occasions people said to my face that. harassment from the TV was happening. On the. first day I worked in Oxford, I spent the evening in the local pub with the company's technical. director Ian, and Phil, another employee. Ian made a few references to me and said to. Phil, as if in an aside, "Is he the. bloke who's been on TV?" to which Phil replied, "Yes, I think. so". I made a number of efforts to find the bugs,. without success; last year we employed professional counter-surveillance people to. scan for bugs (see later) again without result. In autumn 1990 I disposed. of my TV and watched virtually no television for. the next three years. But harassment from TV stations has gone on for over six years and continues to this. day. This is something that many people obviously know is happening;. yet the TV staff have the morality of paedophiles, that. because they're getting away with it they feel no. wrong. Other people who were involved in the abuse in 1990 were DJs on BBC. radio stations, notably disc jockeys. from Radio 1 and other stations (see the following section). Again, since they don't have sense. in the first place they. can't be expect to have the moral sense not to be part of criminal harassment. 839

This persecution does not seem to be inhibiting you from earning plenty money to do all this travelling abroad. Lend me a fiver????? True or not, these posts make you sound like a loony!

MI5. Persecution Update: Friday 7 April, 2000 22,544 + 837 =. 23,381 Last weekend I delivered another 837 faxes to politicians. and the media on the subject of the. security service conspiracy which has destroyed my life. This brings. the total in the last three years to at least 23,381. These totals do. not include partially delivered faxes. Some of the recipients of these. faxes must know that what I say is true; and I hope to motivate. those people to acknowledge the reality of the harassment which has followed me for ten. years. It takes much time to transmit these articles, but. as OCG MD Simpson-Wells said to me in 1992, you have. to be a good communicator if you are to succeeed. Harassment in. February 2000 Following a quiet period of almost five. months, the persecution resumed with a vengeance in late January/February 2000. At this time I was at. home in Clapham, London and was a relatively. easy target for the persecutors. They have my house bugged, for audio and I. believe video in some rooms as well; so they can. find out easily where I will be going on a particular day, and place people in that location. to mouth words of abuse at me. (I know the last sentence sounds like. classic paranoia, but it happens to be true, and some of the people reading this know. it to be true.) On Friday 11 February 2000 I went shopping in Croydon, to. buy a watch at H. Samuels jewellers in the Whitgift Centre. While. I was there two youths came into the. shop, one of them quietly uttered an obscenity at me, and they immediately walked out. They showed no interest. in the shop. That Sunday I met with a friend in Clapham,. who started needling me about "do you know anything about the. CIA and FBI?". Rather unsubtle, and worrying considering Ive known this guy for 20 years.. From the words and demeanour of this "friend" and others in February, I saw. that the persecutors have again been trying to separate from me what remains. of my social. life. Incidents in my Road in. February MI5 very rarely place. people in my home road to harass me, but such was their persecutory fervour in February that they did so on three. separate occasions. On the first such occasion, I was. met my two youths who, grinning, said a deeply offensive. sexual obscenity at me - at which I coughed at them, so they called me a "wanker". This. incident is safely recorded on minidisc-walkman,. but because of the offensive nature of their abuse the recording will not. be made public. Another. incident very early in the morning of Sunday 20/Feb/2000 occurred outside my home, following an evening in Croydon with. some schoolfriends.. Again there were two youths - for some reason the persecutors always travel in. twos or threes, very rarely is there just one of them - perhaps they need a group to. bolster their courage, perhaps just one of them wouldnt have. the guts to say something unpleasant. One of the youths said. quietly, and bitterly, "shitty, very shitty". Anyway, in. March there were no further incidents near my house in in my road, and our neighbours are very well. disposed towards us, so let us hope that the. current quiet continues. 14351 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDem

Three. Years of "MI5 Persecution" Faxes Ten Thousand Faxes,. and Still No Breakthrough In the last three years I have sent at least 5,301 faxes. directly from my computer, and 4,478 faxes. through Demons extremely useful TPC.INT service, to politicians. and the media, in the subject of the "MI5 Persecution". This has obviously cost me quite a lot of money,. not to mention time and effort.. The aim of all this communication has been to try to put discussion of the "MI5 persecution". into the public arena; unfortunately,. this aim has not been achieved, yet. This fax will. be my last transmission for the time being, since the summer recess is almost upon us. Depending on what the persecutors do between. now and the autumn, I may. or may not resume faxing later this year. In the article dated. 18/6/99 I said Id stop the articles if MI5 left me alone; but they. seem to have no fear of these articles, since they kept pursuing me in Poland and after. my return to the UK. Again, if they leave me alone this summer then I wont have to resume. the articles in the autumn; but I think its fairly obvious that MI5 have nothing better to. do with their time than to go after me, and its almost pointless to. make this offer when I know they wont cease harassing. me. TPC.INT 1996,. 1997, 1998..... Three years ago I was living in Canada, and the only economic. way of sending. faxes to the UK was through the international email-to-fax gateway TPC.INT.. This highly useful and totally free service converts emails (which. may have Postscript-formatted attachments) into faxes which it delivers to any number within the UK. Using the telephone book,. I constructed a computer database of M.P.s fax. numbers, and used this database to. deliver copies of the "FAQ - frequently asked questions". article which Id written some time earlier. This service is still operational, but given that I have. resided in London for the last year, I do not need to use Demons service when I can. send articles directly from my own. computer using its fax/modem, which is what I have been doing since. 1998. However, instead of just sending the FAQ article, Ive. been composing articles on various aspects of MI5s treatment of me. Since their activities have been going on for nine years. now, and there have been various aspects to their actions; they have harassed me. at work, at home, through the media, etc; I have. so far not run out of things to say,. particularly since their harassment of me is still ongoing, and I have been able to record the actual words used by their paid agents. on my minidisc-walkman.. Since mid-March 1999 I have been sending these articles pretty. much every weekend. Anyway, as mentioned above, I intend this. to be the final transmission before the summer recess, and it would be nice not. to have to continue these articles in the autumn. But thats something. that depends on them, not. me, and their attitude is unfortunately clear. Why am I sending. these articles? Because I want the harassment to stop.. The cynical reader might think from these articles that I. "thrive on adversity" and would be lost without the harassment to complain about; but that is not the case. In. a perfect world I would like to return to work, in. a job unsullied by MI5s attempts to ruin it; I would like to live in a. house which wasnt bugged, with my words being repeated at me wherever. I go; I would like a normal life. I do not particularly. thrive on adversity; I am beaten down by adversity; the purpose of these faxes is to try to bring the whole matter out into. the public arena, where the rights and wrongs would be visible to. all, and once that were to happen, the adversity might cease. I have had. something approaching a normal life. a couple of times in the last nine years, but always,. in the end, MI5 turn up and ruin it. I just want these people out of my life,. permanently, and the only way of doing that is to kick this business into the public arena, and shame MI5 so that they are. incapable of. doing me further damage. Having said that, unfortunately it. seems fairly obvious by now that these faxed articles are not going to achieve that aim. Some of. the recipients know what I am saying is. true; but they choose to stay quiet - wisely, because if they were. to admit the truth of these articles, then they would bring the wrath of MI5 down. on their heads. Presumably most recipients do not know these. articles are true; their reaction to me is the same as my reaction to the other apparently deluded people. who have sent me email after reading my webpage to tell me it happened to them too;. the reaction being, "leave. me alone, I dont want to know". Its sad that many M.P.s have given. me this reaction, because my case genuinely is different; I genuinely am telling the truth, and. the harassment genuinely is happening to me, and some recipients. of this fax know this to be true. "Write to. your own M.P." My local M.P. is. Mr Keith Hill, Labour-Streatham. He refuses to have anything to do with me. He refuses to represent me, he refuses. to talk to me, he has told me not to communicate with him. He has. done absolutely nothing to help me,. and he has told me he will do absolutely nothing to help. me. Other M.P.s, recipients of these. faxes, have for quite some time been telling me, "write. to your own M.P.". On 23 March 1998, Paul Burstow M.P. wrote. to me; "Whilst I take the issues that you raise seriously, there is a strict Parliamentary convention that one Member. of Parliament does not take up anothers casework. Can I. suggest that you write to your own M.P. at the House. of Commons?" Hopefully the above paragraph will make clear that I have written. to my own M.P. and he has proved unhelpful. Other M.P.s have told me the same thing.. On 21 May 1998, John McFall M.P. told me, "... there is a parliamentary convention that M.P.s do. not take up cases of people not in their. constituency..... therefore can I suggest that you write to your. local M.P. who will be better able to assist you." And on 8 June. 1998, Michael Foster M.P. wrote to me that "M.P.s are inundated with unsolicited faxes. .... M.P.s have a considerable amount of constituent work to. deal with, thus other M.P.s constituents cease to be of concern in. so far as they should have a voice and representation". Simon Hughes M.P. wrote to me on 5. November 1998, "There is a strict parliamentary convention which states that I am not. able to represent individuals who are not constituents. of mine. My advice is that you find out who your own Member of. Parliament is rather than circulating your story to all. M.P.s.". To my suggestion that Keith Hill M.P. was doing nothing to help me,. George Foulkes M.P. sent the following faxed response; "If Keith Hill your own M.P. cannot help. no-one else in the House of Commons can." But it is clearly not a case of "cannot" help,. but "will not". help. I have detailed in letters to Mr Hill specific ways in which he could help me,. first of all by finding a lawyer to represent me. It. is Mr Hills job as a Member of Parliament to represent his constituents; if. he chooses not to do so, then it reflects badly on him. Kate. Hoey Sympathises, but says, "Write to your own M.P." Here is part of a letter Ms Hoey sent to me on. 15 June 1999. I appreciate that. you have concerns about the persecution and harassment that you feel you are experiencing but I note that your MP is in. fact Keith Hill. There. is a very strict Parliamentary code which means that M.P.s can only take action on. matters that relate to their own constituents. I am aware that you are. not happy with the fact that you do not feel Mr Hill will assist you but. I am afraid that I cannot take any action on your. behalf. Ms Hoey plainly belongs. in the camp of people who do not know about the reality of. the "MI5 Persecution". She doubts its existence; "the harassment you. feel you are experiencing". She urges me to see Mr Hills assistance, as have other M.P.s. detailed above. Really, the fact that. I am unable to obtain assistance from any other M.P., if my own alleged "representative" Mr. Hill chooses not to represent me, is. a very basic weakness in the Parliamentary system. Beinggmainly events at my. former employers in Oxford during 1992, when I was harassed constantly by manager Steve Mitchell for most of 1992, and was forced. to begin attending hospital as an outpatient as. a result. This harassment was obviously of Mitchells own. volition, since I observed him harass similarly another new worker two years later; but it was also at. MI5s instigation, since they kept providing him. with words from my home life which he then proceeded to abuse me with. Yet this is not the. only employment that MI5 have destroyed;. the MI5 persecution has lasted from the end of my student days until. the present time, during which I have had three jobs, all of which have been in various ways destroyed by MI5s deliberate. actions. In March 1999 I decided to try to force the issue once and. for all. Ever weekend. for the last four months, apart from two weeks when I was on holiday, I have sent original articles by. fax directly from my computer to Westminster politicians. Here is a summary of the articles of the. last four. months; How to. Identify the Persecutors Their use. of Schizophrenia to discredit my claims Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German "Final. Solution" MI5 are Plainly Trying to. Kill Me MI5 Waste. Taxpayer Millions on Pointless Hate-Campaign Four Years of. "MI5 Persecution" Posts on Internet Newsgroups MI5 Agents are Clinical. Psychopaths BBC. Newscasters Lior the Victims of MI5 MI5 Have. Systematically Destroyed My Life Harassment through the. Radio To my deep worry these fourteen faxed articles. have still not achieved the objective. of kicking the matter out into the public arena and forcing an admission either from the persecutors, or from those "in the know",. which includes. some M.P.s. I. dont really know what else to do to try to bring the "MI5 persecution". out into the open. I would have expected that these weekly faxed articles would have had some. effect, but the only result has been M.P.s telling me to contact my own. representative Mr Hill who refuses to talk to me. I. understand the convention that M.P.s deal with their own constituents and not those of other M.P.s,. but there seems to be a gap in the process since it allows your. own M.P. to refuse to deal with you, and then you are. totally denied any representation at all. Conclusion The only conclusion I. can inform the readership of these articles of, is that there is no. conclusion to this matter, yet! Three years of intermittent articles, and four months of faxes every weekend, have. been absorbed by some of. the most powerful people in the country, to no effect. Whether these articles continue in the Autumn is entirely. up to the "opposition". I offered them a cessation of complaints if. they would leave me alone. on holiday in June/July, and they went right ahead and harassed me anyway, on holiday and. after I returned to London. If MI5 cease their activities now, then I. wont have to continue these faxes in the autumn; but I suspect they. wont cease, which means youre in for more articles later. this year. "There will be no conclusion." 9365 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDem

MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 9. July, 1999 Harassment in Poland, July. 1999 And still it. continues.... in my last fax I said that provided MI5 made no attempts at harassment. during my two-week holiday this summer, or after I returned to England, then I would discontinue. these faxes. Unfortunately MI5 have continued to. harass me, both during the holiday and after my return to London. I really dont want to continue. these articles, since they take up so much time and effort, not. to mention expense; but the Security Service wont even let. me have a holiday in peace and quiet, so I have to make further efforts to bring their activities out into the. open. In early July I visited my aunt and her family in. Poland. On Saturday 3 July 1999, I went to a family barbecue at an. allotment outside the city. One of my. aunts family has previously shown himself to be in the "enemy" camp, by saying the Polish equivalent of. "something wrong with him",. and various other unprovoked insults. It is disappointing that one of my family could forsake the usual ties of blood and take part in. the actions against me, but thats the way it is. This guy turned up. at the barbecue, and started making insults against me. In. particular, he started to say something. about the video camera which I had brought along on the trip,. and the relevance of the video-camera to my fight against the persecution. It seemed. pretty obvious to me that my enemies had told him to turn up to this occasion, and most likely schooled him in. precisely what words to say; since hes. an unintelligent person and would not be able to think for himself what insults to make against. me. Harassment in London,. week ending Friday 9 July 1999 Got back to London Wednesay afternoon. Two incidents. on the Underground returning from. the airport. Unfortunately I wasnt recording because I wasnt expecting trouble, so these slipped through the net. One of. these was verbal sexual abuse, of the type. Ive heard many, many times before these last three-and-a-half. years. Yesterday, Thursday 8/July/1999, I switched. on Heart FM which had never "got at" me before.... and the presenter started making jokes about. "mad, crazy" etc. Again, wasnt recording this because Id never. had any trouble from this radio station. and wasnt expecting any. Also yesterday, on a bus. (155?) from Balham to Clapham, a couple of girls started harassing me with taunts of. "crazy". By now I was expecting trouble and recorded an audio file of this instance of abuse, at. web URL; The cynical reader might think my demeanour or behaviour had given rise. to the taunts of "crazy" recorded. above. But I assure you my behaviour on the bus would not have made anyone think I was ill; and the. taunts the previous day were the same sexual words as previously; so I'm. quite sure that these. incidents are either deliberately staged, or indicative of an overall. high level of awareness among the London public, particularly in the part. of London where I live. Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative,. as ever refuses to. help. MI5 Persecution: Harassment. through the Radio One of. the aspects of the MI5 persecution has been harassment through the broadcast. and print media; and one of the aspects of harassment through the broadcast media is being "got at" by. radio presenters. This being "got at" from the radio takes. various forms, the most obvious form being through overt or hidden words. and insults. But there are other, subtler forms. In Canada a couple. of years ago, I used to listen to the local radio stations every morning driving to work, and listened to the. music only, switching between radio station presets rapidly as soon. as a presenters voice came on, so that I would. not be subjected to any verbal harassment. by the D.J.s. But they found a way around this; they kept on playing the same song, every bl**dy morning at the same time, which. had the words "all coming. back to me"; the perceptive reader will remember that the words "coming back" have special. meaning (see the Private Eye cover at web URL; for. the hidden. meaning). And thats not the only time theyve allowed the songs themselves to. be used as abuse against me; many years ago Radio-1 in the UK did. exactly the same, and the. DJ even made it explicitly clear by saying, "dont you sometimes feel as if the songs. were made just for you". "We should be done for attempted. manslaughter" says Chris Tarrant Capital Radio DJs have been "in on it" from the start. One. of the first things I heard in the summer. of 1990 was from a Capital DJ who said, "If he. listens to Capital then he can't be all bad" (supportive, you see. We're not bastards). Much of what came over. the radio in 1990 is now so far away the precise details have been obliterated by. time. No diary was kept of the details, and although archives if they exist. may give pointers, the ambiguity of what. broadcasters said would leave that open to re-interpretation. In spring 1994, Chris Tarrant on his Capital morning show. made an aside to someone else. in the studio, about a person he didn't identify. He said, "You. know this bloke? He says we're trying to kill him. We should be done for attempted. manslaughter". That mirrored something I. had said a day or two before. What Tarrant said was understood. by the staff member in the studio he was saying it to; they said, "Oh no, don't say that". to Tarrant. If any archives exist of the morning. show (probably unlikely) then it could be found there; what he said was. so out of context that he would be very hard put to find an explanation. A couple of days later, someone at the site. where I was working repeated. the remark although in a different way; they said there had been people in a computer room when. automatic fire extinguishers went off. and those people were "thinking of suing for attempted manslaughter". Pirate Radio. "gets at" me In another incident in 1990/91, Id been listening. to a pirate radio station in South London for half an hour,. when there was an audible phone call. in the background, then total silence for a few moments, followed by shrieks of. laughter. "So what are we supposed to say now? Deadly torture? Hes going to talk to. us now, isnt he?" which meant that they could hear what. I would say in my room. Note the word "deadly" - they give away. their purpose. It constantly surprised me that MI5 are so easily. able to subvert broadcasters, and, in this case of the pirate station, to do. so, so quickly. I think the answer to this question is that they. must have very wide contacts in the broadcast. media; presumably some or in fact many of those contacts. are literally "bought". In the same way as they tried to buy Jon Snow. of Channel Four news, they must have bought many broadcasters and use them both. directly to make insults against me, and promulgate their points of view;. but also, they must use these "bought" broadcasters to influence other television. and radio presenters, who might not even be aware that it was. on MI5s behalf that they were being influenced to "get at". me. BBC-Radio-1. D.J.s celebrate my job termination in November 1991 This is. another one from the "early years". At the beginning of November 1991 my employment in Woking, Surrey was. terminated. Chris Tarrant of Capital-FM. had already made nasty remarks about both my work for the company,. and the managers of the company themselves - "so theyre not really a. serious company, well theyd have to be to employ you wouldnt they". So when I. was terminated, as you can expect, BBC Radio 1 D.J.s celebrated. On the Saturday afternoon (either 9/Nov/1991 or 16/Nov/1991. - I cannot remember precisely) I briefly. listened to Radio-1 and heard the disc jockeys loudly proclaiming "youre useless, you should. be sacked". On the same day, I went down to the Kwik-Fit in Tooting. to get my cars tyres replaced, and in the office ran into a couple of their staff,. one of them with an Australian accent, who said "what do you. think about it then? Its getting killed. on the radio." Plainly, if a random car-repair shop in. Tooting knew about the persecution, then many thousands of other. people across the capital and all over the country must have known. And the. phrase "getting killed" shows very clear awareness of what the. MI5 Persecutors intentions towards me. were in 1991, and judging by the continuing harassment, still remain. today. Recent. Feedback from Virgin-Radio As readers will know, from mid-March 1999. for some four months, every weekend, I have bombarded Westminster. MPs with faxes about the terrible, all-encompassing MI5 Persecution. (Jesting. aside, it really is terrible and all-encompassing, in the UK. anyway.) In June 1999, after I'd been at it some. three months, I started getting "covert" feedback from Virgin Radio. The first feedback I got was from Danny Baker, on. Sunday 13th June. That weekend I was sending an article which contained biting criticism of. the police inaction in this case.. Danny Baker on his Virgin radio show started an angry rant that. "he knows it's rubbish", ie. he was rubbishing what I'd said in that weekend's faxed article. Unfortunately I wasn't. recording this. programme. The next possible Virgin-Radio feedback was a. week later on 19th June 1999. This is contained in the audio file above, in which. Johnny Boy on his "Wheels of. Steel" programme says; "and if you would like to put a. triple play together, ahhh.... because quite frankly Hipster. and me are running out of ideas...." He goes on to counter Hipster's "how dare. you" with a protestation that he is "only joking". You can listen. to this incident on my website at URL; What. I reckon is that my article faxed to MPs that weekend was forwarded by. one of the recipients to Virgin Radio. My article had included the words; "I am beginning to. run out of both new topics and energy to write these articles." So what I reckon is that Johnny. Boy read the article.... and rephrased the above line "run out of ... new topics" to. "running out of ideas". I recognise. that this is a pretty tenuous inference to make.... but do listen to the audio file, from the "ahhh...." pause. in JB's speech you can guess he is. about to say something "risky" and at someone's expense. Anyway, I listen to the Wheels. of Steel regularly and will continue to do so, recording. it as I always do - so any future funny remarks will. get immortalised on my website! (There was a previous incident from. August 1998 which is preserved at web URL; but I am sufficiently uncertain about it that I have not included. it in this. article.) First Ever Radio Reference - Alan. Freeman of BBC-Radio-1 The first time I was ever referred to on the radio was sometime. in May or June of 1990, by Alan Freeman of BBC-Radio-1. Note that this isnt. an "interactive. listening" episode, its different, this was Freeman reading out a. letter from one of my "real life" enemies. Id acrimoniously broken up. with some former friends in January of 1990, and I think they were still trying to cause me. trouble in June of that year.. Freeman on his rock show read out a letter from an "Andrew Turner"; one of my acquaintances. from January 1990 had been called Andy Turner, so I think its the same. guy. Freeman quoted Turner as saying various things about me, in particular Freeman said "thats a hell of. a letter. you wrote there Andy", "with a schizophrenic you're never alone", and something about the. "one who wore out his welcome with random precision" (from the words of the Pink. Floyd song). When I was looking for primary causes of. the MI5 persecution, this letter which Freeman had read out on his programme struck. me as being potentially one of the sources of the persecution. I know Turner and. various others in that group were very bitter at what they saw as their. failure and my undeserved success,. and they were quite determined to upset the applecart. Of course several other primary causes are possible; I. do not know why MI5 chose me as opposed to someone else, and. MI5 are hardly likely to. tell me. "Absolute Obscene" David Hepworth of. GLR This one Ive assigned a 100% rating on the website.. There are actually two separate incidents, which are linked through the D.J.s choice. of words. The first incident can be heard. in computer audio at web URL; On . 21/Feb/1997, I was listening to BBC GLR, by stealth. Back in 1990 I used to have. Capital blaring out of the speakers all over the garden ("if he listens to Capital then he can't be all bad", thanks ever so much).. But now I listen. on my walkman on headphones with the volume turned right down. It could not possibly be. overheard by any listening device, no matter how sensitive, because sound does not. carry from the phones. Yet somehow they are still able to tell which station. I am listening to on the walkman. And last night, I bravely tuned to GLR 94.9FM. at around 8.45pm. Everything went well for the first half hour or so. Around. 9.10pm, Hepworth said the. following after the song "Come Around" by the Muttonbirds. "coming up after this, we got the rock-and-roll A-level, we. have, I assume, Brian do we. have an embarrassment of prizes in there, we do, don't we, absolute. obscene amounts of prizes, there will no doubt be a riot at the back door, and that's, er, A-level. coming up after this" The key. phrases in what he said are, "EMBARRASSMENT of prizes", and what he himself emphasized verbally, "ABSOLUTE. OBSCENE amount of prizes". It is my belief (based on content and tone of voice). that when he spoke these phrases he knew I. was listening, and that the phrases refer directly to my situation. The "EMBARRASSMENT" is. the embarrassment he and other media people would feel at having. their wrongdoing exposed; the "ABSOLUTE OBSCENE" (which he verbally emphasized) described the disgusting. sexual abuse which the harassers have. been throwing at me. There. was a second incident, on 9/May/1997, which may be found on the web (with computer audio). at URL; This incident again contains the words. "absolute embarrassment of prizes", with the. same emphasis as the first instance, and laughter following the phrase. So. theyre aware of the complaint I made on Usenet after the first incident; and they are so arrogant that they. do exactly the same again. They are so arrogant, they know they. are being recorded and that what. they say will be published on the web, but they dont care. What corrupt media,. and what a corrupt country to have such corruption in its media. 7703 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDem

Thanks to all of you for sharing this information. Even though I am not there, we are in Maryland, and did caroling for people in Assisted Living and Nursing homes, your experience reminds me of caroling when we were children in California, and at the end there was hot cider, donuts, etc.etc. etc. piñata, for the carolers. It was a wonderful time. That was in the 1950s. I don’t remember how caroling was done in Trinidad. Anyone want to remind me? Nevilla -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of vettie finch Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Christmas in the BVI - more Thank you so much for this information. I had the pleasure of going to Tortola last Saturday to carol with the Voices of Love and my group, Party Hardies Carolers. For the Party Hardies, it was our first time venturing to Tortola, invited by the Voices of Love. We had a truly cultural and wonderful experience caroling to many homes, one of which was the O'Neal family. It was truly an experience for us and yes, a bit different than how we carol in St. Thomas. We went from house to house and each home we went to, even though they expected us, their lights were out until we sang out "arise-arise" song, then the lights came on and the entire family greeted us. Everyone was so appreciative, as we sang their favorite "sankies" and traditional Christmas hymns. We started at 7:00 p.m. caroling in front of Vanterpool's Pharmacy, then on to several homes such as the Wheatleys, Camerons, and O'Neal's. I can't remember the other family names but I do know we went to about 9 homes. The sweet bread, tarts, hams and local drinks were to die for... I know one thing, God permits, we will be back again next year. May God continue to bless you and the wonderful people of Tortola. Yvette Finch, member Party Hardies Carolers -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Spring Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:42 AM To: Rootsweb: Caribbean Subject: Christmas in the BVI - more (Road Town, Tortola) City Manager's Newsletter, 21st December, 2007 [Snip] Years ago, at this time of year several bands of carolers would go from house to house and village to village singing carols. One of those bands, the Great Britain Unity Band, is still going strong today. For many years, the Great Britain Band was led by Rosanna Helena Smith. Ms. Smith was born on 22nd November, 1890 and went on to raise 13 children with her husband, Henry Smith. She joined the band at an early age and took over its leadership from Camelita Greaves in 1924. For more than 60 years she led the band on its caroling rounds on Tortola. Every year people looked forward to seeing the Band with its colorful banner and flag and, on Christmas morning, when the bands tried to out-sing each other, many felt that the Great Britain Unity Band was the one which ruled the waves of carolers. Today the band is led by Ms. Iona Thomas, Ms. Smith's grand-daughter. [Snip] Eugenia O'Neal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> City Manager, Road Town "The Little City With the Big Heart!" Virgin Islands Quoted by :-) Peter Moll East End Tortola BVI ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for this information. I had the pleasure of going to Tortola last Saturday to carol with the Voices of Love and my group, Party Hardies Carolers. For the Party Hardies, it was our first time venturing to Tortola, invited by the Voices of Love. We had a truly cultural and wonderful experience caroling to many homes, one of which was the O'Neal family. It was truly an experience for us and yes, a bit different than how we carol in St. Thomas. We went from house to house and each home we went to, even though they expected us, their lights were out until we sang out "arise-arise" song, then the lights came on and the entire family greeted us. Everyone was so appreciative, as we sang their favorite "sankies" and traditional Christmas hymns. We started at 7:00 p.m. caroling in front of Vanterpool's Pharmacy, then on to several homes such as the Wheatleys, Camerons, and O'Neal's. I can't remember the other family names but I do know we went to about 9 homes. The sweet bread, tarts, hams and local drinks were to die for... I know one thing, God permits, we will be back again next year. May God continue to bless you and the wonderful people of Tortola. Yvette Finch, member Party Hardies Carolers -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Spring Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:42 AM To: Rootsweb: Caribbean Subject: Christmas in the BVI - more (Road Town, Tortola) City Manager's Newsletter, 21st December, 2007 [Snip] Years ago, at this time of year several bands of carolers would go from house to house and village to village singing carols. One of those bands, the Great Britain Unity Band, is still going strong today. For many years, the Great Britain Band was led by Rosanna Helena Smith. Ms. Smith was born on 22nd November, 1890 and went on to raise 13 children with her husband, Henry Smith. She joined the band at an early age and took over its leadership from Camelita Greaves in 1924. For more than 60 years she led the band on its caroling rounds on Tortola. Every year people looked forward to seeing the Band with its colorful banner and flag and, on Christmas morning, when the bands tried to out-sing each other, many felt that the Great Britain Unity Band was the one which ruled the waves of carolers. Today the band is led by Ms. Iona Thomas, Ms. Smith's grand-daughter. [Snip] Eugenia O'Neal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> City Manager, Road Town "The Little City With the Big Heart!" Virgin Islands Quoted by :-) Peter Moll East End Tortola BVI ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message